*Noble Quran makes clear in **39:43**-44, 6:94, 2:254, **7:53**, **10:18**, **30:13**, 60:3 that the Authority of Intercession is only with God Who will decide according to the deeds of person. But Hadiths books which are in fact books of gossip and hocus pocus, are full of mutually contradictory tales. Some stories given in those books of folkloric hearsay fairytales tell that on the Day of Judgment, Prophet will be intercessor for sinners, but at the same time, it is mentioned in their own book labeled as Sahih-Muslim that Prophet warned his daughter Fatimah and his aunt Safiyya that do good deeds to save yourselves from fire because on that Day, I will not be in position to help you. Now point is: if he will not be able to help his own daughter; then how will he help these hadiths-followers!*
Actually, we still believe in some of "shahih" ( صحيح ) hadist ( حديث ), but of course not 100 % . Hadist consist of "gossip" used to "not shahih" , not "rowahu" ( روه ) by bukhari or muslim.
@@papicubbies1377 Hadiths are mere fabricated tales. Not a single Hadith is Sahih because Rassool and 4 Caliphs *IN PERSON* did not certify even one extra-Quranic hadiths as Sahih
Insha’allah You should consider engage in discussions with hadthists. As a new revert it would be most beneficial . Your are really good at articulating yourself.
another one is the nabi interceeding for muslims in hell. basically Allah decides to let people out of hell because the prophet asks him to. it's as if Allah made some kind of mistake in putting them in there. or as if Allah takes joy in burning people. there are different version of this in the ahadith. in some versions the nabi asks Allah several times untill all muslims are saved. and it takes Allah several attempts until all muslims are saved. why? irregardless how absurd these things sound the quran doesn't teach any of these types of intercessions anywhere. can you make a video about how the "temporary burning" for sins or whatever is unquranic? there isn't a single verse teaching this concept. the verses that allegedly prove it like 19:72 don't mention anything about "temporary burning". it only says people with takva will leave hell (nothing more). the quran only teaches one type of burning and that's the burning for eternity (halidine fiha ebeda). it even refutes these (sadly still popular) ideas of "temporary burning" in verses like 2:81; 3:24; etc.
below are some verses showing why "temporary burning" isn't a thing: [2:80-81] Some have said, *"Hell will not touch us, except for a limited number of days."* Say, "Have you taken such a pledge from GOD-GOD never breaks His pledge-or, are you saying about GOD what you do not know?" Indeed, those who earn sins and become surrounded by their evil work will be the dwellers of Hell; *they abide in it forever.* [3:24] This is because they said, *"The hellfire will not touch us, except for a few days."* They were thus deceived in their religion by their own fabrications. -> there is no such thing as "temporary burning" in the quran. only burning for eternity. it doesn't exclude muslims anywhere either. [40:7] Those who serve the throne and all those around it glorify and praise their Lord, and believe in Him. And they ask forgiveness for those who believe: "Our Lord, Your mercy and Your knowledge encompass all things. Forgive those who repent and follow Your path, and *spare them the retribution of Hell.* [52:18] They enjoy what their Lord has reserved for them; their Lord has *spared them the retribution of Hell.* [52:27] "GOD has blessed us, and has *spared us the agony of ill winds.* [44:56] They do not taste death therein- beyond the first death-and He has *spared them the retribution of Hell.* -> you don't "spare them the retribution of Hell" if you let them burn for all their sins first. these verses show there is no "burning temporarily".
