That alarm going off just a moment after you said "If they detect us this campaign is literally over" and the pause after that is really comedy gold. And with 99% sudden strike chance... Unbelievable... Man you really jinxed it 😁
I think it was because the rest of the fleet was in radar range (which, iiirc is the red circle around the town) so the instant the garrison made visual contact they immediately knew it was hostile.
That attitude of "I'm not going down without a fight!" has given me some great stories. In my most recent game, two of my ships had been cut off from the fleet and surrounded, with the rest of my fleet narrowly avoiding getting spotted. The two ships were a stock Gladiator and a Harpy (Like a bigger Howler with ELINT, ECM, RADAR, and IRST). They didn't have any fuel so running wasn't an option. I tried getting the ships to hide and land in the desert, but a strike fleet began combing the area where they were last seen and spotted my ships. The Gladiator took a hit by a long range missile, then the first strike fleet attacked. I was sure these ships were lost, but I was determined to fight anyways. I loaded up the proxy fuze and began the fight. Somehow I took down all three ships with the Gladiator. Most of the armor was gone and I lost an engine, but I had won. There wasn't any time to salvage the fuel or anything before then next strike fleet was there. By some miracle I downed them all with that stock Gladiator. Every single piece of armor had been stripped away, only one gun functioned, most of the engines were gone, and EVERY REMAINING PART WAS RED. (Also it was on fire) Two strike fleets were downed by one damaged Gladiator. I had to sell the remains of the Gladiator and get the Harpy back to safety, but what I thought was going to be a total loss turned into a victory.
"If they detect us the campaing is literally over" 2 seconds later: *BIBIBIBIBIBIBIBIIIIIBIBIBIBIBIBIBIBIBIB Your sudden silence got trough more emotions than a thousands words could LMAO...
I'm curious why the garrison in the unnamed city immediately triggered the silent strike alarm, was it in the air because of the Dangerous flag in Suva?
There's an invisible alert in a 1500km radius if you set off an alarm at a city. I was baffled when it happened in my game, too. From Wiki: "Once your location has been reported the city in question basically functions like a "silent" Local Alarm, complete with a 12 hour alarm in 1500km radius AFTER you leave the city which is NOT indicated by your alarm clock."
Also wanted to add that the enemy fleets sometimes travel a bit away from the lines, so it's not always simple to find them without sensors just by visual inspection, even if the route is known
The Screamer got caught because it didn't have movement orders and instead stopped and landed. At 18:15 you can see the game pause because the Screamer reached it's set destination, and after unpausing at 18:24 you see descending altitude numbers for the Screamer.
My issue here is the only Hidden City I know about is very far south and I don't have the money, or the time, to get enough fuel to fly there. My situation right now is that staying in a city more than 20 hours will result in ballistic missiles and airstrikes hitting it.
I know this video has been out for some time now so this coment may be missed. I think that chasing strike group uses a classic trick. They where not using there full speed untill you got confident you could kite them. That's when they turned it up to 11 to chase and catch you off guard. Military intelligence 102; Never show you full ability unless you absolutely have to.
They for sure got me shocked and surprised. The other thing that could have happened is after damaging them they may have lost mass but kept their engines, which will cause their speed to increase. I like to think it is your suggestion though, makes the enemy a lot scarier!
All that talk about being careful about them picking up speed and you got completely distracted with your grand plan. Oh man that was painful to watch. :D
I know this is 4 months old but: I think the missile groups sudden speed increase can be explained by its missile launch at your fleet. If it launched a missile it most likely got significantly lighter as strat missiles are pretty heavy. This is reinforced by your noticing the missile launch almost immediately after your screamer got caught.
The one time where you want more than three planes (or more rockets than the T7 can shoot in one run) is when the enemy can dodge or has extensive palash protection. The ships will overheat their engines or have their palash depleted, and then the second flight can finish them off. Edit: The howler debacle is exactly why I have a scout class with one gimballed engine. In the next update you could possibly just rotate statics to be able to retreat without losing thrust.
Never again will I design a ship class without a gimballed engine! What a disaster! I like to launch planes in a 2's as it seams to restrict the enemy from launching a lot of sprints. I find with more than that they will fill the air with intercept missiles. Good point on Palash though! It's great protection from multiple air strikes.
Add one little tracking radar (250 km) to your fast jammer scouts. As they are so fast enough so nobody can take them down, it can be good idea to turn them into the missile guiders.
