I am a table tennis player myself and have never seen an umpire taking so much influence in a high class match like that. All she wants is attention. It is unbelievable how she destroys the concentration without even explaining what she is doing wrong. Some serves are not perfectly after the rules but without any advantage getting out of it. Also the yellow and red card are totally over the top. Shame on that lady that only wants to have a short moment of triumph there.
Obviously you haven't play table tennis for long. She explained that the serve was not tossed high enough. And the only reason she gave both of those cards, was because Ding Ning did not agree and you are not allowed to second guess the umpire.
the toss has to be above the net line. so it was legal. Again some refs are stricter while some are lenient. The umpire completely overreacted with the yellow and red card. Played State for 4 years just so you know
+T Cheng, after going 41:49 make the video speed x0.25 slo-mo and measure the height. the rule is you have to throw it at least 6 inches high; no matter how up your hand is already or how much down you let it fall. here you will see she barely thrown it up, she just hit the ball after falling down. +Ayush Krishnan Chakravarthy, please please read service rules before making public comment. +Keenan Southall, well said
Certainly the umpire spoiled the match, even though her servicr was kinda gray.. It's a FINAL OF THE OLYMPIC. She did not seem to undeterstand the significance of the match. "Suspicious" should be treated as merit. She hundred present should not call faults. Beside that, Li's performance was said to be way higher than Ding, both mentarily and technically. I reckon Li would win anyway even if DN wouldn't get any faults. LXX was something else on this match.Amazingly stable and calm.
8:10 , 100% fault 17:20, 100% fault 41:40, the ball isn't visible in this angle so it's hard to see, but most likely the height of the toss wasn't enough from Ding's hands. A very good call, but maybe a red card was a little too much, especially in a stage like this. I feel bad for Li Xiaoxia because all she did was play better than Ding here, she did nothing wrong and she had to be in this controversy and isn't getting enough credit from people
Actually most ding's serves have problem. She always throws the ball with an angle towards herself, not vertically like li. So it's not the judge's fault at all to punish her.
Either way, the Referee's decision will be debated, whether she made ruled against Ding Lin or not. If the Referee did not make these decisions, people will start calling her "not enforcing the rule" or "unfair"
The stupid judge just ruined the game. This should have been a very brilliant game, technically li is stronger, but mentally dn is magnificent. If not mentally as strong as Ding Ning, this judge might just ruin a career of such an excellent player. But still thanks to this mean woman, without you we will not see a queen of heart like Ding Ning today, one of the best ever in table tennis.
@@wallacechow7892 no not high enough vertically it was good . But ppl don't understand the rules you have to throw 6 inches and let it drop 6 imches not hitting it right at the top of the throw
How can you not get it? Individual sport and the 2 best players are from China so they play against each other. Just like tennis, sprinting, badminton, and pretty much every other individual sport. LOl
It's actually Li Xiaoxia who was hurt by the call. Li achieved victory all by her skill, she won simply because she was better than Ding here, but stupid people are complaining about the decision. The serve was fault. Maybe giving a red card was a little too much especially in a match like this, but what really should be criticized is, not the umpire, but first, the people who are not understanding the situation properly and just shouting stuff like "The umpire ruined the game." - No, she didn't ruin the game. Second, Ding Ning - Her attitude here was far from appropriate nor true sportsmanship behavior. Yes, I know this is the biggest stage in the sport of table tennis, and it is natural to be very upset&frustrated if you get calls like that in a big stage like this. Very understandable, but still, it was not an appropriate behavior, people just don't get it. Ding Ning has become even better after this event and has accomplished so much more especially after 2015. She is really one of the greatest female table tennis players of all time - very true. She beat Li in 2016 Rio Olympics and she deserved the gold medal - so true. But the umpire ruined this game?????? This match is fixed??????? Are you kidding me? Li Xiaoxia dominated in terms of skills in most moments in this series. She was clearly the better player here and she well deserved this title. I am sad that the top comments in this video are the ones that are talking about the umpire calls and just complaining about it.. People are not giving enough credit to Li Xiaoxia and don't understand how strong she was in this 2012 olympics.
