3rd Secret published 2013 in Chiesa Viva: A great chastisement will fall on the entire human race; not today as yet, not tomorrow, but in the second half of the Twentieth Century. No longer does order reign anywhere and Satan will reign over the highest places directing the course of events. He (Satan) will really succeed in infiltrating to the top of the Church. Also for the Church a time for Her greatest trials will come. Cardinals will oppose Cardinals; Bishops will oppose Bishops and Satan will march amid their ranks, and in Rome there will be changes. What is rotten will fall, and what will fall will never rise again. The Church will be darkened and the world deranged by terror. A great war will break out within the second half of the Twentieth Century. Fire and smoke will fall from Heaven, the water of the oceans will become vapors and the foam will rise up flooding and sinking everything. Millions and millions of people will die by the hour and the survivors will envy the dead. Death will reign everywhere for the errors committed by the foolish and by the partisans of Satan, who, then and only then, will reign over the world. At last, those who survive all of these events will once more proclaim God and His Glory and serve Him like before, when the world was not so corrupted.
If only a Pope had, together with all the Bishops of the Catholic Church, consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I believe the faithful would be living in a time of peace. But defiant children of GOD don’t listen, so Jesus sent His Mother again on other apparitions to tell all humanity tp stop sinning, repent and return to Jesus. Here it is 2024 and nothing yet. This world is in darkness and how very deep is the darkness. When God is removed from everything and everybody, Satan says with certainty, “You Are Mine.” the faithful people of earth need Divine Intervention from Heaven. The good are tired and feel defeated fighting all the evils of this planet and especially the one carried on their shoulders of the great chastisement which will not spare even the Clergy, the laity and the good. Pray the Rosary daily.😢
in he second half of the 20th century, we have witnessed the beginnings of a world war, in piecemeal sections has hadall leading to something bigger. Wars in Africa: Burundi,Congo, Ruanda,Sudan,Eritrea,Ethiopia,Cameroon, Chad, Uganda,Tanzania, Yemen, Libya; in the middle East,Egypt,Syria,Israel,Lebanon,Iran,Iraq,Gulf; in Asia Russia, Chechenya, Georgis,Ukraine,Tajikistan; and not forgetting former Yugoslavia,Croatia,Bosnia ,Hertzegovina,…….the world has gone through bad times and now is facing new looming dangers… it is a never ending string of conflicts and wars…..Our Lady warned us and we cannot ignore her warnings and her appeal for prayer, fogiveness and change of hearts.
The world war of all world wars is coming, and it doesn't take a a seer to figure that out. This Mother Earth, our home given to us by God Almighty to steward and protect, is becoming a fire pit. We have failed in our duty. The Evil One was successful in having the world envy and adopt the economic system of the United States, a system based on consumerism and predatory capitalism and Masonic influence. The Evil one did march among the ranks of bishops and cardinals, and spread the virus of pedophilia, so much so that many see the Pope as the Evil One himself in seat of Peter. We now desire smart phones, video games, sex both real and cyber and have nothing left for God. The Evil one has won ...for now. The war that is about to happen , and the vision in the text, are about dwindling WATER resources. When I read this text, my mental images was of a planet as hot as the dinosaur age, when the only advanced life was cold blooded. I have seen the impact of excessive lingering heat here in Texas. The state of Texas agriculture department recently issued a statement that we can no longer bear a growing population, and our sources of water are nearly depleted. Road rage especially during the summer, which is now 9 months out of the year, is rampant. People are starting to feel the agony of heat. A shooting war for what's left is coming , and the bloody mount of bodies topped by cross as described in the Fatima vision, will happen. Bodies will fall everywhere once water sources end. It's all our fault...
Dear Xavier, I just gave my General Confession today and received the Holy Eucharist after a long period away, in part to your interviews I have watched in the past year. Prayers for you and your great work on shows like this one ❤️
Thank you Xavier and Bob. Very well done. I believe that the Akita message is the third secret of Fatima. Mother Mary wanted the world to know the third secret but it was not released so she came to Akita. We have to pray for the priests, bishops, cardinals and most of all for the pope. Also I pray for the whole of humanity. So that nobody goes to eternal damnation. God bless
Me too … our Lady of Akita , la Salette and Fatima is our true Blessed and Holy Mother Mary . I’m not sure about medjugorje . It’s never sat right with me for some reason.
@@Kamon67Not the end times Counterfeit Church. Rome is in Apostasy The Jewish Passover Prayers said in the Temple in Jerusalem are in the Tridentine Mass. His Death Deat Prayers.
The Rosary is our weapon. Thank you, Xavier and Bob for this discussion, full of well-researched information. Things don't look so good on many fronts these days, but thank you for your faith-filled HOPE and prayerfulness. May God bless you both for your selflessness in keeping us up-to-date and well-informed.
@ocruxavemedia Xavier don't lose courage , your ministry is the most important one in the world. by the way, I absolutely adored your British accent, it suits you :-) , God Bless Sr Anna Pauline
It’s with heavy heart I have to say I know people who are hoping for a chastisement to come as they think it will make people believe. I’d think it’s better for to pray for non believers to convert and become believers and avoid any chastisement . I think God do not want to chastise anyone but would love for us to pray and convert non believers by our prayer from The heart . Pray pray pray especially for peace and for Gods Will to be done on earth . Thy Kingdom Come . Lord your Will be done . God Bless you all ❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you both for your sober yet incisive commentary. Trying to remain loyal and supportive of our Pope Francis and the Vatican in these times, where in the very air we breath distortion reigns, is indeed a very fraught, discouraging, and often exhausting (as you expressed, Xavier) endeavor. But please take heart, and know how much your efforts help us all remain cohesive, even as we're spread out all over the globe. What you're doing is critical - truly, if you only knew - to helping people keep the flame alive and encouraging us that the Body of Christ is very much intact. There aren't many men and women out there able to do what you do with such charity, humility, and faithfulness to the doctrine. It's a minefield, to be sure, yet you and your cohort are helping us all get through safely. Thank you again.
