I miss the bowl games being on the networks. All are on ESPN now. CBS had Lindsey Nelson and Gary Bender, ABC had Keith jackson and Al Michaels and NBC had Charlie Jones and Don Criqui. Mizlou had all the non big 4 games. Great days.
Growing up in Las Vegas, (b 1955) i loved the bowls. They grew every year, but through the 60's and most of the 70's, here was the following etched in stone (almost). On New Years Day at 11at PST, was the Cotton Bowl on CBS, and at the same time, on ABC, was the Sugar Bowl. Then, at 2p it was the Rose Bowl, and at 5p the Orange. Two major bowls being played at the same time, really stood out, and they tweaked it in the early 70's, and started playing the Sugar Bowl on New Year's Eve. NYE '73, had no.1 Alabama and no. 2 Notre Dame going at it, and Notre Dame won at the end, as Dave Casper's fellow tight end for Notre Dame, caught the key pass late.
It's all about agility now. Smashmouth is long gone in history. It's sad. Idc about tricks...I wanna see a guy knock the shit out of someone without getting a personal foul.
# 46 Wes Hopkins was at safety for SMU. Known as 1 of the best walk-ons to ever play at SMU. He went on to play 10 seasons for the Philadelphia Eagles and making the Pro Bowl. A good career with over 30 interceptions. Wes passed away in 2018 at 57 years old. May the Good Lord rest his soul. Rest In Peace Wes ✊🏾♥️
I remember watching this game and it was cold, rainy and the field was so slippery that day. I lived in Texas all my life so we would watch the Cotton Bowl even if the Longhorns were not playing, always enjoyed listening to Lindsey Nelson call the game. This was a hard fought game and the weather was why it was 0-0 for nearly 3 quarters, I thought Pitt played kinda dirty at times but SMU prevailed anyway. Marino was throwing too hard on some passes and Dickerson looked like he would break one at anytime. I always thought it was wrong for the NCAA to give SMU the death penalty when many other teams did the same thing.
From Fitchburg Massachusetts. RIP to Todd Becker. He was a sophomore back up linebacker for Pitt who weeks before this game fell to his death at a on campus party. He was obviously drunk and so the story goes he was apparently banned from a certain dorm and when the campus cops showed up he thought he could get out from a window. Unfortunately he underestimated the drop and tragically died from the fall. I even read that a couple people were literally reaching out their hand to help but Todd refused the assistance and it ended in his death :(
NFL 1st round picks in this game. Dickerson and Dupard with SMU, Marino and Jimbo Covert Pitt. I remember watching this game. For a 7-3 game I was on the edge of my seat. All of Texas was in a deep freeze that New Years day. We where hoping for a outside chance that SMU would be picked Number One in final polls.
But unlike many other major NCAAF Power programs with bigger enrollments, many more powerful, influential boosters, alumni and frankly, many of these schools have a older, deeper repore and relationship with NCAA, a relatively small Methodist university in Ft. Worth, Texas doesn't stack up, comparatively speaking, to bigger, perennial old SWC 6 opponents like Texas, Texas A@M, and Oklahoma. Plus, while it's certainly very true historically that SMU wasnt the only NCAAF program using pay outs inducements to recruit, entice 4-5 star blue-chip HS All-Stars to enroll in their programs, SMU was doing it at such an extreme, visible extent under Bobby Collins that it wasnt too difficult or hard for ordinary fans to tell their program was clearly bought and paid for, much less NCAAF investigators. In the old, pre-NIL days, if you were going to cheat, make sure your cast of boosters or assistants handling the payoffs are small, don't run their mouths about any such program existing or their involvement, period; and for God's sakes, don't make it seem so glaringly obvious you're running an illegal player recruitment process.
Great football game reminiscent of the old school defensive games of past eras. On paper I deem Pitt to have been the better of the two teams, albeit only by a thin hair. Dan Marino had to be upset with his receivers for dropping more than a few critical passes he put right on their respective numbers. SMU, however, played great a game and won. The SMU defense was truly formidable and stifled a great Pitt offense. With this victory, I believe SMU should have won the 1982 national championship. At the very least they should have shared a split national championship with Penn State.
