You asked for input. Here is mine: Optimum speed = .8 - 1.2 mph. Do yourself a favor and get yourself a 6 ft drift sock. Red, Pink and Orange are good colors to use. Kokanee mainly eat plankton. (look in their mouth and see the raker filters). Keep your baits SMALL. Yours are far too big and get rid of that second hook. Your offering is too long. Use the mini Hootchies. Kokanee do eat small fish but not often. Larger minnows damage their rakers making it impossible for them to filter the water. They will only do that if there is nothing else for them to eat. They do not live long after that happens. Kokanee only get 4 years old. Then the spawn and die like most salmon. Your bait needs to have side to side action. A small dodger can do that for you if your bait has no action of its own. Keep the leader short between the two (6 -8 inches). If your bait has its own action you will need a longer leader, so they don't cancel each other out. You are spot on with the temp. 52 -54. The Fish Hawk is a great tool. It will also help you find the thermocline in summer. Fido plankton get trapped in the thermocline (they are plants and do not swim). Zoo plankton eat Fido plankton. They can swim but just a little. Kokanee eat Zoo plankton. So... find the thermocline = finding Kokanee. Spring and Winter has no thermocline. Just go by temp then. In spring the Kokanee will be near the surface because that is where the plankton is after winter. Just drag a long line (100 yards or so) behind the boat. Good luck.
WOW, This has got to be one of my best comments ive ever gotten! 1st off thank you so much for taking the time to send this. It is packed full of a ton of valuble information that I will 100% put to work and hopfully come out with more fish in the box! Thank you so much I will disect this whole comment and go to work!
Everything except ditch the second hook.....double snelled singles are the way to go....we have 10 acres at Bridge lake up in the Cariboo ....they get up to,8 lbs up there....rare though but 4 to 5 pounders aren't uncommon
I've got a sister in Sagle who I'll be taking fishing out of Garfield first part of April. My cousin out of Rathdrum and I fish CDA & Ponderay quite often. I'm also going to try for Kokes on Hayden Lake for the first time.@@walkingonwaterfishing
That sounds like an an awesome trip!Are you guys chasing Kams? Hayden Lake is a great place to catch kokanee its been one of my favorites for a long time! Good luck to you out there!@@anglersnw
Yes, we are hoping to hook into a few Kamloops as well as Land Locked Chinook in CDA Lake. Looking forward to fishing Hayden also for Kokes.@@walkingonwaterfishing
After kokanee fishing for 50 years I've found kokes bite at temps of 52° to 60°, depending on time of day & time of year. Trolling speed can depend on style of dodger-- skateboard design dodgers work well at 1.2 mph while sling blade dodgers usually work best at 1.4 to 1.7 mph, depending on what type of lure you are using.
That’s some solid information brother! I did a video where I filmed Kokanee dodgers and lures under water so I could see what the reaction to diff speeds were it’s pretty cool!
Very good points! I think at 25 hp your boat is a little overpowered for kokanee. My 13 footer has a 15 hp and I have to slow it down too, usually by dragging a 5 gallon bucket behind the boat. I have found that wind permitting, rowing the boat can be really effective because of the slow speed and pulsing action-also makes no noise. My two fav western WA lakes have cooled down for kokanee, it may be because bass anglers have illegally introduced smallmouth bass into them. I tried Paulina Lake in Oregon 2 years ago and the scenery and fish size were good. Locally I have been fishing Riffe Lake for landlocked coho using standard kokanee gear but you can troll a little faster - 2 mph.
Thank you! Yeah the 25 is definitely too much for the boat and with the trolling plate it vibrates pretty good so I just use a lot longer set backs for Kokanee. Yeah 15hp is still pretty big for Kokanee trolling. Yeah one way to absolutely destroy a good sport fishing population is to introduce a bunch of invasive species to the lake! That’s fantastic good scenery and good fish you can’t beat that. Are the coho pretty good sized on riffe?
I have fished Kokanee for 40 years,big Kokanee,small Kokanee.I troll 1.5 to 1.8 I don’t really pay attention I can look at my gear and see how it looks and know the speed is right.I only use a chrome sling blade and a pink hootchie .Water temp ,early season Kokanee are shallow them they get deeper.I don’t care about temperature just run my gear where I see Kokanee on my fish finder.I use dyed corn or pink Berkeley maggots with mikes scent.I use 6.5 ft cheap fiberglass rods with big line counter reels 10 lb mono ,I use the same rods for crank baits walleyes and lake trout.I live by flaming gorge and strawberry in Utah catch big Kokanee not those shakers in Idaho.look up lake records at those 2 lakes
Oh I’ve seen fish from both of those lakes they produce monsters. That’s fantastic information. I’ve gone to chasing the schools as well makes my day way more productive.