Nice! oh and with the airstrikes - it's almost never worth buying the big 320mm rockets. They just cost too much for what they do (even if they do hit) The best aircraft loadout for mid air interception are Supersonic jets armed with the smaller 120mm rockets, that way - if they dodge some of the rockets the first time (quite a few will still hit disregarding the size of the ship, even if it's the smallest) they will turn around and empty their load on a ship with a burnt out drive, So there's little chance of dodging it. This does leave your interceptors open to attack when they come out for another run if the enemy has loads of 37mm cannons/Prox fuzzes, but it's way more cost efficient and effective if your planes survive, usually 2 interceptors armed with 120mm rockets are enough to take out cruisers.
tl;dr 320mm rockets are shit considering how expensive they are. Missing one is like missing an entire volley of 120mm rockets almost. I actually just finished my Hard mode campaign with a score of 80k. Can't wait to compare to how i did, though i did savescum a few times...
I never had a lot of luck with the 120mm but it sounds like I need to give them a try. I like to rely on the 250kg bombs. Or as one of my viewers called it 'The Sayedi Special'
@@Phrosphor Yeah, 120mm give a bad impression when they're armed on an La-29 They're a godsend when they're armed on T-7's vs small midair targets. Otherwise bombs are the way to go vs capital ships, but if the target is too nimble (like the heavy missile frigates in the video)- try that The 120mm rockets are so good on the T-7's that i sometimes accidentally wipe out 2 ships with a barrage instead of 1, but in the end - it's really all about the angle. If my ships come in from the opposite angle of the ship they're targeting - i just instantly retreat them and re-engage to get a better angle. Best angle, of course - is top down.
@@Phrosphor Oh yes, i need to catch your streams, i've been watching the vids and kept enjoying them and liking each one, rarely anyone plays the game multi-fleet like you. I split my fleet in max 2 parts of aircraft carrier groups and play this as an aircraft carrier sim (Basically screening for the carriers like you would IRL with Cruisers for fuel and operations/missiles, destroyers for anti sub (frigate) action, frigates for fast attack boat (corvette) action, and i have a lighting with a skylark to collect the loot from a weakened garrison (1v1 usually) 250kg bombs are a godsend against large, hulking, slow moving targets, but if the target is too fast - they're a waste. In that case - try 120mm rockets instead Usually the "too smal and nimble to hit with bombs" targets are transport escorts or garrisons, buuut... sometimes they're ones like in this video, where you only hit like 2 rockets out of 6 Another reason the 340mm rockets suck is that - even if they DO hit - they do damage more to the surrounding area rather than burrow deep withing the ship, while every successive 120mm rocket hit keeps removing layers of ship until it gets to the fuel. 340mm is good for taking out radards/rockets/making the ship less effective overall, but 120mm is better for killing it.
Hi @Phrosphor ! I really like your videos and learn a lot from them as well. Can you share your ship designs with us to implement them in our own gameplay?
RIP little dude. I loled pretty hard when you realized it only had static thrusters. I guess you could just buy another ship, strip it, sell the excess parts, and rebuild it as a howler, maybe with some radar and elint capabilities
the moment the alarm went off at the unamed city is also the exact moment your main fleet crossed the red detection circle, not sure if that had anything to do with it?
It is apparently either that or a hidden mechanic that means that cities auto report you if one has called in your location from the DANGEROUS status in the last 12 hours.
Excited to see the rest of this campaign. Curious what it is going to look like once you get ELINT on the screamers. I seems like they would really let you do some good triangulation.
This campaign is like a boulder rolling down the hill. It's just a breathless recovery from disaster after disaster. I can't wait to see what you think when you get to the end.
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That alarm going off just a moment after you said "If they detect us this campaign is literally over" and the pause after that is really comedy gold. And with 99% sudden strike chance... Unbelievable... Man you really jinxed it 😁
I really can't believe it happened, still!
🤣
I think it was because the rest of the fleet was in radar range (which, iiirc is the red circle around the town) so the instant the garrison made visual contact they immediately knew it was hostile.
That attitude of "I'm not going down without a fight!" has given me some great stories. In my most recent game, two of my ships had been cut off from the fleet and surrounded, with the rest of my fleet narrowly avoiding getting spotted. The two ships were a stock Gladiator and a Harpy (Like a bigger Howler with ELINT, ECM, RADAR, and IRST).
They didn't have any fuel so running wasn't an option. I tried getting the ships to hide and land in the desert, but a strike fleet began combing the area where they were last seen and spotted my ships. The Gladiator took a hit by a long range missile, then the first strike fleet attacked.
I was sure these ships were lost, but I was determined to fight anyways. I loaded up the proxy fuze and began the fight. Somehow I took down all three ships with the Gladiator. Most of the armor was gone and I lost an engine, but I had won.
There wasn't any time to salvage the fuel or anything before then next strike fleet was there. By some miracle I downed them all with that stock Gladiator.
Every single piece of armor had been stripped away, only one gun functioned, most of the engines were gone, and EVERY REMAINING PART WAS RED. (Also it was on fire)
Two strike fleets were downed by one damaged Gladiator. I had to sell the remains of the Gladiator and get the Harpy back to safety, but what I thought was going to be a total loss turned into a victory.
