Tingyun is really his best support for him I really like how she can give him a lot of uptime on his burst and she need way less sp than bronya so you can use bronya on the other tea
Yeah I agree with your points. he's unironically very flexible. Can work with a tonnnn of different supports and doesn't only just need tingyun like JY.
The difference between IL and blade is that Blade can be slapped on as a subDPS on any team, while IL needs the whole team built for him. Blade at max DPS is skill point positive, while Dan Heng is very negative. Of course it's cheaper to raise 1 hypercarry than it is to run dual carry teams.
Yeah I should've prefaced that in the blade section. This was a DPS comparison test, but people will forget that Blade is a plug and go dps that fits on any team. He's still so good for any content and is one of the best Sub-DPS. Once jingliu comes out he'll shine even more
@@codyivvel1728 u cant even use 26sp in one rot or get 26 in 1 rotation but i get u , u meant danheng e2+ eats 26 sp like every 8-10 rotation ...where r u going to use them skills tho otherwise? gonna hoard them? i run blade with pela sw sometimes and so many times ive been capped on skill points that i end up using it on my healer so they regen energy faster , sw and pela already have shit ton of ult regen they dont even need anything , plus freq e skill from sw ruins weakness typing all for 2k dmg , even if u run bronya with him he will have shit ton of sp to spare...i like danheng more cuz the stacked sp is actually being used with better advantage btw my main comment was abt how blade isnt skill positive character , idk how i am being asked abt 26 skill points consumption
Yeah he is very disgustingly OP in terms of damage. I ran natasha with -1 sp each rotation and he's still able to delete content fast before he can even brick. Of course, once content scales and enemies have more HP, it'll be harder for DHIL since he will evetually brick. So someone like blade over 15+ cycles will deal as much if not more damage than DHIL. But there's no endgame content like that currently that rewards consistency over burst
I think with alll this powercreep and the fact it’s a Honkai game. We’ll see a increase in content difficulty in the near future. I honestly don’t care if IL gets powercreeped sometime. (So far none of the new dps look to come anywhere close) but he’s just so damn cool to play and his attacks are so glorious.
Supports will only make him even more optimal, all he need that mythical harmony that gives skill point with increase energy regen rate by 10-15% buff.
I've been maining the pre puberty dan heng and was saving for the glow up dan heng. I managed to pull him with Geopard but shielder bro came first and I lost hope. With the power of copium relics that I just took most of it from Welt for some reason he obliterates enemies. The only downside is that he is very very skill point hungry but if the enemies are dead I don't really care.
Yeah like you said, if enemies dead it's good! And right now, for most content, he does so much damage that he will clear it before he runs out of gas and bricks
For those of you asking why I used Natasha w/ IL in MoX 6 and Luocha for Jing Yuan... I had to make it harder for IL by putting an SP negative healer. If I gave IL Luocha, he wouldve prob finish mox 6 1st half in 18 cycles even though the elite boss is NOT weak to imaginary (weak to lightning, ice, phys) EDIT: Disclaimer Both BLADE and JY are really good characters still and they're able to clear all content (this is just a showcase to show the damage output IL is able to do compare to his lore accurate friends) Did Blade get powercrept? NOPE. Blade's role will be very good in the the future, since he's also a sub-dps that has good auto play, can fit on any team, and deal good damage w/ little SP investment. Overall blade is just a comfier and more reliable character to have in my opinion for auto battle. Lunae's auto battle is not too good. ALSO for those that wondered about an optimal Blade/Bronya rotation. I didn't have enough resources on my 1st early access account to get relics for his 135 spd, but I got the speed req now & I went back to the testing servers. Guess what? Blade took 3 out of 4 turns to clear the boss (same amount of turns as this video... 3). Guess how many turns Lunae took? 1 out of 4 turn to clear the boss (same amount of turns as this video... 1) In the video I talked about cycles relative to the number of turns they had (both had 2) since both characters weren't in their "optimal" build. But now that we're talking about a more precise and optimal comparison between the 2 characters, then we need a more precise scale to compare them by, so I used turns. because obviously even Herta can 0 cycle MoX 5, the enemy HP is not enough to sustain optimal builds. Blade is a DPS that has consistent damge, good SP usage, and can also be a sub-dps that can be plugged anywhere to perform. But if you check every theory crafter's findings and their comparisons, you will find out that DHIL damage output is far above any other DPS over a 5 cycle fight. Did DHIL powercrept blade? No they have different roles. But is DHIL damage better than Blade? Yes.
the strong part about blade with bronya is that blade can have 2 turns back to back every turn, no other dps can do that do to the higth SP usage, but your bronya was going first than blade that makes his value with bronya go down A LOT, blade can easily 0 cicle if bronya go just after him
Yeah I mentioned this in the pinned comment and tested it out on my main (still decently behind lunae in damage output ofc), but since this was test servers w/ limited resources, I couldn't farm to speed tune and still run his 4pc. Many people will have this problem as well, Blade has an extremely low base speed of 98. He will need speed boots + 12 extra speed to hit 135 (that's 5-6 substats for speed). Unless you're lucky or farming non-stop, it will be very hard to hit that thresh hold and still have similar crit ratios w/ Lunae. Same could be said for Lunae. If I ran him speed boots instead of attack (135 lunae, 134 bronya) he will delete any content within 2/4 turns where blade needs 4.
As you saw at 3:45, lunae didn't even need bronya skill and he already one shot the floor in 1 turn. And people will say if you give Lunae 135 speed and bronya 134, he won't have enough skill points... He will, GrimroGacha made a video on this comp already and I've already tested this with using a different strategy. But you can sustain this fine w/ 2 SP+ supports and 1 semi positive support. Yes he will need to do a normal attack 1 out of the 4 turns, but he still gets 3 turn in the first cycle to deal max output. But yes, I mentioned this as well, Blade's roll is different, he's a great SUB-DPS as well that has insane damage w/ little sp usage. So he's more than still OP.
I went back to the testing servers. Used all my resources. Guess what? Blade took 3 out of 4 turns to clear the boss (same amount of turns as this video... 3). Guess how many turns Lunae took? 1 out of 4 turn to clear the boss (same amount of turns as this video... 1) In the video I talked about cycles relative to the number of turns they had (both had 2) since both characters weren't in their "optimal" build. But now that we're talking about a more precise and optimal comparison between the 2 characters, then we need a more precise scale to compare them by, so I used turns. because obviously even Herta can 0 cycle MoX 5, the enemy HP is not enough to sustain optimal builds. Blade is a DPS that has consistent damge, good SP usage, and can also be a sub-dps that can be plugged anywhere to perform. But if you check every theory crafter's findings and their comparisons, you will find out that DHIL damage output is far above any other DPS over a 5 cycle fight. Did DHIL powercrept blade? No they have different roles. But is DHIL damage better than Blade? Yes.
@@recker4267 Yeah, overall building Blade is EXTREMELY hard even I can't do it because it relies on good relics. since he requires such an insane amount of substats for speed and getting that w/ correct 4pc is like super hard (would prob take months if unlucky). But overall blade's damage is good over time, he will out damage Lunae once Lunae Bricks his rotation. But Lunae's burst is far stronger.
To make a correct comparison, I think it would be better to compare IL and blade with their respective best team, for IL pela, tingyun, healer and blade pela(no yukong) bronya and healer(lynx when she can be used)
@@zmm1337Another point to mention for future comparation or something, the best possible combo with blade is to make blade with 135-6 speed and bronya 134 , this is his best possible combo ,he attack 4 times per Cycle (blade- bronya E -Blade -Bronya E) Thats because i said pela Instead of yukong, pela dont need sp
Hey ! As someone who mains Blade, Jingyuan and DanhengIL, I am against comparing them to each other. I'm like that one parent that says they love all their children equally but I actually mean it in my case xD Tho to be fair, using Yukong with Blade isn't doing as much for him as Imbibitor, Blade's attack scaling is miniscule. I would've swapped Yukong for Pela there
Hey thank you for your respectful take & opinion (very rare to see that nowadays)! I do agree that they are all very good DPS that can clear the content we currently have. However, I want to showcase the damage to help viewers have a point of reference to how IL's damage is in comparison to his competition. I definitely should've preface though that Blade is a great plug and go unit that works on almost any team as a sub-dps, as I mentioned that his burst damage isn't too good, but that's because he's not a hypercarry, but instead a sub-dps (when jing liu comes he will get big value).
Oh yeah the reason why I wanted to use Yukong was to try and get blade to 0 cycle MoX-5. with Pela, Blade will even be 2 cycles behind IL & IL would still 0 cycle it effortlessly (this guy legit is a nuke). However, I definitely should've added a team w/ Blade as sub-dps to IL because he works wonderfully w/ him. This was the team I used: IL, Blade, SP+ sustain, Yukong. This team is actually cracked and I might make a showcase of this
Honestly i am the same with your take but Jingyuan is clearly get so much Power Creep in this point even Himeko can compare with him with Break comp bcs Fire have double break dmg. His only problem thats her only source of Dmg is LL but his ultimate cost high in 130 then Hoyoverse didnt even try to fix his multiplier and put so much restriction into his gameplay. Its just so unfair honestly for JY, when every other limited can do much and without so many restrictions into their kit. Even Topaz probably gonna powercreep him because she not release can be change and her follow up attack is consistent with good speed and have advance foward option. Even LL cant take Enemy position in spd base. He just need a buff in his spd and restriction then its not gonna even powercreep anyone
Yukong does nothing for blade, just put another dps/sub dps character. Or another healer. You want him to be full or at least high hp every time you ult so that his counter passive deals more damage. Also I think using Loucha as healer for both blade and lunae team is fair cause of the blade hp ult thing. Still, I'm glade bladie did good even in this situation.
Oh he did better than good, I sorta cucked him, forgot to raise his at 4/6. I just wanted to show his damage vs. IL. Their roles are very different. Blade is a sub-dps that doesn't insane damage. IL is a hyper carry nuke. Blade is a plug and go machine on any team and his consistent damage is good as well as his auto play. Jing Yuan is still solid but IL just does JY's role but better.
