From the Field -- E-flite Habu STS 70mm EDF Jet RTF Smart Trainer Flight Review (The RC Geek)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2020
- We have a bonus flight review upload this week getting a sneak peak at the new E-flite Habu STS 70mm EDF from Horizon Hobby. This is the RTF which is being listed as a trainer system and includes with it everything you need to fly as well as a licenses to a special trainer edition of RealFlight which is a great value for learning. 3s and 4s capable (3s recommended for trainer ops), the airplane flies great and being extremely forgiving, having an extremely wide flight envelope and it lands like a dream. In the vid, I flew it on 4s and my son who is still new and learning flew it on 3s (he only has about 12 flights on an aeroscout thus far). It was a great day at the field and this is definitely and intriguing new trainer offering! #FlightTraining #ProductReview #TheRCGeek
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Love seeing your son enjoy it as well
Purchased the Habu 2 days ago. First chance to fly it and it was awesome. I am new to RC planes so I experienced it on Safe but was totally satisfied. Love the plane!
Awesome, I’m Glad to hear! 😊. It’s only gets better as you gain more experience. 😁
Amazing review, and great flying, keep up the good work
Thank you!
Most Excellent ... looks more like a second level airplane than a pure trainer. Your son did a great job and I think his assessment is right on spot - it could be used as a trainer. Thanks for sharing.
It’s a really good flyer and with some direct flight instruction I think could be used as a trainer. That was the reason I wanted my son to try it out. He was the perfect test case for it. It is a bit higher performance than most trainers, so that does require require a bit more attention.
@@Thercgeek What is the flight time on 3S? Some videos reviews say only a little over 5 minutes on 3S and 6 minutes on 4S??
We never ran a timer on it, but we were flying for quite a while on both 3s and 4s.
a winner sounds amazing and does a good knife edge
Nice job Chris and great to see your son getting into the hobby.
I’ve been slowly wearing him down, haha
Two thumbs 👍 👍 for your son showing the true Nature Of the training aspect of this jet
I figured he was the perfect test case for this one. 😊
Your Padawan learner is doing well, soon to be the master, killing you soon to take over everything!
He’s getting there. 😊
Nice job there "Little" Geek!
Where are you in relation to Coeshow 619?
Such an awesome plane and trainer!! We have three future pilots that will learn on this awesome plane!!!
awesome!
Great flying Geek Jr! The bird is great for beginners. To me, it looks like a Rebel V2. Thanks for sharing. AirHammer out!!
Which came first the Habu or the Rebel, I suspect it was the original Habu, I can see this as an edf trainer and probably even easier to fly than the Rebel ( I have a Rebel ) but a plug and play option would be better leaving the pilot the option of radio gear and gyro, or no gyro. The price point might then be more crash friendly !!!!
@@paulrkytek6587 the Habu has a PNP version. I would like a BNF.
@@airhammer6203 Yes, sorry I meant bind and fly
5:44 “Little Geek” Haha! Little Geek flew that Habu really well!
great demo Chris,so the kid can do more than dance and make fun of you! I know he has got to be a great son with a dad like you,what is his name,so I don't have to call him little geek,thanks guys!
nice one
John did his thing at the end 😂
Nice job getting the boy on the sticks I hope he sticks with it and becomes as good of a pilot as his dad. I've been trying to get. My boys out to fly with me but the dang Playstation and Xbox seem to rule their brains. Being that they are online schooling i think i will be adding a flying and building class to the cariculum. YEAHHH that's the plan
Thanks! It’s kind of hit and miss with him and flying. Mostly, he just hates getting up early, haha! I like the part of the curriculum idea. 😉
@RECKEM ROYS RC Don’t forget to add “Crashing and Repairing 101” to the curriculum! Lol
Nice review. Having Young Geek test fly this bird was a great idea. E-flite advertise this as a “Trainer”, but it’s not a good beginner plane as was demonstrated. No BNF is a mistake, I wouldn’t be surprised if a BNF is available soon & the RTF is dropped. As an intermediate pilot myself, I’m interested in getting one, without a Tx or charger.
