I heard the origin of Power Girl's chest was an artist named Wally Woods who was known for dirty comic art (google his Disneyland art) and did some temp work for DC back in the day. The story goes that he thought the publishers were not paying attention to anything he was doing so as a joke he started making Power Girl's chest bigger and bigger in each episode to see how long it would take for the publisher to notice and apparently it took quite a while.
It's one hundred percent true. I came here to see if What Culture--which is always wrong--would get this and they didn't even know this pretty famous story. I would have given them slack if they explained the logo stories without acting like they knew where it came from originally, but since they acted like they knew where it came from from the get-go--and didn't include this--I knew it was just another case of them getting something else wrong.
@@Mhoramdude Justice League Europe #37 (1992) attempts to explain Power Girl's revealing costume by having Crimson Fox question her about it; she receives the reply that the costume "shows what I am: female, healthy. If men want to degrade themselves by staring, that's their problem, I'm not going to apologize for it. this one.....
Same as Mai Shiranui. Follows tales of Kunoichi using their bodies for seduction and distraction en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mai_Shiranui#/media/File:MAI_KOFXIII_stance.gif
One of the best moments in dc comics is in kingdom come, when Bruce Wayne asks what cut of chicken the power girl chicken sandwich is, and the waiter says breast
@@bgucci3135 especially since WW in her early days had a skirt or shorts. a bit later, in her "hippie phase" a relative long dress. the WW in her skimpy swimsuit is more since the 90's (good god, even this is 30 years ago. where's the time :) )
A minor correction to the Power Girl 'keyhole': It's actually the result of two separate issues. The cutout in the chest started because Gerry Conway, so he said, couldn't think of an appropriate chest symbol -- a very popular item for hero costumes at the time -- that didn't look stupid. So, since the character is invulnerable anyway, he just left it open. It wouldn't have become so noticeable, but Wally Wood drew her. Like many of the female characters on superteams at the time, she tended to get ignored by the male writers and editors. So, says writer Jimmy Palmiotti, he decided to start drawing Power Girl's bust bigger with every issue until someone noticed. Palmiotti recalls it taking seven or eight issues...
@@manoftruth0935 Kinda like what happened to Captain Marvel. Lets be honest, 80% of Captain Marvel's appeal was that she looked good. In the more recent years she lost about 80% of her appeal :p
@@astrotrain85tr70 yeah, I was speculating that they are throwing lame reasons at lame people complaining to distract them for a few minutes. If they come again they'll create a new lame reason and the cycle repeats ;)
Solution for the Power Girl bit: it distracts at least a great deal of regular human criminals and potentially a lot of super powered ones too. Just make that the reason. Its weak but its a hell of a lot better than "I dunno what I stand for".
Did a japanese manga artist actually say that ? Feels like something the author of Chainsaw Man could say, but the only japanese I remember saying that is actually Yoko Taro, the game director of the NieR/Drakengard saga
I would’ve respected the writers so much more if they just said powergirl likes to show off her assets. I mean that’s a completely understandable explanation
Not neccisarily. It could literally be an explanation. If the writer was a marine for example and wanted to make the character be designed in a way that shows he was a marine, then it's not an excuse it's added character. Or for a better example, if the writer was a huuuuge fan of taco bell, they could do purple and blue coloring and make the character love tacos. And there's nothing wrong with that. Just gotta be careful with how you do it and what the thing is that might need explained.
@@adameins5622 those are both things happening during or even before the design. What I am talking about is if the character was made purple and blue for arbitrary, or quickly no longer acceptable reasons; so they made up the Taco Bell Marine thing years after the fact.
@Mal Mort objectifying a human or human character for any reason is wrong cmon now i know you didn’t just type that my guy😂, the first part i understand though but instead of objectifying we should just appreciate their physique as a bonus to what else their character has to bring
@@crazytransgirl guys let's give it up for our very own woman of strength, hopefully I'll be able to make a comment about you when you are a power girl
One embarrassing moment was she-hulk sleeping with juggernaut and how they explain later how that was like another she hulk from like a different universe or something.
The only version of the Hawks that has ever worked was the Thanagarians. We all WANT the Egyptian / reincarnated version to work, but at the end of the day, a guy who can fly and uses Medieval weapons is of limited use. My girlfriend accidentally came up with a good idea, though. I was explaining the Hawk reincarnation cycle to her, and she said "oh, so they're phoenixes". Now THAT makes a lot of sense, and it flips their grim cycle of death into a cycle of rebirth (which is more or less the same thing but more optimistic). Also, what sorts of magic come from being a creature that is perpetually reborn in fire? If I were a writer, I'd try to do something with that. Sure beats Hawkman hitting things with a club.
I think comic creators should just take a page out of Yoko Taro and the rest of the team behind Nier Automata Interviewer: So why are the female characters in Nier Automata designed like that Yoko Taro: Gonna be honest, I just like girls
Confession: I came here for Power Girl. Defense: I wanted to see how What Culture would explain her boob window even though I already knew why it's there. Wally Wood drew her that way because he wanted to see how much he could get away with... a lot apparently. Now, there's definitely a story including ripping off the S, but that's isn't from her first appearance; the artwork alone should tell you that it arrives long after her character was designed, and thus isn't the story to be re-explained by her inability to design a logo. The original origin stems from a humorous artist and that alone.
I agree that if a character is designed to look sexy, just own it instead of assuming the readers are stupid to believe boob windows mean anything. Characters like Black Canary have sexy outfits but it doesn't diminish how badass she is.
But, homely wah-men can’t stand that a fictional character is hotter than they will ever be, so the character must wear a large, baggy mumu and not be pretty at all to destroy the e-e-evil male gaze!!!
The reason why there is a hole in the chest for the costume is because: *Shows every fighting clip, Which one of these people did not get hit by the chest, The first thing they punch is the chest.
