It might seem counterintuitive, but I think getting dating advice from two guys who have been married for 10+ years is not going to be that helpful. It’s like when your parents tell you to hand your resume to the manager in person
yeah i think you're right. it's not valueless or anything, i think they have a solid idea about healthy dynamics. but i think their advice is only really best for people who are, say, 6-12 months into their relationship, where they're starting to cross the boundary that "long term" could be an accurate descriptor.
Dan's anti coffee date, pro movie take is wild. Coffee date = low commitment so if the vibes are off its easy to just end it there, but if its good you can talk for hours there or easily go and get dinner or do something else together. Movie date = 2-3 hour commitment where you're not even supposed to talk to each other. I guess if you're planning on getting dinner after it gives you something to talk about but thats a lot of time to commit for a first date.
@@mattoleary811 100% correct. Movie dates are awful for first dates. Low commitment, easy ejection is the move. Coffee, bars if you're into that, a walk in the park, whatever.
we all know someone like this in real life. We like him because it brings out awesome stories we never would have heard... but when you are on the spot it can be a bit much sometimes lol love Dan btw, I would be like a half the week chillin kind of friend with him. every day is too much being put on the spot
coffee date is goated because if it goes well it can be extended and if it doesnt go well you can bail after like, 15 mins. Most other first dates you're locked in for at least an hour
Also plenty of time to talk. Really you're forced to talk with each other. With a movie date there's not an incentive to talk with one another and you're just sitting there for 1-2 hrs in silence
male bonding is walking a tightrope of poking fun without stabbing, pointing towards but not at, laughing with and not laughing at. people confuse it for bullying, but its a beautiful intricate dance among brothers and takes genuine empathy and undestanding
@@AtomicSluggand in feeling all of this out, you get to know someone very, very well. This is preaching to the choir, but nurture your friendships guys.
I bet that the calculus is different from Dan/NL's era. Prospective partners are certainly expanded compared to pre-dating app, and so I'd imagine that a longer commitment first date gives plenty of time to check the vibes.
@@clankclankimatankYeah but you're sitting in silence not talking to each other for most of it. How are you supposed to accurately sus out the vibes without talking?
@@clankclankimatankyou've got your reasoning reversed though: with a larger dating pool commitment/investment is seen as a rarer/more valuable trait; people went on more dates in the past instead of being choosy about their prospective partners. After all, there's only so many fellows in the phonebook!
Dude this whole video was art, it was actually heartwarming just listening some dudes talk about first love’s way back when and having something to relate to. Also the ending song was perfect. Thank you librarian!!
FOR REAL. Saying a movie date is good for a first date because "if the date sucks at least you got to watch a movie" is setting yourself up for failure. More often than not in a movie first date, it's gonna suck because you're not engaging with the other person during an event SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO GET TO KNOW THE OTHER PERSON.
A movie date only really makes sense if you are going out with someone you've had some prior irl interactions with. I've done a movie as a first date but it was with a girl I worked with and talked to regularly. I'd never suggest it as a first date if you are meeting someone off an app or through a friend or something.
movie date is only a good first date if you go from friends to dating. my first girlfriend and i had our first real date at the movies after being friends for months and it was great.
"you just died to wind. wouldn't be me, even in real life i dont think" "well i mean, there's a lot of wind coming off the Voyager, i promise you that" LMFAOO
''I'm not that famous for normal people and most of the people i went to school with are normal because they were born in 1988 instead of like 1997'' Okay, ow
I imagine people were way less annoying growing up without internet tbf. Or at least they didnt have to hear random dumb takes from a bunch of ppl on facebook.
I find the first love can turn into a harmless scar, it's that first serious relationship that turns into an aching wound. It's almost a year since my breakup with her, we lived together, but boy, does it take the wind out of your sails.
One time I was going on a date and right when I pulled up to her place I see she sent me a text that she couldn't make it bc she was out of town and got stuck in traffic on the way back. I look up to see her taking the trash out of her house, where she sees me and immediately goes back inside. Most awkward experience of my life.