Good info, but speed depends a lot on Kokanee size and time of the year. Here in SW Idaho our Kokanee average about 15", with fish reaching up to 22". Bigger fish are stronger and faster, especially as you get into May and June. I do best often around 1.7mph.
Is a 25 horse four stroke but I actually went and got a trolling plate that brings me down to 1 mile an hour otherwise I would have to run 2 30 inch drift socks
@@walkingonwaterfishing Thank you very much I have a trolling plate and tried it but my 25 horse Yamaha 4 stroke motor seems to vibrate my 14' Aluminum boat That's why I was thinking about trolling socks Thanks again
Yeah! So mine does the same it vibrates so i dont go above 1.2mph alos when i get that vibration i set my gear back way farther in the water like 50-60 ft back so the boat does not scare all the kokanee away from my gear! @@jeffthrower4981
An electric trolling motor is a great option for kokanee. Often they’ll want even slower, like .8mph, which is easy with a trolling motor. Not to mention it’s so much quieter.
@@Fairdemand554 I couldnt agree more! I have one but it drains my battery in 4 hours im looking into a lithium battery one day when i win the lotto hahaha or my wife says yes ;) idk which will come 1st
A good tip: kokanee are schooling fish. When you mark kokanee on your fish finder or when you catch some, mark that spot on your fish finder and continue to loop back through that school. Also, make lots of turns. The turn will speed up/slow down your inner and outer presentations and will cause the followers to strike.
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You asked for input. Here is mine: Optimum speed = .8 - 1.2 mph. Do yourself a favor and get yourself a 6 ft drift sock. Red, Pink and Orange are good colors to use. Kokanee mainly eat plankton. (look in their mouth and see the raker filters). Keep your baits SMALL. Yours are far too big and get rid of that second hook. Your offering is too long. Use the mini Hootchies. Kokanee do eat small fish but not often. Larger minnows damage their rakers making it impossible for them to filter the water. They will only do that if there is nothing else for them to eat. They do not live long after that happens. Kokanee only get 4 years old. Then the spawn and die like most salmon.
Your bait needs to have side to side action. A small dodger can do that for you if your bait has no action of its own. Keep the leader short between the two (6 -8 inches). If your bait has its own action you will need a longer leader, so they don't cancel each other out. You are spot on with the temp. 52 -54. The Fish Hawk is a great tool. It will also help you find the thermocline in summer. Fido plankton get trapped in the thermocline (they are plants and do not swim). Zoo plankton eat Fido plankton. They can swim but just a little. Kokanee eat Zoo plankton. So... find the thermocline = finding Kokanee. Spring and Winter has no thermocline. Just go by temp then. In spring the Kokanee will be near the surface because that is where the plankton is after winter. Just drag a long line (100 yards or so) behind the boat. Good luck.
WOW, This has got to be one of my best comments ive ever gotten! 1st off thank you so much for taking the time to send this. It is packed full of a ton of valuble information that I will 100% put to work and hopfully come out with more fish in the box! Thank you so much I will disect this whole comment and go to work!
Gee whiz! I have to screen shot all this info. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Everything except ditch the second hook.....double snelled singles are the way to go....we have 10 acres at Bridge lake up in the Cariboo ....they get up to,8 lbs up there....rare though but 4 to 5 pounders aren't uncommon
Thanks for sharing your fishing information. I'll be up in your neck of the woods soon. Can't wait.
Hey, Thank you so much! Thats awesome man are you going to be fishing up here?
I've got a sister in Sagle who I'll be taking fishing out of Garfield first part of April. My cousin out of Rathdrum and I fish CDA & Ponderay quite often. I'm also going to try for Kokes on Hayden Lake for the first time.@@walkingonwaterfishing
That sounds like an an awesome trip!Are you guys chasing Kams? Hayden Lake is a great place to catch kokanee its been one of my favorites for a long time! Good luck to you out there!@@anglersnw
Yes, we are hoping to hook into a few Kamloops as well as Land Locked Chinook in CDA Lake. Looking forward to fishing Hayden also for Kokes.@@walkingonwaterfishing
@@anglersnw Dang, you guys are going for it! Sounds like an awesome trip. I wish you luck brother tight lines!!
Another banger vid man.! Love seeing you level up you deserve it! bet that boat was a nice upgrade haha
Hey thanks brother, Yeah it feels great dude got to keep lvling it up until we get that guide boat! It fees way better than the kayak hahah
Love your videos! love the enthusiasm and lots of great information !
Thanks so much! I love you dad!
After kokanee fishing for 50 years I've found kokes bite at temps of 52° to 60°, depending on time of day & time of year. Trolling speed can depend on style of dodger-- skateboard design dodgers work well at 1.2 mph while sling blade dodgers usually work best at 1.4 to 1.7 mph, depending on what type of lure you are using.
