Personally i just like to use the amps cross-overs anymore. I used to use separate devices like that back in the late 90s, but these days plenty of amps have great built-in cross-overs.
@@DirtyKk look at the prv auido 2.8x it's an 8 channel so you can adjust every channel if you run 2 amps off of that DSP, it's the best cheap one but it doesn't have that Bluetooth so you'll have to adjust it by hand which isn't that bad after you set it up
I like how you were not trying to sell the unit. It’s for the heads that want SQ. The average listener doesn’t need it. You left it up to the consumer to decide if they think they need it. Natural salesman. Geat video.
When I got started in building systems in my cars years ago I always had an external crossover even though the amps usually had built in crossovers in them. People would aleays say " you don't need that, your amps have crossovers built in." I'd say i know that but i like mine with an external cause the quality and the bass is so much better. In 2011 when i bought my Nissan brand new, after several months I decided to go aftermarket and rebuild my system again and I opted to try it without a crossover and just use the amps. Right away i wasn't really impressed but i left it that way for several years. Then i upgraded again ftom 12s in a sealed box to 15s in a ported box, jumped up my subs amp and added a crossover and it was like putting the hat on Frosty The Snowman, instantly not just me but everyone who heard my system could hear how much cleaner it sounded on a whole. So now, I know I'll probably always have a crossover from now on but that's just me, I could just be strange or different.
The comment below makes a good point. But, what is important is that your amps match your speakers and sub frequency response. Often the amp's high or low pass crossovers will limit speaker performance because the crossover range does not match the speaker or sub. Having an active crossover like this usually gives you much broader range to dial in the correct frequencies from the high or low crossovers for your sub or speakers. Also having a strong signal (higher voltage via RCA cables) being sent to the amp will improve sound quality as well. There is a place for active crossovers, and it depends on the performance of your amplifier, and the different high and low pass filters available on it. (Ex. You have a subwoofer that has F.R. of 30Hz -250 Hz, but your amp's low pass filter has a limit of say 120Hz. Ideally you want an amp that can play that full 30Hz-250Hz range.) And given that most car amplifiers do not have Digital Optical input, using a DSP then sending that signal via RCA cables to your amp kinda defeats the purpose of a DSP. You can save some $$ but still get good sound quality using analog equipment, just make sure your wire connections are large enough to carry the full signal without any voltage drop/signal loss. Now go turn that shit up!
I used to own one of these exact models. It made my bass sound SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better I didnt even believe it at first. As to why I think its just due to the super high preout voltage you get. He didnt say it in the video but this thing can give you up to 14v on the PREOUT LOW LEVELS
I'd like to have one.. Mainly because I have a wall and my 4chan is in the back where I can't adjust anything while listening to it. Like you said having one on in the console or near could help in that type of situation.
My question is how come most of these crossovers are just 2 channel not 4 channel input. You have front and back on the backing of the stereo for your RCA’s. But when you go to the crossover, it’s just one input left and right.
Hi Sir. Thank you so much for posting the video. Please advise. I can't get my subwoofer to produce 20Hz bass; it still has punchy bass, which I don't want. Should I use an aftermarket cross over like "boss" to get the 20Hz wavy bass? I have a 12 inch, 2000watt Pioneer sub in ported box (responsive to 20Hz) with a dedicated Pioneer mono block 1000Hz amp in my car. The remaining midranges and tweeters each have their own 6 channel pioneer amplifier. Finally, I have a graphic equalizer. Please advise, sir, if I should get a cross over I, and tune it to 20zHz ? I have tried using several graphic equalizers, but none of them had a 20Hz bass knob to enable this kind of bas.s P lease advise, Thanks.
Great video JP!!! 👍👍👍 What would be the difference between this product and say an AUDIO CONTROL DQDX DSP?? Which would be better to invest in and why, to help me make my decision as to which one to purchase for my install that I'm currently working on!!! Thank You for your help if its possible!!! ✌️✌️✌️
So if I used an active crossover such as this device to send a LPF setting at 80Hz to my mono sub amp would I keep the LPF crossover on the amp turned all the way up/open?
really quick if I want to use the crossover how do I turn off the crossover on an amp that does not have a bypass or an off button like the JP23 1.5 Elite or the jp23.