Bro the animated short was so good. Had to edit my video last minute right before release to incorporate some b-rolls of it. They really are trying to send this guy's numbers to the moon
it would be fair for JY if you replace Pela to Yukong or Bronya for increase DMG since you're using SPD boots so you don't need asta because you use Pela for Daniel for SP sufficient
Yeah that's a fair point, but the damage provided by yukong won't be so great to make a difference and yukong isn't e6 so tuning her w/ lightning lord is kinda of yeah... I hate how lightning lord works and how many freaking restrictions they put on jing yuan lol
actually scratch the Yukong e6 part, just watched a Jing yuan clear with Yukong it's fine don't need E6. So yeah, the damage will most likely be extremely helpful. Will test again once I have the chance. But even if it's possible Jing yuan will still be 1 cycle or same cycle as IL who is against an elite enemy that is only weak to lightning
i should probably switch my set on dan heng from the imaginary imprison that boosts crit to the set this guy has cause my dan heng deals like 2 times less , deals a bit above with ruan mei tho
No point of rolling for any characters anymore if you saved up for him. Dan Heng IL stomps all content not to mention EZ 1 million damage E2S1+. Outlasses every other DPS by a mile Hoyo must be on drugs
@@jjillalalac2487i'm quite pissed because i have all the other dps in game and now they are all sitting in bench cuz blade and il dan heng alone can clear everything, hoyo has favorit path and it's destruction (i jeard jingliu is also gonna be broken)
1 million mf are you on drugs????? Only possible in simulated universe 500k is achievable but not 1 million mf hate these kind of mfs who say anything they want
uhh the most optimal is also Yukong beside tingyun, because the talent 12% imaginary boost just from yukong being there is clean not to mention massive atk boost and Crit boost.
His damage is so ridiculous that I cleared current MoC10 stage 1 (yes 1, the two HP petrifying ladies without Img weakness) with E0S1 DHIL with YK/TY/LC in 3 cycles...
Next I'm expecting March7 to get a OP power that changes reality. something like Orihime from Bleach Enemy : ok your friend is mortally wounded hes going to die now. March7: But that's not inside my memories... (boom friend fully healed) Enemy: arGH fine! I attack you instead! March7: NuhAh no you didn't. reality warps, boom atk disappears
They'll probably make her a healer x skill point recover x shield giver. She'll probably be the best support unit in the game if they want to go that far with her.
Yeah his stats are a bit low, since I was testing on early access servers. It could be better. I don't think I gave blade a fair showcase. But the results are still by far favored to IL his damage is just dumb broken.
@@nosneponsnek Yeah for some reason my brain slipped over that. didn't see lol. Blade's damage is yeah less than IL, but his role is way different too. He's a sub-dps that does dps comparable to a hypercarry. Once more supports and characters like Jingliu comes out, blade will get stonks!
Sorry to ask that but could you do a video about do or die teams for daniel? My question comes from the fact that i got some supports like bronya,pela,e6 asta,e2 yukong, but not tyiung or loucha to make he ult early or save skills points. My ideia is to do a kill fast team like farm skill with bronya make them go again with asta etc, but still dont have everyone built and you are pretty smart do you at least belive that could work out?
Yeah I can add that to a later video. I think GrimroGacha made a video on this DHIL build if you haven't seen it yet. Basically DHIL at 135 spd, Bronya 134 spd, DHIL will get 4 attacks, but only 3 of it will be full combo while the other atks will be for regenerating skill point. This seems like an amazing combo for Dan Heng especially if you run your other characters w/ the 4pc passerby to get free skill points.
Danheng is the reason why i play this game. Managed to win 50/50 for him and his lightcone. Him being so broken is only a bonus for me, thanks for the guide 👍
btw kinda surprised his lunae took 3 cycles for mox f6 first side(nat run) , i ran my e1s1 clara(very shit stats trust me) tho i agree its physical weak , i went with bailu tingyun and pela and cleared it it with 18 cycles remaining before anyone asks , no i am not coping i have(for dps) e0s1 seele , clara e1s1 , blade e0s5arlan cone , and danheng e0s0 rn with clara cone but will switch over to dan heng cone if i win 75-25 in my next 7 pulls , outside that my clara currently stands at 75 crit rate 65 crit dmg 3.4k atk without physical dmg globe , 4pc physical set , 2 pc arena , and 110 spd(spd boots) talents r basic lvl 1 , counter talent lvl 7, ult lvl 7 ,e skill lvl 5 , top side physical node is not unlocked
Clara player, respect! But you have to remember, the boss is weak to (Physical, ice, lightning) NOT imaginary. So that fact that he's able to do this is quite insane!
@@zmm1337 i know its physical weakness but my clara stats tho..its hard to build her since neither her sig cone nor any talent /nodes gives any crit to make her build better..65 crt dmg is literally nothing .and i havent grinded out physical set..just couple runs got her mainstats and then f-ed off from there
wtf? DH IL 😮 the powercreep is real but... I´m waifu enjoyer until the end xD my jades are safe for 1.4 good video as always and... Finally, I level up my March 7th at 70/80 for more EHR and finally 30 stars because I freeze Kafka in Moc 10... I saw that strat in another video of you you´re the GOAT
Thank you OG! Like I mentioned in the video I too am hoping to save my jades for Jing Liu and Topaz. This was done during the content creator beta servers, but wish I had all the characters on my main account 😂
Hey bro, i lost my 50/50 to Bronya. Now i dont hsve anything left. Have I lost the chance to get the greatest dps? Will there be someone nearly as powerful as him or maybe even better? Blade does only 50k dmg (without Shuhu's Gift). I wanted Daniel bcoz he does more than 80k sometimes😢. Pls respond.
Hey! Sorry to hear. But don't worry, he's not a must pull. Blade is amazing and still the best Auto dps. DHIL is really bad at auto play. With Blade + Bronya, you have one of the best team in the game. I would definitely save for future chars like Jing Liu / Topaz /Fuxuan
Also my mindset is to typically avoid pulling for meta or characters that deal a lot of damage, because there will always be someone that will do more damage. I like my investment into characters I really like (waifus like jingliu) or characters w/ high usability like Fuxuan, Bronya, and other preservation, healer, harmoney characters (BECAUSE regardless of their element, they can be put on any team!)
Nope. The 8% from rutilant does, but the conditional 20% crit rate from wastelander doesn't. u need 70% on screen. the conditional crit rates doesnt count.
If you're pulling for him good luck! But don't be pressured to pull b/c of his big pp damage! Pull for who you like as you will get the most value from that 👍
I think I'm gonna skip the pull because he need too many supports and skill points to make it work. Sadly he's only main imaginary dps in the game. I hope I'm not miss Jingliu and Topas in Patch 1.4
Yeah he's a support hungry DPS, definitely don't need his damage as it is overkill, but his damage is just like beyond any other rn. Like being able to delete content that isn't even weak to imaginary is just broken
@@zmm1337keyword is right now. That will change when they change the content and try to sell new characters. They already have enemies that sap SP. Supports allow you to use weaker characters you may actually like and make them just as, if not more viable. The simple fact is if you don’t like how he plays, or don’t really like the character, don’t pull him. If you do like him, he can carry a team. Herta can 0-cycle the MoC. Don’t pull for DPS ability.
I mean if u have luocha ita not really a problem, him being need 2 support is just like any other dps and its not a must rather its the meta to play 1 deffensive 2 support and 1 dps, and actually the need of supprt here rather for the buff is actually so the team is sp efficient thats why i think bronya is good for damage but not so good for a long run.
@@FilmFlam-8008 you saying herta can 0 cycle MoC just says alot your not playing MoC Yes any character can 0 CYCLE but that takes alot of TRIES AND GOD RELICS WITH E6 GREAT SUPPORTS But if you're the average player you just cant do those. Pulling for Daniel is a wise choice cause he's a beast of a dps and will be in meta for so long Also sp generator support is already leaked that means they will be released and will just boost daniel in the future
@@RealKuro Oh niceee! But yeah, Planetary Rendezvous is the best w/ Imbibitor. But other lightcones are good too like the BP one since IL already has a ton of %dmg modifiers
As long as the substats are good. If you're aiming for 134 spd, you will need more spd substat rolls. However if you're running attack boots, then 2+2pc is better
i got dan heng yesterday with 60 pulls and my asta is e6 and yukong e2 i will get his light cone next time it fine the one on herta shop will do i just hope i get lucky on the relic hunt which i am not at times lol.
You have Luocha, the most OP support for him IMO so anyone will work well! Lucky guy! But yes that team is perfect. Just make sure to normal attack w/ yukong until ultimate is up if you're behind on skill points
Definitely not needed! The herta one is very good at S5! if you're not into spending, I would recommend to save for a future character that you like since these chars are coming soon: fuxuan, jingliu, topaz
Whats your teams looking like right now? Do you need a DPS? If you're looking to clear content and lacking DPS, yeah he's busted, I mainly showcased him in this video with natasha so people have realistic POV. Best Natasha team for him is: IL, Natasha, Pela(asta, yukong good too just don't use skill often), Tingyun
@@zmm1337 Thanks for your insights! I currently have seele, clara (half built), silverwolf, bailou, and welt for my 5 stars. I notably have an E6 pela which I think may be perfect for jingliu. However, I do not know if I should wait that long to get Jingliu for my 2nd team (currently the half-built clara-sw mono physical) and if she will be as f2p-friendly as DanIeL. Currently I can use the comp daniel-pela-natasha-tingyun if I pull now. However, do you think it would be better if I pull for Jingliu instead (to utilize e6 pela ice shred)?