hell is definitely forever. i habe seen that some people make the linguistic argument that the punishment of oil and fire is not forever. i dont know tho. but hell itself is definitely forever
🙏mashAllah 🙏❤️Brother ❤Appendix 8 - The Myth of Intercession - (from: Quran The Final Testament (Authorized English Version) Translated From the Original by Rashad Khalifa,Ph.D) -- The Myth of Intercession - To believe that anyone, other than God, can intercede on our behalf to have our sins forgiven or our wishes fulfilled, is to set up partners with God. This is idolatry. The Quran proclaims that “All intercession belongs to God” (39:44), and that there will be “no intercession on the Day of Judgment” (2:254). - The myth of intercession is one of Satan’s most effective tricks to dupe millions of people into idol worship. Millions of Christians believe that Jesus will intercede for them at God, and millions of Muslims believe that Muhammad will intercede on their behalf. Consequently, these people idolize Jesus and Muhammad. The concept of intercession is utterly illogical. Those who believe in Muhammad’s intercession, for example, claim that he will ask God to forgive them and admit them into Paradise. They imagine Muhammad on the Day of Judgment choosing the candidates for his intercession. If you ask those who believe in intercession: “How will Muhammad recognize those who deserve his intercession?” they tell you, “God will tell him!” According to this concept, a person will go to Muhammad and request his intercession. Muhammad will then ask God whether this person deserves his intercession or not. God will inform Muhammad that the person deserves to go to Paradise. Muhammad will then turn around and tell God that the person deserves to go to Paradise! The blasphemy is obvious; those who believe in intercession make God a secretary of their idol Muhammad. God be glorified. - Since the Quran is the most accurate book, it acknowledges that everyone in Paradise will intercede on behalf of his or her loved ones: “Please God, admit my mother into Paradise.” This intercession will work if the person’s mother deserves to go to Paradise (2:255, 20:109, 21:28). Thus, intercession, though it will take place in this manner, is utterly useless. - We learn from the Quran that Abraham, God’s beloved servant, could not intercede on behalf of his father (9:114). Noah could not intercede on behalf of his son (11:46). Muhammad could not intercede on behalf of his uncle (111:1-3) or relatives (9:80). What makes anyone think that a prophet or a saint will intercede on behalf of a perfect stranger?! See 2:48, 123; 6:51, 70, 94; 7:53; 10:3; 19:87; 26:100; 30:13; 32:4; 36:23; 39:44; 40:18; 43:86; 53:26 & 74:48. Muhammad’s intercession is in 25:30.
intercession as in People would be on the verge of being thrown into hell always struck me as kinda unfair like what if someone doesn't know someone. and most importantly it seems that that person knows better than the Most High who is most knowing who deserves Heaven or Hell. intercession maybe as in people praying for you, angels praying for you. might be okay cuz God decides. but the other type that people promote as intercession on judgement day seems like a discussion and mediation?
Not one single verse did Allah SWT specify that all of this is for non believers or people of the book, you literally just made up your own assumptions or are following somebody else assumptions with zero support from.a single verse he just mentioned, and he mentioned a lot.
A prophet or Imam advocating on our behalf is not us giving him more authority than God. That is like saying I'm giving more authority to my lawyer than the judge for advocating on my behalf
Thank you for sharing. I have always questioned the differences between Quran and Hadith. Some differences are so clear.
In most cases, fabricated hadiths run counter to Quranic laws. This indicates; that tons of hadiths are indeed product of hypocrites
*Noble Quran makes clear in **39:43**-44, 6:94, 2:254, **7:53**, **10:18**, **30:13**, 60:3 that the Authority of Intercession is only with God Who will decide according to the deeds of person. But Hadiths books which are in fact books of gossip and hocus pocus, are full of mutually contradictory tales. Some stories given in those books of folkloric hearsay fairytales tell that on the Day of Judgment, Prophet will be intercessor for sinners, but at the same time, it is mentioned in their own book labeled as Sahih-Muslim that Prophet warned his daughter Fatimah and his aunt Safiyya that do good deeds to save yourselves from fire because on that Day, I will not be in position to help you. Now point is: if he will not be able to help his own daughter; then how will he help these hadiths-followers!*
Actually, we still believe in some of "shahih" ( صحيح ) hadist ( حديث ), but of course not 100 % .
Hadist consist of "gossip" used to "not shahih" , not "rowahu" ( روه ) by bukhari or muslim.
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Hadiths are mere fabricated tales. Not a single Hadith is Sahih because Rassool and 4 Caliphs *IN PERSON* did not certify even one extra-Quranic hadiths as Sahih
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Insha’allah You should consider engage in discussions with hadthists. As a new revert it would be most beneficial . Your are really good at articulating yourself.
another one is the nabi interceeding for muslims in hell. basically Allah decides to let people out of hell because the prophet asks him to. it's as if Allah made some kind of mistake in putting them in there. or as if Allah takes joy in burning people. there are different version of this in the ahadith. in some versions the nabi asks Allah several times untill all muslims are saved. and it takes Allah several attempts until all muslims are saved. why? irregardless how absurd these things sound the quran doesn't teach any of these types of intercessions anywhere.
can you make a video about how the "temporary burning" for sins or whatever is unquranic? there isn't a single verse teaching this concept. the verses that allegedly prove it like 19:72 don't mention anything about "temporary burning". it only says people with takva will leave hell (nothing more). the quran only teaches one type of burning and that's the burning for eternity (halidine fiha ebeda). it even refutes these (sadly still popular) ideas of "temporary burning" in verses like 2:81; 3:24; etc.
below are some verses showing why "temporary burning" isn't a thing:
[2:80-81] Some have said, *"Hell will not touch us, except for a limited number of days."* Say, "Have you taken such a pledge from GOD-GOD never breaks His pledge-or, are you saying about GOD what you do not know?" Indeed, those who earn sins and become surrounded by their evil work will be the dwellers of Hell; *they abide in it forever.*
[3:24] This is because they said, *"The hellfire will not touch us, except for a few days."* They were thus deceived in their religion by their own fabrications.
