I main 4 classes Awk Musa, Awk DK, Awk Lahn and Dosa... and so far awk Lahn has terrible stamina management which means u need to do less mistake every time u engage and make it worthwhile..
29:45 As a main lahn succ, i can say succ has the same problems overall. Stamina issues are BIG. During nimbus (2-3s duration max) should be d so archers and rangers don't 1shot you while trying to reach them, and the flight in succ has the same problems. I lost count of how many times i flew over a fight like 2-3 character heighs above and i still get grabed and flames CC you even flying over the fort turret... Thats like 6-8m above the fight/fort but still get CCed. Same problems with valks/mystic vacuums, they just bug you mid air no matter how high you are flying. Also, succ has 0 dmg in AoS, there is no point of playing succ lahn in solare, top succ lahn (azurlia) has like 1800 points, BRNY has 2.4k with awa... completely useless in 1v1, 90% of the CCs are unprotected, there is a gap on every main skill, we have barely no mouse movement and also no grab, so Qblockers are immortal for us in succ, and we have way less accuracy in succ than awa, hopefully this will be fixed soon XD PROS? : we can engage way easier in nodes/sieges but that is nothing since you get instakilled the moment you get closer to a ball of 5-10 players. I just realized that awa lahn has most of the problems that succ has too, i didn't play awa, maybe 10h or less so i didn't know but it is nice to know ^.^
succ definitely does not have stamina issues, if you’re having issues with stam on succession you need to take a look at what you’re doing wrong. nimbus should absolutely not be either, that would just be insane, it makes sense that you get hit in the air, makes you a little more mindful of your movements if anything. when it comes to the flight, if you’re too close to the ground you’re still going to get grabbed, so that’s a player mistake as well & not a class issue. the flamethrower thing however will always be an issue for lahn, unfortunately that’s just how it is, but it’s not that big of a deal, you should be able to maneuver around it for the most part. vacuums will also mess you up pretty bad, but for the most part it’s not impossible to avoid unless you’re landing, in that case you’d just be stuck for a few seconds. succ isn’t the greatest at 1v1’s but to say her cc’s are primarily unprotected is just wrong.. with experience on the class it’s not hard to SA rotate and cc efficiently. unfortunately your opinion is primarily based in a lack of experience, once you get more practice a lot of these things that you mentioned shouldn’t really be an issue.
@@glaiives If i didn't know u were a main lahn i though u were just trolling in the coments lmao. Insane like valk current pvp state u mean? or like musa dmg in low pvp tiers? or archer/ranger dmg? or zerker 5s grab? or most of the bruisers ignoring 30% grab resist passive? or zerker no stamina consumption, being in both 1v1 and large scale meta for 7 years? insane like sage dmg+accuracy? insane like woosa mobility+s+dmg + parry that stack dmg and 1shot u?? like sorc survivability?? That lvl of insanity we talking about? BRNY was absolutely right. Lahn needs a check and an update/buff patchs. The class just got stucked in 2022 meta and the pvp has changed a lot, making lahn face a lot of problems that should be fixed as BRNY said, like flames, vacuum hitbox and so, and 1 option is to make part of nimbus animation d for like 2s for example like woosa or maegu w+f/shift+space, and i think succ is not an exception. With next DR rework, in KR lahn dmg went down bad. You can only target archers rangers and mages, the other classes got like 30% max hp with a full combo unless u have 5 pen debos. But yeah, i think i need to learn how to rotate SA's, not like the class needs to update damage, protections, CCs and stamina issues + something to counter Qblockers immortality now with DR rework. i don't know if u played much lahn lately or only maegu, but just compare lahn succ with any of the newest classes state and try to tell me the class is fine without blushing.
@@Seiza_InSomnia i’m speaking for succession - but it seems like people always compare the class to other classes when judging whether or not it’s good. the class is extremely good in all forms of pvp. it’s not a broken FOTM class but that doesn’t make it any less good than it is. comparing succ lahn to other classes doesn’t draw attention away from the fact that the points you had brought up were primarily in regards to things that were a personal skill issue & not a class issue. i’ve played the spec since release, it’s always been weak against shield classes, but that’s kind of just how the class is. not every class is going to be good at everything.
I think this interview had most my complaints listed...was the one i agreed with the most in terms of pvp, balance, pay out v reward on skills... In regards to faster and faster mobility...feel like it'll become that 20+ year old game Guns or whatever it was called... 😂 I mained Lahn until her stamina nerfs. Losing via stamina attrition is one of the worst feelings I've had in pvp. It began happening more and more to the point most my losses were due to stamina attrition.