SMU should’ve played Georgia, but in those days they had their conference bowl tie-ins, Sugar and Cotton, and couldn’t meet. Most people thought Penn State would’ve beaten SMU, but who knows?
That Penn State team was great. I bet a friend of mine a dollar that Penn State would beat Georgia. I was just 15 so that was pretty much all I could afford.
Not scoring on that first drive was huge for Pitt. Ten points may have all that was needed to win but SMU’s defense made a great play penetrating to force the fumble. Pitt had trouble in its first loss that season scoring from close versus Notre Dame and led to field goals instead of crucial touchdowns.
When was the last time you saw a 7-3 game other than this? Always nice to hear Lindsay Nelson announce a game, the voice of college football. Back then, announcers were more nuanced and matter of fact, every play did NOT require a hysterical response.
Jimbo Covert #75, and Tim Lewis #26 for Pitt, were also 1st round picks. Chris Doleman was a sophomore backup, and he's in the NFL Hall of Fame. This team was ridiculously loaded with talent.
Incredible coincidence Mike, I attended the Cotton Bowl the next year, and the kickoff temp was almost the same. A brutal weather system occupied the area for what seemed like a month. The city was almost paralyzed I remember- black ice on the road etc. Undefeated Texas had a golden opportunity to win the National Championship that game, as powerhouse no.1 Nebraska was later upset in the Orange Bowl. Georgia didn't have Herschel, and had their usual stud defense, but a mediocre offense, while Texas had a middle of the road offense, and a good defense. Low scoring game- Georgia drove late to win 10-7 I think. Remember seeing Walker in a full length fur coat, when I was entering the stadium.
@@remmymafia3889 Yes what that one too, it was nice weather that day. Georgia won on a muffed punt by Texas late in the 4th and Georgia scored on a bootleg causing us Longhorns to lose a National Championship after Nebraska losing to Miami later that night.
@@remmymafia3889 I don’t mind the cold as long as the sun is out. The next year was as bad as the SMU game but my brother and I didn’t have cover that one. In the upper deck with all the B.C. fans.
What’s funny I found my old ticket stub for the 73 Sugar Bowl between Alabama and Notre Dame. It was the biggest game of the century at the time. Lol. My tickets cost 7 dollars!!!
I really hated this turf at the Cotton Bowl, any time there was even a hint of inclamate weather the game turned into the Ice Capades. Horrible turf. A lot of Cotten Bowls were ruined by this stuff.
we lost but our talent was way better and the conditions favored Pitt for that time of year, cold and wet, that pittsburgh winter weather, i was a big dickerson fan but a huge Pitt fan, i was 20yrs old in 83 first hershel waker in the 82 sugar bowl then dickerson in 83 both times Pitt's defense stepped up.
Pitt had 2 trips inside the 10 yard line and scored 0! If he didnt shank that 27 yard FG , pitt is running on 3rd and goal and Marino doesn't throw a int?
3 great players in Craig James, Eric Dickerson and Dan Marino and yet only 10 points. Stout defense or great defensive game planning or bad weather clearly.
Yo, you got the 91-92 and 93-94 Orange bowl and every one from 86 to present except the 92-93 FSU Nebraska game the year before fsu won 1st championship
Smu would've been co-national champs with this win, but they couldn't put Arkansas away in the season finale and tied them to finish 10-0-1 and fall to #4 from #2 and 11-0 Penn st jumped them and they instead played #1 Georgia in the sugar bowl. But it would've been Georgia SMU if they didn't choke the Arkansas game away
I don't know if SMU choked away the Arkansas game, but yeah, they clearly did not play up to their standards... I think SMU made the right call in going for one point conversion to tie the game. What people forget is that extra point to tie was, if memory serves me, with around 5 or 6 minutes left in the game, so it was not like they had the decision on last play of the game. Their main goal was to get to Cotton Bowl and a tie gets them in.. but what people forget is that SMU made a quick defensive stand and had the ball in plenty of time to operate a 2 minute drill to win the game with a FG.. but the 2 minute drill was terribly managed by Coach Collins and poorly executed by players too... the drive stalled, and I believe SMU missed a 50 something yard FG to win the game, or maybe they stalled out of FG range, I honestly don't remember.