@@janwilfredcarpizo6515 Oh yeah wait for Jing Liu if you like her. I would recommend to never pull for meta. It's not worth it, like jing yuan situation. All content in the game can be cleared with good invesments in your characters! Clara is perfectly good for your 2nd team, she's good even against content that isn't weak to physical. Wind Daniel is good too! I cleared Moc 10 with only the free 9 characters, and I would say Wind Dan Heng is one of the best DPS still in the game. TLDR: wait for Jing Liu, it'll be worth it
What teams are you currently running? If you don't have Luocha, it's best to use SP positive supports like Pela, Tingyun, Nastsha, IL. Your team is very squishy vs the mommy boss especially if you only have Nastasha. The other strat is to replace pela w/ march 7th or another tank to help w/ survival. IL will have enough damage and will only need 1 support to help him out
I'm sure they have a way to balance mechanics. I.e. release a new support that is super good w/ follow up attacks. Release new enemies that take away skill points (they already did this is phantylia)
His E2 is best, and makes his kit complete, but don't break the wallet for that, he's already godly at E0. Only issue is his auto play is clunky sometimes
What other supports are you running with him with as well? (i.e. bronya, tingyun, pela, yukong,etc.) But if you want a relic set that is his best in any situation, it would be 4pc wild wheat
@@zmm1337 Tingyun however i don't have Loucha nor Bronya (Yukong gets good at E6 and i don't have her at that) so i dunno which char to put next...i'm hoping to get Fu Xuan but as of now i'm using Bailu, even if she's also skill hungry
@@etam8099 Yeah Bailu, IL, Tingyun, and SW will work perfectly fine (you can replace SW for pela in situations where you need to remove enemy buffs). This team will work perfectly fine! wild wheat is a good set. Good luck on your Fuxuan pulls, may she come fast and early!!!
I agree and it's annoying how running JY with anyone else but tingyun feels terrible. He's a character that already has so manyrestrictions. limited damage on demand, and lightning lord is ironically worse when there are more than 1 unit.. He's like a character that is trying to be Destruction, Hunt, and Erudition all at the same time... Instead they should've made him into a real erudition character where his damage on each target increases as there are more enemies, maybe like increase the number of strikes lightning lord does per enemey (i.e. herta & himeko. For example herta passive triggers the more enemies there are).
Blade just needs better support units for his scaling. Yukong doesn't help him as much as she does for IL, in fact the best for him in terms of raw damage output. Once Lynx is out, Blade should fair better with aggro and HP scaling %. I don't think any dps unit coming out will do less damage than JY lol. The fight with the fishes is terrible for him because LL will usually overkill the never-ending adds, otherwise he would clear it much faster doing 'blast' damage instead of RNG hits. Blast as a mechanic is just significantly better for the hardest content in the game since targeted damage on the boss is ideal. That said, IL clearing a few cycles faster doesn't have much value if content can already be cleared consistently with other dps units you already have. Also, his auto gameplay is probably terribly optimized, so IL is a great pull if you like him as a character and/or need help clearing content.
Yeah blade's support options are very poor right now. And yeah you make great points. I mentioned it as well in my worth it section that if you have enough dps, and you don't his gameplay, there's no reason to pull for him. I LOVE nuke burst type characters. So I'm so ecstatic about this. Glass cannon type of guy XD
Blade and DHLI have different play style and options. I’m interested to boost my team’s dps, not only running hypercarry. Blade gives us an option to build enough powerful team with two dps, that’s why I’m waiting for jingliu, that combo is going to be cracked.
You played Blade as a single dps in the team while his biggest selling point is that he easily allows you to add another dps next to him. The two horned guy however doesn't allow that unless its Blade. So a fair comparison would have been Blade+a dps Vs the two horned guy. Hell, Blade can easily allows me to use 3 dpses in the team. Take their total dmg then compare it to the guy who uses 3 sp to dash that dmg. Blade any day.
Yeah this is a fair point, since he's a very plug and go DPS that will fit on any team. However this was just a DPS Comparison test to see the difference in damage between the characters. Once JIng Liu come, I'm sure Blade will even get more stonks!
Omg I knew it! He really become unfair & OP🙈😭the character broke the game now😅 Nevertheless, I look forward to pull him today. Thank you for the awesome video Zeto!😍☄️🙌
Its just funny how JY get Powercreep by Seele and then continuously gettin powercreep by Kafka then Dangheng IL. Give that man a rest 😂. For all honestly JY has good talent but Hoyoverse decide to just BUTCHER IT, not gonna make any buff, nerf his support (TY) and nerf his Trace 😂 but only buff his technique that only do a thing in first round. He even need LC to be compete but still Lose 😩, imagine they buff his LL rotation and make LL mechanic is more helpful than suddenly get bench whatever JY get CC. They just need to speed tune LL make it in 80/90 spd and instead every stack give 10 spd, its should be 5-6 spd, Give his basic can do 1 stack and let LL have 4 stack already not 3, instead of CC block LL, its should let LL do advance foward attack turn but -1 or -2 stack if they are more than 4 stack then when JY is dead LL unleash 10 Stack for finishing (this should be a good combo with Bailu). I just afraid they gonna Butcher Topaz Follow Up Attack, 1 thing for sure make Topaz better that her Follow up has more spd and have advance foward mechanisms
Foe me who always going auto to farm he kinda..... Stupid in negative meaning. The AI kinda stupid too maybe. I have like 3 SP and he refuse to use skill 3 times. Pela Always use her skill. Tingyun kinda fix now so i dont have problem. Also if you Planing 1 turn Cycle you Should use HP boots on Blade. Since HP and Apeed didnt that far so use what most valuable substat had. My Blade was 8K with speed boots so you can surely get more than 10k with HP boots. also i didnt see your Sphere, since Wind Sphere and HP Sphere kinda same you can improve more for blade. *STILL* Blade cant nuke as strong as Dan Heng because what Blade Bring to you is sepf sustain Attacker that refuse to die. While Dan Heng IL is You cant get dmg if you Nuke it First.
Yeah Blade burst is not that good, but his consistent damage and ability to continue doing that damage is why he'll always be good. You can always plug him on any team and he'll dish damage. Jing Yuan however, idk man they gotta do something for him or erudition as a whole xd
@zmm1337 I have gepard e1 and loucha. So I kinda don't need fu xuan I just think her animations look good. So getting Danny was probably a better option for me
Your Blade and Bronya are not speed tuned. Blade should be 135 speed and Bronya 134 speed, allowing Blade to make 4 actions in the first cycle. The difference is huge as your current build with Bronya having higher speed only allows blade 2 actions in the first cycle, essentially halving his damage. Thanks for the video nonetheless.
Hey, thanks for commenting. I made a specific mention that I will be putting blade on HP boots and IL on attack boots at 0:44 for the comparison. As the same can be said for IL, if we give him speed boots he will be able to make 4 actions as well. (Where he only needs 2 of those actions to 20 cycle) It would actually be advantage for IL as well since he only requires 1 substat to get 135 spd, while Blade request 6 substats since his speed is a lot slower and his 4pc doesn't give speed. The point of the damage comparison is to show the difference in damage so players have a point of reference to how much DPS Lunae can do compared to his competition.
Also, 3:10 Blade had an extra turn over IL w/ Bronya. I didn't even use Bronya's skill to bring IL up (Basically he didn't even need Bronya to 0 cycle). IL just one shotted the boss in 1 turn. If the boss had 2x more HP, IL would still 0 cycle the boss while blade 4 turn w/ Bronya wouldn't matter
@@zmm1337 No doubt IL damage will be higher and will clear faster, but the point of blade is that he is SP neutral and allows Bronya to skill every turn, and he is the only DPS that allows Bronya to skill every turn because of this. The difference would be smaller for sure. IL's best boots is attack as he is -3 sp per turn and is unsustainable with speed boots, while blade's best boots is speed for the above mentioned reasons. Your comparison is still valid but I just think it would be better to use the most optimal rotation for both Blade and IL for a better gauge of both characters.
It's annoying how running JY with anyone else but tingyun feels terrible. He's a character that already has so manyrestrictions. limited damage on demand, and lightning lord is ironically worse when there are more than 1 unit.. He's like a character that is trying to be Destruction, Hunt, and Erudition all at the same time... Instead they should've made him into a real erudition character where his damage on each target increases as there are more enemies, maybe like increase the number of strikes lightning lord does per enemey (i.e. herta & himeko. For example herta passive triggers the more enemies there are).
@@zmm1337 they chokehold on him and after his banner thundercunted him to the fuckin ground. Hes the most enjoyable unit tho.Also why his ultimate needs 20 more energy to deal same dmg as a herta ultimate.
Daniel is a no brainer, oneshoting everything isnt very fun, once u killed everything in the forgotten hall and the simp universe with Imposter Lunie what else do you have to do? I rather pull for Fu Xuan, she will be very good for every Team, Dani Hang Super Sayan is just too busted and does not do anything else for the party xD
I agree, but I also disagree. The valuable thing about supports is that they have the most usage. DPS are very specific to certain enemy weakness, etc. HOWEVER, The fact that Daniel does so much damage, he basically has a silverwolf built into him. So he can be plugged on any team as well to clear any content. I will showcase this on my next video
You can't go wrong with the best DPS in the game that is both good in single target and multi target lol... more people are pulling cause they're realizing that he does so much damage that he's basically silverwolf + seele
I kinda hope the power creep stops else the game will loose people and if they make it harder , the game will loose people even more. Power creep is bad for most games.
I agree, but thankfully since this is not a pvp game, it's not as bad. It's definitely hard to balance the game between casuals and non casuals. Especially gacha games
@@zmm1337 Genshin is quite balanced. I was hoping they could achieve that. If not, Genshin will again rise the top being Hoyoverse’s best game. They will need to now make a cracked Jing Liu. If she is stronger than Dan Heng , when will it stop
@@djay00009 I think Genshin is still Hoyoverse top game rn based on numbrs. Maybe not sales, but they are definitely getting more younger audience according to google trends. And yeah, if whoever pulled jing yuan for meta is not gona like this guy
@@Dian-p7j kafka, seele, bronya, ting, pela, fu xuan, silver wolf, topaz, jinglui is not enough for you? Ah of course waifu simps hate when we get op male character
Honestly while he does give a lot of big funny numbers, it is worth mentioning 2 issues he has Let's start with the obvious, this guy eats your SP bar for breakfast, and every hour of the day is breakfast hour for him And two, him being destruction ironically plays against him, cause he is basically a glass cannon, he has fairly low HP and def for a character on a path that has the third highest aggro rate in the game (after preservation and foxian beauties)
why do I have a feeling like he's getting overrated ? Sure he's strong but the amount of "oh my god this character is so broken" idt is deserved. All the characters showcased were 1 turn away from him which let's be real is nothing to get so excited about.
