Narration from menace is crazy cause in the end after they kill Caine you realize he is speaking from the position of already being gone and everything from his upbringing to that moment played a part in him losing his life.
@@mook8425 The Smoker That Tried To Still Dookie's Chain Played In Straight Outta Brooklyn He Was The Nigga Who Worked For The Drug Dealer That Dennis Stole Money From He's The Nigga With The Jamaican Nigga Looking For Dennis In The Projects.
I love the way you guys break down black cinema. Its made me go back and rewatch alot of these movies with different eyes,and some for the first time(boomerang). Keep it up fellas 👍🏿👨🏿🦲👍🏿.
Thanks to yall brothers doing these movies reviews. Black film never truly got the respect it deserves but the perspective you both bring would make anyone appreciate it!
In my opinion New Jack City, Boyz N Da Hood, Juice & Menace II Society is the Mount Rushmore of hood classics. Each movie launched a lot of careers, starred rappers & taught us life lessons. Each movie is referenced in other movies & also on shows, songs, albums & mixtapes. They’re also still relevant 30 plus years later and you could have your black card revoked if you’ve never seen them.
listen man y'all are honestly 2 of thee most important movie critics. I mean that genuinely. you're influencing future movie reviewers. such quality educated convos. much respect! create a patreon and watch them both live.
Menace was better but Boyz in the hood is my fav of them both tho.. because menace give it to you from the perspective of the misguided that make the hood so dangerous. You see how they come to the conclusions they do when they only have each other to ask questions to. Boyz in the hood makes me say, "now i know y'all know better than that" while menace makes me say "well what else were they gonna do??"
I feel like Boys n tha Hood is a better movie from the standpoint of story, character building and message, but Menace is more raw, gangsta and makes you feel far more uncomfortable. Aside from that I feel like Boys leaves you with at least a sense of optimism amidst the sorrow, while menace leaves you with a pessimistic feel.
I was born in Nigeria and I saw these great films growing up in Nigeria. I understood the messages of the films but from a POV of a Nigerian. Hearing you guys talk about these films from your POV of actually living in the communities that these films portray is very eye-opening, I understand these much better on a deeper level. Thanks and Kudos 👏👏👏
When Tone said “I’m not as emotionally connected to Menace To Society as I am to Boyz In The Hood”. My sentiments exactly. I feel like the storyline better and the rewatch ability alone does it for me. Both are good black busters. As I’ve gotten older Menace To Society is a hard watch.
It really is I felt that first time I watched it without it being on TV. It’s more brutal and Caine ass all bloody up Stacy holding him. That shit was too much
boyz is more relatable to people from the hood.. menace is more relatable to niggas really in the streets That's really the premise of both movies boyz in the hood is about boys who are in the hood.. from the gang members like Doughboy , monster and dookie , squares like tre and brandi , athletes like ricky , hoodrats like regina king it really hits home for a lot of people because it's meant to appeal to everybody in the hood not just the street niggas Menace is about the what happens when the hood takes you under you see caine go from petty drug dealing to car jacking and eventually murder and that also hits home but for only a certain demographic if you ain't never lived like caine you won't be as emotionally invested..
Why I feel Boyz resonated with me better is u got alot of balance from different perspectives....u had the OG in furious kicking knowledge and letting the people in the film along with viewers watching what's goin on in the world. U have the every day run of the mill stuff that happens to teens with interactions with each other, the opposite gender and the cops ...u had the trash black cop smile at trey as a kid but that same cop pulls a gun on him years later thinking he was gang banging. U had the dynamic with dough and Ricky with their mom. The movie hits on alot of points. Menace hits on things that happen in the hood but it's more tunnel vision of the vicious cycle of violence.
I agree 150%.....I liked the fact that John Singelton who also did Baby Boy had a knack for writing 3 dimensional fully formed characters, unlike the Hughes Brothers who portrayed all of their characters as psychopaths with no heart. By deep diving into the psyche of the character it allows you to better understand why a certain character reacts to situations the way that they do.
@@DeeDaKaang1 Two Different Realities Boyz Showed The Characters In A Human Light Where The Characters In Menace Came From Backgrounds And An Environment Where Violence Is Considered Normal And Is Considered To Be A Part Of Manhood.
