Abu jahl was actually pretty intelligent and eloquent. The problem is that Abu jahl stuck to the old religion because of economic reasons. He chose dunya over akhira, that’s why he’s Abu jahl.
@@nabil5535 No, he was not intelligent in any real sense as defined by the Qur’an which repeatedly challenges the intelligence of the pagans ( أفلا يعقلون) and argues that they suffer from spiritual blindness (فإنها لا تعمى ألاأبصار ولكن تعمى القلوب التي في الصدور). He did not simply choose this world. He chose Self, rebellion, obstinacy, false idols and Falsehood over Truth.
Cause he knows the truth he is fighting it. He desperately want it to be false so he won't be punished when he dies but he is only fooling himself. Self delusion. May Allah guide him.
Who ever reads this message I hope it finds yous in good spirits and may Allah SWT grant us happiness peace success contentment and may Allah SWT look after all our affairs in this life and the next may Allah SWT protect us from harm and oppression and being oppressed may Allah SWT grant us the Rizq which is meant for us may Allah SWT grant us all a righteous spouse may Allah SWT make our kids of the mojahedeen and the pious ones ❤️ and may Allah SWT forgive us for our sins we committed in private and in public and may Allah SWT protect our Muslim brothers and sisters who are being oppressed around the world Allahumma ameenn
The problem with anti-islamists is they always thought they are special and unique for finding faults within the Quran. What they do not know or refused to acknowledge is those issues they thought they found them were just a repeating series of the same questions/issues/faults/contradictions for 1400 years. They all have been answered since the era of prophet Muhammad and those issues are just their misunderstanding from quoting blindly out of context.
lagubrok92 - I found your statement to be sensibly and kind. Perhaps you could help me understand the following verses: Quran Verse 18:26) Muhammad Sarwar: "God knows best how long they stayed there; to Him belongs the unseen of both the heavens and the earth. How clear is His sight and how keen His hearing! No one other than Him is their guardian and no one shares His Judgment. Regardless of the interpretation I have read it basically claims what Jews, Christians and Muslims do agree on which is only God can judge the world and forgive sin. That I understand. The following two verses I could use some help with: Sahih Bukhari 4:55:657 “… surely (Jesus), the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind…” “And (Jesus ) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment)…” (Quran verse 43:61). Regardless of interpretation these verses seem to state that Jesus is coming to be the judge. How could this be true if only God can judge and will not share that authority?
@@ianalan4367 bro Muslims believe in second coming of Jesus peace be upon him but we don't believe in crucification of jesus nor being Son of God or trinity, coz according to Quran he wasn't crucified coz he was saved by Allah,jesus will come back to fight with antichrist along with his followers,those would be Muslims and christians,coz he will come back to give the true message that God is one with no partners and Jesus is not God or son of God,then after killing anti christ there would be peace everywhere then jesus peace be upon will live and rule for forty years.
One thing common in exmuslims is they are all irritated frustrated uneasy to communicate with and act like clowns because they don't have the remembrance of Allah in their hearts anymore. "Indeed, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find peace" 13:18
I left Islam after realising its not real. I was shocked and admittedly was extremely sad for a while upon my realisation. Yet after some time, you get use to it. I am now content with my decision, yet open minded enough to be possibly wrong.
@@sub7se7en firstly i find no evidence of anything supernatural. 2nd. Flying horse, 3) Questionable morals regarding: slavery, child marriage, polygamy, LGBTQ's right to life, capital punishment, cutting off of limbs as punushments, punishment for fornicarion and adultery, necessity of covering up women (even when against their will.) And many moral moral dilemmas therein. 4) Abu Tahir who desedrated the kaba and stole the black stone to use for istinjah in his toilet for 20 odd years, and muslims kissing it every day. 5) i wouldn't want to live under actual shariah. 6) laws on apostasy.