This video is so comforting to me. Only recently started watching NL through the Librarian and my first gf broke up with me in September which I still haven’t gotten over so them talking about it makes me feel a bit like I’m sharing the pain
The most insane takes. Coffee dates are a perfectly fine first date. Movie dates are only good if you've been with someone for a bit and it's a movie you're both interested in.
it’s kind of shocking because i never really considered that he might have had a serious relationship before kate since they got married relatively young. hearing him talk about it (and having been in a similar, toxic relationship) it’s really wild to think about what could have been.
They both play Elden Ring like it's a suffercore game. Sisyphus over here only pressing R1 with a +0 weapon wearing 1 piece of armor. Wonder when they'll remember weapon arts are a thing
You're watching the wrong stream if you think they're going to be doing anything other than hitting the boss with sticks till it dies. They're og old souls heads
I accidentally lowered the speed to 0.4x during the credits song but I didnt notice because I had the video on the background and I thought it was either NL doing a bit or Librarian doing a bit
I'm not on apps anymore, and I'm transfemme so my situation is kinda unique, but most of the time the coffee date was basically just a chance to get the dude's vibe in a public space where I can leave easily if the vibe is off. It was also a test to see if they were too much of a manchild to be seen in public with a trans person, but I don't think that's that relevant here lmao
I met my wife on a coffee date lol.. it transitions to drinks and snacks at a bar bc it went well. I highly recommend coffee dates, ice cream dates, etc... After about a dozen or so dates with different people, I realized going out to interesting places/activities, restaurants, or bars for cocktails was a pretty expensive venture to maintain. Literally my first date in the city was like 80 bucks for 2 cocktails each and I never saw her again. If you can hold a convo, simple inexpensive dates like coffee dates are great and if the date is going well the first hour or so, sure.. go to a different place. Only place a movie date works is when you are like 16 going out with someone from school.
Holy shit, when NL sent a message to his ex instead of his boy about the dinner with her parents bring a snooze-fest I was dying... THEN when he actually pulled it off by saying it was just him making a silly joke... I was SENT brother
The first 5 mins is just a very boomer take from both of them lmao. I'm trying to talk and get to know someone not sit through a 2 1/2 movie quietly with a stranger (could be just me). Last time I went on a 'coffee date' it turned into 2 hrs of talking then I took her to dinner and we dated for 4 months, they've both been married for ages so they get a pass for being out of the loop imo.
1:15 probably ill-advised to admit on the internet, but THIS IS SO ME! I'm not the kind of person built for dating apps, I'd rather touch grass and find a person running in the fields as well.
coffee dates are perfectly fine imo. If you've got a good personality and feel confident about yourself, you could go on a first date to get your groceries. it literally does not matter. also, you don't wanna spend over $20 on a first date. I mean, I don't.
I’m trying very hard not to express my insane takes in the Librarian comments anymore so I won’t go too far here, but my lord does it feel like we are approaching the event horizon of a truly fucked-up dating market. Online dating is a horrible idea for most people and the communities we relied on for centuries to find partners (the church, local clubs) are collapsing on a rapid basis. Very spooky stuff, gamers.
Loss of third places has been dire for socialization of all types. Also soapboxing here to say dating apps are designed to make money, not get you into meaningful relationships. I used them off and on from like 2016-2022 and they are husks of what they were even over that time. I can't imagine they've gotten much better
I've met my last three partners irl rather than on apps. I think apps are the worst way to go in terms of modern dating imo. Very superficial and most matches go nowhere. I think it is a lot easier dazzling someone in person. :) Also makes for a good story. Be confident! Walk up to that cute girl/guy/nb and talk!!! Get a hobby, go places! Dating apps are hell and they sever real human connections with superficiality and judgement.
If NL was single I could see something similar happening to Kripp and Rania. Meeting an educated women (e.g. published academic) who watches his content.
