Nice to know that there is at least one professional Beat Saber player out there who actually shows that they are dying after an expert+ song and not just acting cool.
I mean tbh this doesn't completely kill me to play personally, but it is tough I gotta say. It's nothing compared to trying to keep it together in sacrament.
@@alkenzik7075 No, you are not modifying the game. If you replace / alter a file from the game, you are modifying it. But you're not doing that. This would be like saying that a game save is a mod.
@@SkyyySi Technically, you are adding files to the game, so you ARE modifying it. And yes, in a way, game saves modify the game, but obviously in a more controlled way.
I tried to do this level for 30min almost nonstop my arms were shaking when I was done and still haven’t beat it yet my shoulders are sore from that Edit: I beat it like a month ago I’ve gotten a lot better now and I got an oculus (used to play on PSVR)
When i saw that the pack had songs from not only camellia (who tbh i was kinda expecting since spin eternally was the most liked song of ost4) but then schwank, tanger AND TLT (which that one was kinda a curve ball) i about lost it. this is why the beat saber devs are my favorite devs.
just love how beat saber made the map so fluent and consistent than those garbage patterns on ghost or spin eternally over all I wouldnt say this is harder than camellias ghost map made by beat saber but it's closer to a custom map.
spin etternally is perfectly fine, but ghost... its kinda hard to compare SE and this to ghost since the mapping style is so different. imo, ghost is only 3rd hardest compared to SE, and then this of course
Spin Eternally was great! Still only made it 3 quarters through, but that's just because of exhaustion. Ghost? Yeah... But it was made many years ago, so it makes a bit of sense
Id say this is a little easier than ghost mainly because ghost has more non-dominant hand leading swing patterns (just before the first "break" and towards the end). but this song is definitely harder than spin eternally.
I've beaten spin eternally, can't figure out this maps skill level cause I have COVID, making me slightly rusty and I can't get near the end of official GHOST.
Honestly everything after ost 3 is just amazing especially because I’m a psvr player so we only get what the game gives us and I don’t want to spend money on fall out boys or Green Day
Indeed it's a big and a good update. But the new content is only usable with the new songs. So it's not *that* good in my opinion. And I don't know why, but the new environment "Weaves" (or how the name was) doesn't work for me. Everything is just black. Even when I play the new songs.
@@TenshiFlee imagine the number of repetitions trying to increase his rank he did for both of those songs. It's likely going to be around the same for this one 20 tries in. In my opinion as someone who struggles with all three (parts in them that I can't get past or at least can't get past while tired from previous parts)... this is definitely easier than spin or ghost. The length of the song compared to ghost alone is a spectacular difference in difficulty.
@@elhatrius3711 this map has a lot better flow, ghost and spin eternally are just badly mapped. So it’s easier for some people than spin eternally and ghost but for others it’s the opposite
Not only is this OST harder than all the others, but this song is absolutely mental! Amazing performance! I get lost when the arcs come in, but you adapted so quickly!
This is one of my favorite songs on beat-saber. I can’t play the expert+ difficulty, but I can do it on expert and it’s really fluid and extremely fun! Not too fast, not too slow, overall excellent mapping!
Honestly, for me after 2 days of practising there are just 3 moments that I'm stuck at. Spams of blocks at 0:51, 1:04 and 2:11. Everything else is beatable. Ghost and Spin Eternally have much more choke points after much more time of practice
@@ChrisBrickHeart One tracking fail on ANY headset will kill you right then and there. I'm on Rift S, and I had to play with a bad battery for a bit- tracking just flung my left saber behind me a few times.
They definitely make you way more conscious of your swings, I noticed that too. Though half the time I hit them without even noticing there was a slider there since I would have swung that way anyway, when I do notice them it makes me way more conscious of the speed and direction of my swings.