Hey, thanks for commenting, but for MoX 6, the enemies are weak to Lightning but Jing Yuan is 1 cycle behind him vs. Lightning weakness enemy. The enemy has no imaginary weakness and IL was ahead of Jing Yuan by a while cycle. I think that's a big disparity, don't you think?
@@zmm1337Well , in my opinion not really . Also if the weakness mattered so much why not test IL against something with imaginary weakness it would be 20% better I think so instead of 214 it would be 245-250 per enhanced basic if I'm not wrong. And in moc 10 I doubt that will be such an astronomical difference compared to everyone else. It would be better don't get me wrong but not to the degree I've seen everyone praising him.
It's just that people have short memory and little to no knowledge about the game. I can't deny that he is strong, probably the strongest DPS in terms of raw numbers. Nevertheless, he has his caveats like being married to SP positive supports and general reliance on the team, which in turn makes him very inflexible. But when people see those 100-200k dmg - "omg, he is bwoken" and they just disregard his issues like it's nothing. Also, invalidating previous DPSes to make it seem like the new one is 2-nd coming of Christ is a common trick, as it always has been unfortunately.
@@shidzenrekunsums it up quite well. Most players dunno a thing about game's mechanics but show them big numbers and they'll be sold immediately. Just imagine if Dan Heng had mediocre numbers, I'm 99% sure nobody would pull for him. Big numbers are the easiest thing to sell to a genshin-like community. A straight damage DPS is great but blade like dps's are much more flexible, consider the amount of flexibility you have on team members, and the amount of stuff you can try with such characters. They have mechanics that can pair with various other characters, classes, or supports. Straight bursters are always just, well, bursters. They are great to burst down (any) content but when it comes to having fun with comps they are the least satisfying to play with. Some players defend this by saying "oh but I love erasing enemies and 1 shotting them", not really. You love it now, you'll get bored sooner or later.
Mei was pretty shitty before HoT release, she didn't have a single useful battlesuit. The only strong Bronya's battlesuits were HB, HoTr and HoR after new PRI-arm released. Bronya also has 2 worst battlesuits in the game: DB and BN. Only strong Kiana battlesuits were her herrscher ones. And HoF didn't even last in meta for a year. Was immediately powercrept. So you are just wrong.
@@0kaiKai I meant their Herrscher forms too. Just didn't want to type so much explaining everything. Basically what I meant was Hoyo doesn't mess up with their main trio and they always turn up quite solid and strong on release. Doesn't matter who powercreeps them in a YEAR.
@@nepgee6406 yeah it's a bit much unless you're a content creator. But to be fair this game is an auto battle game that you can close your eyes to play. People that play genshin with multiple accounts are actualy zzz brains
@@Influocial i have the mihoyo big 3, then a horse girl racing, leaving those cute school girls, no longer a furry doctor, then do some thumbs training with some music. As for PC i only have Valorant and Dead by Daylight probably gonna play some games that i never touched yet after buying, and apex on PS4 There's just too much to play
Tingyun is really his best support for him I really like how she can give him a lot of uptime on his burst and she need way less sp than bronya so you can use bronya on the other tea
Yeah I agree with your points. he's unironically very flexible. Can work with a tonnnn of different supports and doesn't only just need tingyun like JY.
The difference between IL and blade is that Blade can be slapped on as a subDPS on any team, while IL needs the whole team built for him. Blade at max DPS is skill point positive, while Dan Heng is very negative. Of course it's cheaper to raise 1 hypercarry than it is to run dual carry teams.
Yeah I should've prefaced that in the blade section. This was a DPS comparison test, but people will forget that Blade is a plug and go dps that fits on any team. He's still so good for any content and is one of the best Sub-DPS. Once jingliu comes out he'll shine even more
Yes overall blade is better but in damage wise is IL and Seele
lol since when did blade became skill point positive , he is skill negative he eats 1 sp every 4 turn and doesnt give anything back..
@@bigzhong466 Sir, in what team are you running that requires 26 SP every rotation?
@@codyivvel1728 u cant even use 26sp in one rot or get 26 in 1 rotation but i get u , u meant danheng e2+ eats 26 sp like every 8-10 rotation ...where r u going to use them skills tho otherwise? gonna hoard them? i run blade with pela sw sometimes and so many times ive been capped on skill points that i end up using it on my healer so they regen energy faster , sw and pela already have shit ton of ult regen they dont even need anything , plus freq e skill from sw ruins weakness typing all for 2k dmg , even if u run bronya with him he will have shit ton of sp to spare...i like danheng more cuz the stacked sp is actually being used with better advantage
btw my main comment was abt how blade isnt skill positive character , idk how i am being asked abt 26 skill points consumption
The fact that these rotations were so suboptimal but IL still managed to ctrl-z every enemy in the game says a lot
Yeah he is very disgustingly OP in terms of damage. I ran natasha with -1 sp each rotation and he's still able to delete content fast before he can even brick. Of course, once content scales and enemies have more HP, it'll be harder for DHIL since he will evetually brick. So someone like blade over 15+ cycles will deal as much if not more damage than DHIL. But there's no endgame content like that currently that rewards consistency over burst
his damage output is just unmatched... not sure how they will balance future characters
I think with alll this powercreep and the fact it’s a Honkai game. We’ll see a increase in content difficulty in the near future. I honestly don’t care if IL gets powercreeped sometime. (So far none of the new dps look to come anywhere close) but he’s just so damn cool to play and his attacks are so glorious.
@@uziesotherik4931Herta can 0-cycle MoC
Supports will only make him even more optimal, all he need that mythical harmony that gives skill point with increase energy regen rate by 10-15% buff.
I've been maining the pre puberty dan heng and was saving for the glow up dan heng. I managed to pull him with Geopard but shielder bro came first and I lost hope. With the power of copium relics that I just took most of it from Welt for some reason he obliterates enemies. The only downside is that he is very very skill point hungry but if the enemies are dead I don't really care.
Yeah like you said, if enemies dead it's good! And right now, for most content, he does so much damage that he will clear it before he runs out of gas and bricks
For those of you asking why I used Natasha w/ IL in MoX 6 and Luocha for Jing Yuan... I had to make it harder for IL by putting an SP negative healer. If I gave IL Luocha, he wouldve prob finish mox 6 1st half in 18 cycles even though the elite boss is NOT weak to imaginary (weak to lightning, ice, phys)
EDIT: Disclaimer Both BLADE and JY are really good characters still and they're able to clear all content (this is just a showcase to show the damage output IL is able to do compare to his lore accurate friends)
Did Blade get powercrept? NOPE. Blade's role will be very good in the the future, since he's also a sub-dps that has good auto play, can fit on any team, and deal good damage w/ little SP investment. Overall blade is just a comfier and more reliable character to have in my opinion for auto battle. Lunae's auto battle is not too good.
ALSO for those that wondered about an optimal Blade/Bronya rotation. I didn't have enough resources on my 1st early access account to get relics for his 135 spd, but I got the speed req now & I went back to the testing servers. Guess what? Blade took 3 out of 4 turns to clear the boss (same amount of turns as this video... 3). Guess how many turns Lunae took? 1 out of 4 turn to clear the boss (same amount of turns as this video... 1)
In the video I talked about cycles relative to the number of turns they had (both had 2) since both characters weren't in their "optimal" build. But now that we're talking about a more precise and optimal comparison between the 2 characters, then we need a more precise scale to compare them by, so I used turns. because obviously even Herta can 0 cycle MoX 5, the enemy HP is not enough to sustain optimal builds.
Blade is a DPS that has consistent damge, good SP usage, and can also be a sub-dps that can be plugged anywhere to perform. But if you check every theory crafter's findings and their comparisons, you will find out that DHIL damage output is far above any other DPS over a 5 cycle fight. Did DHIL powercrept blade? No they have different roles. But is DHIL damage better than Blade? Yes.
Cab u help by naming the artifact set to put on blade and light cone(4star) too
P.S. he does decent damage but I m still unhappy
@@parv_shah longevous disciple and inert salsotto/rutilant arena. LC is Secret Vow
@@parv_shah 4pc longevous disciple, try to aim for 60-70% crit and 150% cdmg. for 4 star lightcone use arlan's signature "a secret vow"
@@zmm1337 i don't have arlan's light cone
@@parv_shah "Under the blue sky", "fall of the aeon" (herta store) will all work too. What matters are his relics stats good
the strong part about blade with bronya is that blade can have 2 turns back to back every turn, no other dps can do that do to the higth SP usage, but your bronya was going first than blade that makes his value with bronya go down A LOT, blade can easily 0 cicle if bronya go just after him
Yeah I mentioned this in the pinned comment and tested it out on my main (still decently behind lunae in damage output ofc), but since this was test servers w/ limited resources, I couldn't farm to speed tune and still run his 4pc. Many people will have this problem as well, Blade has an extremely low base speed of 98. He will need speed boots + 12 extra speed to hit 135 (that's 5-6 substats for speed). Unless you're lucky or farming non-stop, it will be very hard to hit that thresh hold and still have similar crit ratios w/ Lunae. Same could be said for Lunae. If I ran him speed boots instead of attack (135 lunae, 134 bronya) he will delete any content within 2/4 turns where blade needs 4.
As you saw at 3:45, lunae didn't even need bronya skill and he already one shot the floor in 1 turn. And people will say if you give Lunae 135 speed and
bronya 134, he won't have enough skill points... He will, GrimroGacha made a video on this comp already and I've already tested this with using a different strategy. But you can sustain this fine w/ 2 SP+ supports and 1 semi positive support. Yes he will need to do a normal attack 1 out of the 4 turns, but he still gets 3 turn in the first cycle to deal max output. But yes, I mentioned this as well, Blade's roll is different, he's a great SUB-DPS as well that has insane damage w/ little sp usage. So he's more than still OP.
good point, my blade dosen't have 134 speed, is very hard to get in dps characters since u need to focus on crit@@zmm1337
I went back to the testing servers. Used all my resources. Guess what? Blade took 3 out of 4 turns to clear the boss (same amount of turns as this video... 3). Guess how many turns Lunae took? 1 out of 4 turn to clear the boss (same amount of turns as this video... 1)
In the video I talked about cycles relative to the number of turns they had (both had 2) since both characters weren't in their "optimal" build. But now that we're talking about a more precise and optimal comparison between the 2 characters, then we need a more precise scale to compare them by, so I used turns. because obviously even Herta can 0 cycle MoX 5, the enemy HP is not enough to sustain optimal builds.
