I'm an instructor at a couple of local RC clubs. Most clubs in the UK require members to obtain the BMFA A certificate before they can fly alone, it basically shows that someone is safe to fly and can put the plane where they want it to go, but for the flying part of the certificate you are not allowed to have a gyro switched on. I use gyro's in a few of my power and slope gliders, I think they are useful, they smooth things out and actually make the planes faster on stabilization only. There's 3 modes, off, stabilization and auto level (safe mode). In stabilization mode it reduces the effect of the wind and smooths the flight out, but you still have to fly the plane using all the controls. In auto level, when you move the sticks it puts the plane to that attitude and keeps it there till the sticks go back to the middle. When flying in off or stabilization mode you need to bank the plane, bring the sticks back towards the middle feed in a bit of up elevator and balance it around the turn, a co-ordinated turn. I've had students who have started flying by themselves on auto level and have taken weeks to get out of the habit of just pushing the stick over and expecting it to turn, and can't understand why it's going into a spiral dive towards the ground. I find that most complete novices get the hang of flying and turning fairly well after 3 or 4 flights, and after about 10 flights generally I don't have to intervene much with the buddy box Don't get me wrong, I think gyro's great, and in stabilization mode are very useful to allow the student pilots to fly when the wind would be a bit too challenging for them to fly without it. I think if you wish to learn to fly, find an instructor, and only use the auto level on a panic switch once you're off the buddy box.
@@markjohnson5137 Hi Mark thanks for your valid information. Unfortunately I disagree on needing an instructor especially when starting out with a little park flyer that weights next to nothing. I feel that it takes a lot of fun out of it. With that being said we do still need instructors especially when going straight to bigger planes yes definitely and at a proper flying field but I'm all for the fun of it and getting people to experience it straight up in a safe manner the seriousness is what is turning people away from it when the end game is to have fun life is already serious enough. And when I do fly bigger planes it is at a proper flying field with the right safety procedures. And as for safe mode that for explaining it a lot better then I did you explained it very well and I appreciate your help and input. 🙌
Howdy Mate! I started with a 6 channel radio that had dual rates, channel reversing and trim only. Rigging my first plane to fly well was a big part of learning in RC Modeling. All the new stuff that has come out since back then is Great! I have had a lot more fun and crashed a lot more stuff; would not have missed it for the world. However, rigging any plane improperly and thinking you can solve this by using the radio has made for some Great Videos! The really big complex plane crashes are my favorite. We are not getting away from the Tech in RC today and I could fly any plane in safe mode and have fun, but we all know where that would go. What we need to do is just teach new RC flyers to fly the plane - they don't need to know any of the tech behind it at all. They first just need to learn how to fly. They need RC Milk - not Meat. Start at the beginning and not at the end...
@@chuckhoward3626 Hi Chuck thanks for the input and thank you for sharing your Journey I appreciate this a lot and wanted other people's opinion on this. I full agree I'm all for the journey and learning safe mode in my opinion isn't properly flying but it has its purpose and when I first started saved me a few times that is why I tell people use it at the very start but don't get in a habit if you want to have some serious flying fun non the less there is no right or wrong to me just have fun with it however you need to buy keep it safe cheers mate and happy flying. 🙌
@@bobbybangura5016 it should be assigned to a switch and how to tell is pick the plane up and move it around see if the control surfaces are moving if they are it is still in safe
@@RiversBorg Hi mate to be honest if you are going to be flying by yourself to start with I wouldn't recommend this. I would start with something a bit smaller until you get the hang of it the Arrows Pioneer 620mm is great and a lot light and you can fly in smaller areas. For your second plane once comfortable I would say yes.
everyone one is going to crash regardless if you have safe mode or not, but at least by having it and saving yourself from a crash from time to time it will deter a lot of people from dismissing the hobby in general from the expense. stabilsation systems in real planes have been around for a while so this technology makes sense that it comes into the rc world. Take the new Spektrum AR20410T 20-Channel PowerSafe Receiver with Synapse AS3X+ and SAFE Stabilization Modules for all control surfaces, and hellis have used gyros for years, as i used to on my old hirobo shuttle, and now they have safe/recovery or gps systems on them. Ita a hobby not a job and its supposed to be fun, if the old guard cant handle it thats their problem and they can get stuffed, or the next time they crash you may end up reminding them it wouldnt have happened if they had safe or at least as3x system in their plane.
@@criminal__8615 Thanks for your thoughts on this topic I 100 percent agree it's all about the fun I was just asking the question. Because I started out flying with no one to help me and without the safe mode I would of crashed straight up so it did help me get in the air without crashing straight away. But after watch more video I understand the safe mode was only the if needed for the certain reason so I eventually learnt to fly without because I knew it was the real way of flying and it doesn't compare. At the end of the day there may be someone out there that is happy just cruising around with it on and if that makes them happy good for them and for the ones that don't good for them too it's all personal preference and about having fun and what that looks like to each person is done I know I am having the time of my life. Cheers for your input. 🙌
I'm an instructor at a couple of local RC clubs. Most clubs in the UK require members to obtain the BMFA A certificate before they can fly alone, it basically shows that someone is safe to fly and can put the plane where they want it to go, but for the flying part of the certificate you are not allowed to have a gyro switched on. I use gyro's in a few of my power and slope gliders, I think they are useful, they smooth things out and actually make the planes faster on stabilization only. There's 3 modes, off, stabilization and auto level (safe mode). In stabilization mode it reduces the effect of the wind and smooths the flight out, but you still have to fly the plane using all the controls. In auto level, when you move the sticks it puts the plane to that attitude and keeps it there till the sticks go back to the middle. When flying in off or stabilization mode you need to bank the plane, bring the sticks back towards the middle feed in a bit of up elevator and balance it around the turn, a co-ordinated turn. I've had students who have started flying by themselves on auto level and have taken weeks to get out of the habit of just pushing the stick over and expecting it to turn, and can't understand why it's going into a spiral dive towards the ground. I find that most complete novices get the hang of flying and turning fairly well after 3 or 4 flights, and after about 10 flights generally I don't have to intervene much with the buddy box Don't get me wrong, I think gyro's great, and in stabilization mode are very useful to allow the student pilots to fly when the wind would be a bit too challenging for them to fly without it.