In the Laws of Table Tennis, Law 2.6.2 states: 2.6.2 The server shall then project the ball near vertically upwards, without imparting spin, so that it rises at least 16cm (6.3 inches) after leaving the palm of the free hand... Ding Ning serve at 41:40 ??? .... very creative. Never seen anything like this !!
First, the stupid umpire knows nothing about a legal serve. Second, Ding Ning was so emotionally fragile face to an unfair judgement. Hope she learned a lesson from 4 years ago and beat Li XX in Rio.
is Li X X ability under than ding ning.?!?whaaatt? ! boey You have TO get your brain checked.Li XiAoxiq is faster than Ding Ning and her looping quality is better too. also she has more Power than Her. İ mean Li's Playing Style is very very better than DN. ALSO Li is smarter than Dn in THE play. everybody knows this ,the coaches, the players in China... Finally Li XiAoxiq lost the match because she Got à lot of injuries which left hər away from the table in 2015 and in Earlys 2016,unfortunately .she couldnt Train systematically. İ mean she got very very unlucky problems FOR à sportperson. Although that problems occured, she did well in the match. she was nearly the Winner. in the Last set if she could get some points now the champ would be her.but anyway ..WE all know she is öne of the bests. and ı bet if 2012 olympics ding ning hadnt got that penality, the Winner wouldnt be different.because Li was in Form at that time and the one who was closer TO THE title was Li XiAoxiq before that penality.
I thought dings serves were fine, i hope the video was checked and any action needed was taken. Ding plays all over the world and im sure shes not had an umpire like that before.
My question wasn't specific to table tennis. Practically any Olympic individual sport can potentially come down to two athletes from the same country facing off in the finals.
+Yong Geun Song Because Ding Ning didn't start her serve right away, instead she reach for the towel, maybe to wipe the tears from her face. I suggest the referee call that a violation because Ding Ning delayed the game.
I see this video many times, ding ning did make some serves not valid, either not vertical, or not high enough. She got 2 points lost, because first point is the invalid serving, second point is taken for her throw the ball back while she was supposed to serve.
you're wrong. look carefully and you'll see that Ding Ning's mental is by far stronger than Li Xiaoxia's. that's why she was so close to win the second set.
Yea, Li seems mean, no heart and everything, although they are taught to be cool when in match, but she didn't even apologize for a let ball... She seems to be a bad person to be with
It's a strategy and China really are people of competitiveness. It's more heartbreaking for them to lose against their own team rather than losing from other countries
So unfair. If the judge takes the dominance in a game, then the game is pointless. Shame on her. Now that she likes spotlight so much, she should probably get her authority ass off that high seat and apologize.
I see it often - players break rules, if umpire points it out, they become angry, it is like "it is an international match, you can't catch my faults here; catch them only when i play at my basement table." To measure the height of the faulty serve, go to 41:49, make the video speed x0.25 slo-mo. here you will see she barely thrown it up, she just hit the ball after falling down. Totally good judgment by the umpire for the whole situation. though some chineses still want to make the fact fishy, without telling that all the faults pointed by the umpire were correct too.
In the 1970s didn’t stellan bengsston and others have a stooping serve? Surbek and Joyner used in the 1980s. Did Gabor Gergeley even throw the ball up? Check out the great Hungarians beat China in North Korea 1979 on Kamplar’s site…
The referee was wrong to give Ding a yellow and a red card. She should know better than this. It was unfair because she purposely wasted both the players time.
Find a measure for yourself and check where 16cm is, it's the length of a female hand. NO ONE would throw a ball lower than 16cm, it's almost impossible..
ok, serve is legal, but it is not the reason Ding lost. Liu was better and she deserved. And a champion cannot be destroyed by such a small case, in that time Ding was not ready enough to become champion in that time. no need to be unfair and scorn Liu's success and effort
My name Ding Ning I am elite Pong pong player of China. My opponent here lose because she play with emotion Real table tennis player have no emotion. This is why we all cut hair like boy and train 1 day for 16 hours each day. My opponent bring shame to family by show so much emotion she will for sure be exiled from the federation
The umpire is stupid, but what I'm even angrier about is Li Xiaoxia. Why did she "cho"ed at 45:25? The ball hit the net, so she shouldn't cho at all. That person doesn't have any sportsmanship.
now each of them has won an olympic gold, i feel great for both of them..