Dan converses like he's trying to get the answer to all your habbo hotel security questions
Its because big brother never left him
this comment is wonderful
@@darinpringle5611maybe he was the big brother the whole time
Traitorous behavior
+2
"are you familiar with dunkirk"
"uhh its a beach thing right"
Real “OJ the football player” energy
jeff epstein the new york financier?
Sheesh +2 on that one buddy
@@TheLibraryofLetourneauDLguiga the Chicago financier?
Do we know he doesn't own an island?
I love that Dan just talks like they’re at a bar catching up on life, not live streaming for 10k people to listen to NL’s backstory
We’re all just eavesdropping on their bar convo lol
yea sometimes it feel like im not supposed to hear these.
"felt like my heart was grabbed by a lich" is crazy that's actually exactly what it feels like
So real I had a semi-out of body experience after he said it.
It might seem counterintuitive, but I think getting dating advice from two guys who have been married for 10+ years is not going to be that helpful. It’s like when your parents tell you to hand your resume to the manager in person
but have you considered a firm handshake
I mean, taking pretty much any life advice from streamers (although there's some good advice sometimes) isn't really productive
yeah i think you're right. it's not valueless or anything, i think they have a solid idea about healthy dynamics. but i think their advice is only really best for people who are, say, 6-12 months into their relationship, where they're starting to cross the boundary that "long term" could be an accurate descriptor.
Dan's anti coffee date, pro movie take is wild.
Coffee date = low commitment so if the vibes are off its easy to just end it there, but if its good you can talk for hours there or easily go and get dinner or do something else together.
Movie date = 2-3 hour commitment where you're not even supposed to talk to each other. I guess if you're planning on getting dinner after it gives you something to talk about but thats a lot of time to commit for a first date.
@@mattoleary811 100% correct. Movie dates are awful for first dates. Low commitment, easy ejection is the move. Coffee, bars if you're into that, a walk in the park, whatever.
“it’s dlguiga” when they were saying the ex-gf was still in chat SENT ME
We don’t have any evidence that it’s not dlguiga
Kim Jong Un in chat typing bisexual jar jar binks stories tho? Plausable
Your ex-gf having a parasocial relationship with you is kinda crazy
@@TheMightySpurdo many such cases
I just learned a week ago that Dan won Big Brother and is considered the Goat of it, after watching him in NL content and its fucking with my head
Im the inverse, I knew that Dan was the big brother GOAT, but I just didnt even realise that Dan was Dan Gheesling until NL brought it up here
He's the goat because every conversation with him is 20 questions over and over
Ryan talking about his game tactics like he’s a dart blower in Blight town lmao
I love how Dan can coerce out stories from NL that I haven't heard before
we all know someone like this in real life. We like him because it brings out awesome stories we never would have heard... but when you are on the spot it can be a bit much sometimes lol
love Dan btw, I would be like a half the week chillin kind of friend with him. every day is too much being put on the spot
coffee date is goated because if it goes well it can be extended and if it doesnt go well you can bail after like, 15 mins. Most other first dates you're locked in for at least an hour
Also plenty of time to talk. Really you're forced to talk with each other. With a movie date there's not an incentive to talk with one another and you're just sitting there for 1-2 hrs in silence
ngl seeing this lined up with the incest video in the recent tab had me worried for a sec
NL: Male bonding is making fun of you and belittling our relationship.
Also NL: Let's play video games and talk about our emotional tapestry brother.
both are real guy friendships
male bonding is walking a tightrope of poking fun without stabbing, pointing towards but not at, laughing with and not laughing at.
people confuse it for bullying, but its a beautiful intricate dance among brothers and takes genuine empathy and undestanding
it takes trust to be able to belittle your friends. to say "youre a piece of shit" and know that they truly mean "i love you"
@@AtomicSlugg I really love this comment ❤
@@AtomicSluggand in feeling all of this out, you get to know someone very, very well. This is preaching to the choir, but nurture your friendships guys.
Coffee first date was how I met my current gf. Get it twisted it can work.
One of the shittier takes I've heard from Dan. 0 justification for a random ass hot take.
