2010 Golf GTD FIXED No Comms Non Start Immobiliser - Gateway Module Fault/Location
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2021
- Original symptoms of the car in this video: • 2010 MK6 Golf GTD Star...
Faulty part identified after a comment on the original video.
Starting then cutting out immediately.
No communication from OBD port.
Fuse 1 blown in the dashboard fuse box.
Speedo not lighting up when opening drivers door.
Location of Gateway Module appears to be different on the GTI and GTD models. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Mate been working on vw 17 years and not had this issue until today a mk6 come with same issues and the first thing that sprung to mind was this module! Top man too video top content.
Bro I can’t thank you enough all thanks to you my car back on road going for a test drive today at 6 can’t bludy wait 🎉 respect mate 👊
Glad to help, hope it’s all good 👍
@@IAMASPANNER bro my instrument cluster is not working at all. Was yours working?
@@IAMASPANNER does it need to be like for like
The gateway module
Mines is a 1.4 tsi mk 6
Auto
Can I get one from scrap yard and replace without re coding?
Just had a RAC guy come to check my car and he did find that the gateway module had water in it. Is there any way to prevent condensation to build up again? Something like a desiccant (silica) bag or similar ?
Great video 👍👍👍
Thanks a lot for such great information!
Fascinating troubleshooting, thanks for making this video! Crazy how badly condensation eroded those chip connections on the PC board. I would've thought that VW would have put some sort of protective shellac or other coating on it, but it looks (based on the extensive corrosion) that there was no protective layer at all.
Thanks my golf done 6 months not find problem now ready
Glad to help!
Thats perfect,been trying to locate Tcross 1.0 tsi gateway module,any idea where is located.
Great info!!!
I've had the same problem and replaced the gateway, car now starts and runs but got ABS, traction control, and handbrake light flashing on dash so need help coding, any body any to help with long coding using VCDS.
i got the radio but nothing else works. could this be the problem
I have a mk 5 golf r32 I'm experiencing all these issues have gutted my car out as the sunroof has been leaking into the car causing the water to hit my footwells I've dried the car out pulled body control unit out to dry it water not really affecting plugs or wires driver door not locking with key now car will not lock with key as immobiliser has set in changed all fuses still no difference codes I am getting are U0155 U0164 U0146 U0146 drivers side mirror will not fold indicator on wing mirror not working red steering wheel light on, 3 beeps, airbag light, oil pressure warning , ABS and handbrake red light on , I'm so glad I have come across this video as I've had a mechanic look at my car and is dumbfounded will pull the gateway module replace it and see how I get on, will update you with progress
I look forward to hearing your progress, good luck!
Funny as I opened up the gateway and there was water in there as I pulled it apart the plug had green on it and water around the circuit board inside let it all dry out plugged back in and the car is now running still a few lights on but I’m guessing once I can get someone to put there computer on it should all go central locking not working with key but I’m hoping fingers crossed it goes when the codes are cleared I can’t thank you enough as if I had never seen your video I wouldn’t of know that was there atleast she’s now RUNNING 🙏 thank you again
@@JustKrazee that’s great news, so glad it worked for you. I’d get the module changed though, the solder joints will have weakened from the water.
I have the same problem with gateway module on a vw eos,my question is was your replacement gateway from a breaker or did you have to get unit programed to the car? Thank you norrie
Bought the part online. The unit does need “coding” but only to tell it which options are fitted to the car. It’s not a case of it needs coding to allow the car to work at all.
thank you going and try
Thanks this video really helped and thanks to the guy who told you in the first place
My golf 11 1.4 tsi was doing this
Brought off Auction
Was parked up for a month or so before hand
Thought I brought a dud car
It’s crazy - never heard of this condensation fault ever
Think VW have realised they have put this module in the wrong location
But I’m glad I found these videos
Glad to help, thanks for the comment, hope your car is sorted now!
Shout out from South Africa the video helped fix my car and helped me save a lot of cash my golf 6 tsi 1.4 was doing the same thing
@@blessingmakhura4244 that’s great! Thanks for the comment, glad to help!
Hi there I have the exact same problem and was wondering if I can get any other golf mk 6 gateway module and replace it?