San Disk thank you for being the only respectful person
Yess
We have waited for four years for a real game.
I am a table tennis player myself and have never seen an umpire taking so much influence in a high class match like that. All she wants is attention. It is unbelievable how she destroys the concentration without even explaining what she is doing wrong. Some serves are not perfectly after the rules but without any advantage getting out of it. Also the yellow and red card are totally over the top. Shame on that lady that only wants to have a short moment of triumph there.
Obviously you haven't play table tennis for long. She explained that the serve was not tossed high enough. And the only reason she gave both of those cards, was because Ding Ning did not agree and you are not allowed to second guess the umpire.
the toss has to be above the net line. so it was legal. Again some refs are stricter while some are lenient. The umpire completely overreacted with the yellow and red card. Played State for 4 years just so you know
+Keenan Southall you have no idea what you are talking about mate, just shut up
+T Cheng, after going 41:49 make the video speed x0.25 slo-mo and measure the height. the rule is you have to throw it at least 6 inches high; no matter how up your hand is already or how much down you let it fall. here you will see she barely thrown it up, she just hit the ball after falling down.
+Ayush Krishnan Chakravarthy, please please read service rules before making public comment.
+Keenan Southall, well said
Tholodem.. Mn
I can barely follow just watching. These athletes are truly gifted
This is the second time I watch this match..i hope Ding Ning win this time
she won it this Olhmpics :D
Certainly the umpire spoiled the match, even though her servicr was kinda gray.. It's a FINAL OF THE OLYMPIC. She did not seem to undeterstand the significance of the match. "Suspicious" should be treated as merit. She hundred present should not call faults.
Beside that, Li's performance was said to be way higher than Ding, both mentarily and technically. I reckon Li would win anyway even if DN wouldn't get any faults. LXX was something else on this match.Amazingly stable and calm.
Omg I just clicked on this I didn't know table tennis got this intense XD
Then I go to man's final and it's China vs China...
and you will see the third is also chinese
You wont see that anymore
+Charles Yongqi (FanyCharles) agreed!
agree what
+Charles Yongqi (FanyCharles) forget, i'm just watching the same final, same player, Just 4 years later :"D
Such a shame. Referee totally destroyed the game. An olympic finals game.
8:10
17:20
41:40
8:10
17:20
41:40
8:10 , 100% fault
17:20, 100% fault
41:40, the ball isn't visible in this angle so it's hard to see, but most likely the height of the toss wasn't enough from Ding's hands.
A very good call, but maybe a red card was a little too much, especially in a stage like this. I feel bad for Li Xiaoxia because all she did was play better than Ding here, she did nothing wrong and she had to be in this controversy and isn't getting enough credit from people
Ding ning also made some other serves looks invalid, but the umpire didn't noticed them due to her angle.
Actually most ding's serves have problem. She always throws the ball with an angle towards herself, not vertically like li. So it's not the judge's fault at all to punish her.
To the ITTF, fire the umpire!!!! This was a very crucial match !!!! To the umpire, I play and compete, so I know, Ding Ning's serve is LEGAL. !!!!
裁判已被終身取消裁判資格，但她已影響了這場決賽賽果
@@znkttt , Is there any information about the referee?
Basically it also shows that ding ning didn't get concentrated or focus enough while she serves, she did make other 30+ serves valid anyway.
The camera angle was wrong,
The camera should be move to the far Left or far Right so that the player doesn't block the view too much.
Great video - thank you for sharing!
Table Tennis My favorite Sports
Ding ning can not lose not in this world. Give are a minute she is good. Give her a week she is great. Give her six months she is unbeatable.
Either way, the Referee's decision will be debated, whether she made ruled against Ding Lin or not. If the Referee did not make these decisions, people will start calling her "not enforcing the rule" or "unfair"
Ding ning❤️
I love Liu Shiwen smarty little girl,she looks like than a little doll,I love it so much when she plays!!!