Most Precious Blood of Jesus, have mercy on us. Save us and the whole world. Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us. Immaculate Heart of Mary, Pray for us. Saint Joseph, pray for us. Archangel Michael, Garbiel, Raphael, and all the Angels and Saints in Heaven. Pray for us. Amen!
The best secret.....save your soul. Regular confession, Holy Communion and daily recitation of the rosary. Visit Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament if possible every day 🙏
I’m in Southern California and there are several of us doing this…God must hear our prayers. We must continue to pray for our country and its election.
Yes very true and facts! Perfect said and i agree perfectly. Follow this advise for Path Way of each individual soul. May Our God blessing you all! ❤❤❤Amen! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹😇😇😇😇
Pope Francis might have been chosen at a wrong era...... Pope Benedict was a wonnderful Pope. He kept Francis from makinf mistakes (all this is my opinion) Pope Fracis was raised in a very liberal socialist nation. So some of his remarks come from how he was brought up not how he really feels about them, they are spontanous not felt. It gets him into trouble. It probably is hard for him, he needs our prayers. As often as we pray, he influences a lot of people of all religions, nationality.
One of the Bishops of Amazon was interviewed. He was explaining that the Amazon people have no word for celibacy or abstinence. As he went on about “the faith”, I almost felt sick. He said they were insulted if they offered their daughter or wives. I ask then: Isn’t it the missionary jobs to teach the gospels and the teachings of the church? The lack of teaching became apparent with pachama during the Amazon synod. Which opened the gates of hell. I am also struggling with Cardinal Fernandez writes porn. He is doing terrible things. The fruits are those being chosen to run the church 😭😭
Pope Francis never fails me to cause some vertigo because of his pronouncements, actions which contradict what i have been taught. However, he is the Pope of the Holy Roman, Apostolic Church. I can only pray to the Holy Spirit. More importantly, i always pray for the Bishops, Cardinals, Missionaries and the Religious every time I pray in the Adoration Chapel; Recite the daily rosary; Sunday and Daily Mass.
In their last video, they went through all of the activities that they have been working on. I don’t know how they have more than 5-10min of time to edit those videos on only select days. The activities they have been busy with are easily as important as getting those videos out to satisfy our curiosity. I am also anxious to see them but we have heard all that there is to hear. We will have to be satisfied with knowing they will eventually come. As GOD Wills it. Peace.
be humble in front of Church Hierarchy. You can question the Pope but to call him a bad Pope is so wrong. We did the same 2000 years ago with Jesus. Same story repeat todayWe have a ''pastoral'' Pope vs the Theologian Pope we had in the past.
What i domt understand, is that the Cure dArs confessed the children of Salette and they admited to him they were lying. But when the vatican declared it authentic he said obedience to the church was all and he was wrong. That is why i am always uneasy about Our Lady of La Salette
Xavier - you need to wear a bluetooth ear piece (or headphones) and mute your computer. we can still hear @ElijahsCloak coming through your computer speaker.
Sister Lucy said that the Third Secret was not to be revealed till 1960. Our Lady said it would be clear by then. Short, Apostacy of Vatican Council 2. Add Salt to the wounds, JP2 signed the Vatican Ostopolic policy in 1983' No criticism of Communism. Allan.
The Popes were warning about heresy long before the Council. V2 was used as a vehicle to introduce changes for several decades after the 60s. What comes first - the apostate or the apostasy?
Italy had a Rule punishable by imprisonment if A Member of a masonic fraternity was not enrolled with his masonic number with his real name or baptised name in the Register. Its available from WW2. Allan.
No mention of the three Days of Darkness foretold by Anna Maria Tiagi and many other mystics. Only blessed candles will give light. Available on ' Return to Tradition by Anthony Stine. Many others have uploads. Allan
Apparitions messages are repetitive because the Vatican 2 is blocking the announcements of the messages 😡 still The revelations will happen. It's written that Many souls will be lost because they follow personalities and not Jesus. Many faithful are in it because Jesus is like a cloak they wear to look and feel important and have no clue that heresies are already happening. Remain in the words of Jesus and ignore the personalities or high offices 🙏
Xavier: you might also have mentioned Lourdes. As I write this, the 5th prophecy of Lourdes long buried by the Church may be about to be realized. Here I cite your book again (p 481) describing the war between Islam and the West and how "a bomb of great power will fall on a city in Persia..." That certainly sounds like an Israeli nuclear strike on Tehran. Hope I'm wrong about this -- but as I write it does appear things are playing out as prophecied at Lourdes.
Our God begging His children for Conversion and Reparation of your sins. Go to confession and receive Holy Communion in the Tongue. Kneel down and receive the Body and Blood of Christ reverently. Our Living God said that we must to attend the Holy Mass most especially Sunday Holy Mass. Before attending Holy Mass, we first confess your sin with remorse. Amen! ❤❤❤
See Pastor Aeternus of Vatican I concerning the Indefectibility of the Pope (as distinguished from infallibility): "This gift of truth and never-failing faith was therefore divinely conferred on Peter and his successors in this See so that they might discharge their exalted office for the salvation of all, and so that the whole flock of Christ might be kept away by them from the poisonous food of error and be nourished with the sustenance of heavenly doctrine. Thus the tendency to schism is removed and the whole Church is preserved in unity, and, resting on its foundation, can stand firm against the gates of hell."
