Randy was perfect for Ozzy. He has been my favorite guitar player/ musician, since Blizzard came out. Blizzard and Diary introduced Randy to the world, and changed my world forever!!
Dude stop! It's easy to say that now. Moore was better player than Randy. I saw them both. Randy was a "Better fit" in terms of personality. Because he had patience to deal with a drunken lucky fool who married into the Arden empire. However, in terms of ability? Gary Moore all day every day (jaw dropping shit). Ask Dana Strum. Even when Ozzy took Randy to England, he was still trying to get Moore. Either way it all worked out.
There are a lot of errors with the stories because he believes stuff at face value when true research disputes it, if you're reading quotes from ozzy or Sharon great chance that's not what happened.
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle If there is so many errors in Kar’s uploads why are you here ? Why do you care ? You troll around like your the boss and I’m sure you’re opinions might be correct or not but maybe you should skip Kar’s future uploads .. Peace..
@scottwhite2757 to correct it...because I'm a Rhoads fan one if the reasons EvH apologist glossed me The Rhoads scholar on Van Halen News Desk as I educate them on reality and correct their mistakes as well. No one is trolling. You think I'm being insincere? No I'm correcting bad takes and lauding thise who grasp reality.
Got to see all 3 of these geniuses ( Moore once in 1987, Rhoads on first 2 Ozzy tours, & Eddie a half dozen times ) Loved the "Led Clones" collaboration between Moore & Osbourne.
and who did you enjoy the most, I mean after Randy who was the superior live player *the first two Blizzard of ozz tours......... Ozzy tours commenced after March 19, 1982
This was a fantastic video. By the end of the recording of Diary of a Madman Randy Rhoads had truly developed his own style and was definitely all his own. I go back and listen to both records with Randy and it almost gets better even after 4 decades. We were truly blessed to grow up in an era that gave us both Randy Rhoads and Edward Van Halen. I remember reading a brief interview or an article with Randy's mom's quotes in it. She said Randy was really really impressed by EVH. I don't compare the two. I'm smart enough and more importantly grateful enough to just appreciate the amazing music both gave to the world to enjoy. Long live rock and roll!!!
those first two Blizzard of ozz albums age like win , get better with age. Imagine writing that last album in just 4 weeks, and not havin the time to update some of the guide solos. Randy appreciated ed and the rest of their peers like George Lynch. I wish Ed had said something nicer about Randy after he died but Ed went pure hack
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Totally agree with you. Those records are incredible. We were so blessed to be around for it. I don't know why Ed had that attitude but I know Edward respected Randy's guitar playing a lot. Such a shame.
Legends 🙌 on guitar 🎸. The late Mick Ronson went to LA in 1982. He added handclaps to the song Jack and Diane by John Cougar. He was happy 😊 with that. Ronson went to Vancouver, Canada 🇨🇦. He played with The Payola$ and recorded with Lisa Dalbello. Ronson was an unsung all-star 🌟. At 1 of the England concerts, a young English man watched Van Halen closely. A few years later, that same guy, who happens to be Andy Taylor, joined Duran Duran.
Could you imagine Eddie playing for Ozzy? Sharon: "Okay Edward, Ozzy is the star so the spotlights will be on him. You just go over there and stand by your microphone and play guitar. No jumping or moving around because it will detract attention away from Ozzy."
I hear the talent, but Randy Rhoads just doesn’t move me. Gary Moore is phenomenal as well, but again I just hear it and it’s impressive, but emotionally it does nothing for me. EVH is different however. Especially those DLR records. That tone is second to none, and I love how when you hear Eddie, you never know where it’s going. I guess it’s his improvising that impresses me. That and the balls out attitude of his early playing that really made EVH special.
Eddie might have played faster and wowed everyone with his tapping technique that he ripped off from Frank Zappa but he couldn't play with any kind of emotion and feeling worth a damn .that is the main thing Rhoads and Moore had over Eddie .Randy had much much much better songwriting skills than both of them though .
At the start yes... Gary was spot on....I think he was right to go his own way..... he could have made millions with Whitesnake or other mega bands .... but went solo but sadly fell victim to his own success later and overconsumption of booze .... which can be a drug or addiction whatever way you look at it like Phil and Scott did with heroin....so ironic. Gary was never a fitness gym freak and it crept up on him in his final 1-2 years. All I can say as a 1980s Gary Moore fan is.... wtf. Success and fame can be lethal.
Bro, ozzy didnt wake up one day to see the writing on the wall for sabbaths career, he was fired. If not for Sharon, he'd be all done,noth8ng but a memory..he owes that 2nd career to sharon and randy
I agree incredible guitarist and sound.. i have many favorite guitarists and i try not to compare them for that reason, nice Ozzy landed Randy so we have those great solo's..
Its weird, i somehow see the other two as slightly better, while i prefer the way Gary played much more. I guess its because i feel how he played more than the other two. I like the blues more than that sweep picking sht. And God love em, neither of those guys could play the blues like Gary at all.
@@BubbaZen10. I could not say it better, Gary’s playing is one of a kind, hits me in a way that only Gary can play, like the blues good lord how he played the blues incredible.. just think about what Randy could of gave us. but sadly all 3 are gone and all 3 were incredible in their own way. have a great day BubbaZen10
@@scottwhite2757 you too man! I was blessed to see two. I saw Eddie 3 times back in the old days. Once right in front of him for Diver Down. And I'm pretty sure i saw Gary open for RUSH or someone like that. I never got to see Randy.