10:13 when you are bored in olympic final
It's a good lesson to table tennis players and coaches, very classic :-)
Ding Ning cried then and cried now. Different reasons.
ding neng will sure capture the gold nest year! #dingningolympicchamp2016
she did
yeah, she just did
great game ！that moment is the one all the players looking for ！
The stupid judge just ruined the game. This should have been a very brilliant game, technically li is stronger, but mentally dn is magnificent. If not mentally as strong as Ding Ning, this judge might just ruin a career of such an excellent player. But still thanks to this mean woman, without you we will not see a queen of heart like Ding Ning today, one of the best ever in table tennis.
Queen of hearts Ding Ning 💛
Apa konsekuensi setelah kena kartu kuning dan merah,tolong di jawab ?
8:13 whats wrong with her serve??
She didn't throw the ball high enough i think
Tony Wu no it’s about it not being throw vertically up
@@wallacechow7892 no not high enough vertically it was good . But ppl don't understand the rules you have to throw 6 inches and let it drop 6 imches not hitting it right at the top of the throw
I love this event so much. It's literally the most entertaining Olympic sport. :)
xiaoxia shout n frown always haha
dingning cried when she lost at the end of the game...
awesome match~
Personally I find it rude to celebrate a point if it was caused by an opponents mistake, points should only be celebrated if you worked for it.
Imagine facing invalid serves whole game?? That's the reason she must've celebrated
How can you not get it? Individual sport and the 2 best players are from China so they play against each other. Just like tennis, sprinting, badminton, and pretty much every other individual sport. LOl
It's actually Li Xiaoxia who was hurt by the call.
Li achieved victory all by her skill, she won simply because she was better than Ding here, but stupid people are complaining about the decision.
The serve was fault. Maybe giving a red card was a little too much especially in a match like this, but what really should be criticized is, not the umpire, but first, the people who are not understanding the situation properly and just shouting stuff like "The umpire ruined the game." - No, she didn't ruin the game. Second, Ding Ning - Her attitude here was far from appropriate nor true sportsmanship behavior. Yes, I know this is the biggest stage in the sport of table tennis, and it is natural to be very upset&frustrated if you get calls like that in a big stage like this. Very understandable, but still, it was not an appropriate behavior, people just don't get it.
Ding Ning has become even better after this event and has accomplished so much more especially after 2015. She is really one of the greatest female table tennis players of all time - very true. She beat Li in 2016 Rio Olympics and she deserved the gold medal - so true.
But the umpire ruined this game?????? This match is fixed??????? Are you kidding me?
Li Xiaoxia dominated in terms of skills in most moments in this series. She was clearly the better player here and she well deserved this title.
I am sad that the top comments in this video are the ones that are talking about the umpire calls and just complaining about it.. People are not giving enough credit to Li Xiaoxia and don't understand how strong she was in this 2012 olympics.
8:14 why fault?
You need to thank this commentator for translating imperial to metric
1:20 - the big moment of the ref. She will think of it the rest of her life.
Why are all comments SO stupid?
SPOILER
China loses.
SPOILER
China wins.
In the Laws of Table Tennis, Law 2.6.2 states:
2.6.2 The server shall then project the ball near vertically upwards, without imparting spin, so that it rises at least 16cm (6.3 inches) after leaving the palm of the free hand...
Ding Ning serve at 41:40 ??? .... very creative. Never seen anything like this !!
Tomahawk serve. Kenta Matsudaira uses it a lot.
Why won't you guy upload the 2016 finals to this channel?
Lmaoo this umpire actually called serve violations in a CHN vs CHN Olympics final ? Lady is nuts. Ruined the game.
First, the stupid umpire knows nothing about a legal serve. Second, Ding Ning was so emotionally fragile face to an unfair judgement. Hope she learned a lesson from 4 years ago and beat Li XX in Rio.
And indeed she did.
Actually, Li.X.X 's ability is under Ding.N . If the competition change a new umpire, maybe the winner is Ding.N.
and she did, and i'm sure the trashy umpire has lost her job..
is Li X X ability under than ding ning.?!?whaaatt? ! boey You have TO get your brain checked.Li XiAoxiq is faster than Ding Ning and her looping quality is better too. also she has more Power than Her. İ mean Li's Playing Style is very very better than DN. ALSO Li is smarter than Dn in THE play. everybody knows this ,the coaches, the players in China...