Can someone help me out, i am putting a system together as we speak, i basically have everything already, i am running a 2 chuchero which a basically boxes that look like a subwoofer box but instead of bass its for mids and high and they usually put them in the back seats, well anyway my question is how do i separate mids from highs, basically the boxes have 2 10inch speakers for mids that u can throw 3000watts to it and also has 2 tweeter type speakers that are for high only and cant handle all that power and i cant trow all that mid to them, how do i run mid to the 10s and highs to the highs, i was goin to run one amp with external eq to the 10s and another amp with external eq to the highs but that mean ill have to run 3 separate amps if i include the subwoofer…seems over complicated, anyway to simplify this setup?
I'm kind of surprised they still sell these, I mean everything has its application i suppose. However there is very little argument to be made for this product in particular. Especially given that you can get a 8ch dsp With push button presets for almost $100 less If you only need it for 4 channels a 4ch dsp is less than $50. Don't get me wrong I understand the cost it is in the hardware It is a lot more affordable to take the functionality of 25 Potentiometers and put in 1 chip digital for the win 🤷🏽♂️
I owned one, and for whatever reason, it made the bass sound SOOO much better it really was unbelievable at first. I am guessing due to the substantial increase in preout voltage you get this thing can give you up to 14v out.
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Personally i just like to use the amps cross-overs anymore. I used to use separate devices like that back in the late 90s, but these days plenty of amps have great built-in cross-overs.
I like bluetooth dsp's because I can choose specific hertz levels with no guess work or "close enough"
@@LottoDub720 which dsp do you recommend
@@DirtyKk look at the prv auido 2.8x it's an 8 channel so you can adjust every channel if you run 2 amps off of that DSP, it's the best cheap one but it doesn't have that Bluetooth so you'll have to adjust it by hand which isn't that bad after you set it up
I love the stetsom Bluetooth one. It's just a box no screen no nothing. Just Bluetooth use to adjust which keeps it cheap also.
I like how you were not trying to sell the unit. It’s for the heads that want SQ. The average listener doesn’t need it. You left it up to the consumer to decide if they think they need it. Natural salesman. Geat video.
When I got started in building systems in my cars years ago I always had an external crossover even though the amps usually had built in crossovers in them. People would aleays say " you don't need that, your amps have crossovers built in." I'd say i know that but i like mine with an external cause the quality and the bass is so much better.
In 2011 when i bought my Nissan brand new, after several months I decided to go aftermarket and rebuild my system again and I opted to try it without a crossover and just use the amps.
Right away i wasn't really impressed but i left it that way for several years. Then i upgraded again ftom 12s in a sealed box to 15s in a ported box, jumped up my subs amp and added a crossover and it was like putting the hat on Frosty The Snowman, instantly not just me but everyone who heard my system could hear how much cleaner it sounded on a whole. So now, I know I'll probably always have a crossover from now on but that's just me, I could just be strange or different.
The comment below makes a good point. But, what is important is that your amps match your speakers and sub frequency response. Often the amp's high or low pass crossovers will limit speaker performance because the crossover range does not match the speaker or sub. Having an active crossover like this usually gives you much broader range to dial in the correct frequencies from the high or low crossovers for your sub or speakers. Also having a strong signal (higher voltage via RCA cables) being sent to the amp will improve sound quality as well. There is a place for active crossovers, and it depends on the performance of your amplifier, and the different high and low pass filters available on it. (Ex. You have a subwoofer that has F.R. of 30Hz -250 Hz, but your amp's low pass filter has a limit of say 120Hz. Ideally you want an amp that can play that full 30Hz-250Hz range.) And given that most car amplifiers do not have Digital Optical input, using a DSP then sending that signal via RCA cables to your amp kinda defeats the purpose of a DSP. You can save some $$ but still get good sound quality using analog equipment, just make sure your wire connections are large enough to carry the full signal without any voltage drop/signal loss. Now go turn that shit up!
The more stuff that helps u tune ur sound the better!!! Good stuff jp.... when well u have equalizer??