Boyz in the hood is the OG but I think Menace 2 society was the better film. One of the biggest lessons I learned in this movie was in the opening scene that stayed with me forever. The lesson was you can’t control how other people respond to disrespect, now we all can agree that ODog went too far but the store owners was MAD disrespectful and had it coming.
@@vincentharris2259 right! It seems like in Menace to Society we see the characters in a never ending cycle. Stacy wasn’t gangbanging correct me if I’m wrong but he been around, Sharif got out of it. Them two wanted a change and wanted Caine to come with them. O’Dog already had his mind made up. Caine grandparents basically wasn’t shit. Grandpa quoting scriptures was not cutting it, grandma worried about him but she thinks she already far gone
Love the comparisons it allows y’all to talk more about the characters that you didn’t get to share due to time constraints. Definitely looking forward to more !
Menace is the clear winner of you're 16 years old..live to be old...Boyz is way more realistic, universal and moving. I thought I was weird for having tears come to eyes while visiting film locations in South Central and then later found out that hundreds of people have had the same emotions when going to these places.
Man ya'll two killed it (no pun intended)...The regular reviews are fire (with or without guess); but the comparison review is next level... I think most people lean towards Boyz in the Hood because the lead character lives and has a happy ending (Tre going off to college and leaves the hood); where the lead character in Menace to Society (Cane) is trying to leave the hood and falls short and dies before he can turn his life around.... but both movies were cold (good); man cant wait to see the next double feature review...Side note I agree go two movies at a time on comparison.
I'm glad this was just a comparison between "Boyz N The Hood" vs. "Menace II Society". While Juice is set in the hood, it's not even the same type of film.
To me both films were very impactful. The narrative of each film showcased a different perspective of LA through the lens of the protagonist. In Boys N the Hood Tre was from the environment but he wasn't active. He was surrounded by gangs, drugs, and police brutality but he didn't let it consume. Alot of the reason why trey didn't get caught up is because he had that structure at home with his Pops Furious. Even when he was about to go ride with Dough and his crew the way he was brought up by Furious caused him to tell them to let him out. Whereas Kaine was from the environment but he was an active participant in the activities. He didn't have the structure Trey had due to his parents dying at an early age so he had to fend for himself. He had his grandparents but they weren't able to get through him . He had some positive influences in his life like Mr Butler and Ronnie but they weren't able to get through to him until it was too late.
yall should watch all the movies together before yall do the show and try to save the comments for us. I somehow just came across this Podcast today and I'm already 5 videos in going for more! This is needed!
Farris was a blood but i dont think Dohboy and his crew banged they were just hood dudes....but Farris as a lot older than Dohboy and everyone, Dohboy mentioned it to his crew calling Farris "old"
MeChan... Doughboy And His Boys Were Crips They Just Didn't Throw It In Your Face Plus The Way That Monster And Dookie Had Their Hair Gangsters Back Then Wore It Like That.
New Jersey Drive was Menace 2 Society all over again, guys who had all the chances in the world to make a difference but still was caught up in the same ish, more so New Jersey drive, because when Caine finally wanted better for himself and Ronnie he was killed🤷🏾♂️
Cube and Pac are similar , Pac was highly influenced by cube . From the dress code and musical content. What saved cube was he had both parents to keep him grounded from day one and married a down to earth woman very early in his career . Pac came from Troubled background.
Damn 😞…Yeah he was the son of a Black Panther (Afeni Shakur). When he start talking about the Panthers and shit in interviews I believe he already knew he was a target. I mean Afeni Shakur is in history books.
To me Monster was a next level shooter. In a moving vehicle at dark night with no lights, he is hungry and has shades on with an AK(aren't known for accuracy but more for power) and he tagged his opponents?! He was naturally talented. Even if you looked back in the movie when they were playing on the game duck hunt he was a shooter. Monster legit was talented l, could of made a great soldier
That scene was kinda unrealistic because he was loading the AK up with bare hands any real shooter knows that a no no and 9 times out if 10 Monster been carded by lapd so yeah that was hella unrealistic😂😂
Love this podcast.Finally black films get the look and respect they deserve. That being said, Menace is prolly more realistic x needs to be shown today in college or high school frfr
This is a tough 1......Personally I feel that Boyz N The Hood wins for 3 major reasons: 1.) We never got a chance to see Tupac Amaru Shakur play either Kane/ O-Dog.....We know that realistically they wouldn't have made him waste his talents playing Sharif 2.) Boyz N The Hood showed something that know other film had before or since; we had never seen what happens when someone takes their love 1 home after they've been murdered. 😪 3.) I personally feel that Boyz N The Hood was alot better drama & while it had it's stereotypical gangbanging moments it also showed people who lived in the hood as 3 dimensional characters.
