All Motor Base RSX Top 5 Build Mistakes

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  • @willalexander177
    @willalexander177 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I just put a 8th gen civic trans in my base. I recommend a 6 speed swap to any base owners. It Freed up some power.

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice!!

    • @musskeeterbump
      @musskeeterbump 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gear ratios on the 6 speed👌 worth it

    • @alansmilealot
      @alansmilealot 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yo how much are those trans going for and is it a straight swap????

    • @willalexander177
      @willalexander177 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For a 05-06 rsx the swap isn’t to hard since the vss are the same. 02-04 the case needs to be drilled to fit the vss. You will need a type s shift selector. Also a k tuned shifter cable bracket or drill the case and tap for the type s one. Also need a speed converter. Or change the ratios if you have k-pro.

    • @st3v3nb915
      @st3v3nb915 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What up! Did it rev higher with a 6speed trans??

  • @aaronp9835
    @aaronp9835 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I started from the ground up. Wheels from TL, rotors/pads, springs, anti rolls, clutch, cai,RH,exhuast,hondata etc. Weight reduced with a lightweight flywheel (rotational mass) beats any kind of interior stripping imo. The most important thing is a Hondata

    • @musshwins412
      @musshwins412 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      careful with hondata…… it can start an expensive habit.

  • @horacio1464
    @horacio1464 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Exactly my words. Especially that you need to tie all those things and details together, I'm doing it on my car and it works great, it's funny, agile, fast, but cheap and reliable.

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yup but people don't listen and end up spending thousands 😂

  • @itsnotseptember...
    @itsnotseptember... 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    YOU ARE THE TH-camR IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR! Just got a 06 base rsx tryna build it

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha well perfect, I hope I can help!!

    • @matthewayala6544
      @matthewayala6544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too bro just copped one for 1,000$

    • @matthewayala6544
      @matthewayala6544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      5 speed

  • @vtec3070
    @vtec3070 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad you're still out there bro, like seriously !!!

  • @4EverSuzuki
    @4EverSuzuki 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't help but laugh everytime I watch this video, that thing just pulls so hard lol.

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good bolt ons and it's okay, deff not the fastest thing on the streets

    • @robbie178991
      @robbie178991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's what internals will do stock internals from a different k series no way its stock a3 pistons and rods

  • @yardman0001
    @yardman0001 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I Love that RSX man... I'm thinking of getting coil-overs for my RSX, it's my daily , no track or auto cross or anything like that but it's tuned making 220whp. I've narrowed them down to Tein street advance Z or BC racing. The BC are almost twice the cost of the Teins tho. Which would you recommend ? Are the Teins any good seeing that they are 1/2 price of the BC's?

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you drive your car like a grandma and never speed or drive reckless get the Teins.... If you drive fast and push it and beat on the get the BC racing could or just get some custom coils built for cheaper than the BC's.

    • @joshuapierre4820
      @joshuapierre4820 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yardman0001 is it a base?

    • @king71442
      @king71442 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go with raceland coils

  • @davidthavi
    @davidthavi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First time on your channel, just subscribed. Good stuff 👌

  • @capitaldboy
    @capitaldboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    could you elaborate more on the “dial in” part? Wdym by dial in? sorry

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hit up the shop in the description and ask for me, I can go over it 101.

    • @vtec3070
      @vtec3070 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darehick I think he means that you have to tune it to your car, and break it in like when you get new mounts you have to break them in

    • @musshwins412
      @musshwins412 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      the hardest part of my build was tuning my suspension. I was worried about engine and tranny, mean while...…… suspension is laughing at me. "dialing in" would be getting all your parts to work together. which was pretty hard on my ep3.

  • @UnityLOLZ
    @UnityLOLZ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Inspired ! always love watching your vids

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks shoot some video ideas!!

  • @Ash222223560
    @Ash222223560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro your car is such an inspiration to what I’m tryna do wit my base, ima noob but ik what I kinda want. I got some questions tho, dm me

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hit up the shop in the description they can give you my contact info.

  • @tylerklapchar9967
    @tylerklapchar9967 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question.... I’m in the process of “building” my first ever k car.... 03 base rsx..... why does or did the key on your dash flash..... cause I have to swap my manual trans in.... but I found out I have no ecu so I run into the immobilizer problem.... how do I get around that?