*7:24* What you're all here for. Let's be honest, the thumbnail brought you here and you don't give a *_crap_* about what the other _"Embarrassing Comic Book Moments"_ are. 😂😂😂
PG actually shows less..a lot less..then Diana and a lot of other heroines. Her open window shows less the Ww's low riding crop top. And dont even get me started on Lady Death. Why the concern on Pg?
Honestly, I think her boob window draws questions is because of the rest of the outfit. More often than not, it has full sleeves and a collar. We therefore expect to see a complete top. Thus a boob window brakes expectation. This draws attention, and that draws questions. I expect that if she had no collar, she'd get no more or less attention than any other scantily clad female character. People are weird like that.
@@garyclark3843 Isn't that kind of the point for some actual irl dresses, like covered up to the collar but the entire back is exposed. It works at parties so why can't it work in a costume.
I still love the story of why Power Girl even needed that boob-window to begin with: Originally, she was just "Earth Two Supergirl" practically indistinguishable except for the white costume with blue gloves. The book she was being published in, Justice Society of America, was being pencilled by former Mad Comics (from the EC years before it became a Magazine to get around the comic code) artist, Wally Wood. He REALLY did not like the work he was being forced to do by contract and so, in a fit of pique, he began increasing Power Girl's bust every issue until someone mentioned it. I think it took... a year or more of issues before someone at DC mentioned noticing it?
Well, he got HIS wish. But let's be honest. He probably would have gotten it no matter what the original design was. I mean, look at Velma from Scooby Doo. She's a more popular porn character than Daphne is. Not what one might have expected from their original character designs.
I remember a power girl comic I saw once, on the cover she was fighting another super powered female. I laughed and said it would end in a tie because their breast were the same size...lol...after flipping to the end I was right...lmao.
One small correction as far as Ditko's comic references to Rand's Objectivism. Not long after leaving DC & The Question, he created the character Mr. A. He's made many appearances in indie comix & all his stories are based on Objectivism. Two great (to me) call outs in every Mr. A strip were "A=A" & A's calling card - a card w/black on one side & white on the other. This references Rand's ideas that things can be seen only as black or white - no grays. Hell, Allen Moore riffed off both Question/Mr. A & Objectivism in "Watchmen" in the form of Rorschach.
I agree, the events leading up to Hal 'snapping' was poignant and then Johns brings in that 'possesed' crap like he did for Kyle when he made it so he was possessed when he was Ion and 'Ion' was the physical embodiment of 'will power' that and the whole "Skittles Corps' is just ridic.
Writers always use the whole they were under mind control by someone or something else as a excuse for everytime a hero does something that a hero should never do. It like bad writing covering up for bad writing. It writers would stop turing heroes into villains this crap would not happened.
Lillie: “I mean... There nothing embarrassing about the window. t’s strength and independence!” *Lillie wears the Powergirl costume* “Also I don’t know if should alter it and what should I put as my logo...”
I think a Spider-Girl who began as an actual spider would be a GREAT character for an Into the Spiderverse movie! Especially if she was self-conscious and defensive about her 2 extra sets of arms and tended to pick fights over imagined insults ("What do you mean, lend you a hand?!") so teaming up with her was almost more trouble than it was worth...
Spider-man was plotted and drawn by Ditko, but the dialogue was ALL Stan Lee. As a matter of fact, Stan is on record saying that Ditko would "write" dialogue for Spidey, which he would discard and write his own version. Spidey said NOTHING that Stan did not approve of, while he was the scripter of the book.
I feel like a lot of these issues stem from having too many hands in the pot. You got someone telling the chefs (writers) to make a soup to serve to the diners, and you have over 20 chefs all trying to make the soup they want to make in the same pot. They see some of what the other chefs are adding and go to add their own ingredients without checking what is already in there. The end product will be a soup-like product but generally not a soup that your average person will swallow.
7:24 I like what he had to say about the PowerGirl retcon! Just own the fact that the comics are appealing to the male gaze... Rather than some half-baked philosophy.
The greatest & most interesting Green Lantern: Alan Scott. Especially Kingdom Come Alan Scott. Greatest Green Lantetn Corp. member: Entire Corp.: Kilowag From Earth: John Stewart Most interesting Green Lantern Corp. member Entire Corp.: Mogo From Earth: Kyle Raynor My favorite Green Lantern: Guy Gardner
You got the reason for the Bob window wrong according to the Kara of earth two,you were partially right and partially wrong,what you said was correct asking far as how she first ended up with a boob window, but in the end after years of having said window in her costume she couldn't think of an insignia that she was satisfied with and then after having her pre-crisis origin restored, she briefly considered adopting the sigil of the house of El ,but before she could adopt it kara-Zor-El of earth one was brought back and she decided to wear it so Powergirl decided against wearing the aforementioned sigil to avoid making it any harder on Supergirl as far as establishing her own identity than it already was for her due to having just started out on her heroes journey, and it then the window itself essentially became her own personal sigil after she'd had it for so long that that the public got used to it to the point that she no longer wanted to change it last ther ever be any confusion among the public regarding her superhero identity!!!
@@Friendly_Neighborhood_Edgelord but they kept the fact that he punched Nazis. It's weird that they'd retcon that to appease commies. Sounds like an agenda to me.
I love how official captain America lore is that a random guy made a captain America shield of decent quality along with a costume and trained physically and mentally to copy his style of combat and speech all just to fight communists while looking like his favorite super hero
I think I read in a comic somewhere that Powergirl said it was to distract her foes and give her an 'edge'. Not much better than what it's said on this video, but not worse either…
Regarding Hal Jordan, I'm kind of split. On one hand I love Geoff Johns' run. It's what made me a GL fan. I really like the emotional spectrum, flawed as it is (will isn't an emotion for a start). At the same time I don't really think Hal needed resurrecting, and it has led to arguably more interesting characters being sidelined. While on the subject, I also think Barry Allen should have stayed dead as Wally West had eclipsed him as the Flash both in terms of power, accomplishments and quality of writing. Unlike GL his resurrection didn't lead to a stand out run or event (Flashpoint being a bit meh and farting out the New 52). That said Joshua Williamson's run certainly had it's moments and led to superb climax with Finishing Line. Marvel and DC are always too eager to revert their characters to a specific default setting, wiping out their character/timeline progression.
