Large 1A2 key telephone system, Western Electric 6 and 10 button phones. 2565,2851 ect.
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This video is to show what a large 1A2 key system of the 1970-80"s
this is an active key system located in my private telephone collection.
I was in the telecom business for over 35 years. You have done an amazing job here and is literally a work of art. You have stayed true down to the last detail. I’m literally speechless.
I was a PBX Installer at PT&T in Santa Clara, CA. Did all 1A2. Worked on very large and small systems. Moved to Northern Telecom and SL-1's in 1980. Really enjoyed your video. Beautiful installation work!!
To call this guy a just nerd would be an insult. He is the super nerd of 1970-80"s telephone. He not only has a museum level collection of historical telephone hardware, most of it seems to be completely functional, it's all been wired up to be functional and setup in a way that a real exchange room would look. That's true dedication to ones hobby.
Awesome! Would love to see one of those line buttons light up at once on all those key phones. Thanks for sharing your great collection and your amazing wiring!
Looks like one of the systems our old Courthouse had! Man you guys that wired out those old large 1a2 systems really knew your craft! Cabling like that is really a lost art today! Great video THANKS!
Wow, this takes me back. In the mid 70's I spent one entire summer punching 100 pr cables down in an SBC admin building. Then spent the next two summers installing and managing stations in the building. I used to be really good at 1A2. The diode blocks really took me back, I never understood why they confused others so badly.
Congrats on such a clean install, it seemed like there was always someone not willing to dress the site. I think I still have a spool of 3 pr somewhere and seeing them mounted reminded me.
Those Call Directors with 5 fingered hundreds were always fun, it was hard to ignore a missing color group.
Your collection is spectacular! I had no idea that the multiline phones, much less the speakerphones, came in so many colors.
That you have these connected is beyond wonderful. Thanks for keeping them alive and sharing them.
They confuse people who are confused by logic or don't really understand what it is they are wiring. I've worked with people who are physically capable of punching down wires and do fine under supervision, but have no clue how any of it really works.
What a beautiful collection. Thank you for sharing it
Oh now this brings back memories. From 1A to 1A2 all the way to digital key and PBX systems. I spent 20 years troubleshooting these systems.
Same here, Our career has gone.
The WE 30 button "speakerphone" I saw was used as a Centrex operator's console with a very large white button on top to transfer calls out. Each button was set up as illuminated momentary button to show incoming trunks to answer. After the trunk was sized (answered), the caller was transferred out with a hit on the large white button for dialtone, then dialling the extension, then hitting the RLS (release) to pass the call. We could stay on by hitting the trunk again to do a temporary 3 way, and then RLS to let the transferred call go. It was definitely a custom implementation of that set. We also had separate consoles to answer other calls using "mini keys" which I've never seen again and can't find on TH-cam.
This is amazing. I knew nothing about phone systems until the company I worked for back in the early 2000s moved to a new building that included a Merlin Legend switch. I read all the manuals and taught myself how to set up and program the system.
Several jobs later the same thing happened, but we inherited a Merlin Magix switch.
I’ve since I worked with a ROLM CBX 9002 and a Mitel SX-2000. But what I really want is a TSPS console.
This is an absloute amazing peice of history you have preserved, I can't even begin to imagine wiring all that. These systems are so much cooler and interesting than modern systems, and they are built with much better quality. I can't imagine how you got all those key sets, love the display of phones! Keep up the great work!
I just bought a 4 line shoe box for home use. I've seen installs with about a hundred blocks but none so clean. Most are ratted out to hell. Thanks for the video.
Very interesting to observe this installation and had no idea all those colors were available! Ok, now I wonder who's got a 5ESS squirreled away and operating!?
This is an absolute work of art. The time and dedication it must have taken you to collect all of these beautiful showpieces and make them work in harmony is mind-boggling. You're quite an accomplished collector and craftsman.
