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- VICE News embedded with the Afghan National Army (ANA) in Kandahar for their first "fighting season" without the Americans.
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In Afghanistan, springtime starts with a bang as it marks the start of the "fighting season" between the Taliban and Afghan security forces. For the first time in 12 years, the Afghan National Army (ANA) has to operate without their American allies as US troops withdraw. VICE News' Gelareh Kiazand travels to Kandahar to see how the ANA, the police, and ordinary Afghans are dealing with this turning point in a very long war.
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So what how Iran well fight America? Remember Iranians were scared of Saddam Hussein
The French are relieved to know that a new army has taken the record for fastest surrender and collapse of a government in modern history.
God, the French Army in 1940 are like super soldiers compared to these guys
Lmao. That's hilarious, dude
That doesn’t even make sense. The French and British fought like absolute hell for six weeks and were completely outmatched by German military superiority. And you’re forgetting that literally most of Europe surrendered to the Germans just as fast if not faster. Denmark surrendered in a few hours. And if the British hadn’t been surrounded by water, they would have been rolled over too.
@@shimonelbaz875 It's an old joke lol. The US has historically messed with our French counterparts. Not meant to be taken literally lol.
Lol
I toasted a Pop-Tart and when I came back, the Taliban was in charge.
🤣😂🙏👏👌
@Levi Ulysses hahaha👏
The popcorn I made for this debacle hasn't even popped yet.
Who’s watching this again after the Afghan government collapsed?
me
@@skihen6691 me too
Yep....lol
🙋
Me, lol
Imagine training and funding an army for 20 years only for it to collapse in a couple of weeks by men in turbins and ak-47 from the 1980s.
And barefoot, wearing over-sized penny loafer shoes.
Imagine believing that rubbish
@dingle Berry he’s probably a conspiracy theorist
Couple of weeks*
@@sneckotheveggieavenger9380 oh yh lol even worse Jesus Christ.
Coming from the future 7 years later in year 2021: these guys in the army are an absolute joke.
They have already surrendered lmao 😂😂😂
I still can believe they folded in a week like damn. That not even hyperbole, it took literally a week for the whole army to collapse. Damn like how do you loose almost every city to guys in slippers riding motorcycles in a week.
@@donaldhassell6430 That what religion do specially islam they literally want to die and wanna go in jannah heaven to do sex with virgin girls have champaign and wine in hot tub and list goes on that iam not saying islam said in Quran
@@donaldhassell6430 Talibans dont have anything to lose they just wanna die or win no other option left for them
There not about the fighting. There all about those American dollars 💵
This will be a historic video.
This will be a historic comment
The migration to old ANA videos has begun
That artillery scene was funny when they were trying to figure out how to fire the cannon. "You're embarrassing us, you idiot!"
it wasnt artillery :/ it was an anti aircraft gun
"Look, I shot the top of that mountain!"
Lol.
They had a stoppage, but didn't really know how to clear it. Pretty shambolic though.
I just thought it was funny how the one guy was saying "you're embarrassing us, you idiot" etc. I wasn't trying to say they're dumb. Obviously, I'm no expert either. I didn't even know the difference between AA and artry.
JC545X39 Well, it usually just depends where you point it and how you set the fuzes. AAA is anti aircraft artillery, usually used with timed charges so the shells explode in the air at a set range (flak) or by proximity. Modern point defences are usually not directly controlled by a gunner, because computers do a better job of tracking fast targets like jets and missiles, but then much of the world can't afford that kind of tech so you get older AAA guns like this, which are just as effective at blasting things on the ground.
Love the intro:
"Welcome to Kandahar. May God protect you."
*Wides eyes*
We use that instead of saying goodbye
that flight attended was a cutie
@@abdi8104
We don't even want it coz we are not in that position, we want them to be independent this way they can be like a barrier between Pakistan and us, so Pakistan won't be able to interfere in our affairs, like change our regime according to their interest.
We say god protect you but it mean's good bye
L lllllppl
To be fair, the 205th Corps featured in this video defended Kandahar to literally the last bullet - most of the soldiers didn’t run, but the Corps ability to carry on was systemically ground down after months of non-stop, heavy fighting with the Taliban.
They received minimal support from the Afghan government - no ammunition or equipment resupply, token reinforcements and they were starving by the end.
Those who weren’t killed surrendered after their commanders negotiated a deal with the Taliban to let their men go home.
People in the comments section of this video should show them some respect.
Brave and determined warriors ultimately betrayed by their own Government.
It’s sad. Really sad.