If his landing had been with a more traditional prop-driven trainer he would have broken the prop, possibly bent the motor shaft, damaged the motor, mount, firewall, etc. A bent nose gear is much easier and less expensive to repair, and learning to not stall when landing is something nearly every new pilot finds out about the hard way...no matter what trainer model they're learning to fly with. This is where having an instructor really pays off, which is what we recommend for the Habu STS, Apprentice STS and all of our trainer models even if they are equipped with SAFE. For example, as we've posted a few other places now:
"Also, although it's equipped with SAFE and you have the RealFlight Trainer Edition simulator to help, there is no substitute for having the support and guidance of an instructor. Yes, you can potentially learn to fly the Habu STS on your own using SAFE, but you are more likely to succeed, to learn to fly faster, and to become a better pilot more quickly, if you have an instructor to help you! So please be sure to look for RC flying clubs and instructors in your area if you haven't already. You can also check out our Horizon Hobby Flight School program here: www.horizonhobby.com/flight-school.html#:~:text=Becoming%20a%20Horizon%20Hobby%20Flight,help%20and%20confidence%2Dbuilding%20support!"
And as noted in response to other comments/questions regarding a BNF Basic version:
No BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
That said, we do plan on providing an AR636 model file that includes AS3X and SAFE Select tuned for the Habu STS so anyone who has a spare 636 and would like to install it in the PNP version can. We may also offer a Habu STS setup for the AR637T, but the 636 is our priority for now since so many people already have those receivers on hand.
Yeah, it was not a good landing, haha! But, the airplane handled it like a champ which is what you want from a good trainer.
Very Cool Bro! I still have my Old HABU! Lol. I bought it at The AMA EXPO EAST Swap meet in NJ 2 years ago for $45! 🤣🤣🤣. I may need this one too. why not right? 🤣🤣🤣🤟🤟
Ha, nice!!
You almost pull off a carrier landing as good as mine!!
Hi,
Very grateful for you. Is this the easiest airplane for someone never flew before?
Thank you
Honestly, there are better options to start with than this one IMO. The aero scout is a great trainer to learn on. Also, I highly recommend getting connected with a club who can help provide some flight instruction for you. It will save you time and money while you’re learning.
Nice video you could have mentioned the optional sensor to assist in landing that would help with a beginner as a trainer. Also using the flight simulator capability. 👍
Indeed. Im not super familiar with the sts capabilities. I am planning to put together a preview of the training sim when I get a chance.
Excellent I enjoy your videos very much keep up the good work.
Thank you!
Question, do you have to fly these at special air fields? Or can i go down to the soccer field when know ones around and fly it?
Generally, you just need a nice wide open space. The slower aircraft can easily handle a soccer field, but with the larger and faster aircraft, it’s better to seek out a more dedicated flying field.
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Wish this came with retracts .would have been perfect
I hear you, that would’ve been pretty sweet
need your help, enjoyed your video, got one. with SATE and INTERMEDIATE the elevator does not deflect below the level of the horizontal stab. Full range with expect setting. Is that normal? With Hobby Horizon not replying to e-mails I need to ask you. Thanks!
Intermediate mode still angle limits the airplane, so that could be part of it. What happens when you set the rates to high?
Newbie question.. but would I need to put in some hours with a simulator before I even attempt a first flight ?
It would help greatly, yes. Also, getting some flight instruction for your local club is invaluable.
Hey did you prefer the T-28 trojan or the Habu? I am torn between the two.
You know, as a trainer I think the t28 is a better choice.
@@Thercgeek I appreciate you!
Will i be able to fly the 90mm Viper after training with the Habu?
Conceivably if you’re quite proficient with the habu, it wouldn’t be a huge stretch to jump to the viper. That said, there’s more complexity and cost to the viper with the flaps and retracts and it’s a much bigger and heavier model which does make it fly differently. I would say the 70mm viper would be a good intermediary step to the 90mm viper if that’s a possibility.
OOTINI!
where was the CG on the 4s 4000 battery ?
It was per the manual. I thought I included the dimension in the vid for the cg but apparently did not. So sorry about that!
Will the Habu fly using 4cell smart batteries?
Yup! That’s what we were flying in this.
What is the fly time of this rc jet?
It varies depending on how hard you fly the airplane, but we were getting around 4-5 minutes if I remember right.
Do you have afterburners for sale
I do, but I don’t have a design for the habu at the moment. It’s on the to do list though.
@@Thercgeek I have the F-16 from freewing 70 mm in running what would 1 cost for that
Ah, ok. Does that model have an outrunner or inrunner motor in the model? I don’t have a 70mm outrunner solution, but have multiple inrunner solutions. Theyre all at thercgeek.com/centerburner
@@Thercgeek it is an in runner
I have a Dynam Meteor II EDF jet. It looks a lot like this Habu. Does anyone know if the wing piece is easily interchangeable?