Wait, what?? The hit box is still on the ground even though I took off flying? Wow, this explains a lot! Why???? How would the player know?? This is so unfair!!! Awake Lahn has always been in the "forgotten classes" category for PA. While it would only take from them to just watch this video to fix the class - they will NEVER do it - Lahn is never getting even just some more stamina. It's a gliding/flying class that lacks stamina to competitively put it into use. It also uses the theoretically and visually longest-reach-type melee weapons in the game while has maybe the smallest AOE - when, theoretically, should have the largest. PA created this class, got scared of it and perma-nerfed it. All plans and buff promises are gone. And the June 19, 2024 changes was a nerf too for Lahn. I will NOT play Beserker though, sorry PA!
It will always be crazy how braindead succession is in comparison. How the devs are able to make something relaxing then down the road make something miserable to play like mashing 1000 buttons on awa drak. They do a terrible job of balancing gameplay for the classes. IT's like they cook something in their head with a frankenstein recipe and just commit to it. Still never seen people go back to maegu awa even after the tweaks.
its almost like they make different classes for different types of players. Some players have smooth brains and slow hands so they have classes like succ lahn/Awa Witch/awa gaurdian/etc. Some players brain's are wrinkled and their hands are faster and so they make classes like awa nova/awa DK/Ninja/kuno etc. I don't know how that isn't obvious to you lol
I mean even with the tweaks awak maegu is just not great in pve. She's limited to small aoe spots and even there the effort to reward ratio isn't great. In PvP she's giga cancer fotm tho and there's a lot of people playing her. Getting a deserved nerf next week.
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I main 4 classes Awk Musa, Awk DK, Awk Lahn and Dosa... and so far awk Lahn has terrible stamina management which means u need to do less mistake every time u engage and make it worthwhile..
This guy is a beast on RBF!
I wish this guy made a Lahn Awakening guide
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I appreciate the shoutout 🙏
29:45 As a main lahn succ, i can say succ has the same problems overall. Stamina issues are BIG. During nimbus (2-3s duration max) should be d so archers and rangers don't 1shot you while trying to reach them, and the flight in succ has the same problems. I lost count of how many times i flew over a fight like 2-3 character heighs above and i still get grabed and flames CC you even flying over the fort turret... Thats like 6-8m above the fight/fort but still get CCed. Same problems with valks/mystic vacuums, they just bug you mid air no matter how high you are flying.
Also, succ has 0 dmg in AoS, there is no point of playing succ lahn in solare, top succ lahn (azurlia) has like 1800 points, BRNY has 2.4k with awa... completely useless in 1v1, 90% of the CCs are unprotected, there is a gap on every main skill, we have barely no mouse movement and also no grab, so Qblockers are immortal for us in succ, and we have way less accuracy in succ than awa, hopefully this will be fixed soon XD
PROS? : we can engage way easier in nodes/sieges but that is nothing since you get instakilled the moment you get closer to a ball of 5-10 players. I just realized that awa lahn has most of the problems that succ has too, i didn't play awa, maybe 10h or less so i didn't know but it is nice to know ^.^
succ definitely does not have stamina issues, if you’re having issues with stam on succession you need to take a look at what you’re doing wrong. nimbus should absolutely not be either, that would just be insane, it makes sense that you get hit in the air, makes you a little more mindful of your movements if anything. when it comes to the flight, if you’re too close to the ground you’re still going to get grabbed, so that’s a player mistake as well & not a class issue. the flamethrower thing however will always be an issue for lahn, unfortunately that’s just how it is, but it’s not that big of a deal, you should be able to maneuver around it for the most part. vacuums will also mess you up pretty bad, but for the most part it’s not impossible to avoid unless you’re landing, in that case you’d just be stuck for a few seconds. succ isn’t the greatest at 1v1’s but to say her cc’s are primarily unprotected is just wrong.. with experience on the class it’s not hard to SA rotate and cc efficiently. unfortunately your opinion is primarily based in a lack of experience, once you get more practice a lot of these things that you mentioned shouldn’t really be an issue.
