championnat du monde de boxe americaine rob kaman vs jean yves theriault immense combat entre ces deux grands champion jamais vu sur le net (20 06 1992)
Shame JYves had to stop, but right decision if he couldnt move properly. Pretty close fight to me, but I thought JYves could more or less answer anything Kaman threw. Personally I prefer the no leg kick rule, I think the matches are more interesting- my taste thats all. I think Kamans style of kicking is a product of the muay thai leg kick, which are devastating on the legs of course, but dont transfer well to targets above the thigh. In that respect Kaman had a disadvantage. JYves defended or 'rode' all the kicks on him well. Both had good boxing skills but JYves I think had more accuracy and a tighter boxing defense. Both great fighters, much respect.
Sadly, JIT was too old and had too much baggage from past battles to be his best against the much-younger, bigger and physically stronger Kaman. His stand-up and trading-blows style of fighting was not effective against Kaman, who would later fall to Alexio and other more powerful fighters.
Jean-Yves avait fait une chute de vélo 10 jours avant le combat il avait pas tous ses moyens mais bon c’est comme ça c’est la vie , il n’y a pas beaucoup de boxeur qu’on fait 15 ans à au niveau , félicitations aux deux boxeurs , et aux retraités maintenant le temps passe si vite.
It was not so much that JIT was untouchable as no one could hurt him or more precisely to win by trading blows with him. He didn’t back away from the most ferocious fighters of his time but stood his ground to go toe to toe with the best of them. He was revered as a fighter’s fighter!
I love Theriault and I've trained with him a few times, but I really dislike this style of kickboxing. No low kicks, rarely throws round kicks, mostly ineffective front kicks to set up his punches. He could have done way better if he used the Dutch style of kickboxing. Than again this was also when he was maybe 38-39 considering he was fighting in the 70's.
+jukkasc2 I started out in this style of kickboxing but I have to admit, Muay Thai or K1 style is much more exciting to watch. I disagree that the front kicks are ineffective . If you really know how to use the ball of the foot (Karate, Tae Kwon Do Style) you can definitely hurt people with it. See Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfor in MMA.This style emphasizes boxing much more than Muay Thai which is also interesting. It's basically boxing with some kicking.
I disagree the reason we watch Kickboxing is to see kicks. The problem with Muy Thai is kicking the opponents legs weakens their ability to throw kicks so you end up with less kicks thrown. And nothing is more dynamic to watch then kicks Landed above the opponents waste. In a real fight a leg kick is useless
@@DoubleRR44 in a real fight leg kicks are useless? Let me kick you in your thigh right on that nerve bundle two or three times with my full power kick and your leg will be numb bruh. LOL OH, that is if I don't take you down and destroy you in grappling.
oui peut être !!! mais rick avait un coté extravagant que jean yves et rob n'avait pas : ces derniers étaient toujours très sobres dans leurs manière de boxer
Jean-Yves Thériault est ce qu'on a eu de meilleur mais je crois que Kaman a profité de l'horloge biologique . À 37 ans Thériault n'était plus au sommet. Quand on on pense à ce que ces 2 là feraient aujourd'hui en arts martiaux mixtes ...
Jeanyves theriualt had a serious injury prior to the fight... And this was the reason he pulled out of the fight. Jeanyves tried to get a rematch after his injury healed but this did not materialise... If it had then a different tale I believe would have immerged...
Jean-Yves was past his prime at this point..I always thought Kamen was a bit overrated...I mean if you take away his leg kicks he's just a good fighter...look how easily Rick Roufus beat him..Twice!!
bof pas pour moi. un paqueet de coup qui touche jamais la cible. thériault a une défense et une boxe bien plus solide. il éait sur le point de ce faire arranché la tete kaman. une chance pour lui que thériault ne prend pas les coup dans les jambes. pour moi la force de frappe et precision de thériault est supérieur. et sa défense. mais kaman est excellent et n'est pas dans son élément dans ce style de kick boxing. alors je le respect au plus haut niveau.. mais jean-yves l'aurait knocké. il trouvait de plus en plus la cible
Thériault en fin de carrière premièrement , je te garantie qu'un Thériault âgé de 28 au lieu de 38 et Kaman aurait perdu. Même dans ce match c'étais très serrer, avantage coup de pied Kaman , avantage coup de poing Thériault . Je veut rien enlever a Kaman qui est une bête mais the Iceman c'est une légende made in Québec , un dur de dur. Kaman meilleur point....non pas vraiment . Mais je n'aurais pas envie d'affronter aucun des deux : )
C'est grand dommage que le combat ait été arrêté. J aurai voulu le voir en entier. JYT etait dangereux aux poings, le combat s arrête trop tôt. Dommage.
I like J-Y T and know him personally, but when I compare the skills and stamina of these top world kickboxers and top world boxers, like Oscar de la Hoya so it is not even comparable. These guys would be knocked out in the first round. That is why it is hundred times harder to reach the top in boxing than in kick-boxing. Not too much competition in KB. Can you imagine what Tyson would do to these two guys in the ring? And they could fight him both at the same time.
