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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มี.ค. 2022
- In January 2022, 26 bodies were discovered in a river in Western Kenya. The bodies showed signs of torture, most pointing at summary executions, infamous tools of Kenyan policing. We investigate police executions and disappearances in Kenya.
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The title is ambiguous as to whether the police are killing or being killed.
I think thats the point
@@MPaxsu stupid point
Exactly
@@MPaxsu The video is clear that it's the former, so why have an ambiguous title?
Yes your so right because in the beginning i thought it was about police officers being killed. It took about 3 minutes till i figured out it was the police that was doing the killing. What a stupid title. Why would they choose that.
As a Kenyan, I appreciate VICE for showing the world what we are going through,. God be with us
I will pray for you and Kenya, remember that God is STILL in control!
@@Angel-tw3ko god isn’t real man stop lying to yourself
Your an American not a Kenyan
Like it helps this is not the first one
70th like
As a Kenyan I'm glad that this inhuman atrocities have gotten the the international attention
No one Will do anything to make it better for u guys
the way they treat lgbtq people in kenya and most of africa makes me have no sympathy them
@@elvangulley3210 great, you've learned nothing from the struggle of LGBT people.
This is nothing to what happens in western countries
@@elvangulley3210 Keep your sympathy, we don't need it
sent me chills when he said he isn't always 100% sure if they are killing the right person..
Crazy how underrated and underviewed these high quality documentaries are.
Underviewed? It got released today, how can it be underviewed
It was just released dimwit that's why there's barely any views 🤣
Still viewing,i'm here.
Name one other american documentary that youve seen from somebody other than VICE, ill wait
Before the 2010 constitution, criminals used to do prison time, the new democratic constitution gave rights to criminals, they started playing around with system, The public is lynching and killing them, while police is eliminating them knowing public supports!!
I'm Kenyan living in Kenya.From 2013 have been entangled with the police because after my husbands death in 2012,they were influenced by a powerful sitting woman rep,who was a girlfriend to my husband to finish me to get my house and other possessions.
I was arrested inside my home in Syokimau in august 2013 and charged with falsified criminal charges and while in police custody in Mlolongo,the police and that woman rep carried my household goods to unknown places and i've never recovered them.
The case remained in court till 2019 when it was dismissed.
The police and that woman rep goons have made my life a living hell because they track and trail me including in the phone because i was supposed to sue for compensation for unlawful arrest but they want to silence me.
Since 2013 i've never known freedom and maybe they will one day succeed because in this country this kind of harassment is never addressed.
My neighbours in Syokimau,Nairobi keep spying on me because they were convinced by my enemies that i should be removed from their midst.
I hope exposing this problems without fear will one day yield results and those living in fear like me get protected by the law.
Girl run. Get the hell out. Save up and head to the U.K or Scandinavia.
You are screwed you live in the one of the most corrupted countries on the planet. There’s no hope for Kenya because it’s a country run and controlled by thieves and low lives.
This is sad...my mum had an issue like this as well like 20 years ago...a councillor wanted our house, my mum refused to give it up, so goons were called one day (they made sure we weren't home) they broke in n threw out our stuff, n nothing could be done...cops refused to come (ATI no fuel), courts dragged the case on till my mum passed in 2016 n me n my siblings just decided to just let it go...too much other stuff to deal with
@@sareeyemanusqaame8723 says a somali😑😑
Goodness gracious. I am so sorry for the pain and suffering you have experienced. I hope you can find peace and safety very soon ❤️
I give her a lot of credit for venturing into this very sketchy area and asking the questions she did, especially that last bit with the "police" chief. Even just watching it from here, very scary.
Lmao Kenyan police will respect, protect and humbly answer any white person questions. Especially if the have some sort of security and foreign backing. They scared of the white man but will show extreme toughness and brutality to their kind. She is good bro.
My uncle fell victim of the said hit squads; but within less than 7 months non was breathing. My grandma set out for justice seeking mission in Ukambani n Harusha. ... blood in blood out.
Well sometimes you just have to spill some when a certain line is crossed and they have been crossing that line a very long time leaving almost no other choice and what better way to hit them without seeing you coming..
Don't put all of your information on the Internet bro.
I am from Ukambani and I can tell you things can work very well without even looking for the idiots physically 😂😂😂 you find someone shooting himself in the head mistakenly.
I’ve been to Kenya and Tanzania, they’re both beautiful countries. With very kind and outgrowing people, but the police corruption is seen everywhere. I even had to bribe a police officer on two occasions when I was accused of riding without a seatbelt, and smoking a joint which was a cigarette. For mzungu (white folk) its different and they usually just want USD, but it really gets you thinking about the treatment of their own citizens. It’s always your word against theirs, and they always win.