According to Ozzy, Eddie kept calling him by phone begging him to join VAN HALEN over the years and Ozzy kept replying to Eddie saying: STOP DRINKING EDDIE.😅😊😅😊
that is almost the stupidest thing that i have ever seen on the entire internet. EVH played music with freakin Michael Jackson and Brian May and Allan Holdsworth. at no time would he have ever given Ozzy the time of day.
@@BlueBarchetta67 Gary always wanted to work solo and do his own thing and of course drug use was a problem but not the main reason why he quit the band.
Yes officially Black Sabbath fired Ozzy Osbourne in 1979 but Osbourne had left the band in 1978 to start a solo project. So anyway looks like Ozzy didn't want to stay with Black Sabbath and wanted to start his own band. Especially when Black Sabbath failed touring with Van Halen.
That solo sounds like Randy had the Paganini thing down about the same time that Yngwie did. I always wondered what Randy would've thought about that first Yngwie album. I could see Randy doing an instrumental album like that
@@roscianyt no he wasn't ask Tommy Aldridge, you must have completely whiffed on what i was implying he couldn't write like Randy that would to the average reader would mean Randy was better.
I do love all three mentioned rip but Gary Moore was the best of them & wrote some epic material during the 1970's and 80's@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle
I saw an interview with Gary Moore from 2008, he said Ozzy was begging him to join his band. But Gary said to him “nah man I not long just left Thin Lizzy, there was too much drugs happening with the guys in that band and that’s why I left.. I can’t go through that again, I’d rather start my own band.” Probably a good thing he did start his own band, because Gary came out with some cool hard rock albums, like Corridors of Power, Run For Cover etc, it was good shit 👌🏽
I read that. Gary did not want to be involved with highly unstable people. He had been around. Randy was just getting started. I saw Randy in Birmingham two weeks before he died. I was about three back right in front of him. It still makes me angry and sick and sad and all kinds of pissed off about him not being here. Think of all the great music we would all have in our heads right now. We were all cheated. Big time.
Yes officially Black Sabbath fired Ozzy Osbourne in 1979 but Osbourne had left the band in 1978 to start a solo project. So anyway looks like Ozzy didn't want to stay with Black Sabbath and wanted to start his own band. Especially when Black Sabbath failed touring with Van Halen.
Parts of this just aren't actually correct .Sharon might have went to LA and got Ozzy sober and back from the dead but she was not in charge of ozzys everyday affairs of putting a band together at that time her brother was David and even he didn't have as much to say as his father.it was his father that once ozzy came back to England told ozzy he thought he should keep the band a all British band which they did try several out but it was ozzy that said Randy was the guy and Arden said well ill get him over here . But while in LA auditioning guitar players with Dana Strum in a studio and the rehearsal hall Garry Moore had rented out and was letting Ozzy try out musicians .Sharon wasn't on those tours with Van Halen and Black Sabbath period .and she also wasn't around when they wrote Blizzard of Ozz and not there for the first part of their uk tour .she has always taken credit for things she wasn't even there for .Randy lived with Ozzy and Thelma his first wife during the very beginning and didn't really take over Ozzys tours and affairs till quite awhile after they had tours the uk .she might have actually came in around the time they went back in Ridge Farm to record Diary or shortly after .she has told stories of how much of a magical time it was in the studio during the writing and recording of Blizzard and she wasn't there at all period. Bob and Lee and even Max Norman has said this publicly. Yes she eventually took over as a manager and was hooking up with Ozzy but not at first .
She also told her Father to drop the band from the label to save money...Sharon and Ozzy keeping the revisionist history channel alive. It was Bob Daisley who told ozzy he neeed to drop the two scrubs he was jamming with and to get a world class musician and that is when ozzy went back to Randy.
"and Ozzy realized that it was over for Black Sabbath and he left the band ...." really? because for all of these years (45 years?) later we have been led to believe that the Black Sabbath guys kicked him to the curb because he was a drunken sot who could barely even stand up any more.
some interesting stuff....some bollocks. Gary Moore did not leave Lizzy because of anything to do with EvH...it was he was sick of playing with (his words) coked out amateurs
Why does everyone always try to insist Randy was some Eddie Van Halen wannabe ? Randy liked Eddie as a player but not as a person .the day Eddie blew Randy off when Randy went back stage to show his respects to Ed and Eddie wouldn't even talk to Randy .Rhoads lost all respect for Van Halen that very moment and used a Van Halen or Eddie flyer for a dart board lol
I usually try to avoid these kind of debates but it's like comparing a Lamborghini to a Ferrari. All three had tremendous talent and I don't believe Gary went to the blues because he couldn't keep up in the shredding. It was his preference and he returned to his roots. If you listen to Gary's hard rock in songs such as Murder In The Skies with the long shred intro and The End Of The World, he can shred with the best of them. Michael Schenker said that Gary Moore was one of the best. You can't deny guys such as Gary, Stevie Ray Vaughan or Rory Gallagher who are blues based, aren't very talented and I'm not saying you are. I just don't think the more faster you play, the better you are. Let's just say all three are extremely talented and the guitar world lost three legendary guitarists. Btw, EVH is my all time favorite guitarist.
Most of the fastest shredders can’t write a song to save their life. Look at the endless BADASS riffs created by Iommi and Page. Iron Man and Heartbreaker alone are 2 of the most badass riffs of all time. Iommi is THE ultimate riff master above all. Even Page.
Ozzy never deserved Randy Rhoades, now Ozzy wants all this sympathy, what ? Money can't buy you health, so no sympathy from me, eat your money it may save you
exactly, for been a over weight putz..ozzy also lied to Randy, told him he was in the band and went to the UK and told Bob Daisly he rather works with Brits and had this other guitar player who Bob found waiting in a room with cocaine lines...