Blade is a DPS that has consistent damge, good SP usage, and can also be a sub-dps that can be plugged anywhere to perform. But if you check every theory crafter's findings and their comparisons, you will find out that DHIL damage output is far above any other DPS over a 5 cycle fight. Did DHIL powercrept blade? No they have different roles. But is DHIL damage better than Blade? Yes.
@@recker4267 Yeah, overall building Blade is EXTREMELY hard even I can't do it because it relies on good relics. since he requires such an insane amount of substats for speed and getting that w/ correct 4pc is like super hard (would prob take months if unlucky). But overall blade's damage is good over time, he will out damage Lunae once Lunae Bricks his rotation. But Lunae's burst is far stronger.
Love the showcase & Great guide 😊 just won imbi and im so excited to build my husbando!
Thank you! I hope you enjoy your new husbando!
To make a correct comparison, I think it would be better to compare IL and blade with their respective best team, for IL pela, tingyun, healer and blade pela(no yukong) bronya and healer(lynx when she can be used)
Yes, but if I use Pela, IL will still 0 Cycle. But Blade will still be 19 cycles. Pela is less damage than Yukong
@@zmm1337Another point to mention for future comparation or something, the best possible combo with blade is to make blade with 135-6 speed and bronya 134 , this is his best possible combo ,he attack 4 times per Cycle (blade- bronya E -Blade -Bronya E)
Thats because i said pela Instead of yukong, pela dont need sp
Awesome showcase. And the editing is top notch ! ❤
Thank you
call an ambulance... but not for me. its for Jing Yuan lmao
LMFAO wathc out bro r/jingyuanmains coming for you
He powercrept every dps I don’t think it’s just jing yuan here
@@ragdull2066Literally everyone.
I personally feel that one as Jing Yuan haver 😂
Thank god i got his e1 so he at least close to my other dps damage
He deserves to be really strong, considering how Dan Heng is one of the two partners of Stelle and just in general really important
He's truly one of the Dan Hengs of all time
@@zmm1337 indubitably.
Hey ! As someone who mains Blade, Jingyuan and DanhengIL, I am against comparing them to each other.
I'm like that one parent that says they love all their children equally but I actually mean it in my case xD
Tho to be fair, using Yukong with Blade isn't doing as much for him as Imbibitor, Blade's attack scaling is miniscule. I would've swapped Yukong for Pela there
Hey thank you for your respectful take & opinion (very rare to see that nowadays)! I do agree that they are all very good DPS that can clear the content we currently have. However, I want to showcase the damage to help viewers have a point of reference to how IL's damage is in comparison to his competition. I definitely should've preface though that Blade is a great plug and go unit that works on almost any team as a sub-dps, as I mentioned that his burst damage isn't too good, but that's because he's not a hypercarry, but instead a sub-dps (when jing liu comes he will get big value).
Oh yeah the reason why I wanted to use Yukong was to try and get blade to 0 cycle MoX-5. with Pela, Blade will even be 2 cycles behind IL & IL would still 0 cycle it effortlessly (this guy legit is a nuke). However, I definitely should've added a team w/ Blade as sub-dps to IL because he works wonderfully w/ him. This was the team I used: IL, Blade, SP+ sustain, Yukong. This team is actually cracked and I might make a showcase of this
@@zmm1337 Ok. And honestly this was a pretty good showcase, you did a great job !
@@wafaay7182 🙏
Honestly i am the same with your take but Jingyuan is clearly get so much Power Creep in this point even Himeko can compare with him with Break comp bcs Fire have double break dmg. His only problem thats her only source of Dmg is LL but his ultimate cost high in 130 then Hoyoverse didnt even try to fix his multiplier and put so much restriction into his gameplay. Its just so unfair honestly for JY, when every other limited can do much and without so many restrictions into their kit. Even Topaz probably gonna powercreep him because she not release can be change and her follow up attack is consistent with good speed and have advance foward option. Even LL cant take Enemy position in spd base. He just need a buff in his spd and restriction then its not gonna even powercreep anyone
He may break the game but make a man pretty enough and he can shatter my experience for all I care!
Lovely guide btw :)
I appreciate the kind words! He's freaking amazing. I wasn't planning to pull him on my main, but uhh yeah rip jades fund for Jing Liu
I was saving for Jing Liu too but I needed Asta cons and decided why not just hit pity and proceeded to win 50/50 (also did get my Asta to E4)
Yo pass over the luck! Haha but srsly, gratz! I'm also searching for E4 asta... on my main acc I hope I don't brick
Yukong does nothing for blade, just put another dps/sub dps character.
Or another healer. You want him to be full or at least high hp every time you ult so that his counter passive deals more damage.
Also I think using Loucha as healer for both blade and lunae team is fair cause of the blade hp ult thing.
Still, I'm glade bladie did good even in this situation.
Oh he did better than good, I sorta cucked him, forgot to raise his at 4/6. I just wanted to show his damage vs. IL. Their roles are very different. Blade is a sub-dps that doesn't insane damage. IL is a hyper carry nuke. Blade is a plug and go machine on any team and his consistent damage is good as well as his auto play. Jing Yuan is still solid but IL just does JY's role but better.
My dude got a trailer, an AMV, 2 animated shorts and people still haven’t realized that he’s Hoyo’s favourite child
Bro the animated short was so good. Had to edit my video last minute right before release to incorporate some b-rolls of it. They really are trying to send this guy's numbers to the moon
it would be fair for JY if you replace Pela to Yukong or Bronya for increase DMG since you're using SPD boots so you don't need asta because you use Pela for Daniel for SP sufficient
Yeah that's a fair point, but the damage provided by yukong won't be so great to make a difference and yukong isn't e6 so tuning her w/ lightning lord is kinda of yeah... I hate how lightning lord works and how many freaking restrictions they put on jing yuan lol
actually scratch the Yukong e6 part, just watched a Jing yuan clear with Yukong it's fine don't need E6. So yeah, the damage will most likely be extremely helpful. Will test again once I have the chance. But even if it's possible Jing yuan will still be 1 cycle or same cycle as IL who is against an elite enemy that is only weak to lightning
@@zmm1337 and Daniel would be so OP if we have Hanabi from leaks her kit is so good for Daniel if you know her kit
Im a rabid bladie main. And i got Danni boi and his LC today. I love them BOTH ❤❤
Congratz! He's definitely gona smash any and all content in the game even if they're not weak to imaginary lol
All i can say is, they did my boi cyyu dirty with cyno and jy
i should probably switch my set on dan heng from the imaginary imprison that boosts crit to the set this guy has cause my dan heng deals like 2 times less , deals a bit above with ruan mei tho
No point of rolling for any characters anymore if you saved up for him. Dan Heng IL stomps all content not to mention EZ 1 million damage E2S1+. Outlasses every other DPS by a mile Hoyo must be on drugs
They actually sold us a nuke lmao
U need 2 teams in forgotten hall u need to calm down on the joystick riding😂😂😂
@jjillalalac2487 Loool this. You need at least 2 DPS's like calm down. Sure hes officially the strongest but the others are still great to have.
@@jjillalalac2487i'm quite pissed because i have all the other dps in game and now they are all sitting in bench cuz blade and il dan heng alone can clear everything, hoyo has favorit path and it's destruction (i jeard jingliu is also gonna be broken)
1 million mf are you on drugs????? Only possible in simulated universe 500k is achievable but not 1 million mf hate these kind of mfs who say anything they want
great guide man!! ❤
Ty! 🙏🙏
uhh the most optimal is also Yukong beside tingyun, because the talent 12% imaginary boost just from yukong being there is clean not to mention massive atk boost and Crit boost.
His damage is so ridiculous that I cleared current MoC10 stage 1 (yes 1, the two HP petrifying ladies without Img weakness) with E0S1 DHIL with YK/TY/LC in 3 cycles...
Sounds about right LOL. He doesn't even need silver wolf. The guy is silver wolf and seele combined LMAO. At E2, he's Bronya too WTF.
Ok time to speed run main quest for wishes becouse this made me want him more than I wanted IT before
LOL glgl
bro you are making me VERY excited about getting IL i aint gonna lie LMAO
He's giga awesome
WELCOME TO POWERCREEP BOIS if the game keeps scaling up the next next next 5 dps star prepare it to be a ''must pull next character'' type of gacha
Next I'm expecting March7 to get a OP power that changes reality.
something like Orihime from Bleach
Enemy : ok your friend is mortally wounded hes going to die now.
March7: But that's not inside my memories... (boom friend fully healed)
Enemy: arGH fine! I attack you instead!
March7: NuhAh no you didn't.
reality warps, boom atk disappears
They'll probably make her a healer x skill point recover x shield giver. She'll probably be the best support unit in the game if they want to go that far with her.
LOL She's gona be broken. Waifu + OP = big $$$
Me regretting using up all my herta tickets just to get 20 standard warp tickets 😭
😢
dumbass lmfao
You got work on that blade build should be close to 8k hp, 70% crit and atleast 160% c.dmg preferably 180 or more.
Yeah his stats are a bit low, since I was testing on early access servers. It could be better. I don't think I gave blade a fair showcase. But the results are still by far favored to IL his damage is just dumb broken.
@@zmm1337 Also didn't help that he was at trace 4/6 for his BA. Still wouldn't have made the difference, but hey...
@@nosneponsnek Yeah for some reason my brain slipped over that. didn't see lol. Blade's damage is yeah less than IL, but his role is way different too. He's a sub-dps that does dps comparable to a hypercarry. Once more supports and characters like Jingliu comes out, blade will get stonks!