All wrong. SMU as SWC Champs went to the Cotton Bowl. Georgia as SEC Champs went to the Sugar Bowl. 1 loss Penn St beat 1 loss Pitt in last game. Since Ga. was #1, Penn St. went to play them and SMU got stuck with 2 loss Pitt. Ponies needed a great showing to have a chance. The real team that was robbed was Nebraska. Got hosed on 2 calls at Penn St for their only loss and won OB to finish #3 @ 12-1.
I wouldn’t say Pitt let go of Sherrill. He was offered a massive contract by Texas A&M for the day’s standards and Pitt couldn’t match it. But your point stands, we were never the same after he left. Too bad they didn’t hire Jimmy Johnson, who was a defensive coordinator under Sherrill at Pitt.
An 8-team playoff would've been epic. #1 Georgia (11-0) v #8 Texas (9-2) #4 SMU (10-0-1) v #5 UCLA (9-1-1) #2 Penn State (10-1) v #7 Clemson (9-1-1) #3 Nebraska (11-1) v #6 Pitt (9-2)
That's the dumbest thing I've heard as marino's numbers were as good as any ones the reason he wasn't picked earlier is some folks thought he had a drug issue
@@jesseleblanc1199 Marino had more INT's than TD's in 1982. The reason he was still thought of highly was because of his previous season. The drug issues did add to it but many felt he wasn't as good as people thought.
I miss the bowl games being on the networks. All are on ESPN now. CBS had Lindsey Nelson and Gary Bender, ABC had Keith jackson and Al Michaels and NBC had Charlie Jones and Don Criqui. Mizlou had all the non big 4 games. Great days.
Growing up in Las Vegas, (b 1955) i loved the bowls. They grew every year, but through the 60's and most of the 70's, here was the following etched in stone (almost). On New Years Day at 11at PST, was the Cotton Bowl on CBS, and at the same time, on ABC, was the Sugar Bowl. Then, at 2p it was the Rose Bowl, and at 5p the Orange. Two major bowls being played at the same time, really stood out, and they tweaked it in the early 70's, and started playing the Sugar Bowl on New Year's Eve. NYE '73, had no.1 Alabama and no. 2 Notre Dame going at it, and Notre Dame won at the end, as Dave Casper's fellow tight end for Notre Dame, caught the key pass late.
Lindsey was always a fun listen I grew up listening to him on WOR new york were he worked for the Mets for a long time
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Man, the hitting is ridiculous! Real old school football.
It's all about agility now. Smashmouth is long gone in history. It's sad. Idc about tricks...I wanna see a guy knock the shit out of someone without getting a personal foul.
I miss those old triple option QBs. When they had it going it was poetry!
Amen
No doubt.. Couldn’t have said it better. The option run well is absolute poetry..
# 46 Wes Hopkins was at safety for SMU.
Known as 1 of the best walk-ons to ever play at SMU.
He went on to play 10 seasons for the Philadelphia Eagles and making the Pro Bowl.
A good career with over 30 interceptions.
Wes passed away in 2018 at 57 years old.
May the Good Lord rest his soul.
Rest In Peace Wes ✊🏾♥️
I remember watching this game and it was cold, rainy and the field was so slippery that day. I lived in Texas all my life so we would watch the Cotton Bowl even if the Longhorns were not playing, always enjoyed listening to Lindsey Nelson call the game. This was a hard fought game and the weather was why it was 0-0 for nearly 3 quarters, I thought Pitt played kinda dirty at times but SMU prevailed anyway. Marino was throwing too hard on some passes and Dickerson looked like he would break one at anytime. I always thought it was wrong for the NCAA to give SMU the death penalty when many other teams did the same thing.
From Fitchburg Massachusetts. RIP to Todd Becker. He was a sophomore back up linebacker for Pitt who weeks before this game fell to his death at a on campus party. He was obviously drunk and so the story goes he was apparently banned from a certain dorm and when the campus cops showed up he thought he could get out from a window. Unfortunately he underestimated the drop and tragically died from the fall. I even read that a couple people were literally reaching out their hand to help but Todd refused the assistance and it ended in his death :(
Great SMU team- moved to Dallas from Nevada in Oct. '82, was able to see first hand this SMU team. Marino is on this Pitt team- good matchup.