Indefectabity is normally attributed to the Church. But the role of the Papacy is closely tied to this attrbute of the Church. I am definitely not an expert in V I but I have heard concerns about that Council regarding hyperpapalism. I would point to past popes who were in error - Pope Honorius who taught that Jesus possessed just 1 will and Pope Liberius who promoted Arianism.
50:20 not my own position but trying to understand without judging the pope; from ChatGPT Pope Francis has reformed the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) by dividing it into two sections: doctrinal and disciplinary. This restructuring aims to ensure that doctrinal protection and the handling of canonical violations are managed more effectively. The doctrinal section focuses on promoting and safeguarding the teachings of the Church, while the disciplinary section deals with serious canonical infractions and the implementation of judicial procedures. A key element of this reform has been the introduction of two separate secretaries to oversee each section, ensuring that both areas receive the attention they require. The change also highlights a broader pastoral approach to church governance, moving away from a purely legal or doctrinal perspective to emphasise dialogue and clarity  . In terms of eliminating old protocols, Pope Francis has sought to modernise and streamline Vatican operations. He has often argued for a less rigid and more transparent approach to ecclesial matters, which means moving away from past practices that may have seemed too secretive or bureaucratic .
36:46 No, it is not true that the Vatican is considering introducing a new liturgy for the Amazon region that would change the words of consecration during Mass. However, discussions are underway about the possibility of creating an 'Amazon rite' specific to the region, which could involve some adaptations to the liturgy to better resonate with local cultures and traditions. This idea emerged at the Amazon Synod 2019, where the proposal for a liturgy adapted to the indigenous communities of the region was raised, inspired by the principle of liturgical inculturation (i.e. adapting liturgical practices to local cultures while retaining the essential elements of the Roman rite)  . This proposed Amazonian rite would not seek to alter essential aspects of Catholic doctrine, such as the words of consecration in the Eucharist, but rather to incorporate indigenous cultural elements in a way that maintains continuity with the universal Catholic tradition. For example, this might involve the use of local symbols or music in the liturgy, in the same way that the Zairian rite was developed for African contexts . Although discussions on this are ongoing, there has been no official decision to introduce a major change in the words or structure of the Mass itself. It is important to note that any such adaptations would still be subject to the approval of the Vatican Dicastery for Divine Worship, and that the aim is to remain faithful to the universal teachings of the Church. Source: ChatGPT
I hope that this is correct. The problem with AI answers is that it aggregates existing information. If there exists 2 point of views, for example, it may deliver information from a point of view that is incorrect.
33:13 The debate surrounding Pope Francis and the adoration of the Pachamama, which hit the headlines during the Synod on the Amazon in 2019, is generating contrasting opinions. Here are arguments for and against the accusations made against Pope Francis on this subject. Arguments "for" (defending the inclusion of the Pachamama as a symbol) 1 Recognition of local cultures: The Vatican stressed that the presence of the statue of the Pachamama (a goddess of the Earth in some Andean cultures) was intended to show respect for the traditions of indigenous peoples. Pope Francis has encouraged an inculturation approach, where the Church is open to including local cultural elements as long as they do not contradict the Christian faith. 2 Symbolic and non-idolatrous expression: Some defenders argue that the Pachamama was not used in a context of idolatrous worship but as a symbol of nature and fertility, representing the protection of the environment. In their view, the Church can use cultural symbols without adopting their original religious connotations. 3) Openness to inter-religious dialogue: Pope Francis has emphasised dialogue and inclusiveness to reconcile the Church with marginalised cultures and in relation to environmental justice. From this perspective, the symbol of the Pachamama could have been a way of approaching these communities in a respectful manner. Arguments "against" (criticisms of the inclusion of the Pachamama) 1 Risk of syncretism: Some Catholics fear that the inclusion of symbols such as the Pachamama leads to syncretism, mixing religious elements that could dilute Christian teachings and faith. In their view, the Church should not adopt symbols linked to pre-Christian or pagan religious practices. 2) Perception of idolatry: The most virulent critics saw the veneration of the statue of the Pachamama as an act of idolatry, incompatible with Christianity. They felt that the presence of the statue in a church, combined with gestures of respect (such as prostration), could be interpreted as worship, even if this was not the official intention. 3 Confusion for the faithful: Some members of the faithful and theologians fear that the use of controversial symbols could confuse believers by sending out an ambiguous message about the Church's beliefs. Critics believe this could distract Catholics from the Church's central teaching and undermine its spiritual mission. Background and reactions Following the controversy, Pope Francis apologised for the discomfort caused by the statue's presence, stating that his intention was not to encourage idolatry but to show respect for the indigenous culture. This did not allay concerns, and the debate remains heated in some Catholic circles. Ultimately, there are differing views on whether the inclusion of the Pachamama was a sign of benevolent cultural openness or a risky move for the doctrinal integrity of the Church.
The reason why it was wrong is that there was no attempt to convert the idol into Christian tradition. It could have been presented as our Blessed Mother of the Amazon but instead it was presented as pachamama along with accompanying pagan ritual. The Church has a precedence for converting pagan symbols such as the Roman Saturnalian Tree into the Christian symbol of everlasting life - the Christmas Tree. But this is not what occurred.
When in doubt, I suggest we Catholic laity read the catechism and go back to the Bible. Pray without ceasing and try to form a community at a local level. I live in an area that is mainly atheist but those that are Catholics think the church is “outdated” and needs to be revitalized. I spend time arguing with these people by bringing up the foundations I’ve learnt about our faith and what Jesus Christ created in his church. It’s a tough ride but Jesus never said it was going to be easy. Something did happen in the 20th century in the catechesis in the western world because I am yet to come across one catholic baby boomer that understands the faith. My generation is full of Catholics by name only who absolutely put God last if in any order at all. It’s heartbreaking but it can change. It is up to us to teach our children the truth and be bold in our faith. It starts with the family. Over the last 100 years the destruction of the family has been a priority for the evil one. Let’s focus on rebuilding the nuclear family and the traditional roles of the father and the mother.