One of those commandos from that unit used to shoot down russian migs and helicopters. Fucker had photos
Source: my father served and he kept one of the photos
@@moparty4409 holy crap tell me more
That guy gets it.
respect
I know right? It was doomed from the start, they did the best they could with what they had
“My plan is to do my service”
So he deffo goin back to the Taliban🤣
Hahaha u KNOW DAT
Lol u.s and russian soviets, they have already lost a challenge of battle some kind, they lost to the Taliban
@@UmarKhan-gr3fm Well no, the Soviets due to constant resistance withdrew after defeating the Mujahedine and established a government that lasted for 3 years, the USA deafeated the Taliban and withdrew due to constant resistance and their regime lasted three days.
Afghanistan before the Taliban was a beautiful country. The Soviets supported a very cruel regime which is why the people supported the Mujahideen, if they had just let Afghanistan under the king of as a democratie,as they both were, there wouldnt be Islamism there.
@@jjdelft3216 INDEED
“There is no reason to fear 2014.”
“But 2021? Sheeeeeeeit!”
"Our soldiers morale is high"
Comes after reports in 2021 that the President has resigned, and the army lost many through dissertion. :(
Absolute disgrace of an army... and waste of time trying to train them 😂
Obama and Biden completely ignored all the issues Vice exposed to the world. What's happening there now is all their fault they had 8 years and they chose to do nothing.
@@rc59191 And 4 years of Trump. I agree with you that this is a 20 year unwinnable blunder, but keeping the Republican Presidents of Bush and Trump out of your synopsis is *dishonest* ( _Trump negotiated the withdrawal_ , Biden adopted it. This is on Biden since he is in charge but Trump /GOP wanted the same thing and loved the idea. Hell, they wanted out in May 2021).
Bidens lax pullout game from Afghanistan was the wrong move tactic and he will pay at the polls , but this is a shared failure since 2001 between Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden.
It is an American failure.
@@syphe101 yep, pure and simple. As someone who voted for Biden, they ALL deserve blame for this. Dems and Republicans BOTH. My friend DIED in Afghanistan for absolutely fucking nothing. A monumental embarrassment for our nation, and a time we should ABSOLUTELY call *ALL* of our leadership to the carpet for!
😀😀😄 Jokers So called Afghanistan National Army. By the way where are ANA😀
What a meme army.
XD
That "police officer" at 6:02 looks even worse 😂
@@hughmungus1072 I’ve seen videos on the ANP, half of them don’t seem to have duty belts, just attach a dinky holster to their hip and have a cap and uniform on. Lots of out of shape dudes too
If you ever feel useless, remember, there was once a joke army called ANA
You people will never get it, there is a reason why they surrender. It was so the entire country does not get destroyed and civilians don't die.
@@sahilmushwani2406 and you are stupid to think civilians will be safe under Taliban.
@@sahilmushwani2406 the ANA was theoretically even with the taliban, and they had a fucking air force which is a huge advantage, to bad they are corrupt and straight up cowards...
@@sahilmushwani2406 they also got high whenever they fight the Taliban lol
@@sahilmushwani2406 What he said was true ..years of training under the u.s and all the money spent and they run away like cowards..the army of a nation is supposed to defend it's people and prevent the country from getting taken over, what afghan army did was so embarrassing
I Grabbed Something From The Fridge Real Quick And Now There's No Afghanistan Army
What a perfect time for this to be recommended
Anyone watching this after the Afghan national army got vaporized in a week after US left?
meee
I am!
Wym vaporized? Vaporized suggest there has been heavy fighting going on… Those cowards just fled…
Vaporized nah they surrendered
US hasn't left anywhere, thier still in Afghanistan evacuating American civilians and others. I don't understand why everyone seems to think we just picked up our bags and left overnight, it an ongoing process.
GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS have complained to the Talibans to slow down as they can not keep up with their record!
🤣
I love how excited the guy was that he managed to hit the top of mountain lol
You try aiming ZSU 20mm gun. Not easy at all!!!
Great feat in itself...haha
Those 300,000 Afghanistan national army were actually TALIBAN in disguise.
yea, sure.
Word is it was 300,000. That number was put out for money. The real number was way less, cant remember the number but I believe it was around 70,000 or less
This is 16 th August, 2021. Yesterday Afghan National Army surrendered without any resistance and kabul has fall in the hands of Taliban.
you forgot to mention: without a fight
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@dingle Berry Appreciate man. I commented it just for future reference. I think it'll work as a reference for future viewers long after 10-12 years. 😅
We got screwed over by the idiot afghan army, America is week for wanting to be a friendly nation with a friendly military. I bet you these ANA idiots are the ones who turned the American weapons over to the Taliban
But hey, Obama, prince of the Elite, threw down a sick birthday party in the meantime 👩🔧🇺🇲🛠️🇷🇺
I love how the hailstorm breaks all their windows and they just keep driving around blind in a warzone like its no big deal
these troops collapsed like a house of cards
The taliban had to fire zero shots to take over kabul
Because Biden fled
Here we are, They all surrender to Taliban.