Yeah it’s pretty bad, when I was in Kenya riding a bus a police officer stopped and boarded the bus. He had the bus driver drive to the police station and wouldn’t let anyone go until he got a bribe from everyone on board. It was unreal to me how normalized police shakedowns are
When traveling in developing countries, it's bound to happen. The fact that this sort of behavior is something that the local populace has to deal with on a daily basis is a bitter pill to swallow.
Ironic because Western government are happy to fund corrupt political leaders in Africa. Leaders who may bring reforms are undermined and overthrown by the West
I’ve never had a bad experience with a cop in Tanzania maybe you was just unlucky
@@CrunkKing232 pretty obvious this is happening, no matter what you say death's prove the situation is real.
I'm from Kenya..our judicial system is hell
Everywhere in Africa
The judicial system is fine..dnt confuse the police with courts.
@@samanth. the Courts are the problem, literally the missing link in the chain
@@beefyscorpio True thank you Europe
@@darkstar4102 must be nice to blame all of your problems on something else. That’s why Africa can’t evolve
As a kenyan i have seen all the evils the police have been doing and i never realized what situation we're in as citizens of this great country until i watched this. Thanks to vice for bringing attention to this.
I am an Ethiopian, a business man from my country was abducted in day light by police in Kenya, while driving his Bentley the police pulled him over ane took him and never found.
Wow
@Kip Kipx excellent
I'm a proud Kenyan but I'll just say we aren't raised in broken families it's the system that is breaking our families controlled by corrupt police officers
@@arayikharutyunyan494 if you wanna be racist you should at least learn how to spell
@@arayikharutyunyan494 wtf? Just because someone lives in an area with crime means they’re part of it? Or is it just based on his name, you’ve made an assumption about who he is and where he’s from?
nah, you know that's a lie. it's not just the system.
Hopefully everything will be better in Kenya
I am a proud Kenyan and let’s be honest, it’s not just the system, the country is messed is because we are messed up.
Good for covering this story. As a Kenyan this is rogue killing. People dying like flies
Yah man
Rogue killing is when someone disobeys orders and kills for there own purpose, this is the opposite of rogue killing, this is government and police ordered killings to cover up corruption... this is the international definition of state sponsored terrorism against its own people...
@@4kays160 you said it. Not only covering corruption but also their own crimes
@@Goch46 corruption is a crime, one and the same.. they are silencing their critics by killing them, and killing those who know, but once everybody knows they cant kill everybody, so rise up my friend and spread the word to everybody....
@@4kays160 At least the people of Kenya are allowed to bear arms and defend themselves.
Born in Kenya, and have been living here ever since. Once, on a highway in Nairobi, my dad was driving and was suddenly stopped a police officer. The police officer demanded that my dad unlocked the car, so my dad did, and the police sat on the passenger seat, ordered my dad to drive to the next ATM. My dad did. In ten minutes, the police robbed my dad of 30-40K shillings ($300-$400 i think).
Never let a Kenyan police officer into your car. It's against the law.
Are you sure it was a cop.
Those poor children. This is just awful to hear. How somebody could do this is beyond my comprehension. I feel for those children. I pray they are all able to find peace and happiness 🙏. Sending love from Great Falls, Montana
Your kind seems to only think about the young children... and we know why.
Maybe their parents shouldn’t be criminals? Do you pray for their victims too? Or just the criminals?
VICE journalists give some of the most hard hitting documentaries I have ever seen anywhere. I'm actually speechless most of the time trying to process what I have just watched.
Mostly FAKE documentaries
This is just pure copy pasting. The same was reported by freelance journalists like a month ago
@@musyokadavid778 Still doesn't change the fact that they do hard hitting documentaries🤷🏾♂️
I think this is what America would look like if white people were a minority.
Biased
My cousin was so unlucky to be one of them. It's so sad and it's something that it'll be hard for me to live with.
Stay save and I send you a lot of power to heal someday
Truly sorry to hear this.
Stay strong 💪🏾
Yeah how many people had he robbed and killed before karma caught up, he was to die through vigilante lynching or the hitsquad.
@@segebwege4132 He didn't deserve that level of inhumanity
Pole sana for your loss.
My blood boils up watching this documentary. I am an Indonesian. It reminds me of corrupt government army-police officers before 1998 in New Order regime, doing extrajudicial killings, forced dissapearances and many more crimes against people. At present our police are still corrupt but the police reforms yields better policing every year. I hope Kenyans could reform their police and their judicial system. God bless.