I feel like Boyz N The Hood is more of how people that grew up in the Hood see ourselves, Juice and Menace II Society is more of the start of the caricature that was created in the 90s about that existence. The "monsters" if you will. Its real easy to see villains in Juice and Menace unless you truly understand the context. They require a deeper understanding than most people have, so it is easy to lose the message. While Boyz N The Hood is such good storytelling that you can connect with everyone in it without needing to actually have lived it.
Deepest Line Boyz- Ice 🧊 “They either don’t know don’t show” Menace- Tie: Charles H Dutton “The hunt is on” Bill Duke” You know you done f-d up right”!!!
I would have to say Menace 2 Society is a better movie because of the Raw Delivery . Boyz in the hood is something that is more appealing to what the world may want to believe the hood to be . Menace showed the untold raw truth of what happens in the hood , and everything that the world is afraid to accept. Like y’all pointed out Boyz in the hood still had an essence of hope , The world needed a movie like Menace to witness how all hope can be destroyed for a young kid without ever knowing it was a thing .
You took the words out of my mouth, but I would have to say boys n the hood was more important and needed because in M2S there is no hope, and when Caine finally wanted to make a change he was killed, but I think M2S would have been different had Tupac been in the film🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Juice is my personal favorite. Menace is the superior film of the three though. And that’s not to shit on Boyz N the hood cause it’s a classic. I just think that certain elements of Menace are truly terrifying and they captured it perfectly
Both Classics, but if i had to choose than Boyz in da Hood was the better film in my opinion because I felt like it had a stronger cast and the storytellinng was better.
That big brother analogy that was used is basically Shannon and Sterling Sharpe , all though Sterling was more versatile and had raw talent , Shannon lasted longer and got 3 Superbowls
New Jersey Drive was Menace 2 Society all over again, guys who had all the chances in the world to make a difference but still was caught up in the same ish, more so New Jersey drive, because when Caine finally wanted better for himself and Ronnie he was killed🤷🏾♂️
Colors was the very time i had knowledge of the bs and cs. Edit South Central showed me about life in LA. Edit again The song that played while dough boy and the crew was out for revenge. That song is banging.
I identified more with Juice because I am from the east coast and the music was in my headphones at the time. I appreciated the cinematography of Boyz after the fact. Menace felt more aggressive, almost like a horror version of the others. It didn’t really have a hero either, so there was really nowhere for the “straight” viewer to find themselves. 1. Juice, 2. Boyz, 3. Menace in terms of MY enjoyment.
Instead of comparing Juice, South Central would of been a better comparison, In a Sequel of Menice O-Dog would basically become Og Bobby Johnson's character going to prison changing his way
Boys in the Hood feels better because of the quality of actors. But Menace to Society felt more honest about what was going on in certain neighborhoods. But there's no wrong answer.
Both of these movies are classics….But Menace to me is better because it changed the culture! Dudes started shooting sideways mimicking O! Also, I LOVE THIS SHOW!❤️
O Dog got arrested at the end of Menace though. He probably wouldn't be able to move around and do some of the stuff yal are suggesting (though they would make for a cool story)
I think he's confused cause Boyz in the hood is the only move that had football...And Boyz in the hood paved the way and sat the stage for both of those moves...
Its not alot movies on the level of juice to compare it to but one that one is really good thas underrated that is a good comparison is strapped with fredro star and bokeem woodbine
Boys n da hood is the most impactful to me, because it was not only Ice cube’s acting debut, but it introduced Nia Long, Cuba Gooding , and Morris Chestnut. We also got to see the beginning of Regina King’s acting range. Juice was 2nd in my opinion because it wasn’t just a hood movie, but it was a psychological thriller, and Tupac’s acting debut was superb! Other than Larenz Tate’s amazing character portrayal, I didn’t care too much for Menace to Society, because it was too raw, and triggering.
