2013-06-20 Zeer Grote Uitslaande Brand FIRE UP Oisterwijk
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Zeer grote brand in aanmaakblokjesfabriek Fire-Up aan de Laarakkerweg te Oisterwijk.
De film bevat beelden nog voordat de brand uitslaand werd.
Op een gegeven moment was de hitte zo groot dat een brandweerwagen nat gehouden moest worden en moest worden verplaatst.
Er was sprake van een enorme rookontwikkeling.
Brandweereenheden uit de gehele regio werden opgeroepen.
Super Equipment, great fire gear, astonishing tactic control, all ingredients for a successfull disaster. I particularly appreciate the careful track retreat once all what could be done was done. Letting the fire consume its own perimeter was the logic step to take as it was a dangerous chemical fire, very dark clouds showing the composite nature of it. My hat to the great team work! Banzai!
Zoals je in de eerste minuut kunt zien staat de rook tot halverwege de hoogte van het pand (het drukt zich al door de roldeuren heen) dan iets openen en naar binnen gaan is zelfmoord, de rookgassen daar binnen zijn zo enorm heet en explosief dat je niet naar binnen wilt en koelen heeft in zo'n hal geen zin, je hebt gewoon tekort water op je straal. dus loop niet te zeuren allemaal, het lijkt of er niets gebeurd maar dit is een weloverwogen beslissing.
Ik denk dat het in een associatie als deze een hoop minder schadelijk is voor het milieu en de omgeving als je meer volledige verbranding helpt plaatsvinden in plaats van halfslachtig er water op te gieten terwijl het toch niet te blussen is
Nou...die Aanmaakblokjes werken dus duidelijk erg goed! Ik denk, dat ze toen liever Uitmaakblokjes hadden gehad...
Ik wil er wel een paar van overkopen, het is een bewezen goed product. Maar wel tegen een gereduceerde prijs want ze zijn al een keer gebruikt.
OK, so it's a simple and relatively cheap construction; steel risers with insulation and aluminum siding. That will protect the building from an external heatsource. The insulation will also keep the heat inside (after all, it works both ways). In short; inside it's like an oven. The company produces and stores firewood and firestarters for BBQ's. So, it's wood and chemicals inside. More or less what Americans use to build residential complexes like Avalon (look it up) and such.
No sane firechief would send his people into that building. It's basically a fuel fire; best to let it burn, and protect any exposure. The firefighters did that; the fire did not spread. Some guys here complain, that the building could have been saved. They are like drivers, who totaled an expensive car, but survived) and cry about the loss of their car. The car is totaled, but it did its main job, ie: it kept you safe. Just buy a new car.
American firefighters would have shown up here with more than 20 trucks and engines; all flashy lights and 1000's of gallons per minute (gpm). They would be cutting the roof, and smashing windows. (and some 100 guys would be standing by, waiting for orders). Like at the Avalon complexes, the endresult would be just the same - only with a higher fatality rate. They would be using deckguns and powerliners, which are commonly set to a thin laserbeam, act like Darth Vader, and miss the burning stuff by a mile. Most FD's outside the US dress and gear up, while en route to the fire. NOT so in the US; they take their time to put their gear on, and go search for a hydrant first, losing precious minutes. The taxpayers enjoy the parade of BIG (and EXPENSIVE) laddertrucks, and treat the firefighters like heroes. In the end, a building will still be destroyed... by fire or by firefighters. Forget the idea, that, in general, US firefighters are the best; if ever there would be a fire in my home, I'd rather wait for European or Russian firefighters. They are better educated and trained, and do not think in dumb protocols; they make their own assessment of a situation, and ACT, FAST.
33lex55 So true!
Well said 👍 annoying how many experts there are on here with no clue
Amen!! I think this comment is spot on.
Clearly you have no idea what firefighters in the US do. You're basing your facts on a major fire in new jersey which clearly wasn't able to be saved and needed a large amount of water to extinguish. "Firefighters in the US take there time to put their gear on" we dawn our pants and jackets in the station prior to leaving that takes all of 1 minute we have standards to ensure it doesn't take longer than that. then we pack up in the trucks on our way to the scene. we take our time searching for a hydrant, that's absolutely false depending on the stage of fire or where the hydrant is in relation to our approach to the fire. If the fire is still in its growth stage and a hydrant isn't on the way of our approach we use the on average 750 gallons of tank water on our trucks to make a knock on the fire. If there is a hydrant then we do a forward lay which mean we drop a firefighter off at the hydrant he grabs the ldh off the back of the truck with hydrant tools then the truck drives to the fire laying the hose out as it goes. and the "thin laserbeams" you are talking about are called straight streams or smoothbore we us them because they penetrate deep in the fire and don't disturb the thermal balance of the fire when we are making interior attacks. Your ignorance is baffling, and if this video is what you think of of "acting fast" than you clearly have no clue what you are talking about.