NFL 1st round picks in this game. Dickerson and Dupard with SMU, Marino and Jimbo Covert Pitt.
I remember watching this game. For a 7-3 game I was on the edge of my seat. All of Texas was in a deep freeze that New Years day.
We where hoping for a outside chance that SMU would be picked Number One in final polls.
Was it a strength of schedule issue?
You forgot Fralic
I forgot just how tough James and Dickerson was. As a Tandem, there was no better in the SWC.
The nation
I was at this game with my good friend Bob Sharp. Marino had 5-6 dropped passes that were right on target. Horrible weather, glad to get the SMU win.
I watched in on TV but I believe it was in the 30's with light drizzle that day. This was good weather for the Pony Express.
I was there and it certainly didn't feel like 39 degrees....it was cold man!
I bet it was super cold
Craig James, Lance McIlhenny, and Eric Dickerson were just beasts running that offense. Although, prone to fumbles.
I can watch that style of football all day long .
And payoffs.
@@kurtgreaser988jus like everybody else was
But unlike many other major NCAAF Power programs with bigger enrollments, many more powerful, influential boosters, alumni and frankly, many of these schools have a older, deeper repore and relationship with NCAA, a relatively small Methodist university in Ft. Worth, Texas doesn't stack up, comparatively speaking, to bigger, perennial old SWC 6 opponents like Texas, Texas A@M, and Oklahoma.
Plus, while it's certainly very true historically that SMU wasnt the only NCAAF program using pay outs inducements to recruit, entice 4-5 star blue-chip HS All-Stars to enroll in their programs, SMU was doing it at such an extreme, visible extent under Bobby Collins that it wasnt too difficult or hard for ordinary fans to tell their program was clearly bought and paid for, much less NCAAF investigators.
In the old, pre-NIL days, if you were going to cheat, make sure your cast of boosters or assistants handling the payoffs are small, don't run their mouths about any such program existing or their involvement, period; and for God's sakes, don't make it seem so glaringly obvious you're running an illegal player recruitment process.
The hitting in this game was unreal...you don't see hitting like this at any level today.
You know what you don’t see much at football games anymore (or anywhere else for that matter)? Mass balloon releases.
Great football game reminiscent of the old school defensive games of past eras. On paper I deem Pitt to have been the better of the two teams, albeit only by a thin hair. Dan Marino had to be upset with his receivers for dropping more than a few critical passes he put right on their respective numbers. SMU, however, played great a game and won. The SMU defense was truly formidable and stifled a great Pitt offense. With this victory, I believe SMU should have won the 1982 national championship. At the very least they should have shared a split national championship with Penn State.
This undefeated SMU team should have been National Champions this season instead of one loss Penn State.
The best team money could buy.
SMU should’ve played Georgia, but in those days they had their conference bowl tie-ins, Sugar and Cotton, and couldn’t meet. Most people thought Penn State would’ve beaten SMU, but who knows?
SMU should have been National Champion. Polls got it wrong again, big surprise,
@@roybaker6902 SMU is the true National Champion.
That Penn State team was great. I bet a friend of mine a dollar that Penn State would beat Georgia. I was just 15 so that was pretty much all I could afford.
What a hard hitting game that was...lot of popping going on🔥
Considering the audio technology for the time and it being that loud it certainly was.
Not scoring on that first drive was huge for Pitt. Ten points may have all that was needed to win but SMU’s defense made a great play penetrating to force the fumble. Pitt had trouble in its first loss that season scoring from close versus Notre Dame and led to field goals instead of crucial touchdowns.
I feel bad for that Marino kid. But as good as he is, he'll probably win a few championships at the NFL level.
Zero.
Thank you. My first college game, still have the program. Back before the Cotton bowl got put on steroids.
Been watching a lot of older games lately and they sure didn't protect the ball very good
Pitt should go back to those sweet uniforms
When was the last time you saw a 7-3 game other than this? Always nice to hear Lindsay Nelson announce a game, the voice of college football. Back then, announcers were more nuanced and matter of fact, every play did NOT require a hysterical response.
Just watched this again, I forgot Bill Fratic and Bill Maas of Pitt where 1st round picks, and Russell Carter with SMU was a 1st round pick.