@@mikehunt576 he did not really lie to him as much as he probably did not remember all of the details at the time. Bob is the one who told Ozzy he best find world class musicians after that fateful encounter and jam with Ozzy. The label more told Ozzy they wanted a U.K . only band
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle he lied 100 percent, the whole Ozzy is dysfunctional and on another plane thing is his trick of pretending he has no clue, Ozzy used this tactic to save his skin many times with black sabbath when mafia would come and talk gibberish about why he should donate money incase someone breaks his legs., or if he wanted a gram of coke and not pay Randy Rhoads or the lies he told Randy's mom to keep using his gear with a back up guitarists until one of the thousands of new lawsuits started, Ive been close to Ozzy, he is literally old school, while Randy gave a huge impression dont forget Ozzy was black sabbaths iconic singer for decades, generations of music, etc, wives, etc, very charismatic but....its a ruthless business, brutal..around Ozzy I saw a singer who was surrounded by professionals trying to decide the next move all the time, you have a singer, the number of musicians who are willing to pay with their own gear for free is beyond reality, you play as a guitarists as soon as you tour of take photos you have the major music gear companies and etc etc offering you money, free stuff and more., knowing you could care less lol Some see Ozzy as someone who can sing here right now on the sofa type, meaning he can do 2-3 shows a day, assuming he is naive or able to see out arenas..while others see him as someone more less as a public figure with value so not just music companies float over to him, he had tv shows etc. Randys mom was very offended for years though, the family wanted everything to be good but the Ardens (Sharon Arden later Osbourne, Don Arden all where in on screwing the band from the second Ozzy view I mentioned, they fired the original line up, never credited anyone, randys family never saw money, lawsuits one after the other, the only people around Ozzy that get paid are the road crew, drug dealer and Sharon
@@mikehunt576 What we know is the lawyer who was tasked with getting them a U.S. distribution deal screwed them over when he only signed Ozzy to CBS, this led to the end of the band name and empowered Darth Hideous to fire Lee and then Bob. THere are only rumors of lawsuits, but the Rhoads family does publicly have a good relationship with the Osbournes, but it has been suggested that Sharon tried to forge a contract after Randy died, and that Delores had the original contract and had a big shot lawyer muscle up on the Osbournes and she also fought and won to control of her son;s likeness which leads many to believe this is why the Osbournes refuse to release or allow video footage of Randy, and they allegedly did sell videos to help Don arden out of bankruptcy.
@@mikehunt576 People should see Ozzy for who he is, an lucky guy who won the music lottery with an iconic voice, and who can align himself with talented musicians who can write great songs. However as a live musician he could never match what he did in the studio
Ozzy realized it was over for sabbath so he decided to leave 😂😂😂😂😂 he was kicked out, his best friend had to fire him. Ozzy then holed up in a hotel room and pretty much gave up on music. He was devastated.
Ozzy had left Black Sabbath in 1978 to start a solo project. So obviously Ozzy didn't want to stay with Black Sabbath, so they had to fire him. Max Norman said that the Ozzy he knew was a smart guy who knew exactly what he wanted. He was not the way he is often portrayed in the media.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 I had heard the 3 month break in 1978 was because his father passed and had suggested he start blizzard of ozz before passing. Sabbath members were all over indulging in drugs and alcohol and were at each other’s throats so Ozzy left. He said it was like a bad marriage, you just want to hurt each other. They begged him to come back after 3 months then rewrote a lot of the songs for never say die since he refused to sing songs written by the guy from fleetwood mac. One of those songs became an instrumental because of it, the song was breakout. Ozzy even said they should change the name to jazz sabbath. After they finished the never say die tour the rest of the band was tired of Ozzy’s behavior and the fired him and made Bill Ward do the dirty work.
That guitar solo Randy played was influenced by Van Halen's Eruption. In 1982, Randy admitted that he played things similar to Van Halen's to impress the crowd and he also admitted that Van Halen was an influence. Randy's friend Rudy Sarzo said that Eddie Van Halen and Gary Moore were Randy's top favorite players. When Randy played his solo spot, he didn't copy Eddie's 'Eruption' note for note but he used some ideas from 'Eruption'. And of course what Randy recorded with Ozzy were his own stuff. The point is that when Eddie came out with Eruption in 1978, he set everyone on fire like Hendrix!
@@karsguitarchannel6088 no, what he said is the kids want flash and he hates using licks people associate with Ed, but other people came up with before Ed. Ed made stuff more popular. How was the spotlight solo influenced by Eruption when Randy was doing that solo in the clubs long before Eruption was released? If you listen to the actual spotlight solo, not the edited version on Tribute, but the Cleveland show, it sounds nothing like anything Ed ever did with Eruption. It maps more to his solo in the clubs with Quiet Riot. He didn't copy Ed on anything, he used licks associated with Ed that Ed had made popular.
Gary Moore was not as nimble as EVH and or RR.... being completely NIMBLE makes the decision in all life aspects. Bree lee PROVED the more NIMBLE the more DANGEROUS!
a lot of people thought van Halen was making a dysfunctional Sabbath look bad. Actually the guy who rppped off Sabbath was not Arden it was a guy he used to work with Patrick Meehan grant, Meehan worked with Arden and then went their own way
I saw that episode and I would also think that anyone that bought tickets for those Black Sabbath concerts would have thought they got their money’s worth.
He said that much later but in 1979 he was matey with Eddie Van Halen. But looks like years later Gary got very competitive with Eddie Van Halen and that's why he made that statement.
it doesn't matter what Gary said about Ed - obviously Ed did not peak after one album - in fact Ed was at the top of his game every time that he was captured on a recording. every freakin time.