@@pilot4life15 Great comment, and you describe what should happen. Unfortunately, in a lot of cases, that does not happen. I commend you for doing a decent job, but I am afraid you and your FD are the exception. But it is not only the FD's who are to blame: I mentioned the Avalon Complex for a reason: that particular complex got destroyed by fire TWICE; once when it was being built, AND once when it was already in use. You should watch a video about that fire on Vimeo, by American Architects. It's downright scary.
Safety standards and building practices are a joke, really. Buildings must go up fast and cheap, and when there is a fire, it's thoughts and prayers (and insurance, if you are lucky). Do a search on 'apartment complex fire' on TH-cam, and get yourself some popcorn, cause you will find a LOT.
Ein tolles Video. Machen Sie weiter so. Gott segne Sie und Ihre Familie.
Jammergenoeg hadden ze geen uitmaakblokjes.
Mijn vader zit bij de brandweer en ze hebben bijna nooit zo'n grote brand gehad. Ze zitten met 16 man bij de brandweer en ik weet sommige dingen wel en sommige dingen weer niet over de brandweer van Achterveld in Gelderland. Ze doen hun uiterste best met branden blussen.
Fire Up, indeed.
That place looks as though it was doomed even before the water started flowing.
A very good documetation
En gister was het weer raak. Wat ik me hardop afvraag: hoe krijg je een vergunning als er (feitelijk) eens in de 5 jaar brand uitbreekt? Nu zat er tussen deze gigantische brand en die van 2019 wel 5 jaar, maar in 2019 was er bijvoorbeeld 4 keer brand in dat pand. Gister weer een hal (precies de hal die in 2019 ook in vlammen op ging), verloren gegaan. De verzekeraar zal wel 2 keer nadenken voordat ze (weer) wat uitkeren aan de eigenaar. Bovendien zou ik toch niet echt gelukkig zijn als ik daar in de buurt zou wonen...
Bei solch einer Brandlast in dem Gebäude hast du gar keine Chance, die Angriffstrupps die dort in den Innenangriff geschickt worden wären, die wären gegrillt worden. Das ist eine unheimliche Wärmeentwicklung, da kann man nur Riegelstellungen aufbauen und Ausbreitung verhindern.
Oké dankjewel voor deze video!!!
Groetjes: *Krystian.*
It was not safe to go inside.
Wel jammer dat al die gasten uit het buitenland zoveel commentaar hebben,
Die snappen blijkbaar niet dat het om een aanmaakblokjes fabriek gaat.
En dat naar binnengaan niet echt heel slim is.
Mensenlevens zijn daar blijkbaar minder waard dan gebouwen?
in dat gebouw zat er nog geen mensen het was nog ochtend zoals je de lucht ziet
Best bijzonder om te horen hoe het geluid van de brand op 8:07 van een rustige ruis naar een luid knetterend geluid veranderd.
Too many armchair critics who know nothing of what preceded this video or what was going on on the other three sides of the building. It's so easy to say 'go in and put the fire out' when it's not you doing it.
the fire may appear small but you have no look inside, could be raging inferno inside.
superbe vidéo merci
Hoe ironisch...
Goede views trouwens, kassa @Fotograaf MWB
The comments of armchair firemen who don't have clue about fire fighting.
You understand it?
It s a factory of firelighters.
The building can t be saved, first priority is to project the surrounding.
Please, can anyone tell me what this building was used for, what was inside it?
Thanks and regards from Texas. 28 Year paid firefighter.
PoppaBlue59 Fire-Up International is manufacturing fire-related products. In the building was a storage of firestarters. No way they could prevent it from burning down once the fire was in the storage.