Finally Li XiAoxiq lost the match because she Got à lot of injuries which left hər away from the table in 2015 and in Earlys 2016,unfortunately .she couldnt Train systematically. İ mean she got very very unlucky problems FOR à sportperson.
Although that problems occured, she did well in the match. she was nearly the Winner. in the Last set if she could get some points now the champ would be her.but anyway ..WE all know she is öne of the bests.
and ı bet if 2012 olympics ding ning hadnt got that penality, the Winner wouldnt be different.because Li was in Form at that time and the one who was closer TO THE title was Li XiAoxiq before that penality.
👹
まじこの時の李暁霞強すぎやろw
falfal この4年後、丁寧が金とりましたけどねw
しかし、丁寧のイエローカード(審判が1分経ったコール2回したのに水分補給）といい、イエロー・レッドカード(多分6の倍数じゃない時のタオル)といい、こればかりは仕方ない・・・
Dont understand why Ding did shake the hand of that ... umpire....
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE SONG AT THE START??
I thought dings serves were fine, i hope the video was checked and any action needed was taken. Ding plays all over the world and im sure shes not had an umpire like that before.
Dude, have you ever watched any Olympic competitions before?
Whats the name of song in 0.53??
My question wasn't specific to table tennis. Practically any Olympic individual sport can potentially come down to two athletes from the same country facing off in the finals.
great for Li Xiaoxia!!!
42:28のイエローカードとレッドカードは、何？どうして出たの？
違反サーブとタオルを使った(ルール違反)から
JeremyB787 6の倍数以外のタオルが1番の理由でしょうね。タオルに手をかけた瞬間に出しましたから
Well of course China vs China. They're the best ping pong players.
i dont even know why you have to say that, everyone already knew...
晓霞看着就有冠军相，气度和气场让我想起来张怡宁，虽然庆祝方式不一样。
Judge name?
because they both got into the finals and their were obvioously at least two chinese in the same tournament
42:00 why was 2 points given at there?
+Yong Geun Song Because Ding Ning didn't start her serve right away, instead she reach for the towel, maybe to wipe the tears from her face. I suggest the referee call that a violation because Ding Ning delayed the game.
I see this video many times, ding ning did make some serves not valid, either not vertical, or not high enough. She got 2 points lost, because first point is the invalid serving, second point is taken for her throw the ball back while she was supposed to serve.
China always gets to play in the gold medal matches because most Asian countries do good at Table Tennis
我觉得丁宁的发球不是特别标准，但球证的判罚未免太严厉。这令双方无法发挥最佳水准，丁宁输得不服，对奥运留下阴影，李晓霞也赢得不完美。
抛的不是很直，但是沒有到犯規的程度。裁判滿扯的。
1 ice 0
It is two points why?
Ding Ning's serves do look ilegal most of the times, but I'm not an expert.
at least you understand very well that you are NOT an expert..
this umpire is so unfair, giving points for no reason, luckily she didn't turn out in Rio! please fire her
you're wrong. look carefully and you'll see that Ding Ning's mental is by far stronger than Li Xiaoxia's. that's why she was so close to win the second set.
L.X.X. was coocky like a ZJK, nice play by Ding Ning. 5* Video!
No, I have never followed table tennis, that's why I was wondering...it'd have been more helpful if you provided an explanation...
I find that the shouting is a bit excessive and disrespectful in this environment especially since she is playing against a teammate.
i didn't find it
Yea, Li seems mean, no heart and everything, although they are taught to be cool when in match, but she didn't even apologize for a let ball... She seems to be a bad person to be with
anirai1516 it's all about momentum really
It's a strategy and China really are people of competitiveness. It's more heartbreaking for them to lose against their own team rather than losing from other countries
讲实话是抛得不够高，因为丁宁以为自己蹲下去就可以把抛物线高度拉长，但是裁判觉得你抛得不够。真的是各人看法不一样导致的。如果我没记错之前裁判判过李晓霞发球遮挡好像。
李晓霞也是不幸碰到一个裁判影响状态不说，队友输了以后还利用舆论来压迫她，说她胜之不武。
but the vertical height of these serves really did look shorter than 16cm.