@@jamesha175 Peak or no peak that first album was his best .second was his second best .and come to think about it Woman And Children First was his 3rd best .hey you kno wat ? I think that's why he said that cause all his best work started at the beginning and went down hill (well not like shitty bad) but not as good as the one before .it was forsure that way all through the Roth era .best to least is First to last .lol
@@jamesha175 I guess if you look at it like that he did peak with his first record but I lot of guys do even though a player should get better as time goes on kinda like Randy Rhoads. That first record was amazing but his second record he got way better .I mean seriously he did .imagine had he not got killed he would have been well the best .think Eddie put more time into getting his tone better and amps better . guitars better instead of putting all that time into his music .again just Imagine had he done that it's hard to tell just how much better he might have gotten
Randy's style was nothing like Eddie's. Alot of tapping Randy played with one hand. His playing and more important song writing was more mature, melodic
That solo sucked ass ha ha ha I played better than that when I was 16 in 1987 I was influenced by EVH as well, but some how my leads and solos wrent sloppy like RR live. It sounded so amatuer. LOL people have messiah complex way too much. RR was not that GREAT. just really good he looked cooler than he sounded.
It's amusing to people when someone comes onto a comments section to talk about how someone isn't that great, which is a sign to educated and logical people he was great enough for you to come and try and be dismissive. Randy being sloppy is still more precise than Ed live. So you are saying you upgraded the precision. Ed was a sloppy player live at times.....and he did not really know how to get from A to B because he did not have the level of knowledge Randy did. He wrote two great albums and one of them is the top selling metal debut of all-time, he founded a legendary band with Bob and Ozzy
@@feelingsogood6073 thos nobody does not understand, Randy's greatness goes up when someone decides they need to be dismissive do people waste time talking about how Kirk hammett isn't that great...no because no one thinks he is
Ive never understood how Randy Rhodes got such a great reputation he sounds unpolished raw and amateurish compared to Ed and those people who think Randy Rhoads is better than SRV or Gary Moore are just voicing their opinions like i am. When they mention Randys background as a teacher and schooled musician no nothing about what makes a guitarist riffs and songs popular. A great example of lousy barely any talent musicians i think of KISS one of the worst rock bands musically of all time. But ! KISS sold a ton of records and sells out large venues because “there is no accounting for taste or the lack of”
He wanted Gary Moore before he ever heard Randy Rhoads. But wanting Gary Moore and ending up with Randy Rhoads is like wanting Mila Kunis and ending up in bed with Blake Lively ,,an upgrade
Randy was perfect for Ozzy. He has been my favorite guitar player/ musician, since Blizzard came out. Blizzard and Diary introduced Randy to the world, and changed my world forever!!
Yes Randy was fantastic with Ozzy
Eddie, Gary and Randy are Iconic.. Great Work On This Rock History and photo's !! Have a Rocking Great Day Kar !!!
Many thanks Scott, great pleasure !!! Have an awesome rocking day !
Randy was a way better fit for Ozzy than Gary Moore ever would've been...Moore was phenomenal in his own different way
right not sure Moore would have adapted to writing songs that fit Ozzy
Yeah, Moore was too smart to work with Ozzy, he'd do all the writing and wouldn't have got any credit.@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle
Dude stop! It's easy to say that now. Moore was better player than Randy. I saw them both. Randy was a "Better fit" in terms of personality. Because he had patience to deal with a drunken lucky fool who married into the Arden empire. However, in terms of ability? Gary Moore all day every day (jaw dropping shit). Ask Dana Strum. Even when Ozzy took Randy to England, he was still trying to get Moore. Either way it all worked out.
If someone asks who’s my top 5 guitarist… those 3 are in there.
Ozzy did not "leave" Black Sabbath, Ozzy was fired from Black Sabbath.
Best guitar stories channel hands down....👍
There are a lot of errors with the stories because he believes stuff at face value when true research disputes it, if you're reading quotes from ozzy or Sharon great chance that's not what happened.
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle If there is so many errors in Kar’s uploads why are you here ? Why do you care ? You troll around like your the boss and I’m sure you’re opinions might be correct or not but maybe you should skip Kar’s future uploads .. Peace..
@scottwhite2757 to correct it...because I'm a Rhoads fan one if the reasons EvH apologist glossed me The Rhoads scholar on Van Halen News Desk as I educate them on reality and correct their mistakes as well. No one is trolling. You think I'm being insincere? No I'm correcting bad takes and lauding thise who grasp reality.
Got to see all 3 of these geniuses ( Moore once in 1987, Rhoads on first 2 Ozzy tours, & Eddie a half dozen times )
Loved the "Led Clones" collaboration between Moore & Osbourne.
and who did you enjoy the most, I mean after Randy who was the superior live player
*the first two Blizzard of ozz tours......... Ozzy tours commenced after March 19, 1982
You can hear the Michael Schenker influence in Randy's playing
This was a fantastic video. By the end of the recording of Diary of a Madman Randy Rhoads had truly developed his own style and was definitely all his own. I go back and listen to both records with Randy and it almost gets better even after 4 decades. We were truly blessed to grow up in an era that gave us both Randy Rhoads and Edward Van Halen. I remember reading a brief interview or an article with Randy's mom's quotes in it. She said Randy was really really impressed by EVH. I don't compare the two. I'm smart enough and more importantly grateful enough to just appreciate the amazing music both gave to the world to enjoy. Long live rock and roll!!!
those first two Blizzard of ozz albums age like win , get better with age. Imagine writing that last album in just 4 weeks, and not havin the time to update some of the guide solos. Randy appreciated ed and the rest of their peers like George Lynch.