The reason for powergirls window and bust size. There was an artist that thought no was paying attention to or giving him enough credit. So he decided he would increase the bust size per cup size for each issue until someone noticed.
Doctor Doom letting Arcade strike a match against his armor in an issue of Uncanny X-Men (not sure of the number, it was during the Claremont/Byrne run). In a later issue of Fantastic Four written by John Byrne, it's revealed that Arcade had struck a match on a Doom-Bot, and the real Doom had the robot destroyed for allowing Arcade to disrespect him. The infamous Avengers #200 in which Carol Danvers was brainwashed into falling in love with Marcus. A few years in Avengers Annual #10, Chris Claremont wrote a scene where Carol angrily told the rest of the Avengers to go to Hell for not stopping her in the first place. Amazing Spider-Man: the reveal that Ned Leeds was the Hobgoblin. Dave Micheline wrote that ending after Roger Stern left the book. It was so sloppily done that about 10 years after that Stern came back to Marvel and wrote a 3-issue mini, "The Hobgoblin Lives", which straightened out who was really the Hobgoblin.
Doubt they ever saw the need to retcon it, but I can remember a few panels in Daredevil where he delivers severe snark at a beggar, who protests that he's just trying to get by, appearing to irk the Man Without Fear even further. Not sure who was writing it, but it felt like an attempt to illustrate how DD's sense of justice could be a little inflexible at times.
Since it was the Text & thumbnail that got my attn. for this video, I was Honestly thinking that the reason for Power Girl's "B00b Window" was because that's how she best absorbs Solar energy to get to her strongest.
The reason why Power Girls window was there is because the original writer didn't feel as if he was being taken seriously so he progressively made her bosom bigger and having the window.
The reason for the “boob window” is pretty simple, to quote a certain scene in Simpsons: “The boys needed to breathe!” “Wouldn’t they be girls?” *”Mine are boys!”* 😂😂😂 (C’mon folks, if she’s really meant to be an alternate dimension’s Supergirl then where’s she get all the extra padding?)
@@LadyLeomon exactly, race is significantly more permanent than clothing so shouldn't be hard to accept that this Supergirl is wearing a different outfit, one that just happens to have a boob window.
@@LadyLeomon It really isn't when you are talking about alternate reality. There are realities where Batman's entire ideology is different. It's all fair play when it comes to those things
Spiderman #38 is the very first thing I ever read, and I remember the moment to this day. I was five years old, sitting in the corner, pretending to read because all the attention I got. Halfway through the book, I realized I was not pretending, I was actually reading.
I like that first reason for Power Girl. It sounds like she didn’t want to be seen as just Superman’s cousin. She wouldn’t be able to introduce herself normally if she kept the S shield. As a PG fan I don’t like that’s she defined by her E cup rack. She’s way more than that.
No, they just made a weird episode to reference Hawkman and the reincarnation cycle where some random guy named Carter Hall got confused by some alien technology he found. "Justice League" and the "Unlimited" sequel fully went with the Thanagarian origin for Hawkgirl.
TBF, my favorite part of the Zur-en-ah persona is that in later media they tie it into Batman's backstory because his father says that they'd probably "throw Zorro in Arkham"
"Different Artists and Writers Always come on to books to keep things feeling fresh and to clean up any potential messes made by previous creative team" … HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Writers and Artists come on to books to and clean up said messes, and end up messing up even worse, creating the need for huge retcons and reboots and crisis events which make a clean sweep on things… until someone comes along and messes up everything once again However, despite this, we still love comics
@@pietrocatalano4285 in that case do tell me what's good that's coming from the comics industry cuz all I see is virtue signalling garbage that no one likes.
@@danialyousaf6456 For Marvel, the King in Black run, very nice storyline, has actual buildup, the character isn't entirely new to us, and there's some very good moments in it. For DC, well, I can't really say much, since they just had their new reboot and I haven't seen all of it (I know the ending and the last parts of the battle, but I haven't read the issues before that, although I still do have a pretty clear idea of what's going on thanks to some TH-camrs covering that series).
The excuse for Power Girl’s exposed cleavage is totally lame. Everyone knows we just want to see her bosom. Out of all the Blue Beetles, Ted Kord is definitely my favorite. I totally dig his costume and gadgets even though he doesn’t have any real superpowers. I still find him to be very entertaining and I’m surprised that the Blue Beetle hasn’t made his live action debut considering there are a bunch of DC television shows. I’d love to see The Ted Kord Blue Beetle team up with Booster Gold in some capacity within the Arrow-verse.
on the other hand it is kind of poetic to give a lame reason for people who lamely complain about sexiness. Kind of like that Simpsons joke "A Wizard did it!'
@@smileyhappyface5864 Never said that they wear revealing clothes all of the time, just that when a real woman does decide to they aren't heavily scrutinized now a days. People complaining about a fictional character's cleavage sounds like something the generation living in the 40's/50's would do.
Women everywhere: My eyes are up here.
Power girl: My eyes shoot lasers, best stick to the window.
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I heard the origin of Power Girl's chest was an artist named Wally Woods who was known for dirty comic art (google his Disneyland art) and did some temp work for DC back in the day. The story goes that he thought the publishers were not paying attention to anything he was doing so as a joke he started making Power Girl's chest bigger and bigger in each episode to see how long it would take for the publisher to notice and apparently it took quite a while.
I heard this too...
Character growth.