    • @tylerklapchar9967
      @tylerklapchar9967 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also got any parts? Need an ecu 😂😂

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Call the shop they can get you what you need. I don't have any spare stuff laying around.

    • @tylerklapchar9967
      @tylerklapchar9967 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you know how to bypass the immobilizer without buying the unit from ktuned?

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shop might I don't

  • @luckycbr600rr
    @luckycbr600rr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey bro, I am telling you, you are 100% right... Thank you for the point out... currently still working on my k20a3 rsx 04.

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hope the build goes good for you! Lmk if you need help.

  • @chrisp7984
    @chrisp7984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got my rsx base not that long ago and the guy before me used it for track and took off the sway bars

  • @johnsmithqqq
    @johnsmithqqq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you took out all that plastic trim which weighs little, but you forgot to take out the glove box door.. that thing is so heavy, like 10 lbs..

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's cut though lol it's not 10lbs anymore.

  • @RudebwoyRacing
    @RudebwoyRacing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this just a base rsx with custom bolt ons and k pro or did you do a head swap or camshaft upgrade?

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stock head and stock cams, unopened A3 with 250k miles lol. Check the other videos.

    • @RudebwoyRacing
      @RudebwoyRacing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC502civic629 pretty excited to build a k this year. 🇯🇲 much love bro.

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RudebwoyRacing good luck!! If you have any questions let me know.

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@corruptonu2934 Type-S parts don't make good power on a base motor because they weren't designed for it. Imma say 150-157whp max.

    • @justincastro774
      @justincastro774 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC502civic629 it has 250k? My base has 246k and I’m scared to push it lol

  • @luevangalaska
    @luevangalaska 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much weight difference did it make before and after? Curious

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Before and after what?

    • @luevangalaska
      @luevangalaska 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC502civic629 after you stripped all the stuff off for weight reduction.

  • @musskeeterbump
    @musskeeterbump 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The base k20a3 really isn't bad at all .

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah its not if you run the right parts....

    • @sirhaney
      @sirhaney 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did a k20a2 head with full bolt ons- gearing isn’t there for 1-2 with the SI 5spd as well- 7800 redline (avoid 8 or above with the a3 block) and I’m putting around 220-230 wheel 93 octane

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or you could just buy good bolt ons and make that without a head swap lol

  • @smoovebangersproductions
    @smoovebangersproductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You using rbc intake manifold and you fabricated your own exhaust ?

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No got everything from the shop in the description.

  • @sargentcharly
    @sargentcharly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what was ur experience with skunk2

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about it?

    • @sargentcharly
      @sargentcharly 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      do u think skunk2 full bolt ons on a rsx types can put out 230whp? and is skunk 2 good quality

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah I wouldn't, custom bolt ons can make 250whp though on a type-s.

  • @rsxonprogress9488
    @rsxonprogress9488 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In putting a new motor in my rsx base what can i do to it so it can pull like you car and sound like your car when you floor it!

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Contact the shop in the description and run the same bolt ons I got from them, it will be identical then lol 😂

  • @hellabands7215
    @hellabands7215 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fuck wit it that shit be walkin niggas

  • @hakimdurand8427
    @hakimdurand8427 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean is there videos of you going through the removal of such things.....for weight reduction? I am getting a rsx possibly as my first car and just curious

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah look at my entire channel, every video is RSX based.

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      dont remove shit,this car is loud,hot and not as fast as you think.

  • @chadmonjackson7639
    @chadmonjackson7639 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoo you have and parts just bought a 06 base model and it’s a auto slow af I sold my Subaru Sti so it’s a down grade in speed in fun but I love my Honda’s so I’m back to square 1

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah look under my videos for a walk around I go over everything done to the car

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      why the fuck buy an auto,wtf?

  • @paulescoto9181
    @paulescoto9181 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is a good air fuel ratio on wide open throttle for the K series all motor?

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on your setup and fuel

  • @tankamerica1213
    @tankamerica1213 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a 07 k24a2 in my rsx I had a k20/k24 frank build before , I’m wanting to keep the k24 head but is the k20 head so much better ?

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on what you're using the car for and your budget. Because for you it might be worth it but for me it maybe a total waste. It's not a yes or no answer.