Fotograaf MWB Thank you!
production and storage of firelighters
Fotograaf MWB Be nice!
gezien achter grond cometaar staan de beste zee lui aan de kant
Once the fire dept knew there where no people inside and what was burning they decided to let it burn itself out protecting the environment …smart decision…
Wat wil je ook met zo'n bedrijfsnaam?
lol the irony
Is it normal in the Netherlands, that they fight against such a big fire with just 2-3 engines, 1 ladder und 30 firefighters?
freeroom88 yes. How many people you throw at such a fire, it doesn’t help.
@@hansvanwouwe1958 There were actually a lot more people, but theyre not on one side of the building. Camera View isnt really giving a good perspective. GRIP2 usually involves 2 platoons (12 Engines, 3 Ladders, excluding Commando Units and Watertransportation teams). I recon theres much to show for thats not on the video.
wat was de oorzaak van deze enorme brand super helden die weer aan de slag zijn gegaan om de boel te blussen
Vuur is in de keuken begonnen.
@@FotograafMWB ai das wel pech dat dan alles in de vlammen is opgegaan
They sprayed the water on the sliding metal, to give it a push... What they did was control the downfall of the sliding metal, thus making it a little bit safer to work. I think you just need to shut your mouth, because you are commenting on something you didn't knew.
I think he's right OldLordSpeedy.You see the smoke,coming out of the factory?
And have you learned something about a "backdraft"??
So,it was to dangerous to go inside.
You don't know what backdraft is.
And it burned down in 2022 at other location , brand new building , they thought they had al there gear right , but nonethelless it burned down, they had a foam installation to put fire out automatically which did in the first place but the next morning , fire department went for inspection and opening things up and then in went burning again.
zo dat zijn goede aanmaakblokjes
laat maar lekker koken hoor. ziet er best leuk uit zo.. ze heten niet voor niks fire up. hahaha
Ok so I have been watching many of these videos and it seems easier for these countries and firefighters to just let it burn then trying to put it out, Why is that?
Probably beacuse its extremely dangerous to go inside.. its a hotbox filled with fuel, ignitable smoke, and extremely high temperatures. Theres nothing to save, no ammount of water will put this fire out unless its out of fuel.
Het bedrijf heet fire up en er is fire up
zeg dat wil je niet mee maken zoiets
wie bouwt er dan ook geen sprinkler installatie in een aanmaak blokjes fabriek?
ICANanimations Waarom zou je dat doen, de schade is dan even groot (immers de gehele voorraad gaat dan ook verloren), behalve misschien het gebouw zelf, wat alleen uit wandplaten is opgetrokken. De kosten van zo'n installatie wegen dan niet op tegen de baten. Gevaar voor de omgeving was goed te handelen.
Een sprinkler gaat alleen af waar er brand is, dus de voorraad zou niet helemaal verloren gaan. In een sprinkler zit een glazen buisje dat springt wanneer er een bepaalde temperatuur bereikt wordt.
Misschien een goed idee om de comments uit te zetten, zoveel mensen hier hebben geen idee waar ze het over hebben.
KyrumX Dat er veel mensen reageren die er geen verstand van hebben, klopt. Dat is overal zo. Maar misschien leren ze iets van de andere reacties.
Begint pas "uit te slaan" als de brandweer er is😯
Fire up... what is in the name🙄
Lol en nu staan ze weer in brand
А гуляющие вокруг горящего здания пингвины в касках и ждущие пока всё окончательно сгорит на самом деле пожарные?
Wooow this must be hot as hell😟😟🙈 I hope the company is full recovered now and I still hope this unbelievable fire took no human life😧😧✊✊
this is just a commercial ad to show how good their firestarters work. the company is now doing better than ever.
fikt goed
En, wat heb jij gedaan?:)
grappig om tehoren kikkers op de achtergrond , was klote voor het bedrijf
Bis die endlich anfangen zum löschen, sieht bald aus als soll gar nicht gelöscht werden...unglaublich....
Lha kesuwen to lek...ndang keburu entek..ngopi sikek kono..
kijken en kijken ..brandweer kom op
Одним словом, это полные тормоза
A pleurer, si mauvais!
Meschien wat schuimkannonen doen ze ook altijd bij brandstof branden
Very nice trucks. Too small for industrial fire, poorly equipped. No fire emergency system apparently inside the building with sprinklers. Looks like lots more equipment shows up after the building burns down, wow.