Heard that too
It's one hundred percent true. I came here to see if What Culture--which is always wrong--would get this and they didn't even know this pretty famous story.
I would have given them slack if they explained the logo stories without acting like they knew where it came from originally, but since they acted like they knew where it came from from the get-go--and didn't include this--I knew it was just another case of them getting something else wrong.
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Imagine if the power girl explanation was her say male villains get distracted by it giving her a big advantage in a fight. Talk about owning it.
There was a point she did say that, but I don't remember where.
@@Mhoramdude Justice League Europe #37 (1992) attempts to explain Power Girl's revealing costume by having Crimson Fox question her about it; she receives the reply that the costume "shows what I am: female, healthy. If men want to degrade themselves by staring, that's their problem, I'm not going to apologize for it.
this one.....
@@ankitc002 *claps*
Same as Mai Shiranui. Follows tales of Kunoichi using their bodies for seduction and distraction en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mai_Shiranui#/media/File:MAI_KOFXIII_stance.gif
This would be better explanation
One of the best moments in dc comics is in kingdom come, when Bruce Wayne asks what cut of chicken the power girl chicken sandwich is, and the waiter says breast
Hahahahaha
Oh God LMFAOO I haven't Kingdom Come in a while does that seriously happen?
And the owner of the restaurant is Booster Gold himself.
Hahahhahha😂🤣
give me a link where it said that
7:24 is when he starts talking about Power Girl
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What??? That’s over half the video😂😂
Big reason is to attract male audiences just like wonder women was in her early days
And still is
@@bgucci3135 especially since WW in her early days had a skirt or shorts. a bit later, in her "hippie phase" a relative long dress. the WW in her skimpy swimsuit is more since the 90's (good god, even this is 30 years ago. where's the time :) )
And some women’s
Incorrect.
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@@momokochama1844 I liked wonder woman’s thong outfit. She had her cheeks hang out before.
A minor correction to the Power Girl 'keyhole': It's actually the result of two separate issues.
The cutout in the chest started because Gerry Conway, so he said, couldn't think of an appropriate chest symbol -- a very popular item for hero costumes at the time -- that didn't look stupid. So, since the character is invulnerable anyway, he just left it open.
It wouldn't have become so noticeable, but Wally Wood drew her. Like many of the female characters on superteams at the time, she tended to get ignored by the male writers and editors. So, says writer Jimmy Palmiotti, he decided to start drawing Power Girl's bust bigger with every issue until someone noticed.
Palmiotti recalls it taking seven or eight issues...
what are the issues in which he drew it the biggest?
@@deadlypyke8051 bro 💀
thats absolutely hilarious
@@dxni3x what? it’s a le-gina-mate question, I mean legitima-
you know what I mean
Actually, there isn`t only ONE reason for Power Girl`s window.
There are TWO big reasons.
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The left reason, and the right reason
Would the Power Girl Retcon be considered a reboob?
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Knowing the SJWs that invaded mainstream comics, they would make her flatter than paper.
@@manoftruth0935 Isn't she that already as a character in a comic?^^
@@jf_kein_k8590 as a character most likely. If they flatten her chest... she’s left by the curb.
@@manoftruth0935 Kinda like what happened to Captain Marvel. Lets be honest, 80% of Captain Marvel's appeal was that she looked good. In the more recent years she lost about 80% of her appeal :p
"Does a boob window really need a reason? "...
This is the kind of thing that...you could have just the character say. I like how it looks or similar....no need to start go in on and on about it.
No, but to the sjw crowd they need a reason.Just like soy boy in video describing how it's "problematic".
@@astrotrain85tr70 yeah, I was speculating that they are throwing lame reasons at lame people complaining to distract them for a few minutes. If they come again they'll create a new lame reason and the cycle repeats ;)
@@astrotrain85tr70 to give then a explanation just make then more entitled and paranoic, they need to be ignored or their madness infects everything.
@@pbonfanti I agree. They crave attention. They're narcissists.
The poor fact is that power girl has that hole in her suit for the same reason you used her as the thumbnail for the video 😂 ‘sex sells’ 👏🏼
Yeah, and he's being disigenous for disparaging it in the video while he uses it to get views.
I just wanted to know WHY.
The title said there was an explanation, so I was curious of what the reason was.
@@astrotrain85tr70 It's not that serious though, calm tf down 😂.
@@eleanormellor7905 same
Can someone tell me a joke
Solution for the Power Girl bit: it distracts at least a great deal of regular human criminals and potentially a lot of super powered ones too.
Just make that the reason. Its weak but its a hell of a lot better than "I dunno what I stand for".
Its not weak, it makes perfect, hilarious sense.
I prefer the ripping off the symbol thing
American comic writers: "The boob window is there for a reason."
Japanese comic writers: "I just like girls."
One is more honest, and thus better.
Exactly.
They are both terrible tho lmao
@@somethingelse4282 then dont do either easy
Did a japanese manga artist actually say that ? Feels like something the author of Chainsaw Man could say, but the only japanese I remember saying that is actually Yoko Taro, the game director of the NieR/Drakengard saga
@@claymore4852 It was Yoko Taro who said that, but it seems to be the mentality of most mangaka.
Making that accursed arachnid Spider-man look like a hero is embarrassing!
I have his pictures
He's a hero you sunnavabitch. Your paper only prints propaganda!!!
@@danignazio3668 how dumb are you
@@Slapstick_Editz Chill it's obviously a joke
@@davidsaminyang818 everyone here is having a joke stop ruining it
I would’ve respected the writers so much more if they just said powergirl likes to show off her assets. I mean that’s a completely understandable explanation
somehow I think you wouldve bitched and moaned if the writers did what you just wrote.reeee mysiginy and stuff like that
If the reason comes after the design: it's an excuse.