My king is coming home and i will be feeding him every jade I have. Bless me please everyone
Great choice! He's a wonderful unit
youre not gonna lose dont doubt
Players who love one big screenshot damage gonna love this guy.. sales going stronk
I love DPS... My sushang is the sol existence for big damage per screenshot
Sorry to ask that but could you do a video about do or die teams for daniel? My question comes from the fact that i got some supports like bronya,pela,e6 asta,e2 yukong, but not tyiung or loucha to make he ult early or save skills points. My ideia is to do a kill fast team like farm skill with bronya make them go again with asta etc, but still dont have everyone built and you are pretty smart do you at least belive that could work out?
Yeah I can add that to a later video. I think GrimroGacha made a video on this DHIL build if you haven't seen it yet. Basically DHIL at 135 spd, Bronya 134 spd, DHIL will get 4 attacks, but only 3 of it will be full combo while the other atks will be for regenerating skill point. This seems like an amazing combo for Dan Heng especially if you run your other characters w/ the 4pc passerby to get free skill points.
Danheng is the reason why i play this game. Managed to win 50/50 for him and his lightcone. Him being so broken is only a bonus for me, thanks for the guide 👍
Yo gratz! Good luck on the relic hunt!! I'm happy that he's easy to build since his best set (wild wheat) has so many sources
Already prefarmed the relics but i won't be able to use rutilant arena full effect since i don't have 70 crit rate.
btw kinda surprised his lunae took 3 cycles for mox f6 first side(nat run) , i ran my e1s1 clara(very shit stats trust me) tho i agree its physical weak , i went with bailu tingyun and pela and cleared it it with 18 cycles remaining
before anyone asks , no i am not coping i have(for dps) e0s1 seele , clara e1s1 , blade e0s5arlan cone , and danheng e0s0 rn with clara cone but will switch over to dan heng cone if i win 75-25 in my next 7 pulls , outside that my clara currently stands at 75 crit rate 65 crit dmg 3.4k atk without physical dmg globe , 4pc physical set , 2 pc arena , and 110 spd(spd boots)
talents r basic lvl 1 , counter talent lvl 7, ult lvl 7 ,e skill lvl 5 , top side physical node is not unlocked
Clara player, respect! But you have to remember, the boss is weak to (Physical, ice, lightning) NOT imaginary. So that fact that he's able to do this is quite insane!
@@zmm1337 i know its physical weakness but my clara stats tho..its hard to build her since neither her sig cone nor any talent /nodes gives any crit to make her build better..65 crt dmg is literally nothing
.and i havent grinded out physical set..just couple runs got her mainstats and then f-ed off from there
I have never been so happy to lose a 50/50 before. He's guaranteed. Now if only the events came sooner...
Sept 6, new engame content in sim uni :)
Ah I see@@zmm1337
He is a high elder, I dare say, he almost same level as a archon. So he better be God dominating power creep.
Tf u on, archon were next to nothing before honkai universe
wtf? DH IL 😮 the powercreep is real but... I´m waifu enjoyer until the end xD my jades are safe for 1.4 good video as always and... Finally, I level up my March 7th at 70/80 for more EHR and finally 30 stars because I freeze Kafka in Moc 10... I saw that strat in another video of you you´re the GOAT
Great guide. Hope I could get him but I am staying strong for Jingliu and Seele (as they say). Hope Seele would not yet come.
Thank you OG! Like I mentioned in the video I too am hoping to save my jades for Jing Liu and Topaz. This was done during the content creator beta servers, but wish I had all the characters on my main account 😂
@@zmm1337 " This was done during the content creator beta servers" wait what so this video was not on live server?
Hey bro, i lost my 50/50 to Bronya. Now i dont hsve anything left. Have I lost the chance to get the greatest dps? Will there be someone nearly as powerful as him or maybe even better? Blade does only 50k dmg (without Shuhu's Gift). I wanted Daniel bcoz he does more than 80k sometimes😢. Pls respond.
Hey! Sorry to hear. But don't worry, he's not a must pull. Blade is amazing and still the best Auto dps. DHIL is really bad at auto play. With Blade + Bronya, you have one of the best team in the game. I would definitely save for future chars like Jing Liu / Topaz /Fuxuan
Also my mindset is to typically avoid pulling for meta or characters that deal a lot of damage, because there will always be someone that will do more damage. I like my investment into characters I really like (waifus like jingliu) or characters w/ high usability like Fuxuan, Bronya, and other preservation, healer, harmoney characters (BECAUSE regardless of their element, they can be put on any team!)
@@zmm1337 thanks bro so much God bless you. Also can u make some guide on yanqing for full damage like insane op damage?
Does the extra crit rate you get from relics count in activating 20% basic attack damage increase
Nope. The 8% from rutilant does, but the conditional 20% crit rate from wastelander doesn't. u need 70% on screen. the conditional crit rates doesnt count.
@@BunnsAndGlory ^^^ need to be able to see the stat hit 70% before combat
I CANT KEEP UP WITH ALL THESE NEW UNITS GIVE US A BREAK MIHOYO
LOL they need to give us more pulls!@!
Dan Heng IL,Tingyun,Bronya and Welt is a good team?
Yeah, welt will have to use normal attacks, but IL should be able to kill fast enough before your team dies xD
UR GONNA MAKE ME CRY, I WANT HIMMMMMMMMMMMM
If you're pulling for him good luck! But don't be pressured to pull b/c of his big pp damage! Pull for who you like as you will get the most value from that 👍
I love him :) i am happy - i got blade too
I like using both of them on the same team :D Blade is still too good of an auto battler
I hit 236K I have no imaginary orb so I used atk orb. Its still crazy. Imagine if I actually manage to get his orb
That's a lot of damage... lol wth
I think I'm gonna skip the pull because he need too many supports and skill points to make it work. Sadly he's only main imaginary dps in the game. I hope I'm not miss Jingliu and Topas in Patch 1.4
Yeah he's a support hungry DPS, definitely don't need his damage as it is overkill, but his damage is just like beyond any other rn. Like being able to delete content that isn't even weak to imaginary is just broken
I think that with pela and tingyun he'll work just fine
@@zmm1337keyword is right now. That will change when they change the content and try to sell new characters. They already have enemies that sap SP.
Supports allow you to use weaker characters you may actually like and make them just as, if not more viable.
The simple fact is if you don’t like how he plays, or don’t really like the character, don’t pull him. If you do like him, he can carry a team.
Herta can 0-cycle the MoC. Don’t pull for DPS ability.
I mean if u have luocha ita not really a problem, him being need 2 support is just like any other dps and its not a must rather its the meta to play 1 deffensive 2 support and 1 dps, and actually the need of supprt here rather for the buff is actually so the team is sp efficient thats why i think bronya is good for damage but not so good for a long run.
@@FilmFlam-8008 you saying herta can 0 cycle MoC just says alot your not playing MoC
Yes any character can 0 CYCLE but that takes alot of TRIES AND GOD RELICS WITH E6 GREAT SUPPORTS
But if you're the average player you just cant do those. Pulling for Daniel is a wise choice cause he's a beast of a dps and will be in meta for so long
Also sp generator support is already leaked that means they will be released and will just boost daniel in the future
Any Opinions on running Yukong with Planetary Rendezvous?
Very good option, do you have yukong at E6? If not, only use normal attacks until you have ultimately up, then use skill
@@zmm1337 i actually specifically rolled for E6 yukong
@@RealKuro Oh niceee! But yeah, Planetary Rendezvous is the best w/ Imbibitor. But other lightcones are good too like the BP one since IL already has a ton of %dmg modifiers
Fu Xuan and Jing Liu savers stay strong!!!
I caved 😭😭😭
How about using, 2 pieces of musketeer and 2 pieces of wastelander? Is it less effective.
As long as the substats are good. If you're aiming for 134 spd, you will need more spd substat rolls. However if you're running attack boots, then 2+2pc is better
i got dan heng yesterday with 60 pulls and my asta is e6 and yukong e2 i will get his light cone next time it fine the one on herta shop will do i just hope i get lucky on the relic hunt which i am not at times lol.
7:22 so what you are saying that Jing Yuan clears just one cycle slower? A win is a win!!! 😭😭
😭😭😭 Our General will get the job done, but we all know who Hoyoverse favorite boy child is now
Like they gave him 4 difference trailers, AMV, anime short, etc. on their main channel... the favoritism is also unfair!
is IL, Tingyun, Luocha, E6 yukon a good team?
You have Luocha, the most OP support for him IMO so anyone will work well! Lucky guy! But yes that team is perfect. Just make sure to normal attack w/ yukong until ultimate is up if you're behind on skill points
@@zmm1337 thank you!!!
3:51 does anyone know the name of the song on background
Samudrartha - HSR ost!
Basically The next character coming will be even more broken than BL in the future
Like Jingliu and Topaz
Oh my if they are that's gona be interesting how they will balance older characters LOL
Dan Heimer • Project Lunae
😂👍
Do you think it’s worth rolling for Danils lightcone?
Definitely not needed! The herta one is very good at S5! if you're not into spending, I would recommend to save for a future character that you like since these chars are coming soon: fuxuan, jingliu, topaz
1:33 why they are exploding after they resurrect?
MoX 5 stage mechanics, when enemy dies, they explode and deal damage
The question is, can he solo MOC 10 like Blade does?
Good question, prob not 😂
Can I replaxe Luocha with Fuxuan? I missed Luocha on 50/50 with Clara omg 😭
Ya Fuxuan will be godly for sure
@@zmm1337 thanks a lot! 20 tickets and more than 9k jades so far. Hope I can beat that 50/50 😭
@@thanhvanle3024 I pray for your swift victory 👍👍👍
Do you think it's still worth it if I don't have luocha?
Whats your teams looking like right now? Do you need a DPS? If you're looking to clear content and lacking DPS, yeah he's busted, I mainly showcased him in this video with natasha so people have realistic POV. Best Natasha team for him is: IL, Natasha, Pela(asta, yukong good too just don't use skill often), Tingyun
@@zmm1337 Thanks for your insights! I currently have seele, clara (half built), silverwolf, bailou, and welt for my 5 stars. I notably have an E6 pela which I think may be perfect for jingliu. However, I do not know if I should wait that long to get Jingliu for my 2nd team (currently the half-built clara-sw mono physical) and if she will be as f2p-friendly as DanIeL.