Jimbo Covert #75, and Tim Lewis #26 for Pitt, were also 1st round picks. Chris Doleman was a sophomore backup, and he's in the NFL Hall of Fame. This team was ridiculously loaded with talent.
It was VERY cold that day in Dallas, luckily our tickets were under the overhang of the upper deck so it wasn't too bad.
Incredible coincidence Mike, I attended the Cotton Bowl the next year, and the kickoff temp was almost the same. A brutal weather system occupied the area for what seemed like a month. The city was almost paralyzed I remember- black ice on the road etc. Undefeated Texas had a golden opportunity to win the National Championship that game, as powerhouse no.1 Nebraska was later upset in the Orange Bowl. Georgia didn't have Herschel, and had their usual stud defense, but a mediocre offense, while Texas had a middle of the road offense, and a good defense. Low scoring game- Georgia drove late to win 10-7 I think. Remember seeing Walker in a full length fur coat, when I was entering the stadium.
@@remmymafia3889 Yes what that one too, it was nice weather that day. Georgia won on a muffed punt by Texas late in the 4th and Georgia scored on a bootleg causing us Longhorns to lose a National Championship after Nebraska losing to Miami later that night.
@@floridapmi yes it was clear and windless, but still high 30's. As I said, the weather was brutal leading up to that game.
@@remmymafia3889 I don’t mind the cold as long as the sun is out. The next year was as bad as the SMU game but my brother and I didn’t have cover that one. In the upper deck with all the B.C. fans.
SMU...the best team money can buy :)
They eventually became the first school to get the "death penalty" handed to them by the NCAA, I think in 1988.
Hmm, that sure looked like a touchdown at 4:43, but I'm sure it didn't affect the outcome of the game.
Pitt was playing dirty....lot of high tackles and after the whistle play. That head tackle clothesline on Dickerson would have had me on someones ass.
Would you rather get tackled high r have a career ending knee injury just wondering
Wow the best players money could buy on smurfs and the officials still had to lend a hand with home cooking
Jesse LeBlanc so you saying that head hunting and horse collaring, and targeting, and then cutting knees is the only way to tackle?
No I'm saying some times you do what it takes and yes they had flags on the plays dont be a puss I guess it's to late
Football wasn't always played like powder puffs go watch women's league they have less on and bring the wood
What’s funny I found my old ticket stub for the 73 Sugar Bowl between Alabama and Notre Dame. It was the biggest game of the century at the time. Lol. My tickets cost 7 dollars!!!
I really hated this turf at the Cotton Bowl, any time there was even a hint of inclamate weather the game turned into the Ice Capades. Horrible turf. A lot of Cotten Bowls were ruined by this stuff.
I think I noticed is helmets weren’t popping off like they do nowadays. It’s amazing if you actually strap them on correctly. They stay on.
This was the type of game where you are sore for weeks after
Foge managed to win with Sherrill's players for a couple years then nothing
This was before SMU was sentenced to death.
On February 25th, 1987 to be exact
most of the Cotton Bowl games were cold
we lost but our talent was way better and the conditions favored Pitt for that time of year, cold and wet, that pittsburgh winter weather, i was a big dickerson fan but a huge Pitt fan, i was 20yrs old in 83 first hershel waker in the 82 sugar bowl then dickerson in 83 both times Pitt's defense stepped up.
Thank you!
James would beat Marino again in 85 AFC championship game.
Bill Fralic, Jimbo Covert, and many more
Which pixel is the ball?
Lindsey Nelson's second to last Cotton Bowl call.
Pitt had 2 trips inside the 10 yard line and scored 0! If he didnt shank that 27 yard FG , pitt is running on 3rd and goal and Marino doesn't throw a int?
3 great players in Craig James, Eric Dickerson and Dan Marino and yet only 10 points. Stout defense or great defensive game planning or bad weather clearly.
I mean, McIllhenny clearly had no ability to pitch on the option.
SMU was “The U” before there was “The U.”
Ah yes, Al Winglikowski two personal fouls in the first half
Pitt's receivers were awful that day, so many dropped passes from Dan Marino.
Hard nosed football.