Low kicks in Kickboxing is boring and useless to watch as it prevents the opponent from kicking which is what we want to see maximum kicks above the waste not a kick to a leg that is boring to watch.
I agree, he looks diminished. Jean Yves told me he had suffered a serious back injury, just before the fight back in Canada. He wasn't moving well as a result.
@@johnburns2940 That's what happens to all great fighters in this most-brutal of sports. I have trained rigorously with reigning champions from Jeff Smith, Rodney Baptise, Mike Coles, Jerry Rhome, Gordon Franks and others. Without a single exception, they all had seen their physical skills and ability to recover from blows and injuries decline with age. Great fighters know this truth and work like hell to maximize their gains and achievements within the very-limited time of their absolute peak. Once gone, no one can get it back!
@@Sifu628 Dude, much respect to you for your rigorous training with so many competent fighters, My God 👊. Yup, once it's gone, it's gone. That's why retirement is eventually a wise career path. Thanks for the text.
That’s 2 he - men right there. 2 of the best to have ever stepped into the ring. Bona Fide Legends.
mercie pour ce combat legendaire du full
Shame JYves had to stop, but right decision if he couldnt move properly. Pretty close fight to me, but I thought JYves could more or less answer anything Kaman threw. Personally I prefer the no leg kick rule, I think the matches are more interesting- my taste thats all. I think Kamans style of kicking is a product of the muay thai leg kick, which are devastating on the legs of course, but dont transfer well to targets above the thigh. In that respect Kaman had a disadvantage. JYves defended or 'rode' all the kicks on him well. Both had good boxing skills but JYves I think had more accuracy and a tighter boxing defense. Both great fighters, much respect.
couldnt agree more with your taste, too bad apparently Iceman had cycling incident prior to the fight
Sadly, JIT was too old and had too much baggage from past battles to be his best against the much-younger, bigger and physically stronger Kaman. His stand-up and trading-blows style of fighting was not effective against Kaman, who would later fall to Alexio and other more powerful fighters.
Jean-Yves avait fait une chute de vélo 10 jours avant le combat il avait pas tous ses moyens mais bon c’est comme ça c’est la vie , il n’y a pas beaucoup de boxeur qu’on fait 15 ans à au niveau , félicitations aux deux boxeurs , et aux retraités maintenant le temps passe si vite.
Jean Yves was the GOAT NO DOUBT!! He should have retired sooner,, but all Legends think they can go longer because of there Love for the sport
Theriault was untouchable for years (80-86) as the World middle weight champ, then he moved up.
It was not so much that JIT was untouchable as no one could hurt him or more precisely to win by trading blows with him. He didn’t back away from the most ferocious fighters of his time but stood his ground to go toe to toe with the best of them. He was revered as a fighter’s fighter!
Kickboxing crimes of the Century: Rob Kaman vs. Don Wilson & Branco Cikatic vs. Rob Kaman.
merci !
I love Theriault and I've trained with him a few times, but I really dislike this style of kickboxing. No low kicks, rarely throws round kicks, mostly ineffective front kicks to set up his punches. He could have done way better if he used the Dutch style of kickboxing. Than again this was also when he was maybe 38-39 considering he was fighting in the 70's.
+jukkasc2 I started out in this style of kickboxing but I have to admit, Muay Thai or K1 style is much more exciting to watch. I disagree that the front kicks are ineffective . If you really know how to use the ball of the foot (Karate, Tae Kwon Do Style) you can definitely hurt people with it. See Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfor in MMA.This style emphasizes boxing much more than Muay Thai which is also interesting. It's basically boxing with some kicking.
kaguth front kicks are effective, I'm just saying the one's that he throws are ineffective, or at least could be more effective.
I disagree the reason we watch Kickboxing is to see kicks. The problem with Muy Thai is kicking the opponents legs weakens their ability to throw kicks so you end up with less kicks thrown. And nothing is more dynamic to watch then kicks Landed above the opponents waste. In a real fight a leg kick is useless
He just lost from the DUTCH! ! We are good in Kyukushin or Muay Thai! The smallest nation in the world having so much good Martial Art fighters
@@DoubleRR44 in a real fight leg kicks are useless? Let me kick you in your thigh right on that nerve bundle two or three times with my full power kick and your leg will be numb bruh. LOL
OH, that is if I don't take you down and destroy you in grappling.
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Big fan of Rob
MAD respect for Jean-Yves, on his professional fight record, ... for this fight ... He put. " Surrendered on stool"
Rob Kaman was a beast. The bout was pretty close. Too bad Yves had an injury.
kick boxing with low kicks is a diffferent ball game.
This is nonsens not k1 and tea kwondo ? Netherlands
@@pietjepuk7910 this was the full contact karate Better know like American Kick boxing,i would Say that i prefer this kindbod kickboxing and not k1
oui peut être !!! mais rick avait un coté extravagant que jean yves et rob n'avait pas : ces derniers étaient toujours très sobres dans leurs manière de boxer
Jean-Yves Thériault est ce qu'on a eu de meilleur mais je crois que Kaman a profité de l'horloge biologique . À 37 ans Thériault n'était plus au sommet. Quand on on pense à ce que ces 2 là feraient aujourd'hui en arts martiaux mixtes ...