Or does it need to be like for like?
And did you have to reprogram it?
Reprogram it
Nice one
Do you have to programme the new gate way module?
Only if the fitted options are different on the replacement part such as parking sensors and sunroof.
@Tolly Swift can you please come up with a short background history of what was going on with the car that led you to that stage of replacing the immobolizer
I bought the car as a non runner, I thought it was going to be the cluster which is a common fault but wasn't convinced so I posted a video of the problems and someone very kindly commented that if the dash doesn't light up when you open the door it's probably the gateway module.
Did you need to have new gateway module programmed to get it to run ??
No programming required. The only programming you would have to do on the module is the options your car may have such as heated seats or parking sensors.
Hi do the module part numbers have to match or same year range will be fine?
The part number has to match bar the letter at the end of the part number.
@@IAMASPANNER hi, so technically I could get any module that has the same number but a different letter? VW is struggling to find a component and I am tempted to get that part in myself
So did the instrument panel clocks you sent away have a fault or not?
Or was it this gateway module the problem.
Clocks were fine, I didn’t send them off because when I found water in the gateway module I knew it wasn’t the common fault with the clocks.
So you googled possible fault source and came up with gateway module.Just great when others share their knowledge and experience.@@IAMASPANNER
how did you get the black cover on mines stuck on even after the bolts are off
I guess you’ll have got it by now, it’s just a rubber seal, it can be pretty stuck the first time of removal but it will come off.
Cheers mate got my new module in it starts however ecm and engine management comes on rad pack shakes aswell
Also it gets no comma fault often
Bro do you know the location of the gateway module on a seat Alhambra 2011 model? I'm having the same issue however it's intermittent. Also do the module need reprogramming?
Ask someone with Autodata to take a look or check the forums. I’d hazard a guess it’ll be somewhere similar either under or over the steering column but in reality it could be anywhere on your car.
Just found out mine is supposed to be above the clutch pedal underneath the steering. However mine starts now and then the message comes up, also lots 9f other errors.
@@thebelal1984 it’s worth a check anyway, could still be a similar issue
@@IAMASPANNER bro do you know the new gateway module you got was it the same part number as the one that was already on?
@@thebelal1984 yes, I think the only difference was the letter on the end of the part number.
Glad you sorted it! Where did you order the unit from? Is it the same for GTI models?
£22 on eBay, I don’t know if it’s same part number for GTI but I think it’s in the same place.
@@IAMASPANNER I just opened the bonnet on the car in question and I’m only assuming it’s in same location as yours. It’s an 11plate GTI (petrol obviously) was it a bugger getting all the covers and wiper off ect? Before I order it I’m obviously going to check the module for damage like yours. We drove back in heavy rain after the Windsscrean being replaced 5 days prior. My theory being water has got into it due it’s location under the window. What’d you think? Plausibel?
@@Curt_Smith The wiper motor is awkward to remove and get back in, wiper arms may be seized to the spline so you'll need a special tool. I can't say yes or no because every car could be different but if your OBD port isn't working same as mine then it's likely. There's a link to the original symptoms in the description.
@@IAMASPANNER OBT port being the connection for VAGCOM/Diagnostics? Because yeah, if so I couldn’t get it to communicate with the car. Kept saying error and can’t connect
@@IAMASPANNER managed to get to mine. Absolutely soaked!!! Just got to find a replacement module. I need 530H or 530Ak as apparently AK is now the replacement for 530H ebay has everything but
I’m having instrument cluster issues too.
95k miles on the car.
Dealership says I need a new instrument cluster. When it was throwing all those warning lights. They charged me $167 for the diagnostic. However the car was still running. (When it wanted to start)
Now the car doesn’t even start.
It’s a MK6 Golf Base 2.5
I have a cold air intake and Catback exhaust.
And this issue first appeared because because I noticed the hose on the cold air intake I believe the MAF had popped off.
I zip tied it back up and the problem with the instrument cluster went away.
Now it’s back.
This Gateway Modul may be what’s wrong with it.
I need help too.
I have the same problem with my 2012 Beetle Turbo. Is it a CAN Gateway problem or instrument cluster problem? Did you find a solution?