I wish Ed had said something nicer about Randy after he died but Ed went pure hack
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Totally agree with you. Those records are incredible. We were so blessed to be around for it. I don't know why Ed had that attitude but I know Edward respected Randy's guitar playing a lot. Such a shame.
@@michaeldineenSG2018 Ed was a dick. his brothers are also dicks. i never encountered his son so who knows ....
WONDERFUL stories!!!
Many thanks, great pleasure!
Wish Randy was still alive but I’m glad he is still with us
Fantastic Video! Thank You!
Big thanks!
Randy, you did enough. Miss you every time i think about you
You're the best Kar. Your stories are incredible! Thank you man.
Many thanks Steven, great pleasure !!! Have an awesome day !
Legends 🙌 on guitar 🎸.
The late Mick Ronson went to LA in 1982. He added handclaps to the song Jack and Diane by John Cougar. He was happy 😊 with that. Ronson went to Vancouver, Canada 🇨🇦. He played with The Payola$ and recorded with Lisa Dalbello. Ronson was an unsung all-star 🌟.
At 1 of the England concerts, a young English man watched Van Halen closely. A few years later, that same guy, who happens to be Andy Taylor, joined Duran Duran.
These 3 are my top 3 favourite guitarists
Gary Moore start me playing the guitar
Same here.
Could you imagine Eddie playing for Ozzy?
Sharon: "Okay Edward, Ozzy is the star so the spotlights will be on him. You just go over there and stand by your microphone and play guitar. No jumping or moving around because it will detract attention away from Ozzy."
SHARON ! where my Percocet ? has Eddie been on my bus again ?
Not really, he would not write Ozzy like songs, he would write van Halen songs and with Ozzy probably not as good.
Eddie would never have associated with Ozzy. i mean really, can you imagine the very first 10 minutes Eddie would have been like, "where's the door?"
@@jamesha175Randy was a better songwriter than Ed ever dreamed of being
@@johnhagan582no way
I hear the talent, but Randy Rhoads just doesn’t move me. Gary Moore is phenomenal as well, but again I just hear it and it’s impressive, but emotionally it does nothing for me. EVH is different however. Especially those DLR records. That tone is second to none, and I love how when you hear Eddie, you never know where it’s going. I guess it’s his improvising that impresses me. That and the balls out attitude of his early playing that really made EVH special.
Eddie might have played faster and wowed everyone with his tapping technique that he ripped off from Frank Zappa but he couldn't play with any kind of emotion and feeling worth a damn .that is the main thing Rhoads and Moore had over Eddie .Randy had much much much better songwriting skills than both of them though .
"Cool!"
Gary knew better, and he lived.
Gary did die early.....he was not that old when he passed but we get your point, And if Gary joins all of history changes.
At the start yes... Gary was spot on....I think he was right to go his own way..... he could have made millions with Whitesnake or other mega bands .... but went solo but sadly fell victim to his own success later and overconsumption of booze .... which can be a drug or addiction whatever way you look at it like Phil and Scott did with heroin....so ironic. Gary was never a fitness gym freak and it crept up on him in his final 1-2 years. All I can say as a 1980s Gary Moore fan is.... wtf. Success and fame can be lethal.
Everybody has an opinion. I'll take Steve Vai's over all the trolls. "There's 2. Jimi and Eddie, then there's everybody else".
Bro, ozzy didnt wake up one day to see the writing on the wall for sabbaths career, he was fired. If not for Sharon, he'd be all done,noth8ng but a memory..he owes that 2nd career to sharon and randy
Gary was dumbfounded by Ed,i just read an article about it , on an excerpt from gohram from thin Lizzy 🤟🤟🤟so was Beck ,read it on another article ,
Gary was the best of the 3 guitarists...my opinion
I agree incredible guitarist and sound.. i have many favorite guitarists and i try not to compare them for that reason, nice Ozzy landed Randy so we have those great solo's..
Its weird, i somehow see the other two as slightly better, while i prefer the way Gary played much more. I guess its because i feel how he played more than the other two. I like the blues more than that sweep picking sht. And God love em, neither of those guys could play the blues like Gary at all.
@@BubbaZen10. I could not say it better, Gary’s playing is one of a kind, hits me in a way that only Gary can play, like the blues good lord how he played the blues incredible.. just think about what Randy could of gave us. but sadly all 3 are gone and all 3 were incredible in their own way. have a great day BubbaZen10
@@scottwhite2757 you too man! I was blessed to see two. I saw Eddie 3 times back in the old days. Once right in front of him for Diver Down. And I'm pretty sure i saw Gary open for RUSH or someone like that. I never got to see Randy.
I agree and I am one of the biggest Van Halen fans out there. I love Randy Rhoads too.
Gary would not stand for Ozzys crap and would easily have kicked Ozzys ass the first month.
And Gary always wanted to work solo
He wanted to be his own boss
According to Ozzy, Eddie kept calling him by phone begging him to join VAN HALEN over the years and Ozzy kept replying to Eddie saying: STOP DRINKING EDDIE.😅😊😅😊
that is almost the stupidest thing that i have ever seen on the entire internet.
EVH played music with freakin Michael Jackson and Brian May and Allan Holdsworth.
at no time would he have ever given Ozzy the time of day.
@@jamesha175 he was buddies with Ozzy and Ed did and said a lot of stupid things when he was drinking....it is possible but not serious
Ozzy didn't leave Black Sabbath, he was fired.
Technically true. But let's face it, Oz was kinda checking himself out of the band at that point as well.