From Our Lord's 9/30/2024 message to Luz de Maria: "The Antichrist takes power over humanity which is ceded to him by the elite in total and absolute secrecy, beginning on the second day of the month of October in the year 2024. From then on, the suffering of all humanity will increase. I call you to pray intensely on that day the Holy Rosary, the Creed and the Holy Trisagion. This Secret consists of two signs: (1) You will live anguish on Earth, confusion is total for those who remain lukewarm. (2) The Most Holy Sorrow has arrived: those closest to Me betray Me a second time [referring to Synod held in this October]."
In regards to the African woman singing the Latin creed. Does she understand the words of the song or is she just repeating the pronunciation? When I was young my mother took me to a church in which the mass was in a language that I mostly did not understand. I went through the motions, but did not understand the gospel and teachings and that was a huge loss. If the mass is in Latin, although powerful, if the partitioners do not speak it, the message and teachings are lost.
We cannot assume that they were not taught the meaning of the words in their own language. If that were the case, it would be very ineffective evangelism which is contrary to the evidence of the fruit of that effort in Africa.
Yes, we were saying that the war mentioned has been deferred and that according to Maximin of LaSalette,it should occur by the end of the first quarter of the 21st Century, 2025. It may have already started.
@@ElijahsCloak Please, who said that it was deferred? Could I read the source of the mystic who said that it was deferred? The more dates are missed (given all of the videos over the last few years claiming something will happen "next" month or so) the more confusion is spread.
That's the day asteroid Apophis will come near the Earth. NASA is well aware. And the Vatican has been watching the sky with the Lucifer telescope they built on Mt. Graham, Arizona. Something destructive is coming. ☄
None of this makes sense. St Padre Pio stated that no one gets punished on Earth when the guy fell from the Scaffold and his sister says that was God's punishing him for blasphemy, Padre Pio says God does not punish on Earth and we are judged after we die. Now someone is not telling the truth, either that or we are confusing 2 Gods. I will go with St Padre Pio on this one, as what you describe could scare people and fear does not come from God.
The apostasy itself is a great chastisement predicted by Padre Pio, Fatima, LaSalette, Quito Ecuador, etc. As mentioned in the video, WWII was a chastisement predicted by Fatima. Both Garabandal and Medjugorje have prophecies of chastisement. I'm sure that Padre Pio would not want you to blame him for misunderstanding Heaven.
@@ElijahsCloak Padre Pio was known for saying, "Pray, hope, and don't worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will hear your prayer. Have courage and do not fear the assaults of the Devil". Some advocates of the three days of darkness have claimed that St. Pio of Pietrelcina (Padre Pio, 1887-1968) predicted it. However, the quotation was given with no traceable source, and the Capuchin order he belonged to denied that he ever made such a prediction.
Our Blessed Mother herself said that there would be chastisements at these major apparition sites. How about Noah and the flood? I think you're misunderstanding something Padre Pio said, if he did indeed say what you claim.
3rd Secret published 2013 in Chiesa Viva:
A great chastisement will fall on the entire human race; not today as yet, not tomorrow, but in the second half of the Twentieth Century. No longer does order reign anywhere and Satan will reign over the highest places directing the course of events. He (Satan) will really succeed in infiltrating to the top of the Church. Also for the Church a time for Her greatest trials will come. Cardinals will oppose Cardinals; Bishops will oppose Bishops and Satan will march amid their ranks, and in Rome there will be changes. What is rotten will fall, and what will fall will never rise again. The Church will be darkened and the world deranged by terror. A great war will break out within the second half of the Twentieth Century. Fire and smoke will fall from Heaven, the water of the oceans will become vapors and the foam will rise up flooding and sinking everything. Millions and millions of people will die by the hour and the survivors will envy the dead. Death will reign everywhere for the errors committed by the foolish and by the partisans of Satan, who, then and only then, will reign over the world. At last, those who survive all of these events will once more proclaim God and His Glory and serve Him like before, when the world was not so corrupted.
@@ElijahsCloak thank you
Thank you. I found the phrase “among other things” interesting.
Was there more?
If only a Pope had, together with all the Bishops of the Catholic Church, consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I believe the faithful would be living in a time of peace. But defiant children of GOD don’t listen, so Jesus sent His Mother again on other apparitions to tell all humanity tp stop sinning, repent and return to Jesus. Here it is 2024 and nothing yet. This world is in darkness and how very deep is the darkness. When God is removed from everything and everybody, Satan says with certainty, “You Are Mine.” the faithful people of earth need Divine Intervention from Heaven. The good are tired and feel defeated fighting all the evils of this planet and especially the one carried on their shoulders of the great chastisement which will not spare even the Clergy, the laity and the good. Pray the Rosary daily.😢
in he second half of the 20th century, we have witnessed the beginnings of a world war, in piecemeal sections has hadall leading to something bigger. Wars in Africa: Burundi,Congo, Ruanda,Sudan,Eritrea,Ethiopia,Cameroon, Chad, Uganda,Tanzania, Yemen, Libya; in the middle East,Egypt,Syria,Israel,Lebanon,Iran,Iraq,Gulf; in Asia Russia, Chechenya, Georgis,Ukraine,Tajikistan; and not forgetting former Yugoslavia,Croatia,Bosnia ,Hertzegovina,…….the world has gone through bad times and now is facing new looming dangers… it is a never ending string of conflicts and wars…..Our Lady warned us and we cannot ignore her warnings and her appeal for prayer, fogiveness and change of hearts.