So i have a golf6 2009. And the instrument cluster is not working and when i start the car the engine runs for a second and stops. Was ur issue the same as mine?
There’s sometimes an issue with the Speedo but mine was different. Mine the OBD port wouldn’t work and when you opened the door the clocks didn’t light up and show the mileage.
@@IAMASPANNER mine too. I open the doors and nothing(mileage,clock even the petrol meter dead).
Thanks for the reply bro!!
@@LiverpoolFC9424 sounds like it might be the same problem, hope you get sorted!
@@LiverpoolFC9424 I have the same problem what you do with this?
Was u just getting no communication at all with gateway and cluster lights but no start? This is what i have no communication with ecu or anything
Yes exactly as the video.
My same golf 6 is not communicating when is being diagnosed...the computer box was bypassed as the car was not starting now its starting but...there is no communication when diagnosing it only picks gearbox but engine what so ever not picking up.. some electronics such as windows not opening.. cluster only petrol communication..speed .rev count not working...can the gateway be an issue here
I have the same problem with my 2012 Beetle Turbo. Is it a CAN Gateway problem or instrument cluster problem? Did you find a solution?
Only way to know is check the gateway module and see if it has water in it. If it doesn’t then it’s likely to be something else.
Thanks you my golf back in road 6 months not find problem now done
Mate, thanks for the video I had the same problem! Inspected gateway module and was full of water. I replaced it and car worked fine for 2 weeks until same problem repeated. Checked the gateway and was waterlogged again! So now I'm at wits end trying to find leaks. Do you believe it's just condensation???
PS mines a mk6 golf. No sunroof, clear drains, no sign of leaking windscreen, no sign of water inside car.. also, the liquid inside the gateway module was a bit cloudy and had the antifreeze/washer smell but can't detect a leak in my windscreen washer hose. - plus the module is protected by the panel anyway. Very strange. The foam surrounding the gateway module cavity was wet though..
@@73jayzee hi, my golf is going through the same and it is being sorted in a VW dealership (at a significant cost) did you manage to find what caused the water damage?
@@jaimeTF think it must have been rainwater getting in there somehow. let us know what VW tell you!
@@73jayzee thanks, did you fix what caused the water ingress in yours ?
@@jaimeTF i think rainwater was getting under the plastic trim at the base of the widscreen, and then getting behind the panel and somehow into the gateway module case. so i replaced the module and bagged it up and taped it in situ. I also sealed the panel with tape and made sure the trim was down securely. this was a month ago and its been fine since
My golf mk6 is either not starting (in the morning only) or starting with all warning lights on since two months in which it rained every single day and the humidity is always high. Odb scan once showed 01317 instrument cluster control module no signal and 00474 immobilizer no signal. May it be a condensation on one of this? For all this time solution was either disconnect battery for a while or remove f1/f2 fuses and then put it back. This way it starts and then following starts of the day are just fine although sporadically warning lights are on.
Im having the same issue rn
Have you found the fix yet
@@Baws-vh8si rains stopped since two days and rainy season is over. Sympmtoms are better. I will observe in following days and know if the theory may be true.
No rains these days but same symptoms. Opened the gateway there was no condensation and no corrosion at all. As disconnecting and reconnecting battery solves the problem and it keeps repeating every morning now the only explanation would be that there is a cycle (24 hours maybe?) that triggers the problem again and again. Scan errors showing many codes is not leading to a clue. Are gateway, immobilizer and can bus interchangeable terms?
@@i_saurini I have the same problem with my 2012 Beetle Turbo. Is it a CAN Gateway problem or instrument cluster problem? Did you find a solution?
I have a mk6 gti been having this problem for a long time i have the can bus inside the car no sunroof and it doesn’t have corrosion
Car wont start when its cold
And also it doesn’t read the obd2
I could drive it and then my cluster act crazy but car wont turn off when am driving
Sounds familiar, have you checked the gateway module? I hope you get sorted!
Same here. Have you figured what the problem was ??
I have the same problem with my 2012 Beetle Turbo. Is it a CAN Gateway problem or instrument cluster problem? Did you find a solution?
has anyone anything like this with a passat of the same era ????