Actually there is a way to solve it, the reason why Lstoast is so good is because instead of sing his arms to swing he uses his wrist. That is how you can beat most songs
@@mxzxxmakahomebomber8592 Its only harder because the mapping is bad not because its legitimately harder and honestly I find ghost easier in general. If they changed the mapping of ghost but it still had the same amount of notes then ghost would probably be harder.
ost 5 is the best pack weve gotten in a long time, not only did we get songs by schwank and tanger but all of these charts are so god damn good too, this one legit feels like a ranked song to me
@@KeybladeScar if youre not a fan of "rhythm game music" i suppose there isnt much of interest in this update but i personally love every track in this pack
@@Arnide haha more power to ya man and I love Rhythm Games it’s my life but idk I guess to me it wasn’t the best tho I will admit only like 2 or 3 songs in this list wasn’t good the rest are lol I guess I should have been more clear my bad 😆
The only annoying thing about the new songs is that the blocks feel up higher and you have to have your arms lifted up and it really drains your energy
I actually somehow got an A rank on my first try of the map (on expert and _with_ no-fail), which was pretty surprising considering I've yet to survive either Spin Eternally or Ghost.
As everbody else is saying, I wouldn't call this harder than ghost, more or less this song only took my 4 tried to beat after I got the hang of the 2 rapid fire notes part. The only reasons ghost is harder is mainly the length of the song, the worse flow, and the use of your non dominant hand more. I had to practice a TON for ghost for about 1 part where my non dominant hand had to do all the work. This song gets a 10/10 for arm pain because my arms still hurt from beating it yesterday
please explain the non dominant hand parts of ghost this skngs seems pretty bananced with left and right so it uses non domknabt hand a lot but the parts that kill me in ghost the most are using my non domantant hand if thats what you mean
@@yourecarsextendedwarrent3416 well it depends, there is a left handed mode in the game, witch essentially swaps the notes places, and in that case they would have the exact same problem with their right
It's crazy to think that this was more than a year and a half ago, when Beat games were popping out OSTs and DLCs like crazy all to test out new lighting mechanics and new note types, and I remember it like it was yesterday
i'm honestly nowhere near this level yet, just got through the free songs on expert+, really looking forward to getting this much better. You really are something to look up to
I still stick with ghost being the hardest has more blocks longer pain and more difficult parts in which = to emotional damage.The only thing this song gots is faster notes
Omg are you even human 😂 this is so amazing I got halfway and failed and that was in only expert 😂 I can’t imagine playing expert+ I wouldn’t last 2 seconds
I agree. I also don't really like the new trail things, if you're just watching a video they seem fine, but when you're actually playing the game they just make everything look cluttered and confusing.
I love this song/level because of the challenge. The reason it's hard level is because it is Fast, throws random things at you fast, and It is long making it tiering.
What are some beat saber songs you’d recommend for me and also I think your really good at beat saber and I also think you should do some more boneworks videos
Nice to know that there is at least one professional Beat Saber player out there who actually shows that they are dying after an expert+ song and not just acting cool.
I mean tbh this doesn't completely kill me to play personally, but it is tough I gotta say. It's nothing compared to trying to keep it together in sacrament.
remember this is a piece of toast
I've learned to stretch my shoulders before (lightly) and after playing, and it helps
Some just hits it randomly 😂
I think light it up is harder because it’s 6 minutes of pain
this song was DEFINITELY mapped to prove to modded map makers the potential of the new blocks to blend well even with the spammy techniques of current
I assumed they hired mod map makers
_cough_ Custom maps aren't mods _cough_
@@SkyyySi Technically they are modifying the game, so custom maps are mods. Though only by the strictest definition of 'mods'
@@alkenzik7075 No, you are not modifying the game. If you replace / alter a file from the game, you are modifying it. But you're not doing that. This would be like saying that a game save is a mod.
@@SkyyySi Technically, you are adding files to the game, so you ARE modifying it.
And yes, in a way, game saves modify the game, but obviously in a more controlled way.
When I heard that this released this morning, I got so exited.
This was the first song I played. My body hurts, now.