They all joined the taliban
If you can't beat em...join em.
watching this in 2020 I can see that everything they say is wrong
Same here.. watching after the reigns are handed over to Taliban
Yup..
Did you notice that a lot of them even a lot in the higher command are a bunch of opiate smoking pedophiles???
Yup
@@dennis1345 n that General Razzaq got killed by the gun men last year. He was the notorious drug criminal involved in many crimes against civilians.
hahahaha
-"hes going to disgrace us"
-"Is the shell stuck?"
-"hes totally embarasing us"
Lol
Afghan Army a historical army that ceased to exist after 2021. 😂
Ghost army 🤣🤣
@@taz09216 not a ghost army. Bunch of traitors
Most of them joined the taliban i reckon
I am so sad to see the disturbance in my neighboring country Afghanistan. We Indians really need to help more to our Afgan brothers and sisters.
Afghans love india
+Nasrollah Bakhshi greetings from India
+Tango Whiskey Not Enough........................
+Gourav Das .... Jai hind
more disturbing images there in Burma why u don't help Burma bro and sis there.....
RIP the guy at 4:12. Couldn't put the gun together in time, and his instructor is like 😆😆
HAHAHAH
Seems after years of training the Afghan national army are performing poorly
It's thoroughly corrupt. The reason they have equipment shortages is because Commanders sell them on the black market and pocket the money.
That Army no longer exists...
1 month later. There is no Afghan army.
@@Seidazdarevic 😂😂😂
Woooow....this is sad.
More than any other observation I've had viewing this video is that the lady journalist wasn't buying the phony bullshit paraded out by the ranking officer in every venue she visited. Vice just doesn't normally look at any situation with the necessary dose of suspicion that I have seen posted online. Well good on Vice, and on the journalist, for looking beyond the first layer.
That being said, the Afghan Nat'l Army clearly remembered nothing about military bearing, command presence, self-discipline, nor any other essential part of being a good member of a team oriented military organization. They are literally doomed to repeat the past in endless cycles of violence and winter weather.
Your words ring true today
This comment aged gracefully
foreshadowing................
32:25 The last dude thought left was behind him. Some how it gets funnier everytime you see it.
Afghan maj general: "Victory is ours" This aged badly.
We invaded the wrong country. Should have reduced Pakistan to stones and glasses instead.
@@richardv9648 Pakistan has nukes and China as an ally
@@faizan2394 cant do sht to the US with those Jukes.
@@richardv9648 The US war-machine lost the war against people who live in caves and mountains. Stop looking for a scapegoat(Pak)
@@faizan2394 Dont under estimate Afghans my friend. Also dont over estimate your Chinese friends. They will not help you when you are fighting India. Chinese have investments in India that are 10 times larger than they have in Pakistan or Sri Lanka.
To all Afghans love from Iraq
Respect from Somalia
وحب من ألمانيا
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from one shitty country to another...
@@evoke2976 *_Pixel INF_* RESPECT COUNTRIES please
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America saves them from the Taliban, given billions in aid, but still complain because they don't have all the luxuries of the American military? That feels a little ungrateful.
and its america who messed up Afghanistan which was the most secular, stable and progressive country in the region, the ungrateful r americans just like in any other foreign policy
Sawan Arora Yeah bro, a country split up among Taliban warlords with essentially zero women's rights is very secular and stable. I hope America never helps with Syria, let them keep begging due to ungrateful people like you.
Sawan Arora OK blame it on America who saved your asses by giving us stingers when Soviets invaded.
Alright If you ally yourself with our enemy that wants to destroy us then do not be surprised if we support rebels in your country that would break such an alliance.
Alright Then why did they kill my grandfather who was in the ANA during that time? He didn't defect to the other side. Unless it was invasion they wouldn't have any other reason to kill him.
LOL coming here just for the laughs, after the Taliban take-over yesterday, without firing a single shot. So much for the 300,000 Afghan army with their American weapons and traning.
America spent 600 billion training that army.🤣 definitely worth it
@@samuelmoynihan4702 if you're gonna make up numbers round it to a trillion at least
@@samuelmoynihan4702 Money can't buy conviction, valor and faith. Nobody paid the Taliban and they endured 20 years of bombings and the best weapons of the world against them and they still won. The other guys were very well-paid and well-armed but drop their weapons as soon as the fight started. They were merceneries, the Taliban are not merceneries.