The 30-button Call Director is what Nixon had in his office, I believe. I like to keep up with the phones that have been in the Oval throughout our nation's history. (I'm not sure I'll ever forgive 42 for putting in Centrex, though. 😉)
Thank you for sharing your collection with the world.
Kirk
Very cool setup! I was looking for pictures/videos of other folks' 1A2 systems as I'm getting ready to set my little 551C KSU up again. Your system sure makes a 551C look tiny!
Did you get yours set up?
wow, i used to work on those back in the day1
I like that you've added red protection on some of the 66s.
This is a phenomenal display. You obviously did a lot of pre-planning before cutting down all those cross connects and cables to the phones. Very impressive. I have a 551B on a small backboard with 66-blocks feeding four or five phones in the house. I also use a manual intercom on line 4 with signal on line 5 between two of the phones. What I have works, but must seem like child's play to a guy like you.
Thank you so much for showing us how things "should be done". Wired cut down properly with finger loops, neat and orderly wiring, and a beautiful installation. I also love the very impressive display of your wonderful telephones. Thanks again!
Great display, unfortunately I’m pulling a lot of this old equipment out of a building right now. I was curious about it and found your video.
Please call me at 971-239-5084 and lv Msg
What a great setup! Thank you for preserving it, and for posting these videos.
I came here because there is a Sears building that is closing that has some of this technology inside. It has ROLM upgrades, but some black rotary key telephones inside. I was a little confused looking at it. I wasn't to sure how it worked because I thought ROLM systems only worked with ROLM phones, not WE. There is about 5 rooms in this Sears that has wiring on the walls that look like this. Each room has a black key phone mounted on the rack. I thought it was interesting. When I look up ROLM systems, very little comes up. But, if I just put in Key System's, this comes up. Thank you for the knowledge. It has helped me understand more about key systems. I collect old phones from all ages. But I didn't understand how key systems worked, until now.
When you get that many cables, especially in a dynamic environment, it can be very easy to lose control of things. I like that you've done a pretty good job of keeping everything nice and tidy. Oh, and that phone display is impressive. I remember seeing call directors in service at my dad's office.
I had a 1A2 in my home thanks to a collector like you. I had a touch tone intercom module. Sad to see it go when I upgraded to a Panasonic hybrid system.
Then why didn't you just keep it even if for display only?
Man have you been busy! and I thought you were finished with all this! Great Video Phil! HUGS Bro! you've been a busy guy!
It blows my mind how far the business telephone has come.
Amazing collection and installation!
Congrats for your patience!
Impressive collection SIR....
yess!!! the wall of bell equipment above! Hope all this still exists somewhere...
Amazing and very interesting. Beautiful collection of phones and equipment.
this is awesome!! thank you so much for sharing!!! just spend hours in there punching down copper. a central office too, love this!
My dad put in many of these phone systems years ago.
I started installing key systems in 1996. So I removed a lot of old systems with 25-pair station cables and replaced with Cat-3 cable. Installed many 2-pair Toshiba electronic keysets, 3-pair Inter-Tel, and later 1-pair NEC & Toshiba digital stations. Now in 2022 I'm replacing systems I deployed in the early 2000's with hosted voice. I learned from the guys that cut their teeth installing 1A2 systems and now I'm pushing everything to cloud I can. I don't see hotel/motel or healthcare running to cloud. Mitel and NEC both still have good hospitality systems. I suppose when the SIP handsets for hotels and healthcare get to be as cheap as analog then they'll head that way. On-prem is on its way out.
I have possibly that same amplified ringer with a beige cover. Hooked it up to my landline for the heck of it, and it's on the "low" setting, which is plenty loud.
Western Electric was quality American Manufactured equipment.
"Manufactured" is a brand?
Sir where do you get all of this equipment? I'm looking for a stromberg carlson XY switch.
CALL 971-239-5084 I Know where there is some X Y, located IN Minnesota.