Vice really came back strong with their content. They went down under for a few years but they’re now back better than ever.
bruv, Vice never left, they always pumping out content on the regular.
@@joeskumpy oh yeah your right about that, I meant the quality of the content wasn’t that good for awhile. Hope that make sense😳.
@@joeskumpy yeah but they switched to political propaganda for awhile and still slightly peddle in it
“Lower income and minority” targeted unfairly. It’s crazy how it’s the same story no matter what country.
Well we all live under a capitalistic economy. Capitalism is greed and the main reason for economic inequalities with boom and bust economic cycles. “I want my kids and they’re kids to have what I never did”. This leads to a hoarders mindset but with cash and assets to where the wealthy have more than anyone or family would ever need but it’s justified as securing a family legacy. They’re are very few people that truly benefit from this system in comparison to those that don’t and those that do tend to have the incentives of keeping the system how it is because they “made it” and you simply didn’t work hard enough.
Or it’s just the bs they all spit because they are “lower” they make themselves like that. And it’s definitely not like that in the US😂😂 crime is what puts blacks and Mexicans down in the US
... Of course... Those with most everything, aren't going to be robbing, stealing.
But at least its not some b.s. "racist" cops propaganda .. Even black cops accused of it before accusers realize.
Police work is a hard job.
But BLM never mention it when it happens in Africa.
As someone living in Nyanza region, Kenya, the story of River Yala has opened a pandora box of the gangsterism that is rife in Kenya. Great content as usual.
you would think just from common sense, they would have blurred that mans face.
whether he asked or not
@@Bee-tj8gc Good point.
@@Bee-tj8gc Vice is pretty bad at covering people's voices and faces, they were doing a video on mexican cartels that liked to torture and skin people who spoke out to them. Despite this they didn't even try to protect the identity of a woman who was speaking out about the cartel, except for some shitty mask she was wearing
@@agrobabb4943 dam that's fukd.
They have defenitley gotten people they've interviewed murdered.
If they don't step up on protection for their interviewees anonymity it's going to end up being dangerous for those reporters when they go back to those countries
Thank you for showing this to the world.
Well, I was working in Nairobi for a international organsiation between 2013-2019. During that I came across a lot of corrupt police offers who stopped me in my car, accused me of violation of traffic rules and asked for huge bribes. Fortunately i was protected by my semi-diplomatic status and got away. I didn't blame those officers. I know they are also victims of a corrupt snowball system within the police force, where most of the bribes end up in the hands of the TOP GUYS. It's very hard to fight corruption unless there is strong political will at the top for reforms. There is none in Kenya
None in Kenya cos They have made sure they have shut that down, using the same of system violence and killing of anyone aspiring to be that straight stand up guy attempting to change the tide
absolutely shameless...
It's a rotten country. We don't know where to go.
The interview of the young lady is heartbreaking... she has such a sweet presence about herself.. so sorry she has lost her brother this way...the state of this entire world is so chaotic. Police corruption is nearly endemic everywhere.... like, who do you trust if you need help? Then they wonder why ppl try to deal w matters on their own...💔
Would you say the same if you knew the other side of the story? It's highly unlikely that the police would target an innocent citizen going about their business legally. You just don't know how lethal these young men are when commiting crimes.
Lol apparently you don't understand how police corruption works. The one guy I believe they said stole a moped.. that's not worthy of being murdered. And police are not the judge, jury and executioner.. well they're not supposed to be. Period. Idgaf what they are ACCUSED of doing. There is a right and a wrong way... that's why there are judicial systems. And if police don't follow the law then why is it we are expected to? Police are supposed to be public servants.. not public killing machines. So to answer your question... yes I would still feel exactly the same!
@@mstreemoon8117 Obviously stealing a Moped doesn’t deserve Death as a punishment. Similarly you pointing out a misunderstanding of police corruption, your missing vital points as well & purposefully omitting context.
One key factor to consider is that Mopeds indeed can cause death. It sounds super goofy, but that doesn’t take away from the reality.
Motorized vehicles are insanely dangerous alone not even including the dozens of cars on the road also going 15-20MPH+.
It’s situational, context is mandatory, abuse of power needs to be determined.
Hopefully over time and as tech improves, PO won’t be able to turn their cameras off, more information can be obtained to determine the purpose of their actions, and hopefully a new way to recruit PO occurs by offering to cover university costs or other things to recruit individuals that are more connected to the community, societal changes, want to be more then a cop in the future so are more calculated in their decisions.
But as things continue to evolve as they are, it’s incredibly important to understand as many variables as possible.