My fiancé and I talked online after meeting through a coworker and our first date was a coffee date.
Yea it was unfounded, it lowkey sounded like a experience he had 😹
I met my gf of 5 years on Tinder, get it twisted, that can work too
@@kornelparoczai1763 true, on of my best friends met his wife on Tinder
the chat msg at 6:26 saying LISAN PULL BADDIE had me cackling lmao
"The apps are too quick of an assessment" they proceed to agree on 7 minutes of talking during a movie date
i was tryna sleep to this video and when egg said he TEXTED HIS GF INSTEAD i sprung up 😭😭😭
I love the centerfold outro so much I listen to it all the way through every time
Movie as a first date is so bad, that's like a 5th date or later sort of thing.
I bet that the calculus is different from Dan/NL's era. Prospective partners are certainly expanded compared to pre-dating app, and so I'd imagine that a longer commitment first date gives plenty of time to check the vibes.
@@clankclankimatankYeah but you're sitting in silence not talking to each other for most of it. How are you supposed to accurately sus out the vibes without talking?
@@clankclankimatankyou've got your reasoning reversed though: with a larger dating pool commitment/investment is seen as a rarer/more valuable trait; people went on more dates in the past instead of being choosy about their prospective partners. After all, there's only so many fellows in the phonebook!
"I can't imagine what dating as a young person feels like"
yeah me neither Aware 💥 🔫
REAL
Dude this whole video was art, it was actually heartwarming just listening some dudes talk about first love’s way back when and having something to relate to. Also the ending song was perfect. Thank you librarian!!
Coffee date is fine, movie dates suck.
FOR REAL. Saying a movie date is good for a first date because "if the date sucks at least you got to watch a movie" is setting yourself up for failure. More often than not in a movie first date, it's gonna suck because you're not engaging with the other person during an event SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO GET TO KNOW THE OTHER PERSON.
A movie date only really makes sense if you are going out with someone you've had some prior irl interactions with. I've done a movie as a first date but it was with a girl I worked with and talked to regularly. I'd never suggest it as a first date if you are meeting someone off an app or through a friend or something.
movie date is only a good first date if you go from friends to dating. my first girlfriend and i had our first real date at the movies after being friends for months and it was great.
"you just died to wind. wouldn't be me, even in real life i dont think"
"well i mean, there's a lot of wind coming off the Voyager, i promise you that"
LMFAOO
16:57
dan is stuck on interviewer mode
''I'm not that famous for normal people and most of the people i went to school with are normal because they were born in 1988 instead of like 1997''
Okay, ow
What'd he say fuck me for???😢
I finally got sniped on that one. I feel like he always goes a few years higher or lower and I feel like neo dodging. He got my ass this time.
I imagine people were way less annoying growing up without internet tbf. Or at least they didnt have to hear random dumb takes from a bunch of ppl on facebook.
1997 is literally the year I was born
The amount of CAUGHTs after that was so damn funny
This gives off such a melancholy feel the perfect recollection for a broken heart. So long my love.
First love is always hard
I find the first love can turn into a harmless scar, it's that first serious relationship that turns into an aching wound. It's almost a year since my breakup with her, we lived together, but boy, does it take the wind out of your sails.
One time I was going on a date and right when I pulled up to her place I see she sent me a text that she couldn't make it bc she was out of town and got stuck in traffic on the way back. I look up to see her taking the trash out of her house, where she sees me and immediately goes back inside. Most awkward experience of my life.
it started with a 10 month ghost im goign insane i love this man
Dan and NL suggesting a first date at a movie theater is the most insane take I have ever seen so many -2
Dan is truly a master social engineer, NL never talks about stuff like this unless prompted by Dan.
Dan's greatest gift to us (respectfully)
"Maybe we won't have a future but i saw Dune 2"
This video is so comforting to me. Only recently started watching NL through the Librarian and my first gf broke up with me in September which I still haven’t gotten over so them talking about it makes me feel a bit like I’m sharing the pain
Bruh dan really loaded up the hollow point rounds at the end of the video
The most insane takes. Coffee dates are a perfectly fine first date. Movie dates are only good if you've been with someone for a bit and it's a movie you're both interested in.