@@glaiives If i didn't know u were a main lahn i though u were just trolling in the coments lmao. Insane like valk current pvp state u mean? or like musa dmg in low pvp tiers? or archer/ranger dmg? or zerker 5s grab? or most of the bruisers ignoring 30% grab resist passive? or zerker no stamina consumption, being in both 1v1 and large scale meta for 7 years? insane like sage dmg+accuracy? insane like woosa mobility+s+dmg + parry that stack dmg and 1shot u?? like sorc survivability?? That lvl of insanity we talking about?
BRNY was absolutely right. Lahn needs a check and an update/buff patchs. The class just got stucked in 2022 meta and the pvp has changed a lot, making lahn face a lot of problems that should be fixed as BRNY said, like flames, vacuum hitbox and so, and 1 option is to make part of nimbus animation d for like 2s for example like woosa or maegu w+f/shift+space, and i think succ is not an exception. With next DR rework, in KR lahn dmg went down bad. You can only target archers rangers and mages, the other classes got like 30% max hp with a full combo unless u have 5 pen debos. But yeah, i think i need to learn how to rotate SA's, not like the class needs to update damage, protections, CCs and stamina issues + something to counter Qblockers immortality now with DR rework. i don't know if u played much lahn lately or only maegu, but just compare lahn succ with any of the newest classes state and try to tell me the class is fine without blushing.
@@Seiza_InSomnia i’m speaking for succession - but it seems like people always compare the class to other classes when judging whether or not it’s good. the class is extremely good in all forms of pvp. it’s not a broken FOTM class but that doesn’t make it any less good than it is. comparing succ lahn to other classes doesn’t draw attention away from the fact that the points you had brought up were primarily in regards to things that were a personal skill issue & not a class issue. i’ve played the spec since release, it’s always been weak against shield classes, but that’s kind of just how the class is. not every class is going to be good at everything.
Bruh awk lahn stamina issue is something else man.. not even close to succ lahn imo..
wait, that BRNY guy thats a complete farmer on maegu is a lahn main? legend
For PVE endgame, I have the same issue with ranger Aw, I also run out of skills.
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I think this interview had most my complaints listed...was the one i agreed with the most in terms of pvp, balance, pay out v reward on skills...
In regards to faster and faster mobility...feel like it'll become that 20+ year old game Guns or whatever it was called... 😂
I mained Lahn until her stamina nerfs. Losing via stamina attrition is one of the worst feelings I've had in pvp. It began happening more and more to the point most my losses were due to stamina attrition.
Wait, what?? The hit box is still on the ground even though I took off flying?
Wow, this explains a lot! Why???? How would the player know?? This is so unfair!!!
Awake Lahn has always been in the "forgotten classes" category for PA. While it would only take from them to just watch this video to fix the class - they will NEVER do it - Lahn is never getting even just some more stamina. It's a gliding/flying class that lacks stamina to competitively put it into use. It also uses the theoretically and visually longest-reach-type melee weapons in the game while has maybe the smallest AOE - when, theoretically, should have the largest. PA created this class, got scared of it and perma-nerfed it. All plans and buff promises are gone. And the June 19, 2024 changes was a nerf too for Lahn. I will NOT play Beserker though, sorry PA!
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It will always be crazy how braindead succession is in comparison. How the devs are able to make something relaxing then down the road make something miserable to play like mashing 1000 buttons on awa drak.
They do a terrible job of balancing gameplay for the classes. IT's like they cook something in their head with a frankenstein recipe and just commit to it.
Still never seen people go back to maegu awa even after the tweaks.
its almost like they make different classes for different types of players. Some players have smooth brains and slow hands so they have classes like succ lahn/Awa Witch/awa gaurdian/etc. Some players brain's are wrinkled and their hands are faster and so they make classes like awa nova/awa DK/Ninja/kuno etc.
I don't know how that isn't obvious to you lol
personally I dont like lahn succession.. I get really sleepy, so yeah, hope PA keeps creating different classes styles ❤
I mean even with the tweaks awak maegu is just not great in pve. She's limited to small aoe spots and even there the effort to reward ratio isn't great.
In PvP she's giga cancer fotm tho and there's a lot of people playing her. Getting a deserved nerf next week.
why did bro lower his voice and bitrate for this interview? 😂😂🤡
I did this to make his voice better and smooth
Lahn can’t have everything my dude! Stamina issue’s make it at least a slight chance to kill it in 1v1’s
As if 1v1 it wasnt strong enough. Dude. I couldnt be able to beat a decent lahn on 1v1 .