Ramona Askew.... People Like Menace More Because It Shows The Brutal Reality Of Living In The Hood Where The Wrong Words Can Get You Killed Any Form Of Disrespect Can Get You Killed A Place Where If Something Wants What You Have They Will Take Your Life For It Brutal Honest Reality Boyz N The Hood Is A Classic And It's One Of My Favorite Movies But It's Too Sanitized.
@@vincentharris2259 of course. Tone explained it perfectly for me, in Menace there did not appear to be any hope. Although a great movie, that’s why I didn’t care for it 🤷🏽♀️
The difference between both movies is Menace 2 society had no redeemable characters and maybe that’s part of what makes it a real portrayal of hood life. Boyz in the hood all the main characters had moral compasses you can identify with.
Narration from menace is crazy cause in the end after they kill Caine you realize he is speaking from the position of already being gone and everything from his upbringing to that moment played a part in him losing his life.
It was patterned after the movie Goodfellas another classic....Hughes brothers were big fans of scorcese
Y’all are the black Siskell & Ebert! Black movies need this kid of visibility! Keep going fellas! #2daMaxx
Naw frfr...
Defined agree. Definitely need more off this
Funniest line is "nigga I said with cheese"
Let me put it like this Boyz N The Hood is the black version of Stand By Me & Menace II Society is the black version of Goodfellas.
Funniest part of Boyz was when the smoker tryed to steal homie chain and they beat his ass!😂😂
Bruh got his ass whupped to "Just me and you" soundtrack lmao
@@mook8425 The irony!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mook8425 The Smoker That Tried To Still Dookie's Chain Played In Straight Outta Brooklyn He Was The Nigga Who Worked For The Drug Dealer That Dennis Stole Money From He's The Nigga With The Jamaican Nigga Looking For Dennis In The Projects.
With the We Want Eazy Shirt on that was added in by cube due to his beef with NWA at the time
In addition to the movies, this conversation was thought provoking! Thank you for this conversation!
I love the way you guys break down black cinema. Its made me go back and rewatch alot of these movies with different eyes,and some for the first time(boomerang). Keep it up fellas 👍🏿👨🏿🦲👍🏿.
Thanks to yall brothers doing these movies reviews. Black film never truly got the respect it deserves but the perspective you both bring would make anyone appreciate it!
In my opinion New Jack City, Boyz N Da Hood, Juice & Menace II Society is the Mount Rushmore of hood classics. Each movie launched a lot of careers, starred rappers & taught us life lessons. Each movie is referenced in other movies & also on shows, songs, albums & mixtapes. They’re also still relevant 30 plus years later and you could have your black card revoked if you’ve never seen them.
Agreed
Not to mention that they all were highly promoted even to this day I still remember seeing these promotions as a kid on tv, also New Jersey Drive
I agree 100%.
I'd love to watch you guys compare CB4 and Fear of A Black Hat like this!
👏👏👏👏👏👏
Fear of a Black Hat is light years better!
listen man y'all are honestly 2 of thee most important movie critics. I mean that genuinely. you're influencing future movie reviewers. such quality educated convos. much respect! create a patreon and watch them both live.
Y'all should discuss Lean On Me. That would be a great conversation
Hollywood monopoly on inner city schools George McKenna n all the others
My Uncle mentioned Proverbs 9:9-11. I was in the military and born between 1619-2019.
Menace was better but Boyz in the hood is my fav of them both tho.. because menace give it to you from the perspective of the misguided that make the hood so dangerous. You see how they come to the conclusions they do when they only have each other to ask questions to. Boyz in the hood makes me say, "now i know y'all know better than that" while menace makes me say "well what else were they gonna do??"
Menace was more unguided, Mr.Butler was the only person who could reach Caine to go to Kansas
10:00 Jah described Lonzo and LaMelo using these movies 😂😂😂
I feel like Boys n tha Hood is a better movie from the standpoint of story, character building and message, but Menace is more raw, gangsta and makes you feel far more uncomfortable. Aside from that I feel like Boys leaves you with at least a sense of optimism amidst the sorrow, while menace leaves you with a pessimistic feel.