@@John_Urnagbob 1. What do you consider supernatural? Depending on definition there absolutely is evidence. And even if there wasn't an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. But there is evidence. 2. Strawman 3. If you are operating on an atheistic paradigm then there is no objective morality and so no objective right or wrong. Reality does not conform to your subjective views. So using these as critiques of whether Islam is true or not is fallacious. 4. To my knowledge there is no evidence he used the black stone for istinja, but even if he did that doesn't falsify the religion. This is a non-sequitur. 5. That has nothing to do with whether Islam is true or not. 6. What I said in 3 applies here as well. This doesn't falsify Islam. So with the exception of #1, which needs to be explored further, you don't have a logical and rational reason for leaving Islam. I'd like to hear an expansion on #1 and also see why you feel fallacious and emotional justification are viable reasons for leaving.
@@John_Urnagbob 1. What do you consider supernatural? Depending on definition there absolutely is evidence. And even if there wasn't an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. But there is evidence. 2. Not in Islam 3. If you are opperating on an atheistic paradigm then there is no objective morality and so no objective right or wrong. Reality does not conform to your subjective views. So using these as critiques of whether Islam is true or not is fallacious. 4. To my knoweldge there is no evidence he used the black stone for istinja, but even if ihe did that doesn't falsify the religion. This is a non-sequitur. 5. That has nothing to do with whether Islam is true or not. 6. What I said in 3 applies here as well. This doesn't falsify Islam. So with the exception of #1, which needs to be explored further, you don't have a logical and rational reason for leaving Islam. I'd like to hear an expansion on #1 and see why you feel fallacious and emotional justification are viable reasons for leaving.
Thats why its important to learn youre dean based on the quran and sunnah not liberalism, this ex muslim brought a lot of doubts where you did not respond to . thats the problem of people whitout studying giving dawah
I feel bad for him, he is lost, and at old age, no one is taking care of him and leave him alone to stew in his own craziness. The only people that he can relate to, are Islamophobes, that validate his hate because he used to be a Muslim
This person stating that he's 60 years old is just trying to play victim card after his planned, prepared script started falling down... Jazak'Allah Khaer brother Zeeshan
It is so sad to see people spend their whole lives and literally learn nothing about religion, they carry hate in their hearts just because other people don't believe what they believe, a 60 year old racist and hate preaching is a prime example what is wrong with this society, humans are so ungrateful to god for all the blessings he has given them yet they are never thankful
yo Z man, engaging w/ such fools is beneath us man.. u gotta exit such fools, let it be a lesson.. but i hear u brother in heat of moment, we dont think rationally but im sure you regret any dialogue w/ this guy. i'd take this video down. To entertain this fool is crime, you committed.. god bless bro
This is what Abu Jahl probably sounded like…
Abu jahl was actually pretty intelligent and eloquent. The problem is that Abu jahl stuck to the old religion because of economic reasons. He chose dunya over akhira, that’s why he’s Abu jahl.
@@nabil5535 No, he was not intelligent in any real sense as defined by the Qur’an which repeatedly challenges the intelligence of the pagans ( أفلا يعقلون) and argues that they suffer from spiritual blindness (فإنها لا تعمى ألاأبصار ولكن تعمى القلوب التي في الصدور). He did not simply choose this world. He chose Self, rebellion, obstinacy, false idols and Falsehood over Truth.
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The morality of being intelligent has to be taken from Islam. And Islam says the intelligent person will choose akhira over Dunya.
he was a first class z#bbi
ebu cehil
My man 60 years old, still trying to justify his ex muslim visa 😂
Cause he knows the truth he is fighting it. He desperately want it to be false so he won't be punished when he dies but he is only fooling himself. Self delusion. May Allah guide him.
And he embarrassed himself in the process even more than robert spencer😂😂 the visa isn't worth it
Who ever reads this message
I hope it finds yous in good spirits and may Allah SWT grant us happiness peace success contentment and may Allah SWT look after all our affairs in this life and the next may Allah SWT protect us from harm and oppression and being oppressed may Allah SWT grant us the Rizq which is meant for us may Allah SWT grant us all a righteous spouse may Allah SWT make our kids of the mojahedeen and the pious ones ❤️ and may Allah SWT forgive us for our sins we committed in private and in public and may Allah SWT protect our Muslim brothers and sisters who are being oppressed around the world
Allahumma ameenn
@@richinISLAM22 I needed this, Ameen.