What a great story! Thanks for sharing it. Did you manage to save the campaign after this?
@@Phrosphor I haven't beaten the game yet, but I am still playing that campaign now.
I can’t believe i just binge watched 9 episodes of a video game I’ve never seen before…
Amazing, I hope you keep going with it. Highfleet is a bizarre collection of mechanics and UI design ideas but the immersion level is Very high.
rip the Screamer, you will be missed.
I let them down :(
"If they detect us the campaing is literally over"
2 seconds later:
*BIBIBIBIBIBIBIBIIIIIBIBIBIBIBIBIBIBIBIB
Your sudden silence got trough more emotions than a thousands words could LMAO...
It was an impeccable bit of timing.
Try rolling for your Screamer design in test. Fixed thrusters assist rolling. Maybe they can roll the ship on their own.
I will try this, I always forget about rolling unless I am landing. If they can roll I am going to be VERY sad.
Man I can't wait for more of these Highfleet episodes
The next episode is recorded, just needs edited!
I'm curious why the garrison in the unnamed city immediately triggered the silent strike alarm, was it in the air because of the Dangerous flag in Suva?
There's an invisible alert in a 1500km radius if you set off an alarm at a city. I was baffled when it happened in my game, too.
From Wiki: "Once your location has been reported the city in question basically functions like a "silent" Local Alarm, complete with a 12 hour alarm in 1500km radius AFTER you leave the city which is NOT indicated by your alarm clock."
Wow, I love hidden mechanics like this...
Thanks for the details on what happened.
Also wanted to add that the enemy fleets sometimes travel a bit away from the lines, so it's not always simple to find them without sensors just by visual inspection, even if the route is known
Yeah I was hoping to get lucky, we will see if it pays off in the next episode.
Can't wait for the next episode! Really enjoying this campaign
The Screamer got caught because it didn't have movement orders and instead stopped and landed. At 18:15 you can see the game pause because the Screamer reached it's set destination, and after unpausing at 18:24 you see descending altitude numbers for the Screamer.
Yeah it was a rotten oversight that resulted in the death of a hero.
I think the problem was that the screamer reached where ever you had most recently told it to go and began to land
Yep, thats it exactly. A stupid mistake got that crew killed :(
You can still drop into a hidden city, repair, refuel, and go back out for another fight when the alarms have died down.
My issue here is the only Hidden City I know about is very far south and I don't have the money, or the time, to get enough fuel to fly there. My situation right now is that staying in a city more than 20 hours will result in ballistic missiles and airstrikes hitting it.
I know this video has been out for some time now so this coment may be missed.
I think that chasing strike group uses a classic trick. They where not using there full speed untill you got confident you could kite them. That's when they turned it up to 11 to chase and catch you off guard.
Military intelligence 102;
Never show you full ability unless you absolutely have to.
They for sure got me shocked and surprised. The other thing that could have happened is after damaging them they may have lost mass but kept their engines, which will cause their speed to increase. I like to think it is your suggestion though, makes the enemy a lot scarier!
All that talk about being careful about them picking up speed and you got completely distracted with your grand plan.
Oh man that was painful to watch. :D
I know this is 4 months old but:
I think the missile groups sudden speed increase can be explained by its missile launch at your fleet. If it launched a missile it most likely got significantly lighter as strat missiles are pretty heavy. This is reinforced by your noticing the missile launch almost immediately after your screamer got caught.
Of course! This makes perfect sense! I never understood what happened here but I think you hit the nail on the head! Thank you!
@@Phrosphor No problem! This game has such a rich depth of unexplained mechanics, I feel like we'll be puzzling things out forever 😄
@@Phrosphor There was also a corner you were taking at the same time.
I think you're exactly right. The timing lines up with that A100 showing up.
the cackaling i did when that alarm went out in the begining was not human lmao
I rolled my eyes so hard they hurt. It only gets worse.
The one time where you want more than three planes (or more rockets than the T7 can shoot in one run) is when the enemy can dodge or has extensive palash protection. The ships will overheat their engines or have their palash depleted, and then the second flight can finish them off.
Edit: The howler debacle is exactly why I have a scout class with one gimballed engine. In the next update you could possibly just rotate statics to be able to retreat without losing thrust.
Never again will I design a ship class without a gimballed engine! What a disaster!
I like to launch planes in a 2's as it seams to restrict the enemy from launching a lot of sprints. I find with more than that they will fill the air with intercept missiles.
Good point on Palash though! It's great protection from multiple air strikes.
Add one little tracking radar (250 km) to your fast jammer scouts. As they are so fast enough so nobody can take them down, it can be good idea to turn them into the missile guiders.
That was part of the plan for the them, I need to build a bigger chassis though as I also want them to have elint.