You dont know anything about the dutch fire department. Poor equipped, duh. I know a lot of american firefighters who dream of our equipment and training.
con o sin bomberos el resultado hubiera sido el mismo
Inderdaad, schuim was hier een goede optie geweest.
ich höre frösche quaken 🐸
haha wat wil je ook met zo"n naam😄
dion
Ik hoor kikkers op de achtergrond :-)
Dat zijn de scheten van de juut. hahaha
in germany there would be much more von 40 vehicles on site... :D
In Texas..we would have put a small fire like this one out with a wet mop.
(Kidding, of course).
Best wishes from Texas.
PoppaBlue59 Your comments under this Video prove you are an American Hero. But to become a hero, you have to die! We europeans like to live long, then we can also extinguish more fire.
Power washing the side of the building is NOT going to put the fire inside out...
Its a company making fire starters for bbq and camp fires so a lot of dangerous chemicals when the first truck arrived there was to much smoke to safely bring a crew in so by cool down the walls they tried to prevent the fire to damage other buildings except the one that was already a totall loss
U just hope 🙏and pray that these bunch of cowboys dont ever turn up at your place to put out a fire 🔥.otherwise 🔥no hope 🙏for u fire at the front which was small at first deberie was falling that was were the heart of the fire was hosepipes should have been on it not standing watching it then spread got totally out of control otherwise they could have saved most of that building. They were powerless to do anything. Hosepipes were on to Late fighting a Looseing Battle. They caused more problems than solving them.
It was a lost battle the moment that fire started..... In that building firestarters where made and stored.
If it were in my hands, I would have punished all those involved in putting out this great fire, because of their inaction and their indifference to extinguishing the fire and their neglect in carrying out their great duty.
Dude its a company in fire starters so chemical fire and when the first truck arrived the smoke was coming out of the building here in the netherlands no fire chief would have allowed his crew inside to much risk so just let the building go and protect the surrounding buildings and by chance civillians
It would probably have taken every engine in the country and the countries total water supply to try and put out a fire like. Where is your common sense?
Looks like a bunch of Firefighters just standing around doing nothing for the most part. I guess they thought the building was a total loss so why bother.
They knew the building was a total loss.
The fire is inside the building. The walls do not need to be washed down ( or cooled) they should have try to go inside and fight the fire, not let it grow and continue on the outside, and watch it burn everything to the ground. I believe they have wasted a lot of time looking at it.
Go inside a building with dangerous goods and a lot of heat? Why risk human lives when the building is damaged completely anyway? They did not waste a lot of time, they decided to let it burn down in a controlled way.
Roaring On the beginning the fire is not so bad and there is not a lot of heat because the structure is big so the heat is not intense. There is more heat in a room of a house than in this big structure and how do they know that it is bad if they don't go to investigate. How do you say there are dangerous goods inside, there are no explosions on the beginning the smoke doesn't have strange colors associated with a chemical fire. Firefighting is a risky activity and risk is always involved, here the risk was not that high on the beginning.
Paulo Jorge Machado
It's an aanmaakblokjesfabriek.
its a firelighter factory, if they knew for sure no one is in no one even risks going in.
ontop of that firefighters might be the biggest fans of everything having to do with fire than anyone else.
I can't believe the name of the place. FIRE-UP!!
Cheers and best wishes from Texas. Stay safe!
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en maar heen en weer lopen en wijzen ,,kom op water!!!!
... what's up with those "motorcycle/fighterjet" helmets!!!???... they seem really bulky, unconfortable and very cumbersome.!!!, .. can you hear???...
We tried one in our department years ago...pretty comfortable...and expensive.
Those 'motorcycle helmets' provide much better protection than the standard US fire helmet. They are true rescue helmets, not just fire buckets that we wear. I tried to get them for our department years ago...no luck. It doesn't look like a fire helmet. Forget about how good they are, they just don't look good.
PoppaBlue59 i have yet to find a serious study that will state which helmet is better for firefighting. Personally, i still feel that the "amaerican" fire helmets are more confortable and functional. I have worn both. i work as a FF in Texas, but am also a volunteer in Chile and visit quite often were i have used the "rosembauer - Heros XT" helmet... they "suck"... i even have worn the European "traditional" french F1 helmet,... "sucks" even worse. So i have at least used all of these... i will pick a northamerican firefighting helmet over the others (european) in a heart beat. I have seen one particular model from drager that has a "low cut" profile,.. would like to try that one, but have never used it.
r14nicolau Remember the old Federal "Darth Vader" helmets from the 70's and 80's ? That's what I started out with, you too probably! Anyway, just my opinion. Cheers from a fellow Texan.