How is everyone looking over the right to due process? Fair trials? How do you justify a murder with a hypothetical scenario that might have OR might not have occurred? How do you make excuses for ppl put in power to uphold the law being told by superiors to disregard the same law and turn into the very ppl that they are responsible for keeping the community safe from? You can't be serious. I'm not dismissing or omitting anything. I'm looking at the bigger picture. And this kind of POLICING instead of peace keeping is everything that is wrong... the key failure w this particular part of the government/judicial system!
@@mstreemoon8117 are you serious? Since when did the responsibility of fighting crime get categorised as peacekeeping? This is not a U.N mission. If you leave by the sword... Tell that to the people who have lost loved ones via crime or the man sprayed with bullets at a place called Kasarani in a case of crime. Upto date the man is bedridden and his life( he is actually lucky to be alive) got changed forever. If eliminating a few rogue elements through extra judicial killing saves the lives of many then we cannot argue against that. And don't say this is a hypothetical thinking, the above investigative piece highlights that a majority of those found in the river had pending crime cases in court.
What makes it sad is that there are so many bodies to be discovered and as a Kenyan, no justice will prevail. Glad Vice got to air about this.
wont be suprised if the guys being interviewed end up dead.
@@Tedkelvin Lol, no. Vice is owned by the same people who run the world. They are safe.
@@Tedkelvin as sad as it is, it`s a possibility. If you saw the raw footage of the expose, it was so tough to stomach, because in that situation, you`re like, that could have been me.
@@johnnymcblaze Ross kemp interviewed members of a local Sectarian Gang, only for them to be brutally executed even before the editing department had done a few cuts.
@@moriowagaming link please. thx in advance.
I can't believe this is my country Kenya 🇰🇪🇰🇪 in vice city..... Congratulations 👏👏 to those who aired this to the world 🌎🌎....
The problem in kenya are the corrupt police Officers people are dieing for nothing
This must be investigated, they are killing young men unacceptable
Time for justice
You know some innocent people accused of crimes were murdered and thrown into this river, sad stuff.
Some? How about many...
In Kenya, once you see a Subaru outback 2020 with an old number plate, run away and scream for help.
Subaru is synonymous with death. The criminals are given 3 warnings
Thankful for Vice News once again for bringing out issues going on throughout the world and not only in one place, while other media literally throw it at the back....
Thank you for exposing the corruption of this beautiful country. It's sad. I've lived in Kenya for over two years and corruption in government angers me. The poor are the ones who are affected.
Being a public activist in Kenya must be a vocation based on faith in exposing the truth...
Heroes every single one of them...
Brave and courageous...
🇿🇦
vice, please report on police killings here in the Philippines, so many are in denial about it
Thank you for reporting
As a tourist I saw a man people had accused of stealing beating so severely they broke both of his legs someone wanted to put a tire on him and burned him but the police came. It was horrific
Being a Kenyan is sometimes very traumatic.... 😭
Don’t she have like 10 others brothers and sisters and billions of cousins?? Rip 🪦
Kenia is very corrupt and dysfunctional ,you brought this on yourselves coz nobody obeys the laws.
Indeed brother Ochieng, Indeed.
I'd say considerably more than "sometimes."
Sometimes I would say all the time
Wow so sad! thanks for this report Vice!
5:07 Right there;the pain of every Kenyan citizen, being rejected by a system of your mother land 😭😭😭.. Kenya is broken beyond repair and fighting yet again and heads rolling is the only option left...
Thank you for this short documentary 😘👏
To hear the testimony from the hitsquad member is chilling, openly admitting to extra judicial killing.
And I wouldn't be surprised if a significant portion of the population supports said killings as well. Not everyone shares the same sacrosanct attitude towards due process as Americans. Hell you could even find plenty of Americans who would be more than happy to see certain criminals like child molesters lynched on the street.
@@dbojangles1597 Well as a kenyan you're half right. A lot of people support the executions of criminals and will even go one step further and do it themselves on the street with petty criminals. The problem however is that our police are so corrupt and have been for a very long time that they no longer differentiate between a normal citizen and a common criminal. People are being killed for being out at night, talking back to the police, refusing to hand out bribes, unfounded suspicion, plain cruelty among many other petty reasons.
When you get an institution that blatantly advertises that they dont want university students amongst their ranks as they are too "overqualified" then you know that you have a major problem. These days one is usually more afraid of the police than the criminals there really isnt much to differentiate the two groups
@@MarvoloSalazar They pull the same bullshit regarding educated candidates here in America believe it or not.
@@dbojangles1597 Lol there's something wrong with these people
@@MarvoloSalazar God forbid you hire a cop with a nuanced sense of morality.