Word is it wasnt 300,000 soldiers. That was all b.s number for.money. it was way way less
@@forevermarked5826 Yeah I never swallowed that lie either, they were around 80,000 at the most. And out of those 80k only around 5,000 could be considered real soldiers.
Fast forward 2021, entire Afghan battlions surrender to a guy on a motorcycle with an AK-47 🤦
what happened lol
@@manuelcamera2627 taliban is about to take the whole country within the week
@@iiTzoreo1 i got that, i meant the motorcycle thing
@@manuelcamera2627 They ride around on bikes with guns and machetes and since these people playing army dress up have no clue what they're doing they're surrendering now that nobody else os there to help
Half of these troops are or joined the taliban
Even in this video from years ago, it's clear that the failure of the nation building mission in Afghanistan was due to the incompetence and corruption of the people in senior administrative positions. When locals are asking for simple things like a clinic and a school, and they are ignored, that drives them to neutrality in the conflict or even worse to side with the Taliban.
Terkadang kalau dipikir² kenapa tentara Nasional langsung Menyerah setelah tentara AS meninggalkan Afganistan padahal secara Logika mereka bisa melawan Taliban Dengan Persenjataan canggih alat tempur dan juga sudah Terlatih kenapa mereka tidak melawan kan lucu🤔
@@syahrul9176 Translation:
"Sometimes when you think about why the National Army immediately surrendered after the US troops left Afghanistan when logically they could fight the Taliban With advanced weapons and combat equipment and also trained why they didn't fight, it's funny"
In answer, I think it was because few of the soldiers had any loyalty to the state. They only enlisted to earn a paycheck which was subsidized or paid by the United States. The ones who did want to fight the Taliban were strong armed through fear tactics to surrender as they were outnumbered.
God: Throws down a huge bombardment of tennis ball sized hail and destroys all the cars.
ANA: GLORY TO GOD!!
If "God" smashed up my car. I'd be pretty pissed with him.
That was message to God that they are on wrong side.
@@keksi6844 God doesn't pick sides.
@زید You pick the sides you want god to pick, god does not pick sides.
@زید Do you think god created evil to test your faith?
Watching this in 2021 when the afghan government is about to totally destabilise and lose power because the Taliban has re taken half of the country and over 50 districts, you can see it not working out from here
"No reason to fear 2014"
2021: Hold my tea, Abdullah
2020 world: damn, now this hardly can get any worse...
2021 world: hold my beer.
To anyone that is going to talk bad about the ANA remember that since the war started in 2001 the ANA has had 60k DEATHS fighting the Taliban. These guys come from all over Afghanistan so you get a lot of low barrel people but you also have great soldiers like the Afghan Commandos which the Taliban execute and do not let surrender (google their video of Taliban executing 20 of them a few weeks ago). The goverment of Afghanistan is corrupt as hell and a lot of soldiers had not been paid for 8 months, they had bad food and their government escaped. The USA and NATO was also leaving. I am sure some sort of new Northern Alliance might form if the Taliban go insane
The Nazis would've drooled over this Blitzkrieg that the Taliban performed.
It wasn't a blitzkrieg. It was more comparable to the occupation of the Sudetenland or the annexation of Austria.
The taliban barely even fought. They negotiated the surrender of almost every place they took. Very different from a blitzkrieg
@@rollerboogie Nazis did that alot too. Remember they didn't even touch western, central or southern France. The French negotiated as surrender instead of fighting on. Doesn't really matter how you blitz as long as you blitz.
If Uncle Sam didn't arm the fuckers, they'd still be riding horses in the desert, If Uncle Sam didn't pull out, the Taliban would still be shooting videos in caves. The USA has to take full responsibility for this catastrophe.
32:29 i swear he was about to do a full turn 😂
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It was a waste of film even recording these cowards
3:50 Those marching skills though
A good time to fire at them
They march like school boys being forced to join the marching parade for the school sports day...
@@momotaro__ Even the kids at my school did better
I always hand my gun to someone like 6:36
@@komocho7195 You're*
37:33 so the army would ask the women to leave the house before they enter, but the general can shake hands with her. There's an irony here
shes a foreigner
That marching at 3:54, genuinely the best marching in the Afghan army!
That's not a joke, and that's why they collapsed *faster* than the Taliban could advance!
Doha Agreement dumbass
You think so?
th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxBgliCCJLwK3YIyx0kAU991Aq2d7QV0LX
I looked out my window and saw grass, trees and birds. Much love from 🇦🇺
Respect from Philippines 💖🇵🇭
This soldiers is game changer but in my opinion the officer must do the good thing.