I’m not entirely clear on your question. Are you wanting to change the wing on the habu with the wing of the Dynam meteor?
@@Thercgeek I'm thinking the other way around. My Dynam flies fast and I figured putting a wing like the Habu on the Dynam fuselage might allow me to fly slower. Provided the fit is right
Ah, ok. It may be worth a try. They did lengthen the fuse on this one and I’m unsure if they increased the wing root chord, so unsure if it’ll fit. You can always add wing area using some foam, etc. with the current wing that’s on the meteor.
@@Thercgeek it's actually a great idea. It's also putting a lot of confidence from your part on my foam molding skills :)
HEY HH WHERE IS THE BNF ?????????
No Retracts
That is correct, it has fixed gear.
Anything’s better than starting of with a six cell f16
This is true!
Can I get it in BNF?
They have a pnp and an rtf on this one. No bnf option.
I know that HH wants to sell more products and that the beginner market is a good one to go after. Even after watching Padawan fly it (and he certainly did fine), it still strikes me as way too much airplane for a very first RC airplane. I think it's rather silly for HH to be marketing an EDF as a very first airplane. Maybe this would be a decent second, more intermediate, trainer..
I don’t disagree. It’s one of those that could be used as a trainer if one had to do so on a jet, but is best served with some one on one instruction. Given the performance though, yeah maybe a next step trainer or something like that may be better suited in the long run. All the more reason I wanted my boy to fly it and try it out. He was a perfect test case for it.
Right, and that made sense. Your son had, what, 12 or 15 flights on a beginner prop plane. For a step-up plane, it makes a lot more sense than a very first plane. I enjoyed the way that you did the video with it being flown by both skilled RC pilots and a beginner pilot. Good video, as are all of your videos.
As we've posted a few other places now:
"Also, although it's equipped with SAFE and you have the RealFlight Trainer Edition simulator to help, there is no substitute for having the support and guidance of an instructor. Yes, you can potentially learn to fly the Habu STS on your own using SAFE, but you are more likely to succeed, to learn to fly faster, and to become a better pilot more quickly, if you have an instructor to help you! So please be sure to look for RC flying clubs and instructors in your area if you haven't already. You can also check out our Horizon Hobby Flight School program here: www.horizonhobby.com/flight-school.html#:~:text=Becoming%20a%20Horizon%20Hobby%20Flight,help%20and%20confidence%2Dbuilding%20support!"
@@HorizonHobbyProducts Agreed!
That’s a good looking kid. Is he adopted?
Hahaha, he takes after his mother. 🤣
Chris, True Story. 2 weeks before my 14th birthday my dad asks me what I wanted for my birthday. “Without hesitation I said “A 90cc Yamaha dirt bike.” Dad doesn’t say anything, just walks over, puts his arm around me, starts walking me back to the house and says, “Your mom and I have been looking for the right time to tell you, and this seems to be the right time. There was a mixup at Labor & Deliver at Wright-Pat. You actually belong to a rich family. We’ve been trying for years to find them for you. We’ll keep trying I promise.”
Hahaha, that’s awesome
Tried to fly yesterday. My one month anniversary with Covid-19. Couldn’t expo out the shakes and loss of equilibrium. This virus sucks, and I had the mild, no fever, no cough version. I hope you and yours avoid this, it sucks.
Oh wow, I’m sorry to hear that man! I hope you get feeling better soon and it all comes back quickly and easily.
I can’t see recommending this to someone wanting to get into the hobby. It costs twice as much as the AeroScout and is at least twice as likely to get destroyed before they learn to fly. It would be a good first EDF for someone, but since they’ve probably already worn out an AeroScout, they already have a transmitter. So, I don’t see a market for it as an RTF. As a BNF, it won’t sell very well if it’s over $225. Look at all the 70mm EDF’s out there with flaps and retracts for $250. I think HH has missed the mark on this one. Nice video, Chris..
I hear you and don’t disagree. I do think though that with a flight instructor and some traditional flight instruction, it can be used in its intended purpose successfully. But as I mentioned it’s pretty high performance in comparison to others and as a trainer, that AeroScout is really hard to beat. This is for those who absolutely have to have a jet straight out of the gate, you know?
@@Thercgeek To me this hobby is a journey of discovery and part of the fun is going through the stages, enjoying the challenges and looking forward to the next step, For me this takes something away from all that but then perhaps I am just a dinosaur!!! No doubt there is a market for this but its not on my wish list.
Unfortunately in Australia this retails for over $700, very expensive trainer for us here.