The first. Song I play was curtains that was so good
Firestarter was the first ex+ and it's so good
i was so excited I played it it wasn’t updated. :(((((
then I realized it was updating at 6:00 and it was 6:18 and now it’s literally amazing
i love getting exited (its excited)
man i can tell you made a mistake
The gap in difficulty between expert and expert+ is insane on this song
Yeah I can beat it consistently in expert but I know I’ll never get even CLOSE to beating it in expert+
@@Dead9982 lol im only in hard mode
The gap in difficulty between EASY and NORMAL is insane on this song... Can only do EASY
i know. i can beat it easily on expert but get slapped in the face when i try expert+
@@rekcahYeasy is WILD 💀 you’ll get there tho
cant wait to see what the new mod charts are gonna be like!
I honestly would like to wait. I cant wait for them to consider adding an excision song to the official game or even as a DLC Album.
Some people are going to make more harder vibro & tech & levels in general
yes its going to be so good it gives us more to do and to work with
I dont think they even gonna do that considering a lot of Beat saber community plays on order version
@@tremologaming friendly advice, don't say "more harder". It's just "harder". 😊
"My shoulders are so dead." You're LSToast, you can handle literally ANY BEATMAP!!
He kinda doggy so maybe not any 😂💀
DankruptMemer: I'm not so sure about that
Well he’s human though, he can handle anything but it will cost pain
I tried to do this level for 30min almost nonstop my arms were shaking when I was done and still haven’t beat it yet my shoulders are sore from that Edit: I beat it like a month ago I’ve gotten a lot better now and I got an oculus (used to play on PSVR)
@@masterofgames5034 same lol
When i saw that the pack had songs from not only camellia (who tbh i was kinda expecting since spin eternally was the most liked song of ost4) but then schwank, tanger AND TLT (which that one was kinda a curve ball) i about lost it. this is why the beat saber devs are my favorite devs.
Same! When I saw TLT i SCREAMED, I love this this is my favorite OST
exactly! and they’re good maps this time around too just got me like 😩
just love how beat saber made the map so fluent and consistent than those garbage patterns on ghost or spin eternally over all I wouldnt say this is harder than camellias ghost map made by beat saber but it's closer to a custom map.
I like the mapping in spin eternally
spin etternally is perfectly fine, but ghost... its kinda hard to compare SE and this to ghost since the mapping style is so different. imo, ghost is only 3rd hardest compared to SE, and then this of course
Spin Eternally was great! Still only made it 3 quarters through, but that's just because of exhaustion. Ghost? Yeah... But it was made many years ago, so it makes a bit of sense
I personally like spin eternally the drop though is definitely a little awkward
Spin eternally is great, what are you talking about
Id say this is a little easier than ghost mainly because ghost has more non-dominant hand leading swing patterns (just before the first "break" and towards the end). but this song is definitely harder than spin eternally.
I've beaten spin eternally, can't figure out this maps skill level cause I have COVID, making me slightly rusty and I can't get near the end of official GHOST.
I'm first on both the songs on psvr, this one is 100 bpm faster, and it WOULD be harder, but ghost is so harder just because it's bad
In general: 3rd spin eternally, 2nd ghost, 1st final boss Chan. Just my opinion, I’ve played through all three several times.
@@KPoWasTaken gh8st
This on expert vs Ghost on expert. This is easier
With every soundtrack after OST3 I always thought they underestimated us… this says otherwise holy crap
They REALLY improved!
Honestly everything after ost 3 is just amazing especially because I’m a psvr player so we only get what the game gives us and I don’t want to spend money on fall out boys or Green Day
@@diarrobog3646 i spent money on fall boys pack. Its fun, but kinda easy for the most part
This is a huge update because there is a whole new ost track, 2 new notes, and better lighting it’s just amazing
Indeed it's a big and a good update. But the new content is only usable with the new songs. So it's not *that* good in my opinion.
And I don't know why, but the new environment "Weaves" (or how the name was) doesn't work for me. Everything is just black. Even when I play the new songs.