Bugun 16 - yanvar LiXioXia ni tugʻilgan kuni ekan, kun tarixida aytishdi SportTvdan. Qani koʻraylikchi qanday oʻyin boʻlgan ekan
Kevjumba???
i think ding ning is pretty
I think umpire is prettier !
Who cares?
How they played after that in team match😅
dont you just hate it mwen she goes DAAAAA
31:53 this is clearly hiding the ball but no umpire call
So unfair. If the judge takes the dominance in a game, then the game is pointless. Shame on her. Now that she likes spotlight so much, she should probably get her authority ass off that high seat and apologize.
The toss wasn't high!! She tried to cover it up by going down herself....
She served legally
London , Scotland 😂 40 secs
I like to watch it)
I see it often - players break rules, if umpire points it out, they become angry, it is like "it is an international match, you can't catch my faults here; catch them only when i play at my basement table."
To measure the height of the faulty serve, go to 41:49, make the video speed x0.25 slo-mo. here you will see she barely thrown it up, she just hit the ball after falling down.
Totally good judgment by the umpire for the whole situation. though some chineses still want to make the fact fishy, without telling that all the faults pointed by the umpire were correct too.
But can you please agree that there is no need for a red card?
Why do they hit the ball with their head?
they don't, watch kenta matsudaira's serve or well Ding Ning's serve and you will see!. Have a nice day.
+Kaitlyn White why are u so stupid
In the 1970s didn’t stellan bengsston and others have a stooping serve? Surbek and Joyner used in the 1980s. Did Gabor Gergeley even throw the ball up? Check out the great Hungarians beat China in North Korea 1979 on Kamplar’s site…
I think the Chinese woman won.
Ytremz simultaneously a chinese woman lost
On the bright side, China can't lose!
China lost and China won.
i bet that china will win this match!
+latiosLai i was surprised that China had one
+latiosLai You're the same person that posted in the men's match!
yea
Who is here after watching 2016 Rio Final? Why?
Does anyone know the identity of the referee?
no, but nationality is italian.
The referee was wrong to give Ding a yellow and a red card. She should know better than this. It was unfair because she purposely wasted both the players time.
Aside from the Referee's decision, it's Ding Ning's lack of mental toughness that cost her the gold.
Find a measure for yourself and check where 16cm is, it's the length of a female hand. NO ONE would throw a ball lower than 16cm, it's almost impossible..
ok, serve is legal, but it is not the reason Ding lost. Liu was better and she deserved.
And a champion cannot be destroyed by such a small case, in that time Ding was not ready enough to become champion in that time.
no need to be unfair and scorn Liu's success and effort
China v China AGAIN...........
My name Ding Ning I am elite Pong pong player of China. My opponent here lose because she play with emotion
Real table tennis player have no emotion.
This is why we all cut hair like boy and train 1 day for 16 hours each day. My opponent bring shame to family by show so much emotion she will for sure be exiled from the federation
Non-sense what you say!
2 years later but hes mocking the way chinese write english.
丁寧が可哀想
横浜南 実際、微妙なところじゃないですか？
イエローカードが出たときは主審が2回も「タイム」と言った後に水分補給してますし、イエロー&レッドカードのときは足して6の倍数ではないのにタオルを使ってますし(その前のフォルトはおかしいと思いますが)
The ding service is not trusting serve. If I become umpire . I will call the player to change the serve
個球證……真係……
The umpire is stupid, but what I'm even angrier about is Li Xiaoxia. Why did she "cho"ed at 45:25? The ball hit the net, so she shouldn't cho at all. That person doesn't have any sportsmanship.
She choed because she just won a set. However, she didn't raise her hand or say anything about the let, so that's bad sportsmanship.
Two great Players! A Fantastic Match...but in the middle of this wonderful game,a lousy Umpire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate it when they shout after they score a point
So did China win or did China win?
Both.
All serves which Ding Ning was penalised were valid.
There is more letting go in modern times.