    • @purpsmoke4203
      @purpsmoke4203 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tank America k20a2 better at higher rpms, k24 for bottom end more compression

    • @tankamerica1213
      @tankamerica1213 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just bought a k20a2 head with drag cartel 2.2 cams n super tech valvetrain kit so gonna have a k20/k24 setup once again 🤙

    • @purpsmoke4203
      @purpsmoke4203 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tank America litttty post that shit up on insta or something I wanna see that, I just got a rsx type s I love it N/a but I was gonna do a full swap in my em2 but I never noticed how clean the dc5s really are

    • @tankamerica1213
      @tankamerica1213 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nate Cruz lol I never made a Instagram but add me on fb zach nos waltman my profile pic is a video of me next to a tank firing

  • @bseriesonlyhondasintegras1883
    @bseriesonlyhondasintegras1883 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im still building my DC4 Integra i have a b18c5 engine i have some coilovers just got it 8 months ago had sone transmission issue's dropped a new 1 in now im. Thinking about a turbo kit.......i was going to keep it N.A. it was rather fast......im just taking it slow so i dont do any unnecessary mods

  • @screwedupcivic2285
    @screwedupcivic2285 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have your base 5 sp or 6 sp???

  • @iyamon4826
    @iyamon4826 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i know this video old, but dude didnt' want to race you cuz he saw that go pro and stripped interior lmao, he knew what was about to happen

  • @vrtxs1938
    @vrtxs1938 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got a base rsx and I sold my vr6 I need to maker faster then my vr6

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's pretty easy honestly what's your budget?

    • @vrtxs1938
      @vrtxs1938 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DC502civic629 let’s just say low income budget 😂 anything cheap to make above 200

    • @vrtxs1938
      @vrtxs1938 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DC502civic629let’s just say low income budget 😂 I just want to know what I can do to make over 200hp

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vrtxs1938 okay just hit up the shop in the description they can get you to 200hp. That's where I got my parts from for my build.

    • @vrtxs1938
      @vrtxs1938 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DC502civic629 thanks man for sure

  • @darwinc4706
    @darwinc4706 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait the rsx doesn’t come with lsd?

    • @kylethegreat8222
      @kylethegreat8222 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct

    • @chad6876
      @chad6876 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, only the type s and type r has it

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Type-S don't come with LSD either, only the Type-R does.

  • @st3v3nb915
    @st3v3nb915 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you upgraded to a 6speed on the ep3

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah 5speed is better for boost

    • @glennaikens7904
      @glennaikens7904 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC502civic629 sounds like the ep3 was born for boost

  • @navi0822
    @navi0822 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video! I just struggle with rim and tire sizes. I know that I want some rpf1s that are 17x9, but then I see the rest of the chart and see the offset and such and idk I panic and don't pull the trigger on it. I just don't wish to buy something and have it not fit or buy it and have it fit and then try to upgrade the brakes and it doesn't fit anymore. I think that is the biggest struggle for me. Thank you for the video and tips. Keep them coming!

    • @nismor3490
      @nismor3490 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ivan Morales 17x9 +35 is what i think he runs. Meaty fitment i have mine on order for my ep3

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well what brakes are you putting on it? Do that first. Or just hit up the shop, they can tell you what size you need to order with the brakes.

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I run 17x9 +35 and 17x9 +22

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FIY 17x9 +35 or +22 won't fit on my EP3 so I hope you see this before you order wheels lol

    • @navi0822
      @navi0822 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback! I am still looking into everything, but seeing what other people run helps out a lot. It gives much more feed back than looking at the numbers at a chart. As always, thank you man even if your replies are very short they still help out a lot xD

  • @RedrumCvmlcs
    @RedrumCvmlcs 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the car man and have nothing but respect for hondas, but why do they all sound like beehives. Even the K24 is still really raspy. This is an actual question. Great video man

    • @aaronp9835
      @aaronp9835 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carlo Castillo the correct header/ exhaust combo solves that

    • @musskeeterbump
      @musskeeterbump 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because 16 valves + inline 4 cylinder + 2 liters = rasp

    • @srecar6
      @srecar6 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sideways G any suggestion the type of combo?