Not neccisarily. It could literally be an explanation. If the writer was a marine for example and wanted to make the character be designed in a way that shows he was a marine, then it's not an excuse it's added character. Or for a better example, if the writer was a huuuuge fan of taco bell, they could do purple and blue coloring and make the character love tacos. And there's nothing wrong with that. Just gotta be careful with how you do it and what the thing is that might need explained.
@@adameins5622 those are both things happening during or even before the design.
What I am talking about is if the character was made purple and blue for arbitrary, or quickly no longer acceptable
reasons; so they made up the Taco Bell Marine thing years after the fact.
@Mal Mort that has literally nothing to do with what I am talking about.
@Mal Mort objectifying a human or human character for any reason is wrong cmon now i know you didn’t just type that my guy😂, the first part i understand though but instead of objectifying we should just appreciate their physique as a bonus to what else their character has to bring
First design, then reasons. Its a graphic media, duh.
Be honest you only here to see the reason why power girl has a hole in her costume
Edit : thanks for the 1k likes guys
Of course my friend
Lmao true
I mean, there's a reason they put it as the thumbnail 😂.
im a trans woman who wants to be power girl
@@crazytransgirl guys let's give it up for our very own woman of strength, hopefully I'll be able to make a comment about you when you are a power girl
One embarrassing moment was she-hulk sleeping with juggernaut and how they explain later how that was like another she hulk from like a different universe or something.
That was funny
the explanations are probably so flimsy because they know someone else will eventually come along and retcon everything anyway.
Chuck Austen is such a horrible writer. Dan Slott's 'She-Hulk' was fantastic.
The only version of the Hawks that has ever worked was the Thanagarians. We all WANT the Egyptian / reincarnated version to work, but at the end of the day, a guy who can fly and uses Medieval weapons is of limited use. My girlfriend accidentally came up with a good idea, though. I was explaining the Hawk reincarnation cycle to her, and she said "oh, so they're phoenixes". Now THAT makes a lot of sense, and it flips their grim cycle of death into a cycle of rebirth (which is more or less the same thing but more optimistic). Also, what sorts of magic come from being a creature that is perpetually reborn in fire? If I were a writer, I'd try to do something with that. Sure beats Hawkman hitting things with a club.
Would give Hawkman a cooler power set too, considering what pheonixes are all about.
Your girlfriend is a keeper that’s an excellent idea, I don’t know why DC can’t give them a good origin like that.
I think comic creators should just take a page out of Yoko Taro and the rest of the team behind Nier Automata
Interviewer: So why are the female characters in Nier Automata designed like that
Yoko Taro: Gonna be honest, I just like girls
This is just a lot of japanese creators
@@nathanaelcaballero217 these are just men of culture that are honest and are good dudes
@@crawlingboy Nah they need to do the same to men if they’re gonna do that.
Roses are red, Violets are blue, You liked the thumbnail, and I did too.
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Confession: I came here for Power Girl. Defense: I wanted to see how What Culture would explain her boob window even though I already knew why it's there. Wally Wood drew her that way because he wanted to see how much he could get away with... a lot apparently.
Now, there's definitely a story including ripping off the S, but that's isn't from her first appearance; the artwork alone should tell you that it arrives long after her character was designed, and thus isn't the story to be re-explained by her inability to design a logo. The original origin stems from a humorous artist and that alone.
I agree that if a character is designed to look sexy, just own it instead of assuming the readers are stupid to believe boob windows mean anything. Characters like Black Canary have sexy outfits but it doesn't diminish how badass she is.
so agree
I mean as long as it fits with the characters style and personality it’s fine.
But, homely wah-men can’t stand that a fictional character is hotter than they will ever be, so the character must wear a large, baggy mumu and not be pretty at all to destroy the e-e-evil male gaze!!!
The reason why there is a hole in the chest for the costume is because: *Shows every fighting clip, Which one of these people did not get hit by the chest, The first thing they punch is the chest.
*7:24* What you're all here for.
Let's be honest, the thumbnail brought you here and you don't give a *_crap_* about what the other _"Embarrassing Comic Book Moments"_ are. 😂😂😂
Bro you got no idea how accurate you are,it's sad actually
PG actually shows less..a lot less..then Diana and a lot of other heroines. Her open window shows less the Ww's low riding crop top. And dont even get me started on Lady Death. Why the concern on Pg?
Agreed. And. Aeon Flux.
Because she has a large chest, so puritans zero in on PG as if busty women don't wear similar tops in real life to emphasize their bust.
Honestly, I think her boob window draws questions is because of the rest of the outfit. More often than not, it has full sleeves and a collar. We therefore expect to see a complete top. Thus a boob window brakes expectation. This draws attention, and that draws questions.
I expect that if she had no collar, she'd get no more or less attention than any other scantily clad female character.
People are weird like that.
@@garyclark3843 Isn't that kind of the point for some actual irl dresses, like covered up to the collar but the entire back is exposed. It works at parties so why can't it work in a costume.
Let's not forget about Tigra
Universal adoption of the 'Boob Window' is the only thing which could possibly save DC & Marvel from their own self-inflicted extinction.
I still love the story of why Power Girl even needed that boob-window to begin with: Originally, she was just "Earth Two Supergirl" practically indistinguishable except for the white costume with blue gloves. The book she was being published in, Justice Society of America, was being pencilled by former Mad Comics (from the EC years before it became a Magazine to get around the comic code) artist, Wally Wood. He REALLY did not like the work he was being forced to do by contract and so, in a fit of pique, he began increasing Power Girl's bust every issue until someone mentioned it. I think it took... a year or more of issues before someone at DC mentioned noticing it?
Yoko Sama, creator of Nier: Autonoma once said he designed 2B the way he did because he wanted to see porn of her.
Be more like Yoko Sama. Be honest.
Well, he got HIS wish. But let's be honest. He probably would have gotten it no matter what the original design was. I mean, look at Velma from Scooby Doo. She's a more popular porn character than Daphne is. Not what one might have expected from their original character designs.