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2021..hahahaba👍👏👌good joke!!...your army did a good job when they took back the 1 City fr8m the IS...ok,they destroyed ist completly...but they took it back ..the fought like real soldiers!!
wow this comment aged like milk. im sure a lot of the soldiers wanted to fight but the officers told them to run
I was an embedded trainer with 4-2-205th in Zabul Province from '06-'07. We did much more fighting back then, with the ANA fighting alongside US. When I left I felt satisfied that my deployment was successful and I had gratitude for the many ANA that died fighting with me and other coalition. Watching this makes me sad.
00:50 when you are in a plane, the last thing you wanna hear is "may God protect you"😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
The kids are so cute.. poor kids :(. They don't deserve to live like that, no one does...
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I can tell you this much: if it was my country, I would fight, and I'm 68 years old!
I have never heard of cowards on this level.
And traitors for that matter.
pontus borg they are exhausted, demoralized, and malnourished. They can barely hold a gun.
@@pontusborg7642 They were Taliban in disguise. They just used the Afghan army as a side hustle to get paid.
You have to remember some of these guys were not getting paid at all for weeks. When they did get paid it was peanuts (Ive read the Taliban actually paid better than the ANA or ANP). They were badly equipped. If they got shot there was no air ambulance to save them. Afghanistan doesn't actually exist as a unified country to these guys, most only care about their own village and only respect their village elder. Some didnt even speak the same language as each other.
That's why they had no desire to fight and inevitably die.
You just don’t understand
18:20 afghan army in a nutshell!
This didn't age well
How many of these fighters were in the olympics? Because they could run really fast when the taliban were coming.
32:26 lol the first guy has no idea what he's doing 😂😂😂
People who criticize this army have no idea about Afghanistan. This Army is shit and should never be compared to another country's Army. After 30 years of war rebuilding an Army is not easy, however our aim was never to build an Army that can take on America, it was to build an Army that could fight the Taliban. This Army is perfectly capable of fighting the Taliban, while the foundations of a new Army are being laid out. A new generation of Afghan army recruits are joining the Army, recruits whom with relative peace and stability have gone to school and university. The Afghan officer academy in Kabul is training the next generation of leaders, both men and women.
lol. its only a matter of time when this corrupt puppet army will completelY collapse. the socialists under najibulah said the same what you said, and they crumbled very quickly. same will happen to the current puppet regime, INSHAALLAH
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LOL you have been misinformed by typical anti-islam webpages who misinterpret and twist ahadith and quran verses, in order to try to damage islam. subhanAllah 'amma yasifoon. you poor creature got into the trap of the islam-haters. if you die in such a state of disbelieve, you will go to hell fire for eternity. really you are a very poor creature.
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verily, God has the power to do all things. on the day of judgement, total complete justice will be established and every soul will get what she deserves....if somebody denied the Quran and was disrepectful to it and a kafir, he will go straight to hell. if somebody was muslim and did good deeds, he can be forgiven and will go to paradies
AfghanHearts All people are equal... religion does not matter. Muslims are the only one saying they have the truth and no one else does... Why not practice the religion you want but letting other people choose for themselves which god they wish to pray to
ILiveandBreathe007
what??? everybody says that his religion is the truth (muslims, christians, jews, hinuds.....)!!! but we the muslims are the one who can proof it. so we are right. and we are forcing nobody to accept our religion. the only thing is that we invite to islam. because islam is the only way to paradies and protection from fire. make some researches if you want to
Sad to think that atleast some of these soldiers actually wanted a change in their country and were willing to fight for it. But the majority just accepted Taliban demands and their leaders essentially sold them out. The corruption in their leadership made this army weak just like the corruption in the South Vietnamese army back in the 70s.
the south vietnamese army had no soul, compared to the brave viet cong
@@turd4295 they had more soul than many give them credit. But you cant fire at the enemy if you have no bullets.
@@blowbert9126 they were fighting in Americas interest, their leaders didn’t care for their people. A spineless, cowardly force who vietnam is better off without.
@@turd4295 to be fair we will never know how South Vietnam could have been because its gone. And many soldiers fought against communism and not just because of USA.
@@blowbert9126 whats wrong with communism? the idea of it has done great things for vietnam.
0:27 John Wick on a mission
Yooo
dat ice falling rainy shit is dangerous
Surrendered quicker than the French
Love from india Afgans😍
Pwolii sanam myr
@@technord4693 hehe
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The woman doing this documentary is beautiful!
not gonna lie yea she's looks Persian
+TheRealDesi Jantha
She is, i recognize the persian accent.