-> there is no such thing as "temporary burning" in the quran. only burning for eternity. it doesn't exclude muslims anywhere either.
[40:7] Those who serve the throne and all those around it glorify and praise their Lord, and believe in Him. And they ask forgiveness for those who believe: "Our Lord, Your mercy and Your knowledge encompass all things. Forgive those who repent and follow Your path, and *spare them the retribution of Hell.*
[52:18] They enjoy what their Lord has reserved for them; their Lord has *spared them the retribution of Hell.*
[52:27] "GOD has blessed us, and has *spared us the agony of ill winds.*
[44:56] They do not taste death therein- beyond the first death-and He has *spared them the retribution of Hell.*
-> you don't "spare them the retribution of Hell" if you let them burn for all their sins first. these verses show there is no "burning temporarily".
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hell is definitely forever. i habe seen that some people make the linguistic argument that the punishment of oil and fire is not forever. i dont know tho. but hell itself is definitely forever
🙏mashAllah 🙏❤️Brother ❤Appendix 8 - The Myth of Intercession
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(from: Quran The Final Testament (Authorized English Version) Translated From the Original by Rashad Khalifa,Ph.D)
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The Myth of Intercession
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To believe that anyone, other than God, can intercede on our behalf to have our sins forgiven or our wishes fulfilled, is to set up partners with God. This is idolatry. The Quran proclaims that “All intercession belongs to God” (39:44), and that there will be “no intercession on the Day of Judgment” (2:254).
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The myth of intercession is one of Satan’s most effective tricks to dupe millions of people into idol worship. Millions of Christians believe that Jesus will intercede for them at God, and millions of Muslims believe that Muhammad will intercede on their behalf. Consequently, these people idolize Jesus and Muhammad.
The concept of intercession is utterly illogical. Those who believe in Muhammad’s intercession, for example, claim that he will ask God to forgive them and admit them into Paradise. They imagine Muhammad on the Day of Judgment choosing the candidates for his intercession. If you ask those who believe in intercession: “How will Muhammad recognize those who deserve his intercession?” they tell you, “God will tell him!” According to this concept, a person will go to Muhammad and request his intercession. Muhammad will then ask God whether this person deserves his intercession or not. God will inform Muhammad that the person deserves to go to Paradise. Muhammad will then turn around and tell God that the person deserves to go to Paradise! The blasphemy is obvious; those who believe in intercession make God a secretary of their idol Muhammad. God be glorified.
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Since the Quran is the most accurate book, it acknowledges that everyone in Paradise will intercede on behalf of his or her loved ones: “Please God, admit my mother into Paradise.” This intercession will work if the person’s mother deserves to go to Paradise (2:255, 20:109, 21:28). Thus, intercession, though it will take place in this manner, is utterly useless.
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We learn from the Quran that Abraham, God’s beloved servant, could not intercede on behalf of his father (9:114). Noah could not intercede on behalf of his son (11:46). Muhammad could not intercede on behalf of his uncle (111:1-3) or relatives (9:80). What makes anyone think that a prophet or a saint will intercede on behalf of a perfect stranger?! See 2:48, 123; 6:51, 70, 94; 7:53; 10:3; 19:87; 26:100; 30:13; 32:4; 36:23; 39:44; 40:18; 43:86; 53:26 & 74:48. Muhammad’s intercession is in 25:30.
intercession as in People would be on the verge of being thrown into hell always struck me as kinda unfair like what if someone doesn't know someone. and most importantly it seems that that person knows better than the Most High who is most knowing who deserves Heaven or Hell.
intercession maybe as in people praying for you, angels praying for you. might be okay cuz God decides. but the other type that people promote as intercession on judgement day seems like a discussion and mediation?
Salaam!! Do u hv any podcast bout Second coming of Prophet Isa (PBUH)
Jazakallah!!
These verses are concerning the people of the book and non believers. Not Muslims
Not one single verse did Allah SWT specify that all of this is for non believers or people of the book, you literally just made up your own assumptions or are following somebody else assumptions with zero support from.a single verse he just mentioned, and he mentioned a lot.
2:254 O YOU WHO BELIEVE
A prophet or Imam advocating on our behalf is not us giving him more authority than God. That is like saying I'm giving more authority to my lawyer than the judge for advocating on my behalf
the jidge is not allknowing. God is. that analogy makes no sense
Not arguing with god but plead with got