It's Nier : Autopilot jeez, atleast try to pronounce the name's correctly
@@brezzendorf *at least
@@TornadoWhirl33
Lmaoooo
No be less like him.
I remember a power girl comic I saw once, on the cover she was fighting another super powered female. I laughed and said it would end in a tie because their breast were the same size...lol...after flipping to the end I was right...lmao.
"Boob window" cause dudes consume comics. Rocket science
One small correction as far as Ditko's comic references to Rand's Objectivism. Not long after leaving DC & The Question, he created the character Mr. A. He's made many appearances in indie comix & all his stories are based on Objectivism.
Two great (to me) call outs in every Mr. A strip were "A=A" & A's calling card - a card w/black on one side & white on the other. This references Rand's ideas that things can be seen only as black or white - no grays. Hell, Allen Moore riffed off both Question/Mr. A & Objectivism in "Watchmen" in the form of Rorschach.
I always figured she was solar powered like her cousin and it gives her a wide area for her to get sun directly into her skin
Thar would be an odd tan
Having Half Jordan under the influence of Parallax was such a trope cop out.
I agree, the events leading up to Hal 'snapping' was poignant and then Johns brings in that 'possesed' crap like he did for Kyle when he made it so he was possessed when he was Ion and 'Ion' was the physical embodiment of 'will power' that and the whole "Skittles Corps' is just ridic.
Writers always use the whole they were under mind control by someone or something else as a excuse for everytime a hero does something that a hero should never do. It like bad writing covering up for bad writing. It writers would stop turing heroes into villains this crap would not happened.
Lillie: “I mean... There nothing embarrassing about the window. t’s strength and independence!”
*Lillie wears the Powergirl costume*
“Also I don’t know if should alter it and what should I put as my logo...”
“Should I put my mother gem? Aether foundation logo? A flower, My own if I have one...”
WTF
Cleavage as a symbol of power kinda works. :-P
@@Friendly_Neighborhood_Edgelord “Sorry if don’t have a logo...”
@@alm2187 Lillie: “That’s true... Maybe I can make it mine? Lol.”
Wait! So Spider-Woman had the same origins of Spider-Ham?
And, the black spider-man has some powers that she had
I think a Spider-Girl who began as an actual spider would be a GREAT character for an Into the Spiderverse movie! Especially if she was self-conscious and defensive about her 2 extra sets of arms and tended to pick fights over imagined insults ("What do you mean, lend you a hand?!") so teaming up with her was almost more trouble than it was worth...
Spider-man was plotted and drawn by Ditko, but the dialogue was ALL Stan Lee. As a matter of fact, Stan is on record saying that Ditko would "write" dialogue for Spidey, which he would discard and write his own version. Spidey said NOTHING that Stan did not approve of, while he was the scripter of the book.
I feel like a lot of these issues stem from having too many hands in the pot. You got someone telling the chefs (writers) to make a soup to serve to the diners, and you have over 20 chefs all trying to make the soup they want to make in the same pot. They see some of what the other chefs are adding and go to add their own ingredients without checking what is already in there. The end product will be a soup-like product but generally not a soup that your average person will swallow.
7:24 I like what he had to say about the PowerGirl retcon! Just own the fact that the comics are appealing to the male gaze... Rather than some half-baked philosophy.
And lesbian gaze.
The male gaze? I really hope you used that term ironically
@@richspeck8932 Enjoyers of tiddies
@@richspeck8932 No they’re right
“Hal Jordan is not the most interesting Green Lantern”
Piss off, he’s the best Green Lantern
hell yeah
John Stewart is the best actually.
ehhm! John Stewart. he has the strongest and best constructs made by the ring.
@@nicholastafufo7514 John Stewart is 3rd after Jess Cruz for me.
The greatest & most interesting
Green Lantern: Alan Scott.
Especially Kingdom Come Alan Scott.
Greatest Green Lantetn Corp. member:
Entire Corp.: Kilowag
From Earth: John Stewart
Most interesting Green Lantern Corp. member
Entire Corp.: Mogo
From Earth: Kyle Raynor
My favorite Green Lantern: Guy Gardner
I wouldn’t say whats on the thumbnail is embarrassing.
Yeah TBH it's a pretty generic image of her it would embarrassing if it was disgusting, distracting or if it took away from her character
@@Friendly_Neighborhood_Edgelord no not really, u are only making it so.
U guys act like my grandma lmao
You got the reason for the Bob window wrong according to the Kara of earth two,you were partially right and partially wrong,what you said was correct asking far as how she first ended up with a boob window, but in the end after years of having said window in her costume she couldn't think of an insignia that she was satisfied with and then after having her pre-crisis origin restored, she briefly considered adopting the sigil of the house of El ,but before she could adopt it kara-Zor-El of earth one was brought back and she decided to wear it so Powergirl decided against wearing the aforementioned sigil to avoid making it any harder on Supergirl as far as establishing her own identity than it already was for her due to having just started out on her heroes journey, and it then the window itself essentially became her own personal sigil after she'd had it for so long that that the public got used to it to the point that she no longer wanted to change it last ther ever be any confusion among the public regarding her superhero identity!!!
It’s strategic. As power girl says “If their looking at your chest they’re not watching your fists.”
What’s wrong with “comie smasher”?😂
Yeah, I don’t get it either. What’s the problem with punching nazis and commies?
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 It might offend Nazi's and Commies the people who would never read a Captain America comic
@@Friendly_Neighborhood_Edgelord but they kept the fact that he punched Nazis. It's weird that they'd retcon that to appease commies. Sounds like an agenda to me.
@@Friendly_Neighborhood_Edgelord True. They're mostly writing them these days.
Exactly my question too. Nazis and Commies both suck. Nothing embarrassing about having a legacy of punching Nazis and smashing Commies. Weird retcon.
wait i actually like that spiderwoman came from an actual spider, that's sick
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lol
👌
Why?