Both great movies. Love them both. A good comparison for Juice would be Paid in Full. I think both films have alot common past being set in NY
Paid in full is a true story
This is dope way to review these equally great films.
I was born in Nigeria and I saw these great films growing up in Nigeria. I understood the messages of the films but from a POV of a Nigerian. Hearing you guys talk about these films from your POV of actually living in the communities that these films portray is very eye-opening, I understand these much better on a deeper level. Thanks and Kudos 👏👏👏
When Tone said “I’m not as emotionally connected to Menace To Society as I am to Boyz In The Hood”. My sentiments exactly. I feel like the storyline better and the rewatch ability alone does it for me. Both are good black busters. As I’ve gotten older Menace To Society is a hard watch.
@Jordan Moses I Felt Emotionally Connected To Caine The Part That Did It For Me Was Caine Pistol Whipping Chauncey And Him Getting Killed
It really is I felt that first time I watched it without it being on TV. It’s more brutal and Caine ass all bloody up Stacy holding him. That shit was too much
@@91Definite That’s exactly what the director were going for
boyz is more relatable to people from the hood.. menace is more relatable to niggas really in the streets
That's really the premise of both movies boyz in the hood is about boys who are in the hood.. from the gang members like Doughboy , monster and dookie , squares like tre and brandi , athletes like ricky , hoodrats like regina king it really hits home for a lot of people because it's meant to appeal to everybody in the hood not just the street niggas
Menace is about the what happens when the hood takes you under you see caine go from petty drug dealing to car jacking and eventually murder and that also hits home but for only a certain demographic if you ain't never lived like caine you won't be as emotionally invested..
You gotta remember that if it wasn’t for Boyz N The Hood Juice and Menace ii Society would not exist Boyz N The Hood came out before both of them
Can I request a review for “Don’t Be A Menace To South Central While Drinking Your Juice In The Hood”?? Please and thanks lol!!
Why I feel Boyz resonated with me better is u got alot of balance from different perspectives....u had the OG in furious kicking knowledge and letting the people in the film along with viewers watching what's goin on in the world. U have the every day run of the mill stuff that happens to teens with interactions with each other, the opposite gender and the cops ...u had the trash black cop smile at trey as a kid but that same cop pulls a gun on him years later thinking he was gang banging. U had the dynamic with dough and Ricky with their mom. The movie hits on alot of points. Menace hits on things that happen in the hood but it's more tunnel vision of the vicious cycle of violence.
I agree 150%.....I liked the fact that John Singelton who also did Baby Boy had a knack for writing 3 dimensional fully formed characters, unlike the Hughes Brothers who portrayed all of their characters as psychopaths with no heart. By deep diving into the psyche of the character it allows you to better understand why a certain character reacts to situations the way that they do.
@@DeeDaKaang1 another gem JS did was higher learning.
@@rashadwalker8218 exactly, again every 1 of those characters were fully formed human beings
@@DeeDaKaang1 Two Different Realities Boyz Showed The Characters In A Human Light Where The Characters In Menace Came From Backgrounds And An Environment Where Violence Is Considered Normal And Is Considered To Be A Part Of Manhood.
Boyz in the hood definitely was more versatile of a movie.
Here’s a suggestion, I think y’all should do New Jack City versus Paid In Full.
A battle of the heavyweight classics 🥊🥊🥊🥊
Boyz in the hood is the OG but I think Menace 2 society was the better film. One of the biggest lessons I learned in this movie was in the opening scene that stayed with me forever. The lesson was you can’t control how other people respond to disrespect, now we all can agree that ODog went too far but the store owners was MAD disrespectful and had it coming.
wAlKer...Menace Is Edgier And Is More Realistic But You Care More About The Characters In Boyz N The Hood.
@@vincentharris2259 right! It seems like in Menace to Society we see the characters in a never ending cycle. Stacy wasn’t gangbanging correct me if I’m wrong but he been around, Sharif got out of it. Them two wanted a change and wanted Caine to come with them. O’Dog already had his mind made up. Caine grandparents basically wasn’t shit. Grandpa quoting scriptures was not cutting it, grandma worried about him but she thinks she already far gone
@@91Definite Lol You Said His Grandparents Weren't Shit They Were Just Old Fashioned And Set In Their Ways Just Like Parents Are
My line from Menace - You better go somewhere with that black power shit. You know that shit gets no play in this ride. 😂😂😂
Love the comparisons it allows y’all to talk more about the characters that you didn’t get to share due to time constraints. Definitely looking forward to more !