Currently I can use the comp daniel-pela-natasha-tingyun if I pull now. However, do you think it would be better if I pull for Jingliu instead (to utilize e6 pela ice shred)?
@@janwilfredcarpizo6515 Oh yeah wait for Jing Liu if you like her. I would recommend to never pull for meta. It's not worth it, like jing yuan situation. All content in the game can be cleared with good invesments in your characters! Clara is perfectly good for your 2nd team, she's good even against content that isn't weak to physical. Wind Daniel is good too! I cleared Moc 10 with only the free 9 characters, and I would say Wind Dan Heng is one of the best DPS still in the game. TLDR: wait for Jing Liu, it'll be worth it
How can I kill the mommy boss thingy with him it’s too hard ;(
What teams are you currently running? If you don't have Luocha, it's best to use SP positive supports like Pela, Tingyun, Nastsha, IL. Your team is very squishy vs the mommy boss especially if you only have Nastasha. The other strat is to replace pela w/ march 7th or another tank to help w/ survival. IL will have enough damage and will only need 1 support to help him out
I wanted to say that your Blade sucks, then i realised that mine also suck even deeper. You convinced me to get e2 inbabytor
LOL this was funny to read
technically it was the beta test server blade xD
the fact that they already start powercreeping this early makes me worry about the future of this game.
I'm sure they have a way to balance mechanics. I.e. release a new support that is super good w/ follow up attacks. Release new enemies that take away skill points (they already did this is phantylia)
Now sparkle is coming to make dang heng il powercreept 💀
Seriously my game become so much easier since he's on my team. I guess I'm gonna save some jade's to E1 til 6 if possible on his rerun
His E2 is best, and makes his kit complete, but don't break the wallet for that, he's already godly at E0. Only issue is his auto play is clunky sometimes
@@zmm1337 oh I see.... Thanks for the advices 👍 I never play it on auto tho hehe
I'm running him with SW so which relics to get?
What other supports are you running with him with as well? (i.e. bronya, tingyun, pela, yukong,etc.) But if you want a relic set that is his best in any situation, it would be 4pc wild wheat
@@zmm1337 Tingyun however i don't have Loucha nor Bronya (Yukong gets good at E6 and i don't have her at that) so i dunno which char to put next...i'm hoping to get Fu Xuan but as of now i'm using Bailu, even if she's also skill hungry
@@etam8099 Yeah Bailu, IL, Tingyun, and SW will work perfectly fine (you can replace SW for pela in situations where you need to remove enemy buffs). This team will work perfectly fine! wild wheat is a good set. Good luck on your Fuxuan pulls, may she come fast and early!!!
@@zmm1337 Isn't Wastelander better cuz of SW's Imaginary weakness implant?
@@etam8099 SW as in silver wolf correct? She's quantum, so the boost will not work I believe
wait that's kinda broken lol.. how is this balanced hoyoverse. I don't want him
Yup. I don't know how he got out of the shop either. Being able to delete content that isn't even weak to him is just not fair lol
I hope he will be more op
@@restart6358 at E2 he becomes better than like a lot of the E6 characters lmao the guy is too busted
@@zmm1337 I'm so happy he is strong, I dunno why people whining, like seele also can do almost 200k damage, and Danny did 100+k to 3 enemies
i hope they nerf him to be balanced so other character can compete@@restart6358
mid yuan being erudition but isn't even erudition. The recent destruction characters claps him so hard
^^^The only character I pulled LC for and lost both 50/50s on lc and him. And they doing my boy this dirty...
Can you test team err link rope daniel, pela, nat, and yukong lol am f2p my daniel not built properly
ERR rope is only recommended if you run w/ bronya and use attack boots. Otherwise it's better to run atk rop and atk boots!
@@zmm1337ok thanks for the advice
Poor jing yuan, Jing Yuan is suppossed to be danheng IL level of power when ppl hyping him up lmao
I agree and it's annoying how running JY with anyone else but tingyun feels terrible. He's a character that already has so manyrestrictions. limited damage on demand, and lightning lord is ironically worse when there are more than 1 unit.. He's like a character that is trying to be Destruction, Hunt, and Erudition all at the same time... Instead they should've made him into a real erudition character where his damage on each target increases as there are more enemies, maybe like increase the number of strikes lightning lord does per enemey (i.e. herta & himeko. For example herta passive triggers the more enemies there are).
Blade just needs better support units for his scaling. Yukong doesn't help him as much as she does for IL, in fact the best for him in terms of raw damage output. Once Lynx is out, Blade should fair better with aggro and HP scaling %.
I don't think any dps unit coming out will do less damage than JY lol. The fight with the fishes is terrible for him because LL will usually overkill the never-ending adds, otherwise he would clear it much faster doing 'blast' damage instead of RNG hits. Blast as a mechanic is just significantly better for the hardest content in the game since targeted damage on the boss is ideal.
That said, IL clearing a few cycles faster doesn't have much value if content can already be cleared consistently with other dps units you already have. Also, his auto gameplay is probably terribly optimized, so IL is a great pull if you like him as a character and/or need help clearing content.
Yeah blade's support options are very poor right now. And yeah you make great points. I mentioned it as well in my worth it section that if you have enough dps, and you don't his gameplay, there's no reason to pull for him. I LOVE nuke burst type characters. So I'm so ecstatic about this. Glass cannon type of guy XD
Blade and DHLI have different play style and options. I’m interested to boost my team’s dps, not only running hypercarry. Blade gives us an option to build enough powerful team with two dps, that’s why I’m waiting for jingliu, that combo is going to be cracked.
@@SlL222 Ironic that the two who are trying to kill each other have really good synergy xD
@@zmm1337 and luocha is cherry on top) blades nightmare
@@SlL222 lmaoo😂
You played Blade as a single dps in the team while his biggest selling point is that he easily allows you to add another dps next to him.
The two horned guy however doesn't allow that unless its Blade.
So a fair comparison would have been Blade+a dps Vs the two horned guy.
Hell, Blade can easily allows me to use 3 dpses in the team. Take their total dmg then compare it to the guy who uses 3 sp to dash that dmg.
Blade any day.
Yeah this is a fair point, since he's a very plug and go DPS that will fit on any team. However this was just a DPS Comparison test to see the difference in damage between the characters. Once JIng Liu come, I'm sure Blade will even get more stonks!
@zmm1337
Looking forward to Jing Lu Blade combo
Omg I knew it! He really become unfair & OP🙈😭the character broke the game now😅 Nevertheless, I look forward to pull him today. Thank you for the awesome video Zeto!😍☄️🙌
Thank you! Excited to see your video on his E0 clear!
Its just funny how JY get Powercreep by Seele and then continuously gettin powercreep by Kafka then Dangheng IL. Give that man a rest 😂. For all honestly JY has good talent but Hoyoverse decide to just BUTCHER IT, not gonna make any buff, nerf his support (TY) and nerf his Trace 😂 but only buff his technique that only do a thing in first round. He even need LC to be compete but still Lose 😩, imagine they buff his LL rotation and make LL mechanic is more helpful than suddenly get bench whatever JY get CC. They just need to speed tune LL make it in 80/90 spd and instead every stack give 10 spd, its should be 5-6 spd, Give his basic can do 1 stack and let LL have 4 stack already not 3, instead of CC block LL, its should let LL do advance foward attack turn but -1 or -2 stack if they are more than 4 stack then when JY is dead LL unleash 10 Stack for finishing (this should be a good combo with Bailu). I just afraid they gonna Butcher Topaz Follow Up Attack, 1 thing for sure make Topaz better that her Follow up has more spd and have advance foward mechanisms
Yeah, they gave JY too many restrictions
Foe me who always going auto to farm he kinda..... Stupid in negative meaning. The AI kinda stupid too maybe. I have like 3 SP and he refuse to use skill 3 times. Pela Always use her skill. Tingyun kinda fix now so i dont have problem. Also if you Planing 1 turn Cycle you Should use HP boots on Blade. Since HP and Apeed didnt that far so use what most valuable substat had. My Blade was 8K with speed boots so you can surely get more than 10k with HP boots.
also i didnt see your Sphere, since Wind Sphere and HP Sphere kinda same you can improve more for blade. *STILL* Blade cant nuke as strong as Dan Heng because what Blade Bring to you is sepf sustain Attacker that refuse to die. While Dan Heng IL is You cant get dmg if you Nuke it First.
Yeah Blade burst is not that good, but his consistent damage and ability to continue doing that damage is why he'll always be good. You can always plug him on any team and he'll dish damage. Jing Yuan however, idk man they gotta do something for him or erudition as a whole xd
......this is REALLY convincing me to pull for IL. GUYS HELP! do i save for fu xuan?
What do you need? Do you have any other Sustain like Gepard, bailu, etc?
If you have bailu or Gepard, then you won't need Fu Xuan. IL provides unmatched damage
but if you don't have Gepard or Bailu, then I would recommend saving for Fu Xuan
i..... i decided to pull cuz i needed 1 more copy of Asta for E4...... i pulled IL on 3 pity AND won the 50/50! THIS VIDEO WAS A BLESSING
@zmm1337 I have gepard e1 and loucha. So I kinda don't need fu xuan I just think her animations look good. So getting Danny was probably a better option for me
OH MY LORD 214 K ?? WHAT THE ACTUAL F* ????
That's what am sayinggggg
traces aren't even maxed
What build is the bronya with IL?
Just a typical bronya w/ spd, f2p harmoney lc, and 4pc hackerspace
Your Blade and Bronya are not speed tuned. Blade should be 135 speed and Bronya 134 speed, allowing Blade to make 4 actions in the first cycle. The difference is huge as your current build with Bronya having higher speed only allows blade 2 actions in the first cycle, essentially halving his damage.
Thanks for the video nonetheless.
Hey, thanks for commenting. I made a specific mention that I will be putting blade on HP boots and IL on attack boots at 0:44 for the comparison. As the same can be said for IL, if we give him speed boots he will be able to make 4 actions as well. (Where he only needs 2 of those actions to 20 cycle) It would actually be advantage for IL as well since he only requires 1 substat to get 135 spd, while Blade request 6 substats since his speed is a lot slower and his 4pc doesn't give speed. The point of the damage comparison is to show the difference in damage so players have a point of reference to how much DPS Lunae can do compared to his competition.