Did you know Jean Yves had suffered a serious back injury just days before the fight? That's why he threw in the towel.
Jeanyves theriualt had a serious injury prior to the fight... And this was the reason he pulled out of the fight. Jeanyves tried to get a rematch after his injury healed but this did not materialise... If it had then a different tale I believe would have immerged...
Jean-Yves was past his prime at this point..I always thought Kamen was a bit overrated...I mean if you take away his leg kicks he's just a
good fighter...look how easily Rick
Roufus beat him..Twice!!
Roufus only beat him once. First fight was no contest. And Roufus was a fucking beast.
sobre tu l'as dit bravo!
En entrevue on demandait a Kaman lequel de tes adversaires tu voudrais affronter de nouveau? Theriault
Theriault should have never took this fight he was suffering from back spasms 3 days earlier
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Rob kaman et jbl sont les meilleurs,que penses t'il de j2m ?
Whats MP4
Jean looks like Freddie Mercury 😂
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Ted, Thériault : Black pants
je n ai vu que 2 balayages qui ne sont pas des low kicks...
Kaman etait meilleur point.
bof pas pour moi. un paqueet de coup qui touche jamais la cible. thériault a une défense et une boxe bien plus solide. il éait sur le point de ce faire arranché la tete kaman. une chance pour lui que thériault ne prend pas les coup dans les jambes. pour moi la force de frappe et precision de thériault est supérieur. et sa défense. mais kaman est excellent et n'est pas dans son élément dans ce style de kick boxing. alors je le respect au plus haut niveau.. mais jean-yves l'aurait knocké. il trouvait de plus en plus la cible
Thériault en fin de carrière premièrement , je te garantie qu'un Thériault âgé de 28 au lieu de 38 et Kaman aurait perdu. Même dans ce match c'étais très serrer, avantage coup de pied Kaman , avantage coup de poing Thériault .
Je veut rien enlever a Kaman qui est une bête mais the Iceman c'est une légende made in Québec , un dur de dur. Kaman meilleur point....non pas vraiment .
Mais je n'aurais pas envie d'affronter aucun des deux : )
C'est grand dommage que le combat ait été arrêté. J aurai voulu le voir en entier. JYT etait dangereux aux poings, le combat s arrête trop tôt. Dommage.
Is there no low kicks or something
No low kicks, ISKA, similar to earlier PKA rules, strikes only above waist allowed.
Sport kickboxing rules..
It's like full contact more than kickboxing.
@@tomg2946 like full contact?
Karate fullcontact rules
No low kick? Why?
Full contact rules.
THIS WAS GOOD KARATE NOT LIKE THAT M M A CRAP WHERE THEY DID IT TO SEE WHO COULD GET HURT THE WORST KICKBOXING WAS FOR POINTS
Was ditvoor of na betonblokje kan ff niet op zijn naam komen wie kan mijn helpen welke tijd Ramon. Was 7 jaar na mijn tijd
For the first time, Theriault met a guy who could kick harder then he did. The strategy to follow against Theriault is not to retreat.
I like J-Y T and know him personally, but when I compare the skills and stamina of these top world kickboxers and top world boxers, like Oscar de la Hoya so it is not even comparable. These guys would be knocked out in the first round. That is why it is hundred times harder to reach the top in boxing than in kick-boxing. Not too much competition in KB. Can you imagine what Tyson would do to these two guys in the ring? And they could fight him both at the same time.
He must of Kicked Robs elbow
Kaman aurait dû être disqualifié pour les low kicks qu'il a balancé.
Lol - le québécois? Les européens savent vraiment pas faire la différence.
Essas caneleiras deixam a luta com cara de sparring
Low kicks in Kickboxing is boring and useless to watch as it prevents the opponent from kicking which is what we want to see maximum kicks above the waste not a kick to a leg that is boring to watch.
since when is vicious low leg kicks *boring* ? maximum? now that is boring
RING JANDO... “YAWN”
I agree 👍
Kaman looks much bigger, longer and stronger than Theriault
I agree, he looks diminished. Jean Yves told me he had suffered a serious back injury, just before the fight back in Canada. He wasn't moving well as a result.
@@johnburns2940 That's what happens to all great fighters in this most-brutal of sports. I have trained rigorously with reigning champions from Jeff Smith, Rodney Baptise, Mike Coles, Jerry Rhome, Gordon Franks and others. Without a single exception, they all had seen their physical skills and ability to recover from blows and injuries decline with age. Great fighters know this truth and work like hell to maximize their gains and achievements within the very-limited time of their absolute peak. Once gone, no one can get it back!
@@Sifu628
Dude, much respect to you for your rigorous training with so many competent fighters, My God 👊.
Yup, once it's gone, it's gone. That's why retirement is eventually a wise career path. Thanks for the text.
@@johnburns2940 They reached the peak of this sport, and I can look on in astonishment from below.