Dräger helmets => "motorcycle/fighterjet" helmets????? Dräger is one of the specialists in personal protection. The helmets are very comfortable with high level of protection and optional internal coms. You don't have to take your helmet off in order to put your mask on, it simply clicks on the helmet.
why have a fire dept if ur goin to watch it burn
Why the firemen not kill the fire as it was small at start of the video? So the fire kill the hall fully! Or it is normally - then the Nederland Insurance pay the broken hall?
Was it small? Have you been there? Do you know what dangerous goods were stored in the building? Probably not.
When was the building a total loss? When the fire brigade arrived and continued to waste water on the siding, not reading the smoke and not following the golden rule, if its red, give it a drink. surround, contain, attack. yet another all time fail.
Keith Weathersbee here’s some background information: the company produces firestarters and other products related to it. So when a fire starts in a building full of these types of products, it wil just burn like there’s no tommorow. From the outside it may not have looked like there was much going on, but the firefighters knew al along that it was a burning haze inside. The walls of the building were also build to contain a fire inside and withstand an outside heat source. This is why it may not have looked like there was a big fire in the beginning. But trust me, they’re professionals, they know what they’re doing.
When you become a police officer, an arm of the law, .. you need to have the distinct ability to just "stand around" .. and watch .. firefighters do the heavy work.
ze doen bijna niks
Doe niet zo stoer, je had t zelf helemaal niet gekund.
Op het moment dat de brandweer het pand binnenkomt, komt er ook veel zuurstof bij de brand. Dit zorgt voor een flash-over waarbij de temperaturen tot 1000 C kunnen oplopen!!! Als jij denkt dat je dat overleeft moet je brandweerman worden!
Vuur werk je loopt in herhaaling in de reacties
een carnavalskanaal Die negatieve reacties op het brandweeroptreden zijn pas herhaling...
een carnavalskanaal bovendien is het herhaling, en niet herhaaling
ja en?
This must be their version of urban renewal just let it burn.
Come vigili del fuoco non valgono a niente al posto di spegnere anno fatto continuare a divulgare le fiamme e anno perso solo il tempo a parlare
1 pisstraaltje in beeld, gericht op de buitenkant van de deur.
Geen hoogwerkers; geen (poging om) naar binnen te gaan.
Wat is dit???
Wat dit is? Kennis van zaken dat is wat dit is.
its like watching amateur ppl wearing bike helmets trying to put out a car fire get more training and better engins
Due to the intensity of the fire, design of the building, and the fact that it was the firestarters factory, it was deemed unsafe for crews to be sent inside. That's when the defensive approach was made. These "motorcycle helmets" are the standard issue fire helmets across the world.
lach anstatt das jemanden mal einfallen würde zu löschen ,stehen alles nur rum und warten bis die Würste fertig sind ,komische Feuerwehr
NUJA RAUCH IS KEI FEUER
so ein schmarrn wenns raucht brennts auch ,sonst würds ned rauchen ,
Ja irgendwie kommt mir das komisch vor, wollen die Kameraden nicht löschen, oder war die Lage unklar, oder was war da los? Aber das sieht auch so aus als wären da zuerst zu wenig Feuerwehrleute dort (ich zähle nur 4 Feuerwehrfahrzeuge zum anfang hin), vielleicht siehts deswegen so aus als würden die nix tun, obwohl das gar nicht stimmt, oder so, oder es lag ein anderes signifikantes Problem vor (der Firmenname FireUP, klingt so nach leicht brennbaren Materialien), ich will den Kameraden dort nicht einfach so vorwerfen sie hätten unverantwortlich gehandelt, wir haben nicht alle Informationen um das beurteilen zu können.
hm dann muss das ja eine bombige heisse Sache gewesen sein , da ist warten besser man kennt das ja wasser und brennendes ölzusammen das ist übler als ein vulkanausbruch
Jetzt mal ernsthaft, die haben wahrscheinlich am Anfang nur die Information darüber habt das dort höchst brennbares Material vorhanden ist, und da hätte auch die deutsche
Feuerwehr erstmal höchste vorsicht walten lassen, bis klar ist, was da drin gelagert wird. Es sei denn Menschenleben wären akut in Gefahr...oder nicht?