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Hey brother, don't underestimate this man's strongest argument: " I was born!" 😂
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Typical Arab Christian tricks, claiming as ex muslim.
Bro got smashed and realised he couldnt press the redo button brother zeeshan iam proud to be your brother in islam
@@sambal8272 in Islam they press the pedo button.
The problem with anti-islamists is they always thought they are special and unique for finding faults within the Quran. What they do not know or refused to acknowledge is those issues they thought they found them were just a repeating series of the same questions/issues/faults/contradictions for 1400 years. They all have been answered since the era of prophet Muhammad and those issues are just their misunderstanding from quoting blindly out of context.
lagubrok92 - I found your statement to be sensibly and kind.
Perhaps you could help me understand the following verses:
Quran Verse 18:26)
Muhammad Sarwar: "God knows best how long they stayed there; to Him belongs the unseen of both the heavens and the earth. How clear is His sight and how keen His hearing! No one other than Him is their guardian and no one shares His Judgment.
Regardless of the interpretation I have read it basically claims what Jews, Christians and Muslims do agree on which is only God can judge the world and forgive sin. That I understand.
The following two verses I could use some help with:
Sahih Bukhari 4:55:657
“… surely (Jesus), the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind…”
“And (Jesus ) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment)…” (Quran verse 43:61).
Regardless of interpretation these verses seem to state that Jesus is coming to be the judge. How could this be true if only God can judge and will not share that authority?
@@ianalan4367 bro Muslims believe in second coming of Jesus peace be upon him but we don't believe in crucification of jesus nor being Son of God or trinity, coz according to Quran he wasn't crucified coz he was saved by Allah,jesus will come back to fight with antichrist along with his followers,those would be Muslims and christians,coz he will come back to give the true message that God is one with no partners and Jesus is not God or son of God,then after killing anti christ there would be peace everywhere then jesus peace be upon will live and rule for forty years.
The man came to give his opinion, not to understant, neither to listen what brother Zeeshan had to say .
This guys intellect passed away
How can his intellect pass away when he didn’t have any to begin with
60 yo and emotional like a kid, AlhamduliLLAH for Islam
We're supposed to respect our elders.
@@misbahailia3345he is not one of us
@Just_A_Person45 still we should respect our elders even if they are not one of us.
This old man is a joker
@@amirmohammed3254so was Ur false prophet
Imagine being 60 and still not understanding how to have an adult conversation. Poor man.
May allah guide him & others like him.
Ex Muslim. = Easy visa = ...New Britton
"im not here to cook biriyani" 😂
Don't point there their is nothing 🤣🤣🤣
😅
savage 😂😂😂
One thing common in exmuslims is they are all irritated frustrated uneasy to communicate with and act like clowns because they don't have the remembrance of Allah in their hearts anymore.
"Indeed, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find peace" 13:18
I left Islam after realising its not real. I was shocked and admittedly was extremely sad for a while upon my realisation. Yet after some time, you get use to it.
I am now content with my decision, yet open minded enough to be possibly wrong.
@@John_UrnagbobWhy specifically did you leave Islam?
@@sub7se7en firstly i find no evidence of anything supernatural.
2nd. Flying horse,
3) Questionable morals regarding: slavery, child marriage, polygamy, LGBTQ's right to life, capital punishment, cutting off of limbs as punushments, punishment for fornicarion and adultery, necessity of covering up women (even when against their will.) And many moral moral dilemmas therein.
4) Abu Tahir who desedrated the kaba and stole the black stone to use for istinjah in his toilet for 20 odd years, and muslims kissing it every day.
5) i wouldn't want to live under actual shariah.
6) laws on apostasy.
@@John_Urnagbob 1. What do you consider supernatural? Depending on definition there absolutely is evidence. And even if there wasn't an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. But there is evidence.
2. Strawman
3. If you are operating on an atheistic paradigm then there is no objective morality and so no objective right or wrong. Reality does not conform to your subjective views. So using these as critiques of whether Islam is true or not is fallacious.