  • @allmotordc5rallmotorfa575
    @allmotordc5rallmotorfa575 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor lil ej20.. Lmao so sad how slow thy really are to a very nicely done a3. Still tryin to get my a3 to perform a lil more. Got a k24a2 jus sittin (06-08 tsx) jus dont wanna give up on tha a3. She runs right with my s atm but still needs more lol

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not giving up on mine till it blows. I said that 7 years ago and it's still going strong as hell

    • @allmotordc5rallmotorfa575
      @allmotordc5rallmotorfa575 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC502civic629 i watch ur vids alot an ur base is a beast. Uve got ur setup just right lol for real man hella props on makin an a3 tht mean.

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha she's simple and strong

    • @allmotordc5rallmotorfa575
      @allmotordc5rallmotorfa575 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC502civic629 she a bad lil bish haha

  • @trevyfilms728
    @trevyfilms728 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inspired by you to get a rsx fham

  • @user-pwfus
    @user-pwfus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:35 Do not feel bad for the car because when it breaks it will not feel bad 4 u lmao

  • @TheDerrty111
    @TheDerrty111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats the BASE model??

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah check out my other videos

  • @starving4money
    @starving4money 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The moment i saw the wrx i already knew he/she ain't wanna race 😅🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @ZplexSlays
    @ZplexSlays 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is LSD

  • @AdamSealey93
    @AdamSealey93 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What exhaust you got on rsx?

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Custom header and exhaust from the shop in the description

  • @vteckid82
    @vteckid82 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's a base RSX motor!? Holy shit, I had no idea you could get decent power from that motor

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah its because everyone runs the wrong bolt ons for it

    • @BoriHonda
      @BoriHonda ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC502civic629what are the right bolt ons if you still remember?

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BoriHonda Brought full bolts from the shop in the description

  • @masteryang890
    @masteryang890 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    First mistake is a base rsx lol

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's faster than most type-s so I'm not mad lol

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toulor1316 lol i only have a couple hundred invested because I'm only bolt ons lol

    • @johndc2998
      @johndc2998 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3k for a base or 7k for a type S.

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC502civic629 not really,you spend bank to get what the s already has.

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I spent $800 on my car so far lol 😂

  • @OfficialDMVboyz
    @OfficialDMVboyz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nigga you still got the Rsx? I’m fucking weak, you still got the same number?

  • @Datboi_qwe
    @Datboi_qwe 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    U have social media?

  • @jimmybrown841
    @jimmybrown841 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, how’s the best way to get ahold of you? What’s your email?

  • @AznSway
    @AznSway ปีที่แล้ว

    so your listing all the build mistakes u made. and proceeded to explain the pros about it

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess did you watch the video

    • @AznSway
      @AznSway ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC502civic629 yuh and i was staring at the caption

  • @Ydoc1000
    @Ydoc1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No way that’s a stock a3 head and cams

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup custom bolt ons make more power than the regular off the self ones.

  • @Datboi_qwe
    @Datboi_qwe 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bold head Scally wag yo rsx is bad👌🏾

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol just a weak base model trying to be cool lol

  • @Onelovej
    @Onelovej 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought that was a Ludicrous video lol

  • @lucifersatan8040
    @lucifersatan8040 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    FIRST!!! I LOVE THE RSX

  • @RoyTheBoy_yt
    @RoyTheBoy_yt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro your base is faster than my type s lol

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha probably is!!

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      add a header and exhaust,a tune and if you are brave an ebay turbo and intercooler.then enjoy the 300-400 horsepower......

    • @king71442
      @king71442 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      trillrif axegrindor how reliable would the turbo be on a daily rsx

  • @davidramone3687
    @davidramone3687 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the k20a3 stock handle boost?

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah look my second car I'm building k20a3 turbo

    • @davidramone3687
      @davidramone3687 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      DC502civic629 also please upload more love watching your vids it inspires me to keep my RSX . you got it man ! :)

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Give me some ideas!!

    • @vtec3070
      @vtec3070 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      DC502civic629 you should do auto cross or get sponsored.. I'm not sure how all that works but explaining little details on the base and going over things that most people wouldn't know. I'm still getting into cars and I'm struggling lol. Keep it up tho !

    • @srecar6
      @srecar6 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Supposedly the a3 and a2 share the same bottom end housing just different pistons....or something like that. So i would say yes

  • @seanlemmeadventure1216
    @seanlemmeadventure1216 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh you look like ludacris's son lmaoo

  • @dartbulos6444
    @dartbulos6444 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What you have done to your engine man???? F... fast!!!

    • @DC502civic629
      @DC502civic629  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Custom bolt ons from the shop in the description