I love how official captain America lore is that a random guy made a captain America shield of decent quality along with a costume and trained physically and mentally to copy his style of combat and speech all just to fight communists while looking like his favorite super hero
The ultimate cosplayer.
And the reason they got bigger over time is because they wanted to see how long they could get away with making them bigger before it was noticed
no, this is not true. th-cam.com/video/4W4_TgSnU_M/w-d-xo.html
“Casually Comics” hath let me down.
I think I read in a comic somewhere that Powergirl said it was to distract her foes and give her an 'edge'. Not much better than what it's said on this video, but not worse either…
Well it is a darn good explanation and it works too.
I mean...it could work. But let's just hope her villains aren't all gay men and straight women
@@DJPrimeAmvs yea certainly
@@DJPrimeAmvs even if they were this could be distracting for a number of other reasons though lol
@@caincha true, if I was a woman I'd probably get jealous of Kara lol
Regarding Hal Jordan, I'm kind of split. On one hand I love Geoff Johns' run. It's what made me a GL fan. I really like the emotional spectrum, flawed as it is (will isn't an emotion for a start). At the same time I don't really think Hal needed resurrecting, and it has led to arguably more interesting characters being sidelined.
While on the subject, I also think Barry Allen should have stayed dead as Wally West had eclipsed him as the Flash both in terms of power, accomplishments and quality of writing. Unlike GL his resurrection didn't lead to a stand out run or event (Flashpoint being a bit meh and farting out the New 52). That said Joshua Williamson's run certainly had it's moments and led to superb climax with Finishing Line.
Marvel and DC are always too eager to revert their characters to a specific default setting, wiping out their character/timeline progression.
Marketing, sex appeal can sell almost anything.
@Teresa Gonzalez LMAO! Why would you want to fix it.
@Teresa Gonzalez I mean why would you? I can go outside and see women wearing stuff just as slutty. Art imitates life yu know.
Why do you insult my boy Hal like that with such a bold faced lie.
The narrator is just jealous because he is a frail boy with a weak chin and he desperately wants to be Hal Jordan.
The reason for powergirls window and bust size. There was an artist that thought no was paying attention to or giving him enough credit. So he decided he would increase the bust size per cup size for each issue until someone noticed.
Never heard of Spider-Women till now..
Doctor Doom letting Arcade strike a match against his armor in an issue of Uncanny X-Men (not sure of the number, it was during the Claremont/Byrne run). In a later issue of Fantastic Four written by John Byrne, it's revealed that Arcade had struck a match on a Doom-Bot, and the real Doom had the robot destroyed for allowing Arcade to disrespect him.
The infamous Avengers #200 in which Carol Danvers was brainwashed into falling in love with Marcus. A few years in Avengers Annual #10, Chris Claremont wrote a scene where Carol angrily told the rest of the Avengers to go to Hell for not stopping her in the first place.
Amazing Spider-Man: the reveal that Ned Leeds was the Hobgoblin. Dave Micheline wrote that ending after Roger Stern left the book. It was so sloppily done that about 10 years after that Stern came back to Marvel and wrote a 3-issue mini, "The Hobgoblin Lives", which straightened out who was really the Hobgoblin.
Am I the only one that found Wonder Woman's pants supersuit very attractive?
Wonder Woman and "pantsuit" should never be attached in the same sentence.
Yea maybe u are
Doubt they ever saw the need to retcon it, but I can remember a few panels in Daredevil where he delivers severe snark at a beggar, who protests that he's just trying to get by, appearing to irk the Man Without Fear even further. Not sure who was writing it, but it felt like an attempt to illustrate how DD's sense of justice could be a little inflexible at times.
Since it was the Text & thumbnail that got my attn. for this video, I was Honestly thinking that the reason for Power Girl's "B00b Window" was because that's how she best absorbs Solar energy to get to her strongest.
You know the Parallax armor for Hal Jordan could be re used as Green Lantern's upgrade armor form
"Casually Comics" has a great video on Power Girl!
Sasha is awesome. Super legit 👍
I love the Death in the family movie interpretation of Zur en Arrh, imo it’s one of the best.
The reason why Power Girls window was there is because the original writer didn't feel as if he was being taken seriously so he progressively made her bosom bigger and having the window.
“ the following moment weren’t only SCHHHHTEWWWPID…” my favorite line
7:28 is what your after
U are a hero
Thanks
Oh yes...
Stephanie Brown's Stint as Batgirl was probably some of the best writing DC was doing at the time.
While I agree that Stephanie Brown is getting shafted by DC and not in the fun way, Tim Drake is also constantly shit on by them too.
Cough Wally cough
Lol @ not in the fun way
@@iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774 him too
ah, yes.
THE BOOB WINDOW.
"Well, you see, that's how her power works. It requires open skin."
The reason for the “boob window” is pretty simple, to quote a certain scene in Simpsons:
“The boys needed to breathe!”
“Wouldn’t they be girls?”
*”Mine are boys!”* 😂😂😂
(C’mon folks, if she’s really meant to be an alternate dimension’s Supergirl then where’s she get all the extra padding?)
What??
You do know that there are alternate universe Supermen that are black right? Alternate universe doesn't mean she has to look exactly the same
Rich Speck change of outfit is a bit different than change of race, just saying!
@@LadyLeomon exactly, race is significantly more permanent than clothing so shouldn't be hard to accept that this Supergirl is wearing a different outfit, one that just happens to have a boob window.
@@LadyLeomon It really isn't when you are talking about alternate reality. There are realities where Batman's entire ideology is different. It's all fair play when it comes to those things
Spiderman #38 is the very first thing I ever read, and I remember the moment to this day. I was five years old, sitting in the corner, pretending to read because all the attention I got. Halfway through the book, I realized I was not pretending, I was actually reading.