4. To my knowledge there is no evidence he used the black stone for istinja, but even if he did that doesn't falsify the religion. This is a non-sequitur.
5. That has nothing to do with whether Islam is true or not.
6. What I said in 3 applies here as well. This doesn't falsify Islam.
So with the exception of #1, which needs to be explored further, you don't have a logical and rational reason for leaving Islam. I'd like to hear an expansion on #1 and also see why you feel fallacious and emotional justification are viable reasons for leaving.
@@John_Urnagbob 1. What do you consider supernatural? Depending on definition there absolutely is evidence. And even if there wasn't an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. But there is evidence.
2. Not in Islam
3. If you are opperating on an atheistic paradigm then there is no objective morality and so no objective right or wrong. Reality does not conform to your subjective views. So using these as critiques of whether Islam is true or not is fallacious.
4. To my knoweldge there is no evidence he used the black stone for istinja, but even if ihe did that doesn't falsify the religion. This is a non-sequitur.
5. That has nothing to do with whether Islam is true or not.
6. What I said in 3 applies here as well. This doesn't falsify Islam.
So with the exception of #1, which needs to be explored further, you don't have a logical and rational reason for leaving Islam. I'd like to hear an expansion on #1 and see why you feel fallacious and emotional justification are viable reasons for leaving.
I find it quite interesting that many people from Jewish background and citizens of occupied philistine. Come and talk as ex muslim or atheist.
100pc !! For sure sion**** furthermore !
He's Persian, know many people like this.
Yeah another lost Iranian in the west trying to remmeber who he is
Man is 60 years and he is still angry with himself for not practicing Islam
Allahu Akbar! Alhandulillah for the Islam Subhana Allah!
بارك الله فيك
Ya Allah Guide us to siratual mustaqeem in the path of Muhammad sawn ❤❤
Jazakom Allah khair
Brother we love you just for your wonderful sense of humour
I was ganna say.
Alhamdulillah… thanks to Allah to bless us with definite knowledge. ❤
Brother Zeeshan absolutely schooling him Mashallah. Plus make Dua inshallah I become hafiz I know 7 juz from the back.
The last part "Don't forget your medicine" 😂😂
Zeeshan is very knowledgeable Mashallah!watching from Australia 🇦🇺
Disingenuous Christian masquerading as a former Muslim. Sneaky Christians up to their usual tricks. Kudos to Mr smile2jannah for thwarting his plans.
Christians are not Muslims, they have no reason to "masquerade"
Zeeshan is a 🦁
May Allah keep us with imaan and take us with imaan
There is nothing more valuable in this world then our imaan
In whole vdo just one thing got me.
“I AM NOT HERE TO COOK BIRIYANI.”🤣🤣🤣
What a great example of a human. I'm sure we all would like to be as he is one day. So much peace in his heart.
😂😂😂
MasyaAllah
" don't point at that, there's nothing there "
Zeshan really knows how to cook 😂
Give force to smile 2 Jannah 💯 🙏☝️☝️☝️🇵🇸🇵🇸
“Im 60 years old” “are you from pakistan?” “I have fungus on my toenail” 🥶
Seems like the uncle wants to extend his visa 😂😂
In 17th century, this guy on the left was arguing, "This is no more 17th, it's 18th century! We are advanced!"
I don't know why I'm laughing!
The best history man advanced humanities ever produces! 😅😅😅😊
Sick man 🧍♂️
الحمدلله على نعمة الاسلام
Thats why its important to learn youre dean based on the quran and sunnah not liberalism, this ex muslim brought a lot of doubts where you did not respond to . thats the problem of people whitout studying giving dawah
I feel bad for him, he is lost, and at old age, no one is taking care of him and leave him alone to stew in his own craziness. The only people that he can relate to, are Islamophobes, that validate his hate because he used to be a Muslim
Everybody can said he exmuslim..dont be to fool to believe 100 persen..he is exmuslim..Dont believe someone who you dont know and claim...
"There nothing there" Dammmm 😂
I'm not here to cook briyani 😂 oh dear Zeeshan that was funny 😅
He needs to see a psychiatrist
Intelligent people also see psychiatrists.