How is belly not talked about yet?
Menace is the clear winner of you're 16 years old..live to be old...Boyz is way more realistic, universal and moving. I thought I was weird for having tears come to eyes while visiting film locations in South Central and then later found out that hundreds of people have had the same emotions when going to these places.
Caine: Yea but, I dunno know bout no Kansas.😅😅
Mr. Butler: Yea Yea, I hear ya there, but what u gonna do if you stay?
Bars
I hope Baby boy is done as well.
And how to be a player
I use to despise these films because I hated being in the hood so why watching them, watching your podcast makes me want to revisit these movies
I knew it was only a matter of time, but this is the one I been waiting for!
FACTS! Y'all should review Shottas and see how the hood of Jamaica relates to the hood of America
Man ya'll two killed it (no pun intended)...The regular reviews are fire (with or without guess); but the comparison review is next level... I think most people lean towards Boyz in the Hood because the lead character lives and has a happy ending (Tre going off to college and leaves the hood); where the lead character in Menace to Society (Cane) is trying to leave the hood and falls short and dies before he can turn his life around.... but both movies were cold (good); man cant wait to see the next double feature review...Side note I agree go two movies at a time on comparison.
There was a black buster store on Western & 93th street in LA back in the 90s
I'm glad this was just a comparison between "Boyz N The Hood" vs. "Menace II Society". While Juice is set in the hood, it's not even the same type of film.
As a teenager I thought Menace was better but as a full grown adult I think Boyz N The Hood is the better overall movie!
Same. The only push back Inwould give is Boys had the more polished actors which is probably why Menace felt so raw. But, there's no wrong answer
To me both films were very impactful. The narrative of each film showcased a different perspective of LA through the lens of the protagonist. In Boys N the Hood Tre was from the environment but he wasn't active. He was surrounded by gangs, drugs, and police brutality but he didn't let it consume. Alot of the reason why trey didn't get caught up is because he had that structure at home with his Pops Furious. Even when he was about to go ride with Dough and his crew the way he was brought up by Furious caused him to tell them to let him out. Whereas Kaine was from the environment but he was an active participant in the activities. He didn't have the structure Trey had due to his parents dying at an early age so he had to fend for himself. He had his grandparents but they weren't able to get through him . He had some positive influences in his life like Mr Butler and Ronnie but they weren't able to get through to him until it was too late.
yall should watch all the movies together before yall do the show and try to save the comments for us. I somehow just came across this Podcast today and I'm already 5 videos in going for more! This is needed!
Farris was a blood but i dont think Dohboy and his crew banged they were just hood dudes....but Farris as a lot older than Dohboy and everyone, Dohboy mentioned it to his crew calling Farris "old"
MeChan... Doughboy And His Boys Were Crips They Just Didn't Throw It In Your Face Plus The Way That Monster And Dookie Had Their Hair Gangsters Back Then Wore It Like That.
57:25 time stamp is literally what explains why youth continue to rebel😮💨😮
This pod was put on my recommendations, bet! I have catching up to do.
Yall should do strapped or who's the man next!!!! Straight out of Brooklyn and New Jersey drive are similar
New Jersey Drive was Menace 2 Society all over again, guys who had all the chances in the world to make a difference but still was caught up in the same ish, more so New Jersey drive, because when Caine finally wanted better for himself and Ronnie he was killed🤷🏾♂️
So was straight out of Brooklyn which was a year b4 menace
Paid in Full and New Jack City would be two great New York films to compare..
Cube and Pac are similar , Pac was highly influenced by cube . From the dress code and musical content.
What saved cube was he had both parents to keep him grounded from day one and married a down to earth woman very early in his career . Pac came from Troubled background.
Damn 😞…Yeah he was the son of a Black Panther (Afeni Shakur). When he start talking about the Panthers and shit in interviews I believe he already knew he was a target. I mean Afeni Shakur is in history books.
I think juice was more impactful for east coast people because most of us thought gang culture was stupid back in the days.