That’s some solid information brother! I did a video where I filmed Kokanee dodgers and lures under water so I could see what the reaction to diff speeds were it’s pretty cool!
Navajo Lake in New Mexico has great Kokanee fishing. A beautiful high desert paradise!
@@josephgreenleaf3371 that sounds awesome!!
Very good points! I think at 25 hp your boat is a little overpowered for kokanee. My 13 footer has a 15 hp and I have to slow it down too, usually by dragging a 5 gallon bucket behind the boat. I have found that wind permitting, rowing the boat can be really effective because of the slow speed and pulsing action-also makes no noise. My two fav western WA lakes have cooled down for kokanee, it may be because bass anglers have illegally introduced smallmouth bass into them. I tried Paulina Lake in Oregon 2 years ago and the scenery and fish size were good. Locally I have been fishing Riffe Lake for landlocked coho using standard kokanee gear but you can troll a little faster - 2 mph.
Thank you! Yeah the 25 is definitely too much for the boat and with the trolling plate it vibrates pretty good so I just use a lot longer set backs for Kokanee. Yeah 15hp is still pretty big for Kokanee trolling. Yeah one way to absolutely destroy a good sport fishing population is to introduce a bunch of invasive species to the lake! That’s fantastic good scenery and good fish you can’t beat that. Are the coho pretty good sized on riffe?
Great information. Thank you! Hayden?
Yes it is!
I thought it looked a bit familiar!
I love hayden lake for kokanee
@@returnofsid
I've recently got back into Kokanee fishing. Hayden is one I'm hoping to hit very soon.
I have fished Kokanee for 40 years,big Kokanee,small Kokanee.I troll 1.5 to 1.8 I don’t really pay attention I can look at my gear and see how it looks and know the speed is right.I only use a chrome sling blade and a pink hootchie .Water temp ,early season Kokanee are shallow them they get deeper.I don’t care about temperature just run my gear where I see Kokanee on my fish finder.I use dyed corn or pink Berkeley maggots with mikes scent.I use 6.5 ft cheap fiberglass rods with big line counter reels 10 lb mono ,I use the same rods for crank baits walleyes and lake trout.I live by flaming gorge and strawberry in Utah catch big Kokanee not those shakers in Idaho.look up lake records at those 2 lakes
Oh I’ve seen fish from both of those lakes they produce monsters. That’s fantastic information. I’ve gone to chasing the schools as well makes my day way more productive.
Try bead lake Wa. It’s not that bad, kinda ok. Good scenery
Okay! I will look into it!
What order do you change up things first? Scent, leader length, set up, depth or move areas?
Depth,lure, Scent I dont leader change a whole lot cuz i run two rods
Good info, but speed depends a lot on Kokanee size and time of the year. Here in SW Idaho our Kokanee average about 15", with fish reaching up to 22". Bigger fish are stronger and faster, especially as you get into May and June. I do best often around 1.7mph.
That’s great information to know! I will try to vary some speed and test that out! Thank your for letting me know. Tight lines.
get a trolling plate for your motor.... Drift socks will work, as do 5 gallon buckets, but that isn't what a drift sock was designed for.
I have a trolling plate on my motor now!
You say that you Trolling with this motor what size horsepower do you have Because I'm thinking about Is trolling socks Thank you
Is a 25 horse four stroke but I actually went and got a trolling plate that brings me down to 1 mile an hour otherwise I would have to run 2 30 inch drift socks
@@walkingonwaterfishing Thank you very much I have a trolling plate and tried it but my 25 horse Yamaha 4 stroke motor seems to vibrate my 14' Aluminum boat That's why I was thinking about trolling socks Thanks again
Yeah! So mine does the same it vibrates so i dont go above 1.2mph alos when i get that vibration i set my gear back way farther in the water like 50-60 ft back so the boat does not scare all the kokanee away from my gear!
@@jeffthrower4981
An electric trolling motor is a great option for kokanee. Often they’ll want even slower, like .8mph, which is easy with a trolling motor. Not to mention it’s so much quieter.
@@Fairdemand554 I couldnt agree more! I have one but it drains my battery in 4 hours im looking into a lithium battery one day when i win the lotto hahaha or my wife says yes ;) idk which will come 1st
I have a good boat and motor home
I would live to fish Canada!
Awesone
A good tip: kokanee are schooling fish. When you mark kokanee on your fish finder or when you catch some, mark that spot on your fish finder and continue to loop back through that school. Also, make lots of turns. The turn will speed up/slow down your inner and outer presentations and will cause the followers to strike.
That is a great tip! I always say never leave fish to find fish! I just lose them all at the boat hahahha
Lets hook up and make a trip to BC
Hayden lake
You didn't catch anything . lol