Yo, you got the 91-92 and 93-94 Orange bowl and every one from 86 to present except the 92-93 FSU Nebraska game the year before fsu won 1st championship
Working on NFL games atm, but i'll try to do that one when I have a chance. Likely a couple months though
@@steelbuck6777 good looking! It's on there plus Hal a dozen other fsu games . Including cotton bowl vs A&M which is nowhere on YT.
Nebraska Kansas 1993 is another awesome game nowhere on YT?
Pity the fool that bet the over on this game! 😂
Smu would've been co-national champs with this win, but they couldn't put Arkansas away in the season finale and tied them to finish 10-0-1 and fall to #4 from #2 and 11-0 Penn st jumped them and they instead played #1 Georgia in the sugar bowl. But it would've been Georgia SMU if they didn't choke the Arkansas game away
Georgia would have come to the Cotton Bowl.
SMU's schedule was not that tough. Not blowing out Pittsburgh is what did them in.
I don't know if SMU choked away the Arkansas game, but yeah, they clearly did not play up to their standards... I think SMU made the right call in going for one point conversion to tie the game. What people forget is that extra point to tie was, if memory serves me, with around 5 or 6 minutes left in the game, so it was not like they had the decision on last play of the game. Their main goal was to get to Cotton Bowl and a tie gets them in.. but what people forget is that SMU made a quick defensive stand and had the ball in plenty of time to operate a 2 minute drill to win the game with a FG.. but the 2 minute drill was terribly managed by Coach Collins and poorly executed by players too... the drive stalled, and I believe SMU missed a 50 something yard FG to win the game, or maybe they stalled out of FG range, I honestly don't remember.
All wrong. SMU as SWC Champs went to the Cotton Bowl. Georgia as SEC Champs went to the Sugar Bowl. 1 loss Penn St beat 1 loss Pitt in last game. Since Ga. was #1, Penn St. went to play them and SMU got stuck with 2 loss Pitt. Ponies needed a great showing to have a chance. The real team that was robbed was Nebraska. Got hosed on 2 calls at Penn St for their only loss and won OB to finish #3 @ 12-1.
Penn State wasn't 11-0, they were 10-1 with a lopsided loss.
Pitt was such a disappointment. Letting go of Jackie Sherrill a huge mistake. The program has never recovered
I wouldn’t say Pitt let go of Sherrill. He was offered a massive contract by Texas A&M for the day’s standards and Pitt couldn’t match it. But your point stands, we were never the same after he left. Too bad they didn’t hire Jimmy Johnson, who was a defensive coordinator under Sherrill at Pitt.
An 8-team playoff would've been epic.
#1 Georgia (11-0) v #8 Texas (9-2)
#4 SMU (10-0-1) v #5 UCLA (9-1-1)
#2 Penn State (10-1) v #7 Clemson (9-1-1)
#3 Nebraska (11-1) v #6 Pitt (9-2)
Extremely disappointing season for Pitt.
Southern Dickerson University
Marino tanking to get picked by a good team.
That's the dumbest thing I've heard as marino's numbers were as good as any ones the reason he wasn't picked earlier is some folks thought he had a drug issue
I didn't see anyone looking for Tom Brady in any round so what does that say about NFL GM's not a lot when ur 199 overall
@@jesseleblanc1199 Marino had more INT's than TD's in 1982. The reason he was still thought of highly was because of his previous season. The drug issues did add to it but many felt he wasn't as good as people thought.
When you have an arm like his you will throw where others wouldn't ever think about Bradshaw and Favre had a few pics to not a problem
Did you watch? I saw dropped pass after pass by Pitt's receivers.
Fazio killed Pitt
Too many lose balls by the Ponys on the opening drive.
Fix your TV dude
I did not record this or many others. I downloaded them.
I remember when you could watch bowl games for free now you got to carry ESPN and the same for NFL games it's b******* and get off my lawn!
SMU misses paying kids
You don't think Pitt and every one else was paying too. Lol
@@bleeding4721 Pitt never paid anyone. We’ve always done things the right way quite bashing my Alma Mater.
@@johnwaffleh2p70 How did you graduate? It's quit not "quite" you dumb ass. I was at the game and your team got smoked.
Was
SWC football was soooo bad.
The game seems so much physical than today's game..