VICE !!! Thank you for giving me assurance as to why I'm a big fan of your Channel this is an outstanding topic covered . INDEED Kenyan Police is some shady business
Official there need to take a portion of a police from one city to patrol another city, where they have little to no connections or affiliations in the surrounding area.
completely fire all of the cities police, take their guns badges and launch an investigation while keeping the other cities police force there, so not to have any of the detectives come under threat or coercion while carrying their duties and making arrests on corrupt police in the area.
And build up a brand new police force with no affiliation to the last officers. Only than send the officers from the other city back home.
Do this from city to city, town to town
@@Bee-tj8gc this would only be true in a book or movie. Good start.
As low as a man sinks he never reaches the level of the police, Quentin Crisp.
Extrajudicial Killings in Kenya have always had a mixed reaction.
You will find that a lot of people will justify them on the basis of the (very valid) fact that extrajudicial killings eliminated some of the most powerful criminal and terror groups in that country.
Say what you want, but ask any Kenyan how the state of the central part of the country would have been if the police had not cracked down and basically dismantled the Mungiki in the 2000s by killing thousands of their members and if they had not wiped out the terror cells that were collaborating with Alshabaab in Nairobi, Mombasa or North Eastern Kenya by eliminating them. The country would be in chaos today. Those groups were willing to fight back and it was a bloody campaign but the former succeeded and the latter has also been a success, though it is not yet over.
The problem has been...What comes next? The current administration has failed absolutely when it comes to reigning in Police excess. In my last visit, the target seemed to be alcohol shops in residential areas. Bribes are demanded EVERYWHERE! and there are people they tend to target ; Motorcycle riders, Drivers of passenger vans,White people, especially tourists, Non-Kenyan Somalis who are easy to identify as they do not speak Swahili or speak it poorly, Anyone with a decent car, South Sudanese(I have no idea why )and illegal immigrants from the rest of East Africa who are often extorted if they are found to have overstayed.
The Kenyan Police have escalated their campaign away from targeting criminals to killing innocent civilians who refuse to pay their bribes. That is the major issue.
They have been killing Somalis but then cry when somalis retaliate which they always will!
This is sad! Just yesterday two unarmed men were killed by the police on thika road. This should stop!
I lost my first born brother and never had a trace of his body... We just hope one day he would return home
It’s very sad. I hope you find him safe and sound inshaAllah 😢
My uncle too was picked by policemen it's now 7years we have searched every police stations,morgue,prisons everywhere
My cousin was found in City mortury having disappered on february 28th for a .month he was picked by 6men . What am sure is he died a very very painful death . He didnt have eyes and toungue . Its like they made hin drink acid or pour acid on him . He was unrecognizable . I will never forget what i saw . 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢. We just buried him RIP micheal Ngugi . I will never understand why you choose that path . 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 still so sad
This is a clear indication that something needs to be done fast. I wonder how many people need to die in order to raise the alarm. It's heartbreaking hearing this. May God protect us
This is heartbreaking
How timely is this story for Kenyans? It comes a day after a video emerged allegedly capturing Pangani Police officers executing two suspected criminals along Dr. Griffins Road in the country's capital. The Kenya Police Service was quick to confirm the incident...tagging behind were IPOA officials with their announcement promising to begin investigations. Citizens are used to this trend and series of events. With the general elections in August, we cannot overemphasize the need for police reforms and accountable. God help us!
*accountability
The people who rule Kenya are those who supposed to be held in mental wards they are actually lower than the rubbish.
Before the 2010 constitution, criminals used to do prison time, the new democratic constitution gave rights to criminals, they started playing around with system, The public is lynching and killing them, while police is eliminating them knowing public supports!!
You are rulled. They will never GIVE you freedom.
@@rarefootball10 shush troll
This breaks me, my heart goes out to all Kenyans.
Allow Kenyan refugees
The Terrorists is the One doing the Report!!
@@elennet4116 the US just announced we’re taking in 100,000 refugees from the Ukraine. We can’t just keep taking thousands upon thousands of refugees from countries in need
@@ruafraidoftruth..3408 😂 huh
@@cebollas2379 USA is the 3rd largest country in the World
They have enough space and large economy to fit in a Billion People
Countries with lesser land than USA have higher densely populated regions
this really shows how there are different levels of corruption..
They don't show these on mainstream media.Thanks Vice for the good work great documentary I liked before even watching 👍
I feel so sad for Kenya. I spent 5 weeks there almost 50 years ago now. Best trip of my life, amazing country and people. The world has degenerated so much since then and even though expected when reading prophecy, it's so hard to watch.
What prophecy?