I find it hilarious that NL became so awkward and uncomfortable talking about his ex.
I can’t really blame him, lol. All I’m gonna say is he’s extremely lucky to have met K8 when he did, and he knows it
Yeah it's insane. Just pure luck.
Some wounds never fully heal🥲
it’s kind of shocking because i never really considered that he might have had a serious relationship before kate since they got married relatively young. hearing him talk about it (and having been in a similar, toxic relationship) it’s really wild to think about what could have been.
They both play Elden Ring like it's a suffercore game. Sisyphus over here only pressing R1 with a +0 weapon wearing 1 piece of armor. Wonder when they'll remember weapon arts are a thing
Lmao he spent the entire first half of his original playthrough not using them because they made it “too easy” 😂 it was fun
You're watching the wrong stream if you think they're going to be doing anything other than hitting the boss with sticks till it dies. They're og old souls heads
Weapon arts are resin
OP doesn't grasp the concept of resin.
Using the Blue bar under any circumstances is akin to leveling dex in ds1.
holy fuck that part with the texting
i cannot
I have watched 30 hours of NL content over the past 3 days, i have to catch a stream
I accidentally lowered the speed to 0.4x during the credits song but I didnt notice because I had the video on the background and I thought it was either NL doing a bit or Librarian doing a bit
NL pulled a mordecai
Remind me what happened there it's been forever since I've seen regular show
The nl & dan banter videos are actually gold
I love the synergy of NL having a frank conversation with Dan while Kate shitposts in chat
K1 implies the existence of K2-K7
It's a beach thing you wouldn't understand
Apollo x NL duet goes hard
"out of respect for kate"
I'm not on apps anymore, and I'm transfemme so my situation is kinda unique, but most of the time the coffee date was basically just a chance to get the dude's vibe in a public space where I can leave easily if the vibe is off. It was also a test to see if they were too much of a manchild to be seen in public with a trans person, but I don't think that's that relevant here lmao
Smart!
The friendzone thing is a psyop. The longest healthiest relationships I’ve been in started as friendships
Good for you, but not everyone reciprocates romantic feelings nor should they have to
NL uncomfortable but keep talking was so funny to see, while Dan was frying the topic. KEKW And holy, this outro was incredible.
Dan was really -2 farming with this one
No wonder this dude is bald, he went through the most anxious friendzone...
NL talking about that girl peeling out and ghosting him and Dan just silently laughing was sadly hilarious
I love the Centerfold outro, but this time I was hoping the conversation went on a little longer
I met my wife on a coffee date lol.. it transitions to drinks and snacks at a bar bc it went well. I highly recommend coffee dates, ice cream dates, etc... After about a dozen or so dates with different people, I realized going out to interesting places/activities, restaurants, or bars for cocktails was a pretty expensive venture to maintain. Literally my first date in the city was like 80 bucks for 2 cocktails each and I never saw her again. If you can hold a convo, simple inexpensive dates like coffee dates are great and if the date is going well the first hour or so, sure.. go to a different place. Only place a movie date works is when you are like 16 going out with someone from school.
lol great choice for outro song
NL with dan is so introvert hanging out with extrovert energy
These fuckin thumbnails go so hard 😂
Holy shit, when NL sent a message to his ex instead of his boy about the dinner with her parents bring a snooze-fest I was dying... THEN when he actually pulled it off by saying it was just him making a silly joke... I was SENT brother
I'm telling you this man had at least a little cry after the stream ended.
Lmfao. 1st movie dates over 1st coffee date is a terrible take
I've literally gotten most of my girlfriends with coffee dates being the first dates. I don't want to hear it from mr. beach battle.
14:27 WAIT DAN NL FRIEND IS THE SAME DAN THAT WON BIG BROTHER SEASON 10?!
10:22 i had this exact same experience i had buried this deep within my soul until NL reminded me
This has further solidified my parasocial bond with the egg man. Thank you for the content Mr. Librarian.