And Gary left Lizzy because of drug usage, not for a solo career.
Still the greatest day in metal history, we got Sabbath with Dio and the band Blizzard of ozz who wrote two masterpieces
@@BlueBarchetta67 Gary always wanted to work solo and do his own thing and of course drug use was a problem but not the main reason why he quit the band.
Yes officially Black Sabbath fired Ozzy Osbourne in 1979 but Osbourne had left the band in 1978 to start a solo project. So anyway looks like Ozzy didn't want to stay with Black Sabbath and wanted to start his own band. Especially when Black Sabbath failed touring with Van Halen.
I remember hearing that Randy had died. I barely knew who he was. Gone too soon
That solo sounds like Randy had the Paganini thing down about the same time that Yngwie did. I always wondered what Randy would've thought about that first Yngwie album. I could see Randy doing an instrumental album like that
I'm so happy Ozzy got Randy Rhodes. Gary as great as he was would not fit.
Correct he couldn't write like Randy
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Correct, Gary was much better.
@@roscianyt no he wasn't ask Tommy Aldridge, you must have completely whiffed on what i was implying he couldn't write like Randy that would to the average reader would mean Randy was better.
I do love all three mentioned rip but Gary Moore was the best of them & wrote some epic material during the 1970's and
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I saw an interview with Gary Moore from 2008, he said Ozzy was begging him to join his band. But Gary said to him “nah man I not long just left Thin Lizzy, there was too much drugs happening with the guys in that band and that’s why I left.. I can’t go through that again, I’d rather start my own band.” Probably a good thing he did start his own band, because Gary came out with some cool hard rock albums, like Corridors of Power, Run For Cover etc, it was good shit 👌🏽
I liked Gary better doing rock
The thing is Gary always wanted to do his own thing. He didn't want to be in anyone's band. He wanted to be his own boss. And he made it.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Especially when G-Force didn’t work out as planned in 1980.
I read that. Gary did not want to be involved with highly unstable people. He had been around. Randy was just getting started. I saw Randy in Birmingham two weeks before he died. I was about three back right in front of him. It still makes me angry and sick and sad and all kinds of pissed off about him not being here. Think of all the great music we would all have in our heads right now. We were all cheated. Big time.
Nobody could tuch garys sound and feeling.He was very fast player too if he wanted in the same level with other two maybe better
Yes many could and did, Gary was good but he's not at the level of Ed or Randy
Well said.🎸🗿✨
Influential Artists will always be i wonder if there is a guitarist that was born with new riffs be like
Wasn't Michael Schenker also approached by Ozzy to Join?
yes... a lot of people were by Drunken Ozzy....
Meniketti, Vandenberg...
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_OracleDave meniketti😂❤
Ozzy didn’t leave he was fired Gary Moore was amazing but he wouldn’t fit with Ozzy
Right he wasn't Randy
Yes officially Black Sabbath fired Ozzy Osbourne in 1979 but Osbourne had left the band in 1978 to start a solo project. So anyway looks like Ozzy didn't want to stay with Black Sabbath and wanted to start his own band. Especially when Black Sabbath failed touring with Van Halen.
Parts of this just aren't actually correct .Sharon might have went to LA and got Ozzy sober and back from the dead but she was not in charge of ozzys everyday affairs of putting a band together at that time her brother was David and even he didn't have as much to say as his father.it was his father that once ozzy came back to England told ozzy he thought he should keep the band a all British band which they did try several out but it was ozzy that said Randy was the guy and Arden said well ill get him over here . But while in LA auditioning guitar players with Dana Strum in a studio and the rehearsal hall Garry Moore had rented out and was letting Ozzy try out musicians .Sharon wasn't on those tours with Van Halen and Black Sabbath period .and she also wasn't around when they wrote Blizzard of Ozz and not there for the first part of their uk tour .she has always taken credit for things she wasn't even there for .Randy lived with Ozzy and Thelma his first wife during the very beginning and didn't really take over Ozzys tours and affairs till quite awhile after they had tours the uk .she might have actually came in around the time they went back in Ridge Farm to record Diary or shortly after .she has told stories of how much of a magical time it was in the studio during the writing and recording of Blizzard and she wasn't there at all period. Bob and Lee and even Max Norman has said this publicly. Yes she eventually took over as a manager and was hooking up with Ozzy but not at first .
She also told her Father to drop the band from the label to save money...Sharon and Ozzy keeping the revisionist history channel alive.
It was Bob Daisley who told ozzy he neeed to drop the two scrubs he was jamming with and to get a world class musician and that is when ozzy went back to Randy.
Well he wasn’t gonna get gary moore lol. Like that would have ever been a thing.
OP's are not fact. It's just your opinion.
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"and Ozzy realized that it was over for Black Sabbath and he left the band ...."
really? because for all of these years (45 years?) later we have been led to believe that the Black Sabbath guys kicked him to the curb because he was a drunken sot who could barely even stand up any more.