+bohdilama
that's with zero makeup
+bohdilama >Yes very beautiful. And without makeup.
Jeff Peters That is such a failed attempt to gas anyone. Pathetic...
The West really thought these guys could uphold the Taliban lol
if US soldiers lost hope in these ANA guys back then 10 years then afghanistan nation building was doomed from the start. th-cam.com/video/XMwBwVYdUvE/w-d-xo.html
The west never thought they would hold up that's why the west started having negotiations with the Taliban since the west declared they would be leaving. If they had any faith in the Afghan military they would have never spoke to the Taliban and the west would have handed over military bases and strategic points to the Afghan army instead of just leaving military bases open for whoever got to the base next.
39:24 "You are my bro, bro"
Meanwhile
39:30 "I am gonna kick your as*!"
This did not age well
For real bruhhh! Are they playing around 3:53 ???
Looks like a scene straight out of Borat.
ِDuring the history of Afghan army, there were periods that the army were equipped with real Afghan identity and culture and those moments were the moments of success and glory.
Yes, our Taliban proves the success and dedication to our Afghans, culture and identity, which is why the majority of us Afghans support Taliban and our Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan government and security forces now
Peace and prosperity for the Afghan Brothers......love and respect from a commom Pakistani.
What a joke, Pakistan and US means the opposite, when they say we want peace in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 Pakistan is the main cause of instability in Afghanistan due to #DURRANDLINE and Pashtun nationalism
@@Mu5tyLaghmani Brother i dont want to indulge myself into politics because it's a long debate and both countries have their own concern and their own tale to tell...but still as a muslim and as a common pakistani i want peaceful and a progressive Afghnistan for the betterment of both the countires.
@@harrisabbasi973
As for as I know it is like Palestine and Israel situation, infact Afghanistan has lost more than 5 million lives and more than 10 million refugees around the world, much worse atrocities than Palestinians, but all this lives in vain as there is no escape from Pakistan and western countries have common interest with Pakistan against Afghans, this will go on for decades and centuries to come insha Allah, unless the west stops terrorist partnership with Pakistan, or Pakistan say no to USA slavery like Imran Khan was trying but ISI and army as always runs the country, with pride of being slaves. Only the united Pashtuns can break this cycle and bring peace but army will never allow united Pashtuns
Afghan army reminds me of a scene in saving private ryan where two soldiers were fighting up stairs. And one solider was strapped up to the max. Crying on the bottom of the stairs while his buddy was getting slowly stabbed to death.
Afghan army is the dude that was strapped up to the max crying. That didnt want to fight.
Well, this aged like milk
Come 2021 and apparently these guys never really left boot camp. Turned tail at the first battle they had to fight without Uncle Sam.
They hadn't been payed in months... doesn't surprise me there was no resistance
@@andrewb8698 pay doesn't mean anything look at the Taliban
Yep...sad.
For everyone watching post August 2021 and commenting things like "imagine equipping an army and then losing to dudes in turbans and sandals" - at minute 18:00 she mentioned how the US stripped this army of all advanced equipment and then left them on their own with "limited training." So no, not hard to imagine. The writing was on the wall ages ago. A Taliban victory was inevitable.
Also with the lack of communication its not like they could coordinate any kind of defensive structure….but you probably already knew that
How are they supposed to fix even basic equipment when most of them can't read?
28:58 Look at all those landmines they have to pick up...The Russians left 30 million of them. They are killing or wounding 40 Afghans every month. They should go back to Afghanistan and clean those up. Greedy...
Why would Russians go and clean something Afghans took from warehouses and put on the ground lol
AKartashev Russians planted millions of mines during the soviet afghan war.
thetoughguy jr. there aren’t any land mines at 28:58...
The Afghan general is dead now! Rest in Peace!!!
Martyr**
He was assassinated by u know who
Mujtaba Akeed taliban (Pakistan)
My uncle was once president (idk maybe another role i was too young to understand ) he was killed by taliban whilst giving a speech
@@milkyway-uq1wg that's very interesting, could you tell us more? If you don't mind
You could watch this and see how unmotivated the soldiers were.
28:59 nice RPG 7 dude
RIP Abdul Raziq. He actually cared about the country.
My 6 year old nephew can put up a better fight than these Afghans
War that will never end, its truly heart breaking :(
well it ended
@@kostasprince6725 badly
@@randomworld4662 No, that was the best outcome possible. Invaders repelled. Defender succeed.
@@randomworld4662badly for your types and goodly for my types 😊
This is so painful to see..May Afghan army defeat barbaric useless Talibans..may peace prevail there soon :|
@pranav chaudhary Better than Japanese forces in WWII
Japan loves America.