@@XIxR3DEEM3RxIX just because the content only applies to every ost after 5 doesn't mean the update itself is worse
I want to give everyone who mapped the new songs the biggest smooch on the planet
Same! I love this OST its the best and shows the mapping potential alot
My first time playing this map I had exactly the same reaction by the end of it. It really does kill your shoulders
Just for the statistics, LStoast has roughly a 95% on both ghost and spin eternally, but he can only get a 92.7% on this level…
its only been out for a day
@JustHelix Grether well I mean compared to what he got on ghost and spin eternally
@@TenshiFlee imagine the number of repetitions trying to increase his rank he did for both of those songs. It's likely going to be around the same for this one 20 tries in. In my opinion as someone who struggles with all three (parts in them that I can't get past or at least can't get past while tired from previous parts)... this is definitely easier than spin or ghost. The length of the song compared to ghost alone is a spectacular difference in difficulty.
Lol i’m just happy to pass this song
@@elhatrius3711 this map has a lot better flow, ghost and spin eternally are just badly mapped. So it’s easier for some people than spin eternally and ghost but for others it’s the opposite
Not only is this OST harder than all the others, but this song is absolutely mental!
Amazing performance! I get lost when the arcs come in, but you adapted so quickly!
This is one of my favorite songs on beat-saber. I can’t play the expert+ difficulty, but I can do it on expert and it’s really fluid and extremely fun! Not too fast, not too slow, overall excellent mapping!
Honestly, for me after 2 days of practising there are just 3 moments that I'm stuck at. Spams of blocks at 0:51, 1:04 and 2:11. Everything else is beatable. Ghost and Spin Eternally have much more choke points after much more time of practice
@@ChrisBrickHeart One tracking fail on ANY headset will kill you right then and there. I'm on Rift S, and I had to play with a bad battery for a bit- tracking just flung my left saber behind me a few times.
It’s the hardest power of the saber blade:you sure
On expert+ I have only managed to make it to 0:52 into the song without failing. I do play on PSVR, but props to you LS Toast!
Its still impressive you got that far! much farther than most people lol
That's especially impressive on psvr lol, that shit is so unresponsive
im suprised your tracking didnt f*** up
Hello fellow PSVR user.
@@electric_pulse2559 I am Quest 2 User
I feel like those new sliders can be used as swing trainers
They definitely make you way more conscious of your swings, I noticed that too. Though half the time I hit them without even noticing there was a slider there since I would have swung that way anyway, when I do notice them it makes me way more conscious of the speed and direction of my swings.
@@Buphido 2 months late but I don’t care:
For more pro players like me the sliders and trails are kinda not even something I pay attention to
Toast, you are THE BEST beat saber player I've seen so far on TH-cam!! That was a literal boss battle and you NAILED IT
If you liked LSToast, i recommend Cerret
I suppose you haven’t seen taichi
If you like LSToast go visit 420Mcnuggies channel. He´s also very good at beat saber and does crazy levels just like LSToast.
Holy cow Ghost has some competition, am I right?
One of the biggest reasons this is so hard is because it easily makes your arms really tired.🥵
Actually there is a way to solve it, the reason why Lstoast is so good is because instead of sing his arms to swing he uses his wrist. That is how you can beat most songs
I like how the new songs + environment are made to show off the new lighting system
Just like in 2021, this OST update changed a lot
idk what i get out of this bro, it’s fun to watch. *somehow*
I think its easier than both spin eternally and ghost but in some ways like the 2 spam parts its harder.
Spin eternally is definitely easier, but ghost is debatable
@@thomasfoster4382 Ghost is definately harder
@@mxzxxmakahomebomber8592 Its only harder because the mapping is bad not because its legitimately harder and honestly I find ghost easier in general. If they changed the mapping of ghost but it still had the same amount of notes then ghost would probably be harder.