Don't loop everyone into one box.
I would never be able to argue with such a person 😅
Put your gangster in the fence Oldman.. That's speaker corner..
Wow u have patients of a saint coz I can even make it to the end of the of the video 😅
Some people get wiser as they age, others.........
izlam,izlam,izlam....it is ISLAM
He's one of those guys whose entire character and belief system revolves around them hating Islam. They are obsessed!
My head hurts.
You are really good at roasting Zeeshan bro...
12:55
...subtle
Before he left he said what he was 😂
Unbelievable how lost and rude some people are they need psychological help. Get him some help.
May Allah bless you brother zeeshan
15:45 it's so hilarious when this guy imitated Zeeshan "who who" 😂😂😂😂
Uncle sounded like a toy, when he imitated Zeeshan.😂
The uncle: Ahh?
Wait.. I didn't catch that. How old is that guy?
Ignore such person. Not worth it. Hr had no courtesy nor patience with anyone who had different views from him
Well hes got fungus in his toe nail😂😂
Give him some biryani😂😂
I burst out laughing at that part. 😂
But had to keep quiet since my Ummi Jee (Mum) was sleeping.
A little knowledge is dangerous.There is no reason to attack another religion.Live and let live.
Your never to old to learn, even if your 60.
Relax guys, he forget taking his medicine today.
This is a Persian baba, traumatised by Khomeini and the scarf burning movement. 😂😂 God help them.
He was spouting the revisionist theories of Wansbrough.
" i am balanced human " 😂😂😂😂
Surprised and proud at the same time, to see the traditional Malay/Indo outfit here! Also, that man is probably missing his regular meds cycle. 😂
I dont think this ever was a muslim.
I've never seen a 60 year old child before.
This person stating that he's 60 years old is just trying to play victim card after his planned, prepared script started falling down...
Jazak'Allah Khaer brother Zeeshan
Waste of space unfortunately…… May Allah swt guide us all & keep us steadfast towards this amazing Deen…… Ameen
I'm sure he forgot to take his pills
To have that ignorance at 60 is amazing
No manners for 60 years old man, very sad
some people better could not come here and speak. They expose themselve and the future is not bright for them anymore
Don't point there...there's nothing there😂😅😂
The man wants his visa application approved.
When asking for evidence this muslim guy is lost 😂😂😂
Yah yah yah yah 😅
To confuse people, you must confuse yourself, first, make it literal
I was born 😂😂😂😂😂 ok sherlock 😂
It is so sad to see people spend their whole lives and literally learn nothing about religion, they carry hate in their hearts just because other people don't believe what they believe, a 60 year old racist and hate preaching is a prime example what is wrong with this society, humans are so ungrateful to god for all the blessings he has given them yet they are never thankful
What was he even talking about i did not understand him 😂😂😂
It's like arguing with a stone. That is 60 years.
This man is not worth debating.
60 years and still never grown up.
This dawa need to debate sam shamoun or christian prince
7:27 Biryani 🤣🤣🤣
yo Z man, engaging w/ such fools is beneath us man.. u gotta exit such fools, let it be a lesson.. but i hear u brother in heat of moment, we dont think rationally but im sure you regret any dialogue w/ this guy. i'd take this video down. To entertain this fool is crime, you committed.. god bless bro
60 year old man got his degree from yapping university 🎓
He doesn't believe the manuscript and calls him a disbeliever. What ? 🤣
Ex Muslim or ex Shia?
Eh ehhh .. ethy ethy 🤓 14:50 😅
Give him 2 bucks, thats all he needs. He doesn't need to listen to any lectures.
If you can understand this, you can understand the problem of this man - BERHAU SETHYA GIA HAY 😂😂😂
Muslim by name only…
He taking no sense the guy which white t-shirt
Looks like it’s the day trip to Speakers’ Coner from the local loony bin
Their is no compulsion in religion... Now he can go home and fight with himself 😂
Crazy mental gymnastics
Sad age without wisdom!! 60year of ignorance.
I have a customer like this guy. Teflon nothing sticks to him. Best to avoid these characters for health