To me Monster was a next level shooter. In a moving vehicle at dark night with no lights, he is hungry and has shades on with an AK(aren't known for accuracy but more for power) and he tagged his opponents?! He was naturally talented. Even if you looked back in the movie when they were playing on the game duck hunt he was a shooter. Monster legit was talented l, could of made a great soldier
That scene was kinda unrealistic because he was loading the AK up with bare hands any real shooter knows that a no no and 9 times out if 10 Monster been carded by lapd so yeah that was hella unrealistic😂😂
New Jersey Drive v Drive would be FIRE..... but have y'all reviewed NJD yet?
Love this podcast.Finally black films get the look and respect they deserve. That being said, Menace is prolly more realistic x needs to be shown today in college or high school frfr
Excellent dialogue my brudah's and I agree Juice is in it's own category.
One ♥️🖤💚
Caught that Ball Brother reference also 😭
That Tupac Ice Cube comparison was great. Never really put them together that way. A lot of similarities
This is a tough 1......Personally I feel that Boyz N The Hood wins for 3 major reasons:
1.) We never got a chance to see Tupac Amaru Shakur play either Kane/ O-Dog.....We know that realistically they wouldn't have made him waste his talents playing Sharif
2.) Boyz N The Hood showed something that know other film had before or since; we had never seen what happens when someone takes their love 1 home after they've been murdered. 😪
3.) I personally feel that Boyz N The Hood was alot better drama & while it had it's stereotypical gangbanging moments it also showed people who lived in the hood as 3 dimensional characters.
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Well said I agree.
@@philipwhite3388 I Never Understood Why They Took His Body Home
The funniest line is “punk ass Chauncey” me and my guys used to say that about people cornballs in the hood.
If I recall right the line was “ faggot ass Chauncey”
But Chauncey wasn't no punk,just a asshole of the movie 😂
This was a great review.
I feel like Boyz N The Hood is more of how people that grew up in the Hood see ourselves, Juice and Menace II Society is more of the start of the caricature that was created in the 90s about that existence. The "monsters" if you will. Its real easy to see villains in Juice and Menace unless you truly understand the context. They require a deeper understanding than most people have, so it is easy to lose the message. While Boyz N The Hood is such good storytelling that you can connect with everyone in it without needing to actually have lived it.
BITH: talks more about the struggle in the hood & youth
MIIS: talks more about the violence between black men in the Hood
Deepest Line Boyz- Ice 🧊 “They either don’t know don’t show”
Menace- Tie: Charles H Dutton “The hunt is on” Bill Duke” You know you done f-d up right”!!!
I would have to say Menace 2 Society is a better movie because of the Raw Delivery . Boyz in the hood is something that is more appealing to what the world may want to believe the hood to be . Menace showed the untold raw truth of what happens in the hood , and everything that the world is afraid to accept.
Like y’all pointed out Boyz in the hood still had an essence of hope , The world needed a movie like Menace to witness how all hope can be destroyed for a young kid without ever knowing it was a thing .
You took the words out of my mouth, but I would have to say boys n the hood was more important and needed because in M2S there is no hope, and when Caine finally wanted to make a change he was killed, but I think M2S would have been different had Tupac been in the film🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@seanholmes5173 great point ! Kids also needed to know that there are options and choices and positive examples
Last thing , I wish they showed how Caine killers knew where Ronnie house was to be able to get Caine
M2S all day!!!! Btw Jah you still have to do Fresh and South Central for Hood classics
New Jersey Drive too
Juice is my personal favorite. Menace is the superior film of the three though. And that’s not to shit on Boyz N the hood cause it’s a classic. I just think that certain elements of Menace are truly terrifying and they captured it perfectly
Both Classics, but if i had to choose than Boyz in da Hood was the better film in my opinion because I felt like it had a stronger cast and the storytellinng was better.
I got a good one. Ghosts of Mississippi(Medger Evers case) VS A Time To Kill(Samuel L Jackson)
That big brother analogy that was used is basically Shannon and Sterling Sharpe , all though Sterling was more versatile and had raw talent , Shannon lasted longer and got 3 Superbowls
Boyz in the hood is the Martin and menace Is the Malcolm..