I used to own one of these exact models. It made my bass sound SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better I didnt even believe it at first. As to why I think its just due to the super high preout voltage you get. He didnt say it in the video but this thing can give you up to 14v on the PREOUT LOW LEVELS
how do you bypass the crossover on the amp
@@594GS Just turn everything to the highest/lowest settings. Like subsonic highest, lowpass lowest. etc
Thanks, very practical explanation.
jon is shredded😮
What happened to your video giving your dad his new truck they took it down just letting you know
Crescendo Symphony S4 has all the cross over I need for my mids and highs. Has BPF and X10
I have the cross over mainly because my amp doesn't cross over up 5,000k for midrange on the band pass
I'd like to have one..
Mainly because I have a wall and my 4chan is in the back where I can't adjust anything while listening to it. Like you said having one on in the console or near could help in that type of situation.
I have a Audiocontrol crossover makes a huge difference
My question is how come most of these crossovers are just 2 channel not 4 channel input. You have front and back on the backing of the stereo for your RCA’s. But when you go to the crossover, it’s just one input left and right.
Boomersplaned it for me got some knowledge out of it for the new system buy.
Hi Sir. Thank you so much for posting the video.
Please advise. I can't get my subwoofer to produce 20Hz bass; it still has punchy bass, which I don't want.
Should I use an aftermarket cross over like "boss" to get the 20Hz wavy bass?
I have a 12 inch, 2000watt Pioneer sub in ported box (responsive to 20Hz) with a dedicated Pioneer mono block 1000Hz amp in my car. The remaining midranges and tweeters each have their own 6 channel pioneer amplifier. Finally, I have a graphic equalizer.
Please advise, sir, if I should get a cross over
I, and tune it to 20zHz ? I have tried using several graphic equalizers, but none of them had a 20Hz bass knob to enable this kind of bas.s
P lease advise, Thanks.
How big is the box? And what is the box tuned to?
Great video JP!!! 👍👍👍 What would be the difference between this product and say an AUDIO CONTROL DQDX DSP?? Which would be better to invest in and why, to help me make my decision as to which one to purchase for my install that I'm currently working on!!! Thank You for your help if its possible!!! ✌️✌️✌️
Audio control DQDx .the winner 🏆
which brands aren't muddy though?
Is this similar to the Audio Control 6XS?
Do I need an external one if I use coaxial 2 way American bass sq 6.5?
So if I used an active crossover such as this device to send a LPF setting at 80Hz to my mono sub amp would I keep the LPF crossover on the amp turned all the way up/open?
really quick if I want to use the crossover how do I turn off the crossover on an amp that does not have a bypass or an off button like the JP23 1.5 Elite or the jp23.
Awesome!
can someone tell me why and if one should use a dsp and eq? these eqs today have built in eq
So important
Can someone help me out, i am putting a system together as we speak, i basically have everything already, i am running a 2 chuchero which a basically boxes that look like a subwoofer box but instead of bass its for mids and high and they usually put them in the back seats, well anyway my question is how do i separate mids from highs, basically the boxes have 2 10inch speakers for mids that u can throw 3000watts to it and also has 2 tweeter type speakers that are for high only and cant handle all that power and i cant trow all that mid to them, how do i run mid to the 10s and highs to the highs, i was goin to run one amp with external eq to the 10s and another amp with external eq to the highs but that mean ill have to run 3 separate amps if i include the subwoofer…seems over complicated, anyway to simplify this setup?
What language was he speaking for the first 3 seconds?
Losing voltage while splitting RCA is a myth already debunked by sundown
No it's a real thing
crossover v equalizer...?
DSP and you get both
I'm kind of surprised they still sell these, I mean everything has its application i suppose. However there is very little argument to be made for this product in particular. Especially given that you can get a 8ch dsp With push button presets for almost $100 less If you only need it for 4 channels a 4ch dsp is less than $50. Don't get me wrong I understand the cost it is in the hardware It is a lot more affordable to take the functionality of 25 Potentiometers and put in 1 chip digital for the win 🤷🏽♂️
I owned one, and for whatever reason, it made the bass sound SOOO much better it really was unbelievable at first. I am guessing due to the substantial increase in preout voltage you get this thing can give you up to 14v out.
Im sorry jp but it sounds like you kinda dissed the product you were showing.
2 sa 12s or 1 x10?
There both good but I would say sa12
10s. 12s are overrused. Be different.
I do
Im sorry if it came across bad
Shouldn’t be like that at all
Good in way main shut add more bass wish
What the hell did I just read?
which way did they go brah