The world war of all world wars is coming, and it doesn't take a a seer to figure that out. This Mother Earth, our home given to us by God Almighty to steward and protect, is becoming a fire pit. We have failed in our duty. The Evil One was successful in having the world envy and adopt the economic system of the United States, a system based on consumerism and predatory capitalism and Masonic influence. The Evil one did march among the ranks of bishops and cardinals, and spread the virus of pedophilia, so much so that many see the Pope as the Evil One himself in seat of Peter.
We now desire smart phones, video games, sex both real and cyber and have nothing left for God. The Evil one has won ...for now.
The war that is about to happen , and the vision in the text, are about dwindling WATER resources. When I read this text, my mental images was of a planet as hot as the dinosaur age, when the only advanced life was cold blooded. I have seen the impact of excessive lingering heat here in Texas. The state of Texas agriculture department recently issued a statement that we can no longer bear a growing population, and our sources of water are nearly depleted. Road rage especially during the summer, which is now 9 months out of the year, is rampant. People are starting to feel the agony of heat. A shooting war for what's left is coming , and the bloody mount of bodies topped by cross as described in the Fatima vision, will happen. Bodies will fall everywhere once water sources end.
It's all our fault...
Dear Xavier, I just gave my General Confession today and received the Holy Eucharist after a long period away, in part to your interviews I have watched in the past year. Prayers for you and your great work on shows like this one ❤️
Thank you Xavier and Bob. Very well done. I believe that the Akita message is the third secret of Fatima. Mother Mary wanted the world to know the third secret but it was not released so she came to Akita. We have to pray for the priests, bishops, cardinals and most of all for the pope. Also I pray for the whole of humanity. So that nobody goes to eternal damnation. God bless
According to Pope Benedict, the last message of Akita is the 3rd Secret of Fatima.
Me too … our Lady of Akita , la Salette and Fatima is our true Blessed and Holy Mother Mary . I’m not sure about medjugorje . It’s never sat right with me for some reason.
I would say Medjugorje is the fulfillment of Fatima and the key to understand is Garabandal
Our Lady always brings back the Church to Tradition, that's the importance of her apparitions
Our Lady will always submit herself to the Church Hiearchy and authority. It cannot be otherwise, that would be a nonsense
@@Kamon67Not the end times Counterfeit Church. Rome is in Apostasy The Jewish Passover Prayers said in the Temple in Jerusalem are in the Tridentine Mass. His Death Deat Prayers.
The Rosary is our weapon. Thank you, Xavier and Bob for this discussion, full of well-researched information. Things don't look so good on many fronts these days, but thank you for your faith-filled HOPE and prayerfulness. May God bless you both for your selflessness in keeping us up-to-date and well-informed.
Stay in the state of grace. Jesus I trust in You 🙏
Amen
Perfect timing fellas! Things are heating up fast in the world!
Holy Mother, who lightens up for us the path to Jesus: Who is the Way! The Truth and the Life! Pray for us.
Amen
God’s will in all things. Not my will, but Your most Holy Will I desire!
Amen
@ocruxavemedia Xavier don't lose courage , your ministry is the most important one in the world. by the way, I absolutely adored your British accent, it suits you :-) , God Bless Sr Anna Pauline
Amen
It’s with heavy heart I have to say I know people who are hoping for a chastisement to come as they think it will make people believe. I’d think it’s better for to pray for non believers to convert and become believers and avoid any chastisement . I think God do not want to chastise anyone but would love for us to pray and convert non believers by our prayer from
The heart . Pray pray pray especially for peace and for Gods Will to be done on earth . Thy Kingdom Come . Lord your Will be done . God Bless you all ❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you gentlemen 💐 Praying for you both 🙏
❤Thank you for sharing your update on the third secret of Fatima. Blessings to both of you and your families.❤
Bob, you're the consummate gentleman and I always enjoy listening to your videos. God bless your work.
@@jameswatson9641 thank you James
Thank you both for your sober yet incisive commentary. Trying to remain loyal and supportive of our Pope Francis and the Vatican in these times, where in the very air we breath distortion reigns, is indeed a very fraught, discouraging, and often exhausting (as you expressed, Xavier) endeavor. But please take heart, and know how much your efforts help us all remain cohesive, even as we're spread out all over the globe. What you're doing is critical - truly, if you only knew - to helping people keep the flame alive and encouraging us that the Body of Christ is very much intact. There aren't many men and women out there able to do what you do with such charity, humility, and faithfulness to the doctrine. It's a minefield, to be sure, yet you and your cohort are helping us all get through safely. Thank you again.
Wonderful conversation, always a joy to hear Good Men of Faith who Love The Lord, and have such passion and understanding
Thank you for the very kind words
Hi both of you , and God bless you both, from California
Thanks Michael
Holy Mary Mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen. 🙏
Excellent interview, thank you
Thanks for the kind words
Most Precious Blood of Jesus, have mercy on us. Save us and the whole world. Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us. Immaculate Heart of Mary, Pray for us. Saint Joseph, pray for us. Archangel Michael, Garbiel, Raphael, and all the Angels and Saints in Heaven. Pray for us. Amen!
The best secret.....save your soul. Regular confession, Holy Communion and daily recitation of the rosary. Visit Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament if possible every day 🙏
I’m in Southern California and there are several of us doing this…God must hear our prayers. We must continue to pray for our country and its election.
Yes very true and facts! Perfect said and i agree perfectly. Follow this advise for Path Way of each individual soul. May Our God blessing you all! ❤❤❤Amen! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹😇😇😇😇
Follow this great advise for great Salvation of each individual soul, perfectly. Amen.