Doughboy Becomes Fudge from Higher Learning
New Jersey Drive was Menace 2 Society all over again, guys who had all the chances in the world to make a difference but still was caught up in the same ish, more so New Jersey drive, because when Caine finally wanted better for himself and Ronnie he was killed🤷🏾♂️
If y’all watch boyz n mennace together record it! Big content‼️
Colors was the very time i had knowledge of the bs and cs.
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South Central showed me about life in LA.
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The song that played while dough boy and the crew was out for revenge. That song is banging.
Here’s full Circle ⭕️ Fellas: 2Pac was supposed to play Shariff in Menace to Society!! But he got in a fight with co-director Allen Hughes!!
I identified more with Juice because I am from the east coast and the music was in my headphones at the time. I appreciated the cinematography of Boyz after the fact. Menace felt more aggressive, almost like a horror version of the others. It didn’t really have a hero either, so there was really nowhere for the “straight” viewer to find themselves. 1. Juice, 2. Boyz, 3. Menace in terms of MY enjoyment.
FUN FACT: TYRIN TURNER WAS ORIGINALLY SET TO STAR IN "BOYZ N THE HOOD" AS THE ROLE OF TRE
Great episode until that comment about Boyz to Men & Jodeci lol
1. Boyz N The Hood
2. Juice
3. Menace II Society
Im surprised south central hasnt been reviewed or brought up
Instead of comparing Juice, South Central would of been a better comparison, In a Sequel of Menice O-Dog would basically become Og Bobby Johnson's character going to prison changing his way
Boys in the Hood feels better because of the quality of actors. But Menace to Society felt more honest about what was going on in certain neighborhoods. But there's no wrong answer.
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Both of these movies are classics….But Menace to me is better because it changed the culture! Dudes started shooting sideways mimicking O! Also, I LOVE THIS SHOW!❤️
thats not a good thing-_- lol
@@jahjohnson31 Boyz Is A Classic But Niggas Related More To Menace Because It Was Too Real.
O Dog got arrested at the end of Menace though. He probably wouldn't be able to move around and do some of the stuff yal are suggesting (though they would make for a cool story)
Boyz in the Hood walked so that Menace could run. Both are great. Menace was better but Boyz had to be there so there could be a Menace made.
Recommendation- Lean on me
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Please do blue hill ave
I think he's confused cause Boyz in the hood is the only move that had football...And Boyz in the hood paved the way and sat the stage for both of those moves...
Yo y'all gotta do Strapped
This messed up Funniest line - “ay homie you need some help” by MC eight
New Jersey Drive underrated film about hood storys.
Its not alot movies on the level of juice to compare it to but one that one is really good thas underrated that is a good comparison is strapped with fredro star and bokeem woodbine
Ok I hear y'all on Monsta and I agree but how come no mention of Awax
Menace ll society was the sequel to Boyz n the hood
Have yall heard the fan theory that Furious is Doughboy's dad?
Y’all forgot “Tales from the Hood” lol
Boys n da hood is the most impactful to me, because it was not only Ice cube’s acting debut, but it introduced Nia Long, Cuba Gooding , and Morris Chestnut. We also got to see the beginning of Regina King’s acting range.
Juice was 2nd in my opinion because it wasn’t just a hood movie, but it was a psychological thriller, and Tupac’s acting debut was superb!
Other than Larenz Tate’s amazing character portrayal, I didn’t care too much for Menace to Society, because it was too raw, and triggering.
Ramona Askew.... People Like Menace More Because It Shows The Brutal Reality Of Living In The Hood Where The Wrong Words Can Get You Killed Any Form Of Disrespect Can Get You Killed A Place Where If Something Wants What You Have They Will Take Your Life For It Brutal Honest Reality Boyz N The Hood Is A Classic And It's One Of My Favorite Movies But It's Too Sanitized.
@@vincentharris2259 of course. Tone explained it perfectly for me, in Menace there did not appear to be any hope. Although a great movie, that’s why I didn’t care for it 🤷🏽♀️
The difference between both movies is Menace 2 society had no redeemable characters and maybe that’s part of what makes it a real portrayal of hood life. Boyz in the hood all the main characters had moral compasses you can identify with.
is that Stacey from Menace 2 society
Can u review snow in the bluff