He wanted to leave the band and start a solo project before that
some interesting stuff....some bollocks. Gary Moore did not leave Lizzy because of anything to do with EvH...it was he was sick of playing with (his words) coked out amateurs
Why does everyone always try to insist Randy was some Eddie Van Halen wannabe ? Randy liked Eddie as a player but not as a person .the day Eddie blew Randy off when Randy went back stage to show his respects to Ed and Eddie wouldn't even talk to Randy .Rhoads lost all respect for Van Halen that very moment and used a Van Halen or Eddie flyer for a dart board lol
He can play fast but I can't understand
I usually try to avoid these kind of debates but it's like comparing a Lamborghini to a Ferrari. All three had tremendous talent and I don't believe Gary went to the blues because he couldn't keep up in the shredding. It was his preference and he returned to his roots. If you listen to Gary's hard rock in songs such as Murder In The Skies with the long shred intro and The End Of The World, he can shred with the best of them. Michael Schenker said that Gary Moore was one of the best. You can't deny guys such as Gary, Stevie Ray Vaughan or Rory Gallagher who are blues based, aren't very talented and I'm not saying you are. I just don't think the more faster you play, the better you are. Let's just say all three are extremely talented and the guitar world lost three legendary guitarists. Btw, EVH is my all time favorite guitarist.
moore wasnt at the level of Rhoads and van Halen.....he was very good
Most of the fastest shredders can’t write a song to save their life.
Look at the endless BADASS riffs created by Iommi and Page.
Iron Man and Heartbreaker alone are 2 of the most badass riffs of all time.
Iommi is THE ultimate riff master above all. Even Page.
@ezsmith3765 well Rhoads could do it all and he owned thise 3 Sabbath songs
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oraclehe was better
Blackmore Micheal schenker Gary moore rik emmit ronnie montrose evh Jimi Hendrix tony iommi srv
Ozzy never deserved Randy Rhoades, now Ozzy wants all this sympathy, what ? Money can't buy you health, so no sympathy from me, eat your money it may save you
Ouch!!!!
Ozzy won the lottery
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NO Ozzy got FIRED from Sabbath.
exactly, for been a over weight putz..ozzy also lied to Randy, told him he was in the band and went to the UK and told Bob Daisly he rather works with Brits and had this other guitar player who Bob found waiting in a room with cocaine lines...
@@mikehunt576 he did not really lie to him as much as he probably did not remember all of the details at the time. Bob is the one who told Ozzy he best find world class musicians after that fateful encounter and jam with Ozzy. The label more told Ozzy they wanted a U.K . only band
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle he lied 100 percent, the whole Ozzy is dysfunctional and on another plane thing is his trick of pretending he has no clue, Ozzy used this tactic to save his skin many times with black sabbath when mafia would come and talk gibberish about why he should donate money incase someone breaks his legs., or if he wanted a gram of coke and not pay Randy Rhoads or the lies he told Randy's mom to keep using his gear with a back up guitarists until one of the thousands of new lawsuits started,
Ive been close to Ozzy, he is literally old school, while Randy gave a huge impression dont forget Ozzy was black sabbaths iconic singer for decades, generations of music, etc, wives, etc, very charismatic but....its a ruthless business, brutal..around Ozzy I saw a singer who was surrounded by professionals trying to decide the next move all the time, you have a singer, the number of musicians who are willing to pay with their own gear for free is beyond reality, you play as a guitarists as soon as you tour of take photos you have the major music gear companies and etc etc offering you money, free stuff and more., knowing you could care less lol
Some see Ozzy as someone who can sing here right now on the sofa type, meaning he can do 2-3 shows a day, assuming he is naive or able to see out arenas..while others see him as someone more less as a public figure with value so not just music companies float over to him, he had tv shows etc.
Randys mom was very offended for years though, the family wanted everything to be good but the Ardens (Sharon Arden later Osbourne, Don Arden all where in on screwing the band from the second Ozzy view I mentioned, they fired the original line up, never credited anyone, randys family never saw money, lawsuits one after the other, the only people around Ozzy that get paid are the road crew, drug dealer and Sharon
@@mikehunt576 What we know is the lawyer who was tasked with getting them a U.S. distribution deal screwed them over when he only signed Ozzy to CBS, this led to the end of the band name and empowered Darth Hideous to fire Lee and then Bob.
THere are only rumors of lawsuits, but the Rhoads family does publicly have a good relationship with the Osbournes, but it has been suggested that Sharon tried to forge a contract after Randy died, and that Delores had the original contract and had a big shot lawyer muscle up on the Osbournes and she also fought and won to control of her son;s likeness which leads many to believe this is why the Osbournes refuse to release or allow video footage of Randy, and they allegedly did sell videos to help Don arden out of bankruptcy.
@@mikehunt576 People should see Ozzy for who he is, an lucky guy who won the music lottery with an iconic voice, and who can align himself with talented musicians who can write great songs. However as a live musician he could never match what he did in the studio
Ozzy realized it was over for sabbath so he decided to leave 😂😂😂😂😂 he was kicked out, his best friend had to fire him. Ozzy then holed up in a hotel room and pretty much gave up on music. He was devastated.
Ozzy had left Black Sabbath in 1978 to start a solo project. So obviously Ozzy didn't want to stay with Black Sabbath, so they had to fire him. Max Norman said that the Ozzy he knew was a smart guy who knew exactly what he wanted. He was not the way he is often portrayed in the media.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 I had heard the 3 month break in 1978 was because his father passed and had suggested he start blizzard of ozz before passing. Sabbath members were all over indulging in drugs and alcohol and were at each other’s throats so Ozzy left. He said it was like a bad marriage, you just want to hurt each other. They begged him to come back after 3 months then rewrote a lot of the songs for never say die since he refused to sing songs written by the guy from fleetwood mac. One of those songs became an instrumental because of it, the song was breakout. Ozzy even said they should change the name to jazz sabbath. After they finished the never say die tour the rest of the band was tired of Ozzy’s behavior and the fired him and made Bill Ward do the dirty work.