Kenya hit squads came with colonizers so I am sure 50 years ago people were been killed in was not born then but I remember as a child when I was like six seven all the adults I new never used to say anything about about the government or police even behind closed doors they were scared to death and our farms were far appart and noone would talk about anything because they new, something
President Moi's regime saw an insane amount of degradation in this country, it almost pretty much became lawless, and that's not an exaggeration. That 24 year dictatorship set Kenya back decades. Kenyan's quickly forget though because a lot of today's current politicians were lining their pockets in that government at one point. Was a shitty time to live in Kenya and it seems like we're heading back there.
I lived in Kenya 🇰🇪 between 2010 and 2019 and this issue is pretty common. The opinion of the public is divided on this issue. There are those who believe this is the only way to save the public since the judicial system has failed to punish criminals and there are others who think this is another form organized crime with police uniform. That police chief is a liar, this issue quite rampant. It is a big dilemma and things are more complicated than police and criminals. It is the whole system that is crumbling and there is no easy fixed especially in a country like Kenya 🇰🇪 where corruption is the only language that those in power understand
It is overexaggerated in Kenya, but the whole world is coming a part at the seams right now. May God have mercy on us.
These journalists are of really brave or really crazy but I appreciate their efforts to bring these issues to light!!
Americans complaining about police brutality have this really bad habit of pretending it's not significantly worse so many other places. My prayers go out to the people's of Kenya living under such a broken regime. Just know evils like this cannot stand forever. The meek shall inherit the Earth. All the wicked shall be held accountable.
At least in America they kill live ion Camera
This is definitely worse by leaps and bounds.
I don't think we are pretending it's not worse in other places. Police brutality at every level is wrong. We can fight for reforms in the U.S. and have compassion for worse situations in the world.
Keep telling the truth Vice and never back down from the hard stories 💙💙💙💙💙
Very heartbreaking
Vice news all day long. Amazing stance on this segment. Well done
14:13 if the police fail to get convictions it's because they present nonsensical evidence to court. The courts' job isn't just to send criminals to jail, it's also to prevent innocent people from being unfairly punished. Whether it's because of their training (or lack thereof) or under staffing and under financing, the police in Kenya are just inept.
Exactly
Couldn't be said any better
This is hard to watch. Hope the Kenyans sees Justice soon enough.
Im Kenyan and I also agree that police corruption is rampant in Kenya , but I heard and seen stories of police corruption in many Asians , European countries and the US too.It is a global pandemic that the whole modern society need to take seriously.
Of course its there too, but in the USA, Western Europe and parts of Asia it happens way and way less though.
@@jjdelft3216 Well not "less" in the USA compared to the other places u listed,... but yes in those other places its possibly, slightly less than in other colonized, 'lawless' countries. Please look up the US statistics (2020 alone) and those are just the known ones. (Look at the demographics too and note where the approximately 3% minority of the entire country stands in that.) Unless you've only been to the entitled parts of America, you'd PERSONALLY know of ppl 100% murdered by police that got reported as something else even with witnesses there. 😂 That's in every state I've ever lived in. Its their mafia vs the cirizens: civilian or not. Bodies on bodies yearly. Guess we're good bc they don't make us drive them to ATMs etc but they still do the other antics to ppl who've never hurt a fly. The bs & murder numbers are still remarkably lovely in this "first world" country. Then ppl try to make Mexico and Africa seem out of control when America & other mostly Caucasian countries just clean it up nicer; usually at the expense of ppl who can go through every summer of their life without Sunscreen (in regards to the places YOU mentioned). Summary: Pigs are pigs. Dont get it twisted. Worldwide. (Bet they won't investigate their 'own' for bodies on episodes of Cold Case Files though lol.)
Praying for my Black brothers and sisters in Kenya.
This is the cost of institutional dysfunction…the state is weak and doesn’t address social problems like crime and poverty leading people to turn on the state and some toward criminality…criminals are able to use bribes and terror to act with impunity…police who are disillusioned turn to extrajudicial means which leads to innocent civilians becoming collateral damage…causing those people to turn against the state…cycle repeats!
The judiciary plays also a big role in this. When corruption permeates into such institutions that are supposed to dispense justice, the lives of this police officers are put in jeopardy.
And a vicious cycle from gen to gen
This is very sad. I was hoping things would get better in my home country but seems the corrupt police have gotten worse over the years.😢 #StandStrong🇰🇪
Isaac 84 Greetings from USA 🇺🇸. KEEPING OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN PRAYERS
Julia, if you somehow read this, I want you to know that I've followed you in your African affairs with vice. It takes true skill and empathy to be able to do what you do. The access that you get astounds me. I know that the editing has left out nearly every trial you have faced, but I can say with confidence that you are a truly brave soul. There isn't a better reporter in the world in my opinion. You are a living legend.