Afghan army and usa killed more civilians than the taliban in 2019
@@ahmedbinyousaf2484 Don't tell a loe
Lie
This is sad to watch, knowing how it ends.
Afghan people fight for your home, family and freedom and right to live in peace! Much love from the United States. As A Marine Veteran I know you guys are strong and will fight for your freedom and for the great future of Afghanistan and it's people.
Love
Hahaha
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Buy our military troops suffered defeat from Taliban 😢
We did and got rid of you US and NATO foreign invader terrorists and your Afghan puppets and all your private contractors.
The new meme army along side with the french with the fastest retreat in history lol
You can give them billions of dollars in equipment and training but you can’t give them a heart or backbone to fight for there country
I’m afraid these lot let there people down what a joke
Their
They never got billions of dollars, it's called phantom aid. Foreign contractors and corrupt bureaucrats took all of the money.
Afghan Tourism Ad featuring Hussein Obama: "Come visit Afghanistan. Be blown away"
this piece did not age well. pretty much just an Afghan Army / US government-media photo op, it was apparent at the time, but its glaringly obvious in 2022
Most of the footages of Afghan police and army looks as if they made it just for this documentary.
29:40 looking for Taliban under the quilts😂🤣
So unorganized ahaha, the Maj. General saw a soldier clearly breaking dress code with two flags on his arm, and the soldiers response was I love my country. How can they expect to be taken seriously, if they cant even discipline themselves enough to follow uniform regulations?
when asked what the wounded Taliban fighter would do after leaving the government hospital, he answered "my service" rip
Cause he know ghani Afghanistan president will leave him. Hahaha everything suck in this country. 1000 percent curropt president to all prime government workers.
it's funny you call these clowns soldiers lol
"Our morale is high"
Country overtaken literally within a week without any shooting
I see a lot of bad-mouthing towards the ANA forces and security forces saying how weak they were and how they fell so easily, so before insulting people you know next to nothing about;
1. The Afghan military doctrine was based on the American model, which means it relied heavily on air support, and as you might have figured out by yourself, the Afghan Airforce does not even start to compare with the US Airforce (equipment, training, budget, etc.). The US probably realised this at some point and decided to cut out most of their air support for Afghan forces in an attempt to not make them reliant on heavy US air support. This change came abruptly, and an army doctrine that fundamentally relies on heavy air support to suddenly receive very minimal air support is far from optimal, this caused morale among the common soldiers to plummet because now they were basically on equal grounds with the Taliban, if not even on lower ground because at least the Taliban had the element of surprise, you can imagine the anxiety of common soldiers at lets say a checkpoint just waiting for the inevitable Taliban hit-and-runs, most of them were no more than sitting ducks when the Taliban knew exactly where and when to strike.
2. As I said previously, the common soldiers are the ones most heavily affected by low morale, and coincidentally the common soldier also makes up the majority of the ANA, please keep in mind when you judge these people that most of them have taken this job that puts their lives at risk just so they can feed their families (their salaries ranged around $100-300, and a lot of the times they were not paid their salaries for months, some of them never even got paid), and most of them joined at a time when it looked like the US was committed to not letting the Taliban take power. When the war suddenly takes such a turn where fighting means almost certain death (I know that the ANA had a number advantage over the Taliban, but the leadership was so atrocious that the ANA soldiers holding checkpoints, towns, etc. were basically just sitting ducks), why would they take that risk as their families only breadwinners? If they die then the family they leave behind is also as good as dead.
3. The ANA Commando Corps only made up ~6-7% of the ANA, but they conducted ~80% of the fighting, these are the guys that joined the war to actually fight for their country (of course there were common ANA soldiers that joined the war just to fight as well, but again their leadership was garbage and most of the time they were used to make places of importance seem harder to capture than they actually were, it was hard for the common ANA soldiers to do much with the bad communication from leadership and the severely different mindsets of the soldiers present). The Commandos fought very well, but even with the number advantage the forces were spread out so thinly over all of Afghanistan that the Taliban could pick and choose where to strike and with how many insurgents, it does not matter if the ANA had a number advantage when they are spread out across all of Afghanistan (now to make this large thinly spread force even less efficient of course the effective leadership was non-existent so the forces could never group up and win overwhelming victories), but this is where we get to our final and most important point as to why Afghanistan fell so quickly to the taliban.
4. All branches of the ANA were told to lay down arms and NOT fight the taliban, there are videos online of some soldiers screaming, crying, pleading at their leaders to not give up, and most of the Commandos went on fighting even after the government fell. Why blame the soldiers when the leadership came out directly and ordered them to lay down arms?? Imagine how the soldiers must have felt, the situation must have already felt hopeless, but when your superiors, the people supposed to lead you to victory betrays you, what are you supposed to do?