Ozzy....Gary Moore had a face like a welders bench,Schenker wanted too much money,classy
Dana thought Randy was the best player in LA and didn't get why he wasnt getting traction
To be honest I don't see any similitude to Eddie Van Halen on his playing, just listen to Blizzard of Oz has nothing to do with Van Halen
That guitar solo Randy played was influenced by Van Halen's Eruption. In 1982, Randy admitted that he played things similar to Van Halen's to impress the crowd and he also admitted that Van Halen was an influence. Randy's friend Rudy Sarzo said that Eddie Van Halen and Gary Moore were Randy's top favorite players. When Randy played his solo spot, he didn't copy Eddie's 'Eruption' note for note but he used some ideas from 'Eruption'. And of course what Randy recorded with Ozzy were his own stuff. The point is that when Eddie came out with Eruption in 1978, he set everyone on fire like Hendrix!
@@karsguitarchannel6088 no, what he said is the kids want flash and he hates using licks people associate with Ed, but other people came up with before Ed. Ed made stuff more popular.
How was the spotlight solo influenced by Eruption when Randy was doing that solo in the clubs long before Eruption was released? If you listen to the actual spotlight solo, not the edited version on Tribute, but the Cleveland show, it sounds nothing like anything Ed ever did with Eruption. It maps more to his solo in the clubs with Quiet Riot.
He didn't copy Ed on anything, he used licks associated with Ed that Ed had made popular.
Compared to Ed he sucks and i say that as a 50 plus year guitarist who also sucks .
Gary Moore was not as nimble as EVH and or RR.... being completely NIMBLE makes the decision in all life aspects. Bree lee PROVED the more NIMBLE the more DANGEROUS!
Honestly Gary and Phil Lynott were the perfect pairing. Thin Lizzy " Black Rose" should have been a huge album in the States.
But Van Halen did not blow Sabbath off the stage Tony Iommi confirmed that on That Metal Show, and Yes don Arden did rip off Sabbath+ Ozzy
a lot of people thought van Halen was making a dysfunctional Sabbath look bad. Actually the guy who rppped off Sabbath was not Arden it was a guy he used to work with Patrick Meehan
grant, Meehan worked with Arden and then went their own way
I saw that episode and I would also think that anyone that bought tickets for those Black Sabbath concerts would have thought they got their money’s worth.
Tony Iommi had a better sound then Eddie for sure.It sounded huge!
Gary said Ed peaked after one album ...but you dont mention that
He said that much later but in 1979 he was matey with Eddie Van Halen. But looks like years later Gary got very competitive with Eddie Van Halen and that's why he made that statement.
it doesn't matter what Gary said about Ed - obviously Ed did not peak after one album - in fact Ed was at the top of his game every time that he was captured on a recording. every freakin time.
@@jamesha175 Peak or no peak that first album was his best .second was his second best .and come to think about it Woman And Children First was his 3rd best .hey you kno wat ? I think that's why he said that cause all his best work started at the beginning and went down hill (well not like shitty bad) but not as good as the one before .it was forsure that way all through the Roth era .best to least is First to last .lol
@@jamesha175 I guess if you look at it like that he did peak with his first record but I lot of guys do even though a player should get better as time goes on kinda like Randy Rhoads. That first record was amazing but his second record he got way better .I mean seriously he did .imagine had he not got killed he would have been well the best .think Eddie put more time into getting his tone better and amps better . guitars better instead of putting all that time into his music .again just Imagine had he done that it's hard to tell just how much better he might have gotten
Honestly that's the truth ! Maybe after the second record but after that nothing Eddie ever recorded was as good .
Randy's style was nothing like Eddie's. Alot of tapping Randy played with one hand. His playing and more important song writing was more mature, melodic
Nope Gary dropped Lizzy cos their drug use was getting in the way of the music,he was all about the music not partying
Randy didnt have Dirty Fingers !
Eddie Van Halen Coudn't Carry Gary Moores Jock Strap... Gary And Leslie West are the only two who play with feeling
That solo sucked ass ha ha ha I played better than that when I was 16 in 1987 I was influenced by EVH as well, but some how my leads and solos wrent sloppy like RR live. It sounded so amatuer. LOL people have messiah complex way too much. RR was not that GREAT. just really good he looked cooler than he sounded.
Lets hear your Blizzard and Diary quality compositions or even one riff worth a darn?
It's amusing to people when someone comes onto a comments section to talk about how someone isn't that great, which is a sign to educated and logical people he was great enough for you to come and try and be dismissive.
Randy being sloppy is still more precise than Ed live. So you are saying you upgraded the precision. Ed was a sloppy player live at times.....and he did not really know how to get from A to B because he did not have the level of knowledge Randy did.
He wrote two great albums and one of them is the top selling metal debut of all-time, he founded a legendary band with Bob and Ozzy
@@feelingsogood6073 thos nobody does not understand, Randy's greatness goes up when someone decides they need to be dismissive do people waste time talking about how Kirk hammett isn't that great...no because no one thinks he is
Right on the money.He sounds like a beginner.Terrible vibrato and dreadful technique.But he did write some good riffs for Ozzy.
Ive never understood how Randy Rhodes got such a great reputation he sounds unpolished raw and amateurish compared to Ed and those people who think Randy Rhoads is better than SRV or Gary Moore are just voicing their opinions like i am. When they mention Randys background as a teacher and schooled musician no nothing about what makes a guitarist riffs and songs popular. A great example of lousy barely any talent musicians i think of KISS one of the worst rock bands musically of all time. But ! KISS sold a ton of records and sells out large venues because “there is no accounting for taste or the lack of”
He wanted Gary Moore before he ever heard Randy Rhoads.
But wanting Gary Moore and ending up with Randy Rhoads is like wanting Mila Kunis and ending up in bed with Blake Lively ,,an upgrade