Xavier beautiful Latin pronunciation....now I can do it too...thanks
praying in latin make you look more legit I get the point He mimic Fr Michel Rodrigue I assume
Enjoyed the discussion very much!🩷🩷🩷✝️
Pray that Pope Francis reads the third secret of Fatima - please Lord!
He has already read it 1000 times
Don't worry, he knows it more than you and all of us
Pope Francis might have been chosen at a wrong era...... Pope Benedict was a wonnderful Pope. He kept Francis from makinf mistakes (all this is my opinion) Pope Fracis was raised in a very liberal socialist nation. So some of his remarks come from how he was brought up not how he really feels about them, they are spontanous not felt. It gets him into trouble. It probably is hard for him, he needs our prayers. As often as we pray, he influences a lot of people of all religions, nationality.
God will not let evil destroy His church ever
Thank you Mark! This episode connects a lot of dots for me! God bless ❤
Im glad that it helped
Vivá Christo Rey! We are so close to The Triumph of The Immaculate Heart of Mary! Keep praying The Rosary!!! 🙏🏽📿✝️
@@scorptarget yes! This is the way to look at it.
One of the Bishops of Amazon was interviewed. He was explaining that the Amazon people have no word for celibacy or abstinence. As he went on about “the faith”, I almost felt sick. He said they were insulted if they offered their daughter or wives. I ask then: Isn’t it the missionary jobs to teach the gospels and the teachings of the church? The lack of teaching became apparent with pachama during the Amazon synod. Which opened the gates of hell. I am also struggling with Cardinal Fernandez writes porn. He is doing terrible things. The fruits are those being chosen to run the church 😭😭
Read the ALL prophecies of La Sallete... then you will see
Pope Francis never fails me to cause some vertigo because of his pronouncements, actions which contradict what i have been taught. However, he is the Pope of the Holy Roman, Apostolic Church. I can only pray to the Holy Spirit. More importantly, i always pray for the Bishops, Cardinals, Missionaries and the Religious every time I pray in the Adoration Chapel; Recite the daily rosary; Sunday and Daily Mass.
Xavier when is yours and Monique´s video coming out about Fr. Michel Rodrigue´s conference in the US... I have been waiting for over 10 days.
In their last video, they went through all of the activities that they have been working on. I don’t know how they have more than 5-10min of time to edit those videos on only select days. The activities they have been busy with are easily as important as getting those videos out to satisfy our curiosity. I am also anxious to see them but we have heard all that there is to hear. We will have to be satisfied with knowing they will eventually come. As GOD Wills it. Peace.
"A bad pope doesn't nullify the truthfulness of the Catholic faith." (posted elsewhere by "@gch")
Very true. The Church has had terrible Popes in its history.
be humble in front of Church Hierarchy. You can question the Pope but to call him a bad Pope is so wrong. We did the same 2000 years ago with Jesus. Same story repeat todayWe have a ''pastoral'' Pope vs the Theologian Pope we had in the past.
Nonsense. We have had bad, even terrible, popes in the past and the Church has acknowleged it.
Thank you both,God bless always🙏♥️
Pray pray pray for God to lessen these things and only God after the evil powers Amen
36:10 thank you and I agree with Xavier on this
What i domt understand, is that the Cure dArs confessed the children of Salette and they admited to him they were lying. But when the vatican declared it authentic he said obedience to the church was all and he was wrong. That is why i am always uneasy about Our Lady of La Salette
My birthday 9/19/60 and my mom told me the priest suggested my name be LaSalette; I'm happy she didn't do that.
St Vianney could not reveal a confession. My understanding is that he at first believed it to be a fraud but later changed his mind.
Making all religions equal it's not just a mistake.
This exact the way Pius X11 would behave .
Xavier - you need to wear a bluetooth ear piece (or headphones) and mute your computer. we can still hear @ElijahsCloak coming through your computer speaker.
Advocate Christopher Ferera has details since the early 2000.
Allan.
The Pope is the Vicar of Christ . He is not the head of the church . God is the head of the church...in this we should feel comfort ....
Perhaps. The Church is us!
Sister Lucy said that the Third Secret was not to be revealed till 1960.
Our Lady said it would be clear by then.
Short, Apostacy of Vatican Council 2.
Add Salt to the wounds,
JP2 signed the Vatican Ostopolic policy in 1983'
No criticism of Communism.
Allan.
The Popes were warning about heresy long before the Council. V2 was used as a vehicle to introduce changes for several decades after the 60s.
What comes first - the apostate or the apostasy?
Italy had a Rule punishable by imprisonment if A Member of a masonic fraternity was not enrolled with his masonic number with his real name or baptised name in the Register.
Its available from WW2.
Allan.
No mention of the three Days of Darkness foretold by Anna Maria Tiagi and many other mystics.
Only blessed candles will give light.
Available on ' Return to Tradition by Anthony Stine.
Many others have uploads.
Allan
As far as I am aware, Our Blessed Mother has not spoken of the 3 Days of Darkness in any approved Marian Apparitions.
Seems like the same message as fr Gobbi was giving
Coincidentally, I intended to read a message to Fr Gobbi that mentioned Fatima.
Amen, thank you, God bless! I've been blessed to read a lot of Father Villas work 🙏!
Apparitions messages are repetitive because the Vatican 2 is blocking the announcements of the messages 😡 still The revelations will happen. It's written that Many souls will be lost because they follow personalities and not Jesus. Many faithful are in it because Jesus is like a cloak they wear to look and feel important and have no clue that heresies are already happening. Remain in the words of Jesus and ignore the personalities or high offices 🙏
I missed the live
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The microphone was very distracting with the echo
I noticed. I will see what I can do about that mic feedback.