Also, 3:10 Blade had an extra turn over IL w/ Bronya. I didn't even use Bronya's skill to bring IL up (Basically he didn't even need Bronya to 0 cycle). IL just one shotted the boss in 1 turn. If the boss had 2x more HP, IL would still 0 cycle the boss while blade 4 turn w/ Bronya wouldn't matter
@@zmm1337 No doubt IL damage will be higher and will clear faster, but the point of blade is that he is SP neutral and allows Bronya to skill every turn, and he is the only DPS that allows Bronya to skill every turn because of this. The difference would be smaller for sure. IL's best boots is attack as he is -3 sp per turn and is unsustainable with speed boots, while blade's best boots is speed for the above mentioned reasons. Your comparison is still valid but I just think it would be better to use the most optimal rotation for both Blade and IL for a better gauge of both characters.
they made the Dang Heng IL insanely OP on the other character they made Jing Yuan Relying too much with his sig LC and Tingyun, seriously hyoverse ?
It's annoying how running JY with anyone else but tingyun feels terrible. He's a character that already has so manyrestrictions. limited damage on demand, and lightning lord is ironically worse when there are more than 1 unit.. He's like a character that is trying to be Destruction, Hunt, and Erudition all at the same time... Instead they should've made him into a real erudition character where his damage on each target increases as there are more enemies, maybe like increase the number of strikes lightning lord does per enemey (i.e. herta & himeko. For example herta passive triggers the more enemies there are).
@@zmm1337 also he is only character that can't genrate any energy from his own LL follow up attack lol (which is stupid imo)
@@Dian-p7j FORREAL... like how many restrictions are they gona put on this guy lmao
@@zmm1337 they chokehold on him and after his banner thundercunted him to the fuckin ground. Hes the most enjoyable unit tho.Also why his ultimate needs 20 more energy to deal same dmg as a herta ultimate.
@@mehmetenescetin2182 🤣🤣🤣 that last herta comment made me laugh to death. So true
I like how broken he is. Time to make enemies which will be on an equal footing with him. :)
LOL I love this mentality! I hope the new sim universe content will be challenging.
Hes too op xD the only way to nerf this guy is to take away the skill points xD
Don't give hoyoverse any future MoC mechanic ideas 😂😂
Hus ultimate is counter for skill sap lol no problem
Daniel is a no brainer, oneshoting everything isnt very fun, once u killed everything in the forgotten hall and the simp universe with Imposter Lunie what else do you have to do? I rather pull for Fu Xuan, she will be very good for every Team, Dani Hang Super Sayan is just too busted and does not do anything else for the party xD
I agree, but I also disagree. The valuable thing about supports is that they have the most usage. DPS are very specific to certain enemy weakness, etc. HOWEVER, The fact that Daniel does so much damage, he basically has a silverwolf built into him. So he can be plugged on any team as well to clear any content. I will showcase this on my next video
@@zmm1337 okay great, i'm highly interessted to see that. :D
i lost my 50/50 to clara and i dind't get him i think i will skip fu xuan
Actually it's insane. I mean he is not even using any artifact set effects yet o.O
Man if they release a specific relic set for him, it's over for any future DPS lol
Glad I lost 50/50 on Blade banner.
You can't go wrong with the best DPS in the game that is both good in single target and multi target lol... more people are pulling cause they're realizing that he does so much damage that he's basically silverwolf + seele
@@zmm1337 I genuinely just got back in the game for Dan Heng since I was a Dan Heng main since Day 1 and it seemed unfair to not get his skin HAHAH
How do I get lucky with the pieces😭
You pray to hoyoverse God (Aka Silver Wolf) 😂😂
@@zmm1337 gonna make a silverwolf shrine I swear
Why is he doing the same damage as my kafka in SU ??
He might need better buffs. I will release a full guide to his autoplay maybe soon!
@@zmm1337 I was saying your Dan Heng was doing incredible damages
Sorry 😅
@@Nokyyyyy Oh haha 👍
I kinda hope the power creep stops else the game will loose people and if they make it harder , the game will loose people even more. Power creep is bad for most games.
I agree, but thankfully since this is not a pvp game, it's not as bad. It's definitely hard to balance the game between casuals and non casuals. Especially gacha games
@@zmm1337 Genshin is quite balanced. I was hoping they could achieve that. If not, Genshin will again rise the top being Hoyoverse’s best game. They will need to now make a cracked Jing Liu. If she is stronger than Dan Heng , when will it stop
@@zmm1337 I feel bad for people who pulled for JY
@@djay00009 I think Genshin is still Hoyoverse top game rn based on numbrs. Maybe not sales, but they are definitely getting more younger audience according to google trends. And yeah, if whoever pulled jing yuan for meta is not gona like this guy
Hes so strong I wish he was a waifu though :(
Stay strong for Jing Liu and Topaz fellow friend
Hell no, there are plenty strong waifu, we need more op male characters
@@restart6358 Hello no, Dan Heng, Blade, Luocha already insanely OP
@@Dian-p7j kafka, seele, bronya, ting, pela, fu xuan, silver wolf, topaz, jinglui is not enough for you? Ah of course waifu simps hate when we get op male character
@@restart6358 jing liu is not even as op as dan heng IL bruh, his damage absolutely unfair to other unit like wtf
Busted
Mid yuan slowly going to the low yuan realm
Imagine his rerun... omg what are they going to do 😂
Honestly while he does give a lot of big funny numbers, it is worth mentioning 2 issues he has
Let's start with the obvious, this guy eats your SP bar for breakfast, and every hour of the day is breakfast hour for him
And two, him being destruction ironically plays against him, cause he is basically a glass cannon, he has fairly low HP and def for a character on a path that has the third highest aggro rate in the game (after preservation and foxian beauties)
Tingyun approves of the lore accurate analysis for aggro rate👍
why do I have a feeling like he's getting overrated ? Sure he's strong but the amount of "oh my god this character is so broken" idt is deserved. All the characters showcased were 1 turn away from him which let's be real is nothing to get so excited about.
Hey, thanks for commenting, but for MoX 6, the enemies are weak to Lightning but Jing Yuan is 1 cycle behind him vs. Lightning weakness enemy. The enemy has no imaginary weakness and IL was ahead of Jing Yuan by a while cycle. I think that's a big disparity, don't you think?
@@zmm1337Well , in my opinion not really . Also if the weakness mattered so much why not test IL against something with imaginary weakness it would be 20% better I think so instead of 214 it would be 245-250 per enhanced basic if I'm not wrong. And in moc 10 I doubt that will be such an astronomical difference compared to everyone else. It would be better don't get me wrong but not to the degree I've seen everyone praising him.
It's just that people have short memory and little to no knowledge about the game. I can't deny that he is strong, probably the strongest DPS in terms of raw numbers. Nevertheless, he has his caveats like being married to SP positive supports and general reliance on the team, which in turn makes him very inflexible. But when people see those 100-200k dmg - "omg, he is bwoken" and they just disregard his issues like it's nothing. Also, invalidating previous DPSes to make it seem like the new one is 2-nd coming of Christ is a common trick, as it always has been unfortunately.
@@shidzenrekunsums it up quite well. Most players dunno a thing about game's mechanics but show them big numbers and they'll be sold immediately. Just imagine if Dan Heng had mediocre numbers, I'm 99% sure nobody would pull for him. Big numbers are the easiest thing to sell to a genshin-like community.
A straight damage DPS is great but blade like dps's are much more flexible, consider the amount of flexibility you have on team members, and the amount of stuff you can try with such characters. They have mechanics that can pair with various other characters, classes, or supports. Straight bursters are always just, well, bursters. They are great to burst down (any) content but when it comes to having fun with comps they are the least satisfying to play with. Some players defend this by saying "oh but I love erasing enemies and 1 shotting them", not really. You love it now, you'll get bored sooner or later.
This is a Honkai game. The main trio is always OP. Just look at all the different versions of Kiana, Bronya and Mei in Honkai Impact. Always OP💖
Mei was pretty shitty before HoT release, she didn't have a single useful battlesuit.
The only strong Bronya's battlesuits were HB, HoTr and HoR after new PRI-arm released. Bronya also has 2 worst battlesuits in the game: DB and BN.
Only strong Kiana battlesuits were her herrscher ones. And HoF didn't even last in meta for a year. Was immediately powercrept.
So you are just wrong.
I never played HI3, but I love how they're adding so much QoL and future endgame content in HSR, this is amazing!
@@0kaiKai I meant their Herrscher forms too. Just didn't want to type so much explaining everything. Basically what I meant was Hoyo doesn't mess up with their main trio and they always turn up quite solid and strong on release. Doesn't matter who powercreeps them in a YEAR.
@@pomee9014 you are just wrong. There was at least SW Bronya, who was never good, even at release, and she is newer valkyrie
@@0kaiKai Sure sure you're right then😆. Have some sweets now💖
This guy is blatantly op, they should really stop their powercreeping its becoming pretty boring.
Can i see u moc bro? Stage 1-5 im cant win b3 😂😂😂
Yeah will have a video out soon for all stages w/ Lunae teams
thanks@@zmm1337
This is still not enough to make me pull
And my zero pull account is my only main account
Okay, congrats ? I guess lol
I have 2 accounts so that I can satisfy my gambling addiction 😂
@@zmm1337 too much of a hassle honestly if you're someone who play a bunch of games
@@nepgee6406 yeah it's a bit much unless you're a content creator. But to be fair this game is an auto battle game that you can close your eyes to play. People that play genshin with multiple accounts are actualy zzz brains
@@Influocial i have the mihoyo big 3, then a horse girl racing, leaving those cute school girls, no longer a furry doctor, then do some thumbs training with some music. As for PC i only have Valorant and Dead by Daylight probably gonna play some games that i never touched yet after buying, and apex on PS4
There's just too much to play
waiting for hp buffer so that Blade could become a monster
He's already a monster! His role is so unique as he can be plugged on any team as a sub-dps and deal tons of damage. His auto gameplay is also amazing
Literally Bailu and Lynx buffs HP (Lynx is better for Blade because gives more aggro for increase ultimate recharge and blade stacks)