I know the comment was years ago but gotta disagree. I flew Helis and EDFs 10 years ago but got away from the hobby. I want to get back into it and this EDF Seems fun enough without breaking the bank. I have a really old Hitec Aurora 9 that I should probably retire, so the RTF option may do just fine for me and can always upgrade it later
@@xJae14x The Habu shouldn’t be among anyone’s first 3 planes, perhaps their first 5. They might be ready for it in their 2nd year. Otherwise, it won’t last long..
Why didn't your son try in the "Safe" or "Intermediate" setting if he's a beginner? It wouldn't be sensitive if it wasn't in advanced mode. Don't get me wrong he did a great job!
But you saying it's a move advanced trainer, when you didn't use the beginner or intermediate setting.
Ultimately, he’s better off learning without it, especially with me standing there coaching him. Safe can train bad habits that have to be unlearned when transitioning away from it. He doesn’t fly super often and I did kind of throw him into the deep end on this one a bit which was a bit unfair to him, but I thought he did great with it.
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It seems a little too expensive rtf is 100$ more than the eflite f16 and that has retracts 6s compatible motor and stuff like that
That's definitely not an apples to apples comparison...especially because the F-16 is BNF Basic and the Habu STS is an RTF ;) The RTF version of the Habu STS includes a Spektrum DXS transmitter which is a $99.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/dxs-transmitter-only/SPMR1010.html ), a Spektrum Smart 3S 4000mAh 30C battery which is a $54.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/4000mah-3s-11.1v-smart-lipo-battery-30c-ic3/SPMX40003S30.html ), a Spektrum Smart 120 charger which is a $19.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/s120-usb-c-smart-charger-1x20w/SPMXC1020.html ), RealFlight Trainer Edition which is a $39.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/realflight-trainer-edition-for-steam-download-only/RFL1205D.html ) and a Spektrum WS2000 Wireless USB Simulator Dongle which is a $39.99 value ( www.horizonhobby.com/product/ws2000-wireless-simulator-usb-dongle/SPMWS2000.html ). Those components alone add up to $254.95, which means you're basically getting the Habu STS with a 70mm fan and motor, 70A telemetry-capable ESC, 5 servos, a flight controller and receiver for $145 at the RTF package price of $399.99. That's also only $50 more than the E-flite Apprentice STS RTF ($349.99), and $100 more than the HobbyZone Carbon Cub S 2 RTF ($299.99), which actually makes the Habu STS RTF a very good value overall when compared to other popular RTF trainers!
@@HorizonHobbyProducts Yeah, but a DX6e is $50 more, and up to this point many of us getting started with E-Flite planes (absolutely fantastic planes, BTW) already bit the bullet to get one of those or something similar. The battery sweetens the pot a great deal, but it seems to me that applying that value to a DX6e instead would make this more of a gateway plane that it does by the very limited DXS.
@@skeeterhoney Including the DX6e would have made the RTF cost even more (at least $70 more). And the DXS is not as limited as you may think...it's 7 channels and has telemetry capabilities, plus it can be programmed for use with other models. Sure, it's not as capable and flexible as a DX6e, but not everyone wants to spend more for that when they first get started.
I would have to agree. Strange “trainer package”. So many good options out there already. Market research would be interesting to see. I would think a better quality radio and a solid high wing trainer is a hard combination to beat. And when you want an EDF go with the Avanti. Feels like this doesn’t fill any real voids out there.
Michael Perry yeah if your ready to move into a jet you shouldn’t need it to be a trainer and it is only 50$ less the 80mm f18 hornet!!!!! And this jet isn’t even 6s compatible
a jawa would clobber an ewok. had to be said
Hahaha, I love it! 😁
Bad decision not to offer a BNF
As noted in response to other comments/questions regarding a BNF Basic version:
No BNF Basic option for this one due to the added cost associated with the flight controller (which includes a barometer that offers the "invisible floor" functionality, makes upgrading to the LAS and other functions possible) and serial receiver included in the RTF version. Those cost more than an AR636 or AR637T receiver, and would have made the price for a BNF Basic version about $60 more than the PNP version.
That said, we do plan on providing an AR636 model file that includes AS3X and SAFE Select tuned for the Habu STS so anyone who has a spare 636 and would like to install it in the PNP version can. We may also offer a Habu STS setup for the AR637T, but the 636 is our priority for now since so many people already have those receivers on hand.
landing gear is not retractable!!
Not on this one. That’s typical for a trainer type aircraft which is what this is marketed as.