Xavier: you might also have mentioned Lourdes. As I write this, the 5th prophecy of Lourdes long buried by the Church may be about to be realized. Here I cite your book again (p 481) describing the war between Islam and the West and how "a bomb of great power will fall on a city in Persia..." That certainly sounds like an Israeli nuclear strike on Tehran. Hope I'm wrong about this -- but as I write it does appear things are playing out as prophecied at Lourdes.
Our God begging His children for Conversion and Reparation of your sins. Go to confession and receive Holy Communion in the Tongue. Kneel down and receive the Body and Blood of Christ reverently. Our Living God said that we must to attend the Holy Mass most especially Sunday Holy Mass. Before attending Holy Mass, we first confess your sin with remorse. Amen! ❤❤❤
Do you know if the film "the Great Warning" US Release 17th Oct 24, will be released in the UK? Thank you.
I do not know
You need someone to help you fix your sound. It’s a technical issue. The noise in the background is rather irritating.
See Pastor Aeternus of Vatican I concerning the Indefectibility of the Pope (as distinguished from infallibility): "This gift of truth and never-failing faith was therefore divinely conferred on Peter and his successors in this See so that they might discharge their exalted office for the salvation of all, and so that the whole flock of Christ might be kept away by them from the poisonous food of error and be nourished with the sustenance of heavenly doctrine. Thus the tendency to schism is removed and the whole Church is preserved in unity, and, resting on its foundation, can stand firm against the gates of hell."
Indefectabity is normally attributed to the Church. But the role of the Papacy is closely tied to this attrbute of the Church. I am definitely not an expert in
V I but I have heard concerns about that Council regarding hyperpapalism.
I would point to past popes who were in error - Pope Honorius who taught that Jesus possessed just 1 will and Pope Liberius who promoted Arianism.
50:20 not my own position but trying to understand without judging the pope; from ChatGPT
Pope Francis has reformed the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) by dividing it into two sections: doctrinal and disciplinary. This restructuring aims to ensure that doctrinal protection and the handling of canonical violations are managed more effectively. The doctrinal section focuses on promoting and safeguarding the teachings of the Church, while the disciplinary section deals with serious canonical infractions and the implementation of judicial procedures.
A key element of this reform has been the introduction of two separate secretaries to oversee each section, ensuring that both areas receive the attention they require. The change also highlights a broader pastoral approach to church governance, moving away from a purely legal or doctrinal perspective to emphasise dialogue and clarity  .
In terms of eliminating old protocols, Pope Francis has sought to modernise and streamline Vatican operations. He has often argued for a less rigid and more transparent approach to ecclesial matters, which means moving away from past practices that may have seemed too secretive or bureaucratic .
Can some put here what exactly was that "secret"?
I pinned the text at the top of the comments
36:46 No, it is not true that the Vatican is considering introducing a new liturgy for the Amazon region that would change the words of consecration during Mass. However, discussions are underway about the possibility of creating an 'Amazon rite' specific to the region, which could involve some adaptations to the liturgy to better resonate with local cultures and traditions. This idea emerged at the Amazon Synod 2019, where the proposal for a liturgy adapted to the indigenous communities of the region was raised, inspired by the principle of liturgical inculturation (i.e. adapting liturgical practices to local cultures while retaining the essential elements of the Roman rite)  .
This proposed Amazonian rite would not seek to alter essential aspects of Catholic doctrine, such as the words of consecration in the Eucharist, but rather to incorporate indigenous cultural elements in a way that maintains continuity with the universal Catholic tradition. For example, this might involve the use of local symbols or music in the liturgy, in the same way that the Zairian rite was developed for African contexts .
Although discussions on this are ongoing, there has been no official decision to introduce a major change in the words or structure of the Mass itself. It is important to note that any such adaptations would still be subject to the approval of the Vatican Dicastery for Divine Worship, and that the aim is to remain faithful to the universal teachings of the Church.
Source: ChatGPT
I hope that this is correct. The problem with AI answers is that it aggregates existing information. If there exists 2 point of views, for example, it may deliver information from a point of view that is incorrect.
Not Ottaviani but cardinal Ciappi hava said that apostasy in church will start from the top
Yes Crdl Ciappi is a very prominent theologian who definitely read tge 3rd secret
33:13 The debate surrounding Pope Francis and the adoration of the Pachamama, which hit the headlines during the Synod on the Amazon in 2019, is generating contrasting opinions. Here are arguments for and against the accusations made against Pope Francis on this subject.
Arguments "for" (defending the inclusion of the Pachamama as a symbol)
1 Recognition of local cultures: The Vatican stressed that the presence of the statue of the Pachamama (a goddess of the Earth in some Andean cultures) was intended to show respect for the traditions of indigenous peoples. Pope Francis has encouraged an inculturation approach, where the Church is open to including local cultural elements as long as they do not contradict the Christian faith.
2 Symbolic and non-idolatrous expression: Some defenders argue that the Pachamama was not used in a context of idolatrous worship but as a symbol of nature and fertility, representing the protection of the environment. In their view, the Church can use cultural symbols without adopting their original religious connotations.
3) Openness to inter-religious dialogue: Pope Francis has emphasised dialogue and inclusiveness to reconcile the Church with marginalised cultures and in relation to environmental justice. From this perspective, the symbol of the Pachamama could have been a way of approaching these communities in a respectful manner.
Arguments "against" (criticisms of the inclusion of the Pachamama)
1 Risk of syncretism: Some Catholics fear that the inclusion of symbols such as the Pachamama leads to syncretism, mixing religious elements that could dilute Christian teachings and faith. In their view, the Church should not adopt symbols linked to pre-Christian or pagan religious practices.