This is hearts breaking
this is an eye-opener to Kenyans who have no idea of the extrajudicial killings happening especially to the youth of this nation. If only an international body could get involved and bring justice to the victims' families because, unless help comes from outside they will never get justice. My gratitude to VICE news for the good work they do around the world, may God bless Kenya, and may God bless vice.
waiting for the big white man to come and save u lol losser
The youths experience it first hand even before it gets to the media.
No.man...you should train your police better. And prosecute the police involved yourself. Learn from other country's who do better yes. Bet believe me. Western country's only look out for themselves. They don't care about black lives.
" International body" pathetic. Such mindsets should be eliminated
@@Spin_or_dive so what? I love white people ❤️ they are my most favourite ethnic group.
Police works under the government
Government: We have nothing to do with this
I’m Kenyan.thanks and keep doing this . We are watching
In our country 🇰🇪, wen u r told the matter is under "investigation" it just means, forget and move on
True!
Heartbreaking
Thanks for covering this
The spokesman for the national police kept looking to the right during his responses... he's a very creative person.
What a terrifying place to live. Police are there to keep community safe, I can't imagine not having that peace, it's war against your own people
When humankind takes the law into their own hands, the river carries their souls to judgement.
Why don't we have the discussion. Why are cis gendered hetero men so horrible?
The problem is not mankind, its Men-kind
@@oneel3859 🙄,u live in a fantasy world,there are no cis-gendered people that's a term made up by trans -people to fit in, there is only man & woman, boy girl,female,male.there is no cis to it. Humans are born.male, female stop it.u sound silly.dnt matter how many surgeries or pills u take, that is not the term cis- man or cis- woman, people love to make thing or terms up to make them feel better bout themselves and no real woman or man want to be called that alt all.no shade this is the truth,had a trans call me a cis woman,no baby DNT call me that I DNT use that term or fish,I am a woman,born a female and I'm not confused at all by my gender,call me what the most high created me to be a real woman,not cis term at all.👍💯
@@oneel3859 you can’t base you’re opinions on someone based on such biased statements😂. It’s crazy how much some people are anti discrimination and anti racism activist(or feminist, sorry i don’t know all the proper terms. ), are so hypocritical because they say one category of people is “the problem”. That is the same as saying all black people are criminals just bc they’re black or all women should be in the kitchen cooking and crap like that. Ik since Im a white male in America that I haven’t experienced much discrimination or hate, except more recently over the past couple of years, it now seems that every day I see a post saying hateful things about straight white males, but it’s like I’ve never hurt anyone or go out of my way to be mean and I treat everyone I meet with the upmost respect I can. But of course I get categorized as a racist or a misogynist just because of my skin and what I have between my legs
Before the 2010 constitution, criminals used to do prison time, the new democratic constitution gave rights to criminals, they started playing around with system, The public is lynching and killing them, while police is eliminating them knowing public supports!!
@@segebwege4132Yet they continue to play God.
I just had an experience like this, being arrested for something i hadn't done recently in germany.. luckily they let me go after 10min when they found out i was the wrong person.. that was horrifying and scary tho! I can't imagine people actually being kidnapped and then killed or even tortured..
It's better in the wester countries. At least when you know you're innocent you don't have to fear. Here in Kenya the situation is very different.
The ironic thing here is as an American looking at this, it’s black on black crime, which is unnoticed in America, police brutalities which is high in America breaking constitutional rights by police officers and all of this is happening in Kenya as well. the same problem in South Africa Where racism is still very high we live in such an ironic world and nobody seems to notice
I weep for my motherland,Kenya💔💔
Criminals have no place in our society, they either reform and work hard like the rest of us or join their ancestors.
Interesting, as a outsider, trying to comprehend the reasons behind such senseless killings, how people justifies their actions, an once people with power start down this dark path of torture, killings etc, how do they stop, it’s like a serial killer who can’t stop, the more he gets away with killing, the easier it gets, the best way to get away with anything is to be in power, corruption always begins with good intentions, such power never gives up power willingly..sadly
Dude hides his face and then gives information about an identifying scar.... hope he is still alive.
he is definately unmasking himself
VICE is my best news channel ever anx always..
Love from kenya🥰
i love that my best channel documented this
This is so messed up😥
Pretty soon any politician on planet earth talking to any journalist about anything will just repeat "what...what's the problem, I do not understand the words coming out of your mouth right now, I have a meeting goodbye."