Very Cool ! I spent 4 years watching AT&T ( Relay Head John and Rick RIP ) take care of a modified (Yes 8w ) - 8 Wire 304 cross bar switch that ran Onizuka Air Station out in SunnyVale CA ( literally everything gone now ) It was the narrowband back up for USAF and NASA Space missions - including Apollo and plenty of STS. Needless to say it ran back to back with a truly monster key system that was also right there in the room that provided key phones to the consoles used upstairs. Great Tour !
Amazing that this can now all be run on a Raspberry Pi!
Not at all
@@ClassicalRips Yes, yes it can. It still doesn't take away from how cool this old technology is and how much time he has put into maintaining this museum quality installation.
Is your facility open to the public and or you accept visitors on a appointment first basis?
I do provide tours upon request. 971-239-5084 lv msg.
Is there a way for us phone,PBX,bell system,independent phone co. People to visit your museum?
call 971-239-5084 Located next to Salem Oregon.
Man, this is pretty cool! Can you please tell me how I could acquire equipment like this?
I kept waiting to see an Autovon phone. Do you have any?
I would love to see a video on card dialer phones
Were the wire colors on the trunk pairs consistent that one could memorize?
in the bell system. All ckts used Y-Blu 1 pair, r/bl- r/o 2 pair and w/bl w/o and w/gn 3 pr.
In these days the techs had to know what they were doing.
How far we've come. Just this year we made the jump from traditional office phones to Microsoft Teams VOIP. I already miss the impeccable call quality of our old office phones.
Nice joke, since VOIP can actually give better call quality, and you wouldn't switch out of something thst you prefer.
@@HelloKittyFanMan. Key word is “can”. Have you heard the G.729 or GSM codecs? Dreadful and unfortunately common.
@@thecooldude9999: GSM is for cell phones. He's comparing VOIP to PSTN. VOIP often sounds better than PSTN, so my previous reply is plenty valid.
@@HelloKittyFanMan. GSM is a codec. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Rate (see under implementations). I’m not disagreeing with you, VoIP can sound better, it just has to be set up correctly and the right codec has to be chosen. I’m just saying it’s very possible for it to sound worse.
Where do you get wire? Do you just strip cat 5e for the conductor pairs?
You can buy wire with just one pair. It's called cross connect wire.
Now i want to spend an houser learning about each hardware comment and how they work together.
Yikes I did a couple of WE 551
Shoe Boxes back in the day. Im humbled SIr.
Does this take pulse dialing?
Now they are using voice over IP digital telephones and fiber optic.
All he needs now, is the Lachine Cell Battery back up array.
Holy cow! Where did you get all the equipment? Is this a museum?
Was most of this system from a single big install?
No. Its made up from 1-12 locations. Lots of small quantities.
amazing anything this complicated worked. oh wait, it was a real generation, the 1970's, when people weren't assholes!
uhhh
I have no idea how this even works
@3:40. 584 C panels. Lemme look that up...
i want ur blue payphone.....
Sorry to say, but you have several mistakes in your description in the detail below.. I know, because I put in and repaired several of these systems in the '70s and 80s.
Are you kidding this is running in your house ?
Yes
Working in VoIP this gives me a headache.
Lost for words
T/R A/A1 LG/L
WHY DO YOU HAVE 70 TELEPHONES IN YOUR HOUSE WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT
There was this really cool part of time when everyone didn't spend their entire day sitting in front of computer screens. They actually used their brains and hands to build really cool things. Like this massive telephone system that would have allowed people to make phone calls in a large office back in the 1970 and 80's. There is this guy that boasts about playing a video game for over 8000 hours. What the fuck is the point of that! Oh, maybe that is the guys "hobby"? hmm...
You've never been to a museum in your life or even know what one is, huh, Lar? How did you even stumble upon this video?
@@beachstreet5970: Not everyone does even now, and not even entire day anyway. But a lot.