@@zathius1021 But you gotta consider that you've done ghost wayyy more times and you're used to it now
@@mxzxxmakahomebomber8592 Ya ig thats true
Ghost:
*Finally a worthy opponent*
this is like a custom song in mapping, it's dope
Actually better, most Custom Maps are pretty generic
We don’t need riot shields. Just get an LS Toast to slice the bullets.
ost 5 is the best pack weve gotten in a long time, not only did we get songs by schwank and tanger but all of these charts are so god damn good too, this one legit feels like a ranked song to me
Along with the addition of new notes to play with and I can't wait to see how the modding community will play with this
This pack was wack and I love Beat Saber lol
@@KeybladeScar if youre not a fan of "rhythm game music" i suppose there isnt much of interest in this update but i personally love every track in this pack
@@Arnide haha more power to ya man and I love Rhythm Games it’s my life but idk I guess to me it wasn’t the best tho I will admit only like 2 or 3 songs in this list wasn’t good the rest are lol I guess I should have been more clear my bad 😆
I think the change from a line of blocks, to a "chopped" line of blocks would really help for visibility. Bet this song is so much fun to play!
It’s not trust me 😳
3:43 "here comes Randy Orton slithering in, WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT!" 🤣🤣
Bro was raised by the beat saber gods and devs and was given hacks at life in VR
Day 78 of asking for you to play your outro as a beat saber map
@CPW314 Im pretty sure there is at least one map of his outro song out there
Idk why but even on Expert my shoulders are IN PAIN when I play Final-Boss Chan
The blue lights at 2:03 crack me up! XD
Spain without the a
Now this is the final boss
The only annoying thing about the new songs is that the blocks feel up higher and you have to have your arms lifted up and it really drains your energy
And I love it for that, it really really helps train your stamina which well help incredibly improve your skill whether you like it or not
King. If that was you “not being able to hold it together”, there is approximately 0 hope for the rest of us.
It's always so smooth, sheesh
Killing it dude
teaching me when?
I actually somehow got an A rank on my first try of the map (on expert and _with_ no-fail), which was pretty surprising considering I've yet to survive either Spin Eternally or Ghost.
As everbody else is saying, I wouldn't call this harder than ghost, more or less this song only took my 4 tried to beat after I got the hang of the 2 rapid fire notes part. The only reasons ghost is harder is mainly the length of the song, the worse flow, and the use of your non dominant hand more. I had to practice a TON for ghost for about 1 part where my non dominant hand had to do all the work. This song gets a 10/10 for arm pain because my arms still hurt from beating it yesterday
please explain the non dominant hand parts of ghost this skngs seems pretty bananced with left and right so it uses non domknabt hand a lot
but the parts that kill me in ghost the most are using my non domantant hand if thats what you mean
@@yourecarsextendedwarrent3416 yeah thats what I mean
@@picklesaber40 but what if your left handed
@@yourecarsextendedwarrent3416 well it depends, there is a left handed mode in the game, witch essentially swaps the notes places, and in that case they would have the exact same problem with their right
@@picklesaber40 oh i diddnt know that
sounds like a bunch of popular songs like flamewall put together lol
This doesn't even look like beatsaber but I love it.
Good job toastyboy! U did wel!
This song is not for people weak of heart, mind, soul and body!!!
BTW the beat at 1:13 is so good
It's crazy to think that this was more than a year and a half ago, when Beat games were popping out OSTs and DLCs like crazy all to test out new lighting mechanics and new note types, and I remember it like it was yesterday
i can proudly say that i beat the hardest level in beat saber on my first try
same
what difficulty tho
bc iu could beat it first try on easy or normal no problem. probably hard too.
@@d33p345 can you see what difficulty is LsToast playing and how he titled his video? I dont think it's easy or normal
@@Rimax_PL i was referring to the poster of the comment, who was bragging about beating it on first try. not lstoast.
Haha yeah that’s why I have 2.5m subscribers 😂
i'm honestly nowhere near this level yet, just got through the free songs on expert+, really looking forward to getting this much better. You really are something to look up to
no way this is harder than Ghost. after I beat this I still cant get Ghost AAAAA >:(
Bro I finished this song but I pulled a muscle in my shoulder in the process so I feel you pain
I still stick with ghost being the hardest has more blocks longer pain and more difficult parts in which = to emotional damage.The only thing this song gots is faster notes
Bro the way I’ve been playing this for so long tho
I love the new update. It is so good.
The "What is happening" mode has arrived!
Good lord... and here I was all proud of myself for beating it on expert. You're insane.