Blown away by them treating going from friends to dating as a weird thing, that's me with everyone I've dated lmfao
You don't know the friendzone meme?
12:56 "I always did fairly well in that department ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)" ~Dan
I thought the thumbnail said "Girlfriend theft" for some reason, and now I wish it did
What is Dan talking about lmao, there's so many couples I know who met at coffee dates or similar. Bro has the weirdest opinions is he even real.
90% of the time, he is just making conversation
Dan speak
The first 5 mins is just a very boomer take from both of them lmao. I'm trying to talk and get to know someone not sit through a 2 1/2 movie quietly with a stranger (could be just me). Last time I went on a 'coffee date' it turned into 2 hrs of talking then I took her to dinner and we dated for 4 months, they've both been married for ages so they get a pass for being out of the loop imo.
Bro has been married since 1967. Cut him some slack
K1????
LMAO
Thank god he will never get to the K9 furry phase of his life. He is truly blessed
@@wieran35000vr that is cursed and funny af
what does Dan think 'out of respect for X' means?
he thinks it means “with respect to X” lol
A 4 minute outtro holy crap
Dunkirk was a beach thing I guess
12:26 complete opposite for me. Everyone else was a kid, i was the dumbass and asshole.
So this is how the dating streams and the Discord calls all started...
1:15 probably ill-advised to admit on the internet, but THIS IS SO ME! I'm not the kind of person built for dating apps, I'd rather touch grass and find a person running in the fields as well.
1:52 Oh, to be a poison swamp.
10:57 My weird ass will never recover (I was born in 1997)
i really thought dan's character was naked at 0:18 bro that does not look like a loincloth
Apollo is such a pleasant singer.
No coffee but a movie on the first date? Wild take. You could do coffee on first and movie on second imo.
enelle HATED his ex
Listening to these two discuss their dating horror stories makes me feel a lil better about mine fr
Coffee date opinion pretty common. Not the movie one but he kinda has a point.
No one who still uses the word 'friendzone' unironically has a point lmao
Apollo nails this song
apollo kinda ate that outro
How did I just realize Dan is from Big Brother/Traitors, my mind is blown
If she took 10 months to say sure I wanna date maybe she thinks you're still dating
coffee dates are perfectly fine imo. If you've got a good personality and feel confident about yourself, you could go on a first date to get your groceries. it literally does not matter. also, you don't wanna spend over $20 on a first date. I mean, I don't.
NL says "like" a lot
12:22 What? It's always been the complete opposite for me.
I’m trying very hard not to express my insane takes in the Librarian comments anymore so I won’t go too far here, but my lord does it feel like we are approaching the event horizon of a truly fucked-up dating market. Online dating is a horrible idea for most people and the communities we relied on for centuries to find partners (the church, local clubs) are collapsing on a rapid basis. Very spooky stuff, gamers.
Loss of third places has been dire for socialization of all types.
Also soapboxing here to say dating apps are designed to make money, not get you into meaningful relationships. I used them off and on from like 2016-2022 and they are husks of what they were even over that time. I can't imagine they've gotten much better
I've met my last three partners irl rather than on apps. I think apps are the worst way to go in terms of modern dating imo. Very superficial and most matches go nowhere. I think it is a lot easier dazzling someone in person. :) Also makes for a good story. Be confident! Walk up to that cute girl/guy/nb and talk!!! Get a hobby, go places! Dating apps are hell and they sever real human connections with superficiality and judgement.
where irl have you meet them?
Can i get a link to NL singing with Apollo at the end? ^^
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@@TheLibraryofLetourneau Thank you very much!
what's the thumbnail
NL was used SO hard by this girl. She was just lonely.
he got cooked
k1 lmfaoo librarian
If NL was single I could see something similar happening to Kripp and Rania. Meeting an educated women (e.g. published academic) who watches his content.
Dan is so interrogative
is dan okay
I don't think he knows how to use "out of respect for ... " XD