I want to add that there are plenty of great generals in the ANA, but it doesn't matter when the government at the top is already corrupt. Please don't diss the common Afghan soldiers nor any other branch of the ANA or the security forces without knowing anything about what happened internally in Afghanistan itself. Most of you are just going by keywords you hear from the media (most notably US media), the situation is much more complex than that. Thank you. Also, I'm sure there are some terms I'm using wrong, but hopefully the message is still understandable.
Dude, it's not like they were defeated in combat. They fled, got run out of the villages into the mountains.
@@photonride8915 Did you even read the whole thing? Also, the soldiers who fled to neighbouring countries (mainly Tajikistan and Uzbekistan) are soldiers of Tajik and Uzbek ethnicities (also Hazaras, but they have no country to flee to except for Afghanistan itself, where they are hunted by the Taliban just for their ethnicity), if you were familiar with the pre-existing ethnic tensions in Afghanistan you would not look at this situation the way you currently do. IF those soldiers were to remain in Afghanistan, even after the leadership betrayed them, what do you think would happen when a large group of armed soldiers are left to themselves? We don't need more armed groups that act independently in Afghanistan. In the end leaving and avoiding persecution is the best for them and their families, anything that doesn't involve death and war is the best for Afghanistan currently until a force strong enough to swiftly remove the Taliban and actually stay in power comes along.
@ApplePie Yes, I did read the entire thing but I think you are just missing the point. You gave us a few interesting and points on why ANA wouldn't have faired in a fight against the Taliban as well as they might have thought earlier and why did they run, but that all is beside the point. You could say that running and saving yourself is always the best option for any soldier that is about to face a tough war with a strong adversary, but most don't. I bet they didn't run from cashing those checks for $100-300 (above the average salary in Afghanistan) or flexing in the US bought kit. And I am not trying to sound like a tough guy, because I'm not. I don't think I could ever fight in a war. But guess what? That's exactly why I'm in digital marketing and not the military.
@@photonride8915 I can get behind some of what you are saying, but then again you are the one missing what I'm trying to convey. They soldiers didn't flee simply because they were facing a strong adversary, the people of Afghanistan have fought and won against much stronger opponents, the point here is that the effective leadership of the ANA essentially just crumbled and disappeared leaving the soldiers with the final message to 'lay down arms'. As both you and I mentioned, the common ANA soldier most likely joined for the pay (you said they earned above average salary, it is actually a pretty average salary when you take into consideration that the average salary in Afghanistan ranges from $100-$250, and don't forget that most of these soldiers never even got paid, you would be lucky to receive even half of the salary you deserve), their morale was as low as could be, and with no leadership to guide or coordinate them why would the common soldier still fight? If they were to get captured by the taliban we both know what those poor souls would have to go through.
The Commando Corps however did not flee, they were/are the ANA's cream of the crop, even after the government fled they fought, after the fall of Kabul they still fought. They later coordinated meeting points and merged with other resistance fighters (the Northern Alliance in Panjshir for example consisted of many Commandos before it fell due to Pakistan providing the taliban with air support). I haven't been following the situation in Afghanistan lately because it's just been making me sad, so I can't comment on how the Northern Alliance and other resistance groups are faring.
I wish I had been watching this situation develop over the years. It is easy to become complacent to all the issues in the world due to lack of time to watch all the news stories, and get all the various perspectives. It's hard enough to keep up with day-to-day work and family time, let alone be concerned with things that are happening in the middle east. But it is interesting to study the whole situation and see how this all unfolded.
One perspective I heard is that perhaps the U.S. could have set up a permanent military installation in Afghanistan the same way we have bases in Germany, Japan, Korea, etc.
so this is pretty much a fail. vice wasnt able to get close to any fighting to see how the army was performing. all they basically got was hearsay from people.
tontonpacute Right, send in the all the reporters to the front line, right up with the first wave. They won't get shot because the stupid Taliban clearly knows they are reporters
yiwei wu If a reporter isn't willing to take that kind of risk then they won't report shit.
Schaffen hausen Wow, a reporter must risk his life to get something ehh, terrific logic championed by all reporters. In fact, why don't we extend this logic to all jobs, if a clerical worker isn't willing to risk his life might as well stop creating reports altogether
yiwei wu don't look realistically at the real world I see. End discussion
Schaffen hausen Realistically if something happens to my workers what do you think will happen? You live in a world without unions and regulations?
I hope the best for Afghans.
LMFAO every person who has deployed there 100% knew this was going to happen with the ANA.