“I don’t want to lie to the public”
That part was the perfect cherry on top.
My motherland 💔😓. Thank you for exposing this brutality
Vice has been stepping up lately 👍 appreciate the good coverage
Hey Vice, there is an editing issue at minute 15:35, take a look at it whenever you can. Good video by the way!
I have lost two friends of mine on the 20th of January this year. One was a DCI officer. Their bodies decapitated and decayed in the aberdare mountains while their family members were busy looking for them all over. Kenya is officially a police state and the number of extrajudicial killings and forceful disappearances has been rising ever since this regime came to power!!
Sorry for your loss
@@munenex Thanks 🙏
Am glad your police officer freind was killed. He had been part of the problem and time came for him to pay with blood.
@@mgtvnews6890 You are part of the problem as well with this kind of attitude.
@@avidtraveler2620 And for your information, you can never be a freind to a cop. The lunatic will set you up at some point and sit aside to watch as you face the music 😂😂
One of the best journalist reports I have seen on the corruption in African Police forces. To watch that man deny any sort of misdoings by the Police was eye opening . A very brave lady to undertake such an investigation.
The motorcycle taxi driver might as well gave all his info. He provided plenty of information for the "cops" to find him. And I'm afraid if/when they watch this, they will finish him off this time.. Dude made a alot of crucial mistakes telling his story. I respect wanting to speak out to try to make a change in the awful things that are taking place. But at what good does it do if your just putting your life in jeopardy in the process?
Good point but there are probably a lot more stories similar to his. There could be other motorcycle taxi drivers that have also been harassed so narrowing it down might be difficult or time consuming.
As long as Vice gets the story, they don’t care!
Maybe he is making himself too famous so he wont be killed
Fear is their weapon. Watu waache woga arm yourself
Excellent work Vice. It’s tough tough world out there for those cops BUT they are def torturing and executing people that are accused. We (those that have brains) know that not everyone is guilty when suspected of or accused of a crime. That’s what makes what they are doing terrible. You can really just get swept up as an innocent person. Sheeesh we see it here in America…so imagine these foreign countries how it is for their citizens. It’s all over the world. Life is tough. Survive and thrive is the motto.
You should try to empathize with a victim of a criminal and when the criminal committing any crime towards a person does not show any mercy and remorse after committing the crime. Then why should you sympathize with him ????
If there exists a h*t squad trying to make an example for the people thinking of committing the crimes then what's the problem ?
I agree that their practices and tactics are bad but sometimes you must pick up a gun to silence a gun.
@@arayikharutyunyan494 the only way to silence a gun is through dialogue, using a gun just perpetrates the problem over and over
@@arayikharutyunyan494 Some of us are civilized.
@@arayikharutyunyan494
Did you not read the original comment? They said nothing pertaining to felling sorry for the ACTUAL GUILTY. They were talking about the innocence that get scooped up mistakingly (or not?) and seeings as there is no trial, no chance for said INNOCENT…..
@@JaysonT975 I know that. I am just saying about the people who commit crimes or think of committing them.
When she was speaking to the national police spokesperson he reminded me of a man that was interviewed in regards to Japans corrupt judiciary system and their 99.9% conviction rate. Same evasive attitude to questions they obviously knew the answer to while using hypotheticals to justify their own talking points. Interesting to see the same problem expressed in different ways in very different cultures many miles away from each other.
This is CRAZY!!!!
I come from this village, there was a time we picked 16 bodies in 2weeks, it's terrible.....the hit squads are degrading our water
Ok 'Lenny Sylvester' with that white upper middle class sounding name
@@vierzwanzig4082 what has his name got to do with anything? We don't have "upper class names" or "lower class names" in Kenya.
@@vierzwanzig4082 🤣🤣🤣... I am a peasant
Does this village have cows? If so I can tell you something you can do with them to make your community more peaceful and improve the water
Someone forgot to rewatch the footage before premier at 15:33 I reckon!
Yeah, thought I had accidentally clicked forward a bit or something, glad not only one to.notice that mess up.
Yes, that sudden cut-off of the narration makes me wonder what they felt the need to edit out.
Right? "Kenya has tried to reform the police..." Then we get pretty music and a shot of 2 people talking on rocks.
Since been changed 👍
THIS IS VERY SAID. 🙏🏿
The reality of life here: As a woman walking home alone at night I'm more scared of running into a cop than I am of being robbed
That says alot...hope you stay blessed
This is so true. Even as a man Im far more scared of running into the police than I am of actual thugs.
This is so disgusting, how can people be so cruel to each other... I'm sorry for all the lives lost and my condolences to their loved ones 💟😭