0:52 I need a tip on how to pass that part
I can’t even tell what you’re hitting, but this is my favorite song. This song was so fun and easy on expert+
fun and easy? Are you joking?
No
“Fun and easy” ha, funny
@@TheFLvk3 fun and easy on hard maybe.
Coming back when I can finish this song👍
Omg are you even human 😂 this is so amazing I got halfway and failed and that was in only expert 😂 I can’t imagine playing expert+ I wouldn’t last 2 seconds
yea lemme tell ya, ex+ is pretty crazy, i got about 1/3rd in
@@Tydirium5240 i passed expert+ first try with a 74%
i just passed ex+ with an 81.1%
@@maotio i guess i just suck lol :P
i held the top 10 score for expert for about 30 mins lol i’m now like 87th
Great job! I can beat this song comfortably on Expert, but Expert+ it's a huge struggle for me. You did awesome! Great job again!
I love the level bit I don't think it exceeds ghost in difficulty
It goes slot harder tho
I wish they had recorded the video with the perspective in which you also see it in the background, either on the right or on one of the sides✌️
Tbh ghost is still harder
@@Caboaty I've beat both of them and ghost is harder
The fact you could do this is crazy and I’ve tried this before and only made it about a minute in before I failed so I know how hard that level is
I like the new ost but I hate the new notes. They make the game feel less simple
I agree. I also don't really like the new trail things, if you're just watching a video they seem fine, but when you're actually playing the game they just make everything look cluttered and confusing.
@@skriela-la-li9767 yeah hopefully they will add an option to turn them off or someone will make a mod
It just makes me happy to see people playing it like i do
ghost is still harder
epic thing to come home to after being gone for a week
The actual final boss of Beatsaber
Yesterday, I made it to 2:24 out of 3:31 or so on expert, 3 times, but I couldn’t make it past 1:05 of curtains on expert
2:51 reminds me of when i played undertale when i was younger, and got the omega flower fight after beating his 6 heart stages
Wow i you are 100% the best beat saber player in the world like I can barely even do that song on expert mode
camellia really popped off with this one
*Ghost and light it up has left the chat*
sounds like if doom and undertale did a collab
I’m having a hard time following without reduced debris on.
LS: this is the hardest map!
also LS: *almost gets an FC*
Same with spin Eternally I have a brother that can beat spin eternally and can't get past even the first segment of ghost
oh my god it hasn't even been a day and someone has made a map of this song
this is ost!
@@blyg9992 seems like u dont get the joke
That's the beat Saber community for you
oh i didnt know this channel existed with so many subs
i only knew the shorts channel
One of my fav songs. on expert mode so far. has alot of blocks. cool moves. challanging parts and speed. Really love it
the fact that he still got SS after missing a few...I could never
I NEEEEEEEEEEEEED MORE OF THE NEW NOTES.
still cant believe this is an ost thing. i wouldve imagined only other players would make this crazy of a mapping style
*all I wanted was 1 saber mode for Ghost*
İ just dont get how people can actully can do this
I haven’t played the new update yet so I’m not sure if the trails will confuse me or help me. Either way I’m excited to find out
Its kind of confusing on harder maps, but on the more chill maps they’re just so satisfying in a way.
Bro you’re shoulder’s hurt in This OST. There’s like literally no break in this OST pack.
I nope'd out of expert after 30 or so seconds :D
It's a true Camellia map. as in: at least 1 difficulty harder then the other ost maps.
The beat tho
LStoazt: my shoulders there so DeAd
ME: playing on just expert
“I forgot to press record”
Its fun watching the combo go up like crazy
My arms hurt from playing that map
I wouldn't care about pain or exhaustment if I could barely beat songs like this.
But it's my favorite song of the new 6 songs. It's pretty cool! :P
God teir. Nice job LSToast!
I love this song/level because of the challenge. The reason it's hard level is because it is Fast, throws random things at you fast, and It is long making it tiering.
What are some beat saber songs you’d recommend for me and also I think your really good at beat saber and I also think you should do some more boneworks videos