In injustice 2 when you put that outfit on super girl I’m pretty sure her chest get bigger
Well, that makes a lot of sense because whenever a character gets a boob window, the chest should automatically increase in size. It's just a given.
I like that first reason for Power Girl. It sounds like she didn’t want to be seen as just Superman’s cousin. She wouldn’t be able to introduce herself normally if she kept the S shield. As a PG fan I don’t like that’s she defined by her E cup rack. She’s way more than that.
It should be slightly redesigned to be the perfect shape of the "S" shield, but removed. That would make it perfect.
@@Paulafan5 I just wish she got a new solo book 😔
Isn’t the reincarnation cycle of the hawks explained in Justice League Unlimited?
No, they just made a weird episode to reference Hawkman and the reincarnation cycle where some random guy named Carter Hall got confused by some alien technology he found. "Justice League" and the "Unlimited" sequel fully went with the Thanagarian origin for Hawkgirl.
@@Compucles Thanagarian origin is a lot better than reincarnation.
TBF, my favorite part of the Zur-en-ah persona is that in later media they tie it into Batman's backstory because his father says that they'd probably "throw Zorro in Arkham"
I have to admit Power girl was my introduction into puberty lol
The reason powergirl has that window is empowerment....you got em...flaunt those puppies
No. No, see, it's *ONLY* "empowerment" if men find it _repulsive._ If we find it _attractive,_ it's _"objectification."_
"Different Artists and Writers Always come on to books to keep things feeling fresh and to clean up any potential messes made by previous creative team"
…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Writers and Artists come on to books to and clean up said messes, and end up messing up even worse, creating the need for huge retcons and reboots and crisis events which make a clean sweep on things… until someone comes along and messes up everything once again
However, despite this, we still love comics
After seeing the garbage that marvel and DC are producing, do you still love comics ?
@@danialyousaf6456 It isn't all garbage. We just choose the good things that we find amidst the trash.
@@pietrocatalano4285 in that case do tell me what's good that's coming from the comics industry cuz all I see is virtue signalling garbage that no one likes.
@@danialyousaf6456 For Marvel, the King in Black run, very nice storyline, has actual buildup, the character isn't entirely new to us, and there's some very good moments in it. For DC, well, I can't really say much, since they just had their new reboot and I haven't seen all of it (I know the ending and the last parts of the battle, but I haven't read the issues before that, although I still do have a pretty clear idea of what's going on thanks to some TH-camrs covering that series).
@@pietrocatalano4285 interesting. I guess there is still some good left after all. Thanks :)
I wrote my final paper for a detective fiction course at uni on War Games and how it absolutely shafted Stephanie Brown.
Hope you passed it!
That thumbnail tho😂
For real
I use to love reading dc comics but man the way they restart there series and continually retcon things drives me up the wall.
Did Morrison (or anyone) ever explain the scary parasite on Bat-Mite's back?
I love how the title's artist hid it in plain sight in so many panels.
I like how the power girl segment is the most replayed
Poor poor Petey...he can never catch a break from the writer's
*writers
In the words of deadpool..we all know there's an emergency release on every jet pack rofl...poor Hawkeye
That time Kara kissed Kal deeply on the lips.
I did not know Power Girl is Kara Zor-L.
Thanks WhatCulture Comics. :)
As a seasoned piece of weeb trash, I've seen much more revealing outfits than supergirls. Kill La Kill, anyone?
i see you are a man of amazing culture
satsuki and ryuko have amazing clothing
@@crawlingboy and I see you are a man of magnificent culture.
Hawkman's reincarnation story was also brought into picture in Justice League Unlimited
This video should be called "And then Geoff Johns came along..."
The Batman of Zur-En-Arrh was a fail safe personality, to take over if he became mind controlled. He seriously plans for everything...
wow. brilliant!
Dat's da perfect explanation as to y PowerGirl has no shield 🤤🤤🤤
Now Public Enemies(Cartoon Movies) make perfect sense.💪🤤🤤🤤
I got a milk ad before this
The excuse for Power Girl’s exposed cleavage is totally lame. Everyone knows we just want to see her bosom. Out of all the Blue Beetles, Ted Kord is definitely my favorite. I totally dig his costume and gadgets even though he doesn’t have any real superpowers. I still find him to be very entertaining and I’m surprised that the Blue Beetle hasn’t made his live action debut considering there are a bunch of DC television shows. I’d love to see The Ted Kord Blue Beetle team up with Booster Gold in some capacity within the Arrow-verse.
on the other hand it is kind of poetic to give a lame reason for people who lamely complain about sexiness. Kind of like that Simpsons joke "A Wizard did it!'
Ray Palmer in Legends of Tomorrow was meant to be Ted I read somewhere but for some reason they couldn't use him
I actually like the Emerald Twilight storyline. Half Jordan Parallax is one of the most interesting versions of the character in my opinion.
So drawing Power Girl that way is ... an act of feminism?
Hey!!! The Power girl window is suppose to be a round window hence the "Power Symbol". ( I )
I don't feel like most of these are "had to explain" nor were they embarrassing.
its a false narrative pushed by the feminists and soy libtards that made this video
@@zobeklordofthedead3669 He lost me at “male gaze”
Thumbnail:
Okay I want to know!
Does this REALLY need an explanation? Why do normal women wear clothing with exposed cleavage? Maybe power just likes the look. 🤷🏾♂️
Normal women DON'T dress with revealing clothing everywhere they go.
@@smileyhappyface5864
Never said that they wear revealing clothes all of the time, just that when a real woman does decide to they aren't heavily scrutinized now a days.
People complaining about a fictional character's cleavage sounds like something the generation living in the 40's/50's would do.
@@jzi4 I almost wanted to say that's exactly the time period this character is from. Either way, sorry for the misunderstanding.
no one ever brings up wonder woman's orignel weakness