Nice! oh and with the airstrikes - it's almost never worth buying the big 320mm rockets. They just cost too much for what they do (even if they do hit)
The best aircraft loadout for mid air interception are Supersonic jets armed with the smaller 120mm rockets, that way - if they dodge some of the rockets the first time (quite a few will still hit disregarding the size of the ship, even if it's the smallest) they will turn around and empty their load on a ship with a burnt out drive, So there's little chance of dodging it.
This does leave your interceptors open to attack when they come out for another run if the enemy has loads of 37mm cannons/Prox fuzzes, but it's way more cost efficient and effective if your planes survive, usually 2 interceptors armed with 120mm rockets are enough to take out cruisers.
tl;dr 320mm rockets are shit considering how expensive they are. Missing one is like missing an entire volley of 120mm rockets almost.
I actually just finished my Hard mode campaign with a score of 80k. Can't wait to compare to how i did, though i did savescum a few times...
I never had a lot of luck with the 120mm but it sounds like I need to give them a try.
I like to rely on the 250kg bombs. Or as one of my viewers called it 'The Sayedi Special'
@@Phrosphor Yeah, 120mm give a bad impression when they're armed on an La-29
They're a godsend when they're armed on T-7's vs small midair targets. Otherwise bombs are the way to go vs capital ships, but if the target is too nimble (like the heavy missile frigates in the video)- try that
The 120mm rockets are so good on the T-7's that i sometimes accidentally wipe out 2 ships with a barrage instead of 1, but in the end - it's really all about the angle. If my ships come in from the opposite angle of the ship they're targeting - i just instantly retreat them and re-engage to get a better angle. Best angle, of course - is top down.
@@Phrosphor Oh yes, i need to catch your streams, i've been watching the vids and kept enjoying them and liking each one, rarely anyone plays the game multi-fleet like you. I split my fleet in max 2 parts of aircraft carrier groups and play this as an aircraft carrier sim (Basically screening for the carriers like you would IRL with Cruisers for fuel and operations/missiles, destroyers for anti sub (frigate) action, frigates for fast attack boat (corvette) action, and i have a lighting with a skylark to collect the loot from a weakened garrison (1v1 usually)
250kg bombs are a godsend against large, hulking, slow moving targets, but if the target is too fast - they're a waste. In that case - try 120mm rockets instead
Usually the "too smal and nimble to hit with bombs" targets are transport escorts or garrisons, buuut... sometimes they're ones like in this video, where you only hit like 2 rockets out of 6
Another reason the 340mm rockets suck is that - even if they DO hit - they do damage more to the surrounding area rather than burrow deep withing the ship, while every successive 120mm rocket hit keeps removing layers of ship until it gets to the fuel. 340mm is good for taking out radards/rockets/making the ship less effective overall, but 120mm is better for killing it.
That motivational talk at 2:23 was out of the blue. But i liked it. You have to be pro-active.
Oh I was sooo mad.
Rip Screamer. You will be missed.
There are always casualties, but they always hit me so hard. I hate losing any units.
Hahaha that detection was such a perfect moment.
I felt pretty cursed when that happened! How unbelievably ironic.
Hi @Phrosphor ! I really like your videos and learn a lot from them as well. Can you share your ship designs with us to implement them in our own gameplay?
I am keen to, but the latest patch has made them all out of date. Maybe I need to do a 'modernisation' build video.
RIP little dude. I loled pretty hard when you realized it only had static thrusters.
I guess you could just buy another ship, strip it, sell the excess parts, and rebuild it as a howler, maybe with some radar and elint capabilities
the moment the alarm went off at the unamed city is also the exact moment your main fleet crossed the red detection circle, not sure if that had anything to do with it?
It is apparently either that or a hidden mechanic that means that cities auto report you if one has called in your location from the DANGEROUS status in the last 12 hours.
Excited to see the rest of this campaign. Curious what it is going to look like once you get ELINT on the screamers. I seems like they would really let you do some good triangulation.
This campaign is like a boulder rolling down the hill. It's just a breathless recovery from disaster after disaster. I can't wait to see what you think when you get to the end.
When your best plan is not enough :(
It's a kick in the dick in the balls but we will not give in.
Full Tilt @2:57, i feel you.
That was one of those moments where you either flip the table or win just to spite your opponent. I chose to try for the latter.
I'm finally early to one of these videos.
And quite an episode.
It's worth putting one maneuvering engine on those little ships.
Always from now on.
because your main fleet was inside the red radius the garrison detected you. they have a much lower chance of silent strike
Also your houwler did not have a destination so he landed and they caught up with you
Apparently it was because of a hidden mechanic involving the DANGEROUS town radioing my position in.
Yeah stupid mistakes cause deaths :(
does Highfleet run on Windows 7?
Sadly the publisher lists the minimum OS as Win10 :(
Cat detected 4:30
That is Haggis, she is a very gregarious cat.