I think if you wish to learn to fly, find an instructor, and only use the auto level on a panic switch once you're off the buddy box.
@@markjohnson5137 Hi Mark thanks for your valid information. Unfortunately I disagree on needing an instructor especially when starting out with a little park flyer that weights next to nothing. I feel that it takes a lot of fun out of it. With that being said we do still need instructors especially when going straight to bigger planes yes definitely and at a proper flying field but I'm all for the fun of it and getting people to experience it straight up in a safe manner the seriousness is what is turning people away from it when the end game is to have fun life is already serious enough. And when I do fly bigger planes it is at a proper flying field with the right safety procedures. And as for safe mode that for explaining it a lot better then I did you explained it very well and I appreciate your help and input. 🙌
Howdy Mate! I started with a 6 channel radio that had dual rates, channel reversing and trim only. Rigging my first plane to fly well was a big part of learning in RC Modeling. All the new stuff that has come out since back then is Great! I have had a lot more fun and crashed a lot more stuff; would not have missed it for the world. However, rigging any plane improperly and thinking you can solve this by using the radio has made for some Great Videos! The really big complex plane crashes are my favorite.
We are not getting away from the Tech in RC today and I could fly any plane in safe mode and have fun, but we all know where that would go. What we need to do is just teach new RC flyers to fly the plane - they don't need to know any of the tech behind it at all. They first just need to learn how to fly. They need RC Milk - not Meat. Start at the beginning and not at the end...
@@chuckhoward3626 Hi Chuck thanks for the input and thank you for sharing your Journey I appreciate this a lot and wanted other people's opinion on this. I full agree I'm all for the journey and learning safe mode in my opinion isn't properly flying but it has its purpose and when I first started saved me a few times that is why I tell people use it at the very start but don't get in a habit if you want to have some serious flying fun non the less there is no right or wrong to me just have fun with it however you need to buy keep it safe cheers mate and happy flying. 🙌
I like to fly with SAFE especially when flying expensive planes.
@@bobbybangura5016 absolutely Bobby I'm all for that and I think that's where it shines. 👍
Nice vid. How do you get out of safe? Trying but my inputs continue to stall me.
@@bobbybangura5016 it should be assigned to a switch and how to tell is pick the plane up and move it around see if the control surfaces are moving if they are it is still in safe
@@mitchcooperRC Thank you! Merry Christmas
@@bobbybangura5016 Thank you Merry Christmas to you I will make a video on this very soon.
Fly how u want. U paid for it and if ur having fun that’s all that matters.
@@artsmodelstation9396 Good point mate I agree with that too it's all about having fun at the end of the day. 👍
Would you recommend this for my first plane cheers mate
@@RiversBorg Hi mate to be honest if you are going to be flying by yourself to start with I wouldn't recommend this. I would start with something a bit smaller until you get the hang of it the Arrows Pioneer 620mm is great and a lot light and you can fly in smaller areas. For your second plane once comfortable I would say yes.
Went with the hobby zone apprentice cheers
@RivkBorg They are a good plane just give yourself plenty of room when flying you will do great. 👍
everyone one is going to crash regardless if you have safe mode or not, but at least by having it and saving yourself from a crash from time to time it will deter a lot of people from dismissing the hobby in general from the expense.
stabilsation systems in real planes have been around for a while so this technology makes sense that it comes into the rc world. Take the new Spektrum AR20410T 20-Channel PowerSafe Receiver with Synapse AS3X+ and SAFE Stabilization Modules for all control surfaces, and hellis have used gyros for years, as i used to on my old hirobo shuttle, and now they have safe/recovery or gps systems on them.
Ita a hobby not a job and its supposed to be fun, if the old guard cant handle it thats their problem and they can get stuffed, or the next time they crash you may end up reminding them it wouldnt have happened if they had safe or at least as3x system in their plane.
@@criminal__8615 Thanks for your thoughts on this topic I 100 percent agree it's all about the fun I was just asking the question. Because I started out flying with no one to help me and without the safe mode I would of crashed straight up so it did help me get in the air without crashing straight away. But after watch more video I understand the safe mode was only the if needed for the certain reason so I eventually learnt to fly without because I knew it was the real way of flying and it doesn't compare. At the end of the day there may be someone out there that is happy just cruising around with it on and if that makes them happy good for them and for the ones that don't good for them too it's all personal preference and about having fun and what that looks like to each person is done I know I am having the time of my life. Cheers for your input. 🙌