2) Perception of idolatry: The most virulent critics saw the veneration of the statue of the Pachamama as an act of idolatry, incompatible with Christianity. They felt that the presence of the statue in a church, combined with gestures of respect (such as prostration), could be interpreted as worship, even if this was not the official intention.
3 Confusion for the faithful: Some members of the faithful and theologians fear that the use of controversial symbols could confuse believers by sending out an ambiguous message about the Church's beliefs. Critics believe this could distract Catholics from the Church's central teaching and undermine its spiritual mission.
Background and reactions
Following the controversy, Pope Francis apologised for the discomfort caused by the statue's presence, stating that his intention was not to encourage idolatry but to show respect for the indigenous culture. This did not allay concerns, and the debate remains heated in some Catholic circles.
Ultimately, there are differing views on whether the inclusion of the Pachamama was a sign of benevolent cultural openness or a risky move for the doctrinal integrity of the Church.
The reason why it was wrong is that there was no attempt to convert the idol into Christian tradition. It could have been presented as our Blessed Mother of the Amazon but instead it was presented as pachamama along with accompanying pagan ritual.
The Church has a precedence for converting pagan symbols such as the Roman Saturnalian Tree into the Christian symbol of everlasting life - the Christmas Tree. But this is not what occurred.
When in doubt, I suggest we Catholic laity read the catechism and go back to the Bible. Pray without ceasing and try to form a community at a local level. I live in an area that is mainly atheist but those that are Catholics think the church is “outdated” and needs to be revitalized. I spend time arguing with these people by bringing up the foundations I’ve learnt about our faith and what Jesus Christ created in his church. It’s a tough ride but Jesus never said it was going to be easy. Something did happen in the 20th century in the catechesis in the western world because I am yet to come across one catholic baby boomer that understands the faith. My generation is full of Catholics by name only who absolutely put God last if in any order at all. It’s heartbreaking but it can change. It is up to us to teach our children the truth and be bold in our faith. It starts with the family. Over the last 100 years the destruction of the family has been a priority for the evil one. Let’s focus on rebuilding the nuclear family and the traditional roles of the father and the mother.
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From Our Lord's 9/30/2024 message to Luz de Maria:
"The Antichrist takes power over humanity which is ceded to him by the elite in total and absolute secrecy, beginning on the second day of the month of October in the year 2024. From then on, the suffering of all humanity will increase.
I call you to pray intensely on that day the Holy Rosary, the Creed and the Holy Trisagion.
This Secret consists of two signs: (1) You will live anguish on Earth, confusion is total for those who remain lukewarm. (2) The Most Holy Sorrow has arrived: those closest to Me betray Me a second time [referring to Synod held in this October]."
Is this a monologue?
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In regards to the African woman singing the Latin creed. Does she understand the words of the song or is she just repeating the pronunciation? When I was young my mother took me to a church in which the mass was in a language that I mostly did not understand. I went through the motions, but did not understand the gospel and teachings and that was a huge loss. If the mass is in Latin, although powerful, if the partitioners do not speak it, the message and teachings are lost.
We cannot assume that they were not taught the meaning of the words in their own language. If that were the case, it would be very ineffective evangelism which is contrary to the evidence of the fruit of that effort in Africa.
54:33 BINGO! But GOD!!!!
Xavier, for eyesight take some supplements
Please comment. . . The 2nd half of the 20th century is from the years 1950 to 2000. It is in the past. ☹️
Yes, we were saying that the war mentioned has been deferred and that according to Maximin of LaSalette,it should occur by the end of the first quarter of the 21st Century, 2025. It may have already started.
@@ElijahsCloak Please, who said that it was deferred? Could I read the source of the mystic who said that it was deferred? The more dates are missed (given all of the videos over the last few years claiming something will happen "next" month or so) the more confusion is spread.
Pray that Pope Francis and clergy who is making it their church snd not Gods fine a different establisment
Maybe they can go to Scientology
Anikia will happen 13 april 2029
If Jesus said “we know not the day or time., but only my Father in heaven” How can anyone. Let us not fear, but live in the state of Grace always.🙏🏼
Akita
That's the day asteroid Apophis will come near the Earth. NASA is well aware. And the Vatican has been watching the sky with the Lucifer telescope they built on Mt. Graham, Arizona. Something destructive is coming. ☄
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None of this makes sense. St Padre Pio stated that no one gets punished on Earth when the guy fell from the Scaffold and his sister says that was God's punishing him for blasphemy, Padre Pio says God does not punish on Earth and we are judged after we die. Now someone is not telling the truth, either that or we are confusing 2 Gods.
I will go with St Padre Pio on this one, as what you describe could scare people and fear does not come from God.
The apostasy itself is a great chastisement predicted by Padre Pio, Fatima, LaSalette, Quito Ecuador, etc. As mentioned in the video, WWII was a chastisement predicted by Fatima. Both Garabandal and Medjugorje have prophecies of chastisement. I'm sure that Padre Pio would not want you to blame him for misunderstanding Heaven.
@@ElijahsCloak Padre Pio was known for saying, "Pray, hope, and don't worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will hear your prayer. Have courage and do not fear the assaults of the Devil".
Some advocates of the three days of darkness have claimed that St. Pio of Pietrelcina (Padre Pio, 1887-1968) predicted it. However, the quotation was given with no traceable source, and the Capuchin order he belonged to denied that he ever made such a prediction.
Our Blessed Mother herself said that there would be chastisements at these major apparition sites. How about Noah and the flood? I think you're misunderstanding something Padre Pio said, if he did indeed say what you claim.
Must these be so long? Who has time to kill an hour listening?
You can speed up the audio to shorten the time.