Twitch Streamer Slammed For Twitch Tweet
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2022
- Influenced by Dexerto - Twitch streamer TheDanDangler has found herself in some hot water following receiving a DMCA ban from Twitch. After the ruling came down, and her stream was taken offline, she took to Twitter to share her thoughts on what just happened and leaned into Twitch for a lack of sick pay, and paid time off. What do we think here?
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Twitch simply gives you a platform to make content on, they don’t employ you, you don’t get PTO. You can’t just break copyright laws because you wanted to stream for a living.
Technically if you are a partner they do employ you. You have a contract with them that states your working hours and how much you get paid. But also don’t be lazy and watch a show and then complain you got striked
@@lik7953 yes agreed if your sick maybe pay it with the money you have she can obviously make it back
Having a DMCA ban is much better than getting sued
@@Adian-Bodhi *sued
@@lik7953 A partnership is not an employment. By partnering with someone or something, in this case a company called Twitch, you as the individual benefit from things that your partner has to offer, and they benefit from you vice versa.
That's the one downside to working your own hours, no sick pay
Another downside: being a shitty boss.
they dont work their own hours
@@joey4608 then what are you implying? Twitch robots come to her house and pin her to her streaming setup and force her to stream?
She fucking sits at a desk and pays games and watches TH-cam videos for money. That's called a privilege...
@@crubrutockcsgo no they put her in a contract which forces her to stream even if she was sick,if she didnt stream she would be in violation of a contract
Being a streamer is the equivalent of being an entrepreneur.
Literally all benefits and insurance are on you. Cause guess what? That’s what is means to be self employed
I think if they give you a contract, i think things should change. A.k.a people like toast.
So when someone signs a contract with twitch and streams there every single day and is not allowed to stream on other platforms And gets paid by twitch. Twitch isn’t their employer? I mean cmon sounds like an employer to me. Just a wayyy easier job than most that’s all
Again I see this and again it is wrong. For low level streamer they are self employed. But higher level streamers have signed contracts with twitch and are 100% employed by twitch. They have to sign non-competes and everything.
Independent contractors not entrepreneurs. But same situation, you're responsible for your bills and they don't withhold from your check.
@@Jordan-qj3zz no that’s a business to business contract. It’s like if the Pokémon corporation were to go into contract with Walmart and sign saying yeah I’ll only sell my products with you guys but you’ll pay me more for it. (Which some companies do, you’ll see “only at Walmart” stickers, that’s exactly what’s happening)
She’s a streamer
You don’t get benefits like a teacher or any other job
Imagine I criminal said I steal because I need to do something for living and police let him go
@@liamrising5024 there's a massive difference
@@liamrising5024 the criminal disrupts other peoples lives and cause harm. Wtf does a streamer do
@@kolhouwartontang8091 Copyright...
@@kolhouwartontang8091 Copyright is a serious issue and may cause problem for twitch. She deserved it
Bro, you literally have a dream job of being able to do whatever you want and still making 10x the money of a normal person, and you're upset you don't have sick pay?
You know they don't make that much right?
@@g_re_gy XQC was the highest earning twitch streamer in 2021. There was a group of hackers who managed to find every streamer’s career information including their earnings.
@@g_re_gy she literally makes over 10 k a month just for looking hot and reacting to videos she dosent even own, how much more of a dream job could you want
@@bigounce8549 I'm sure she makes much more than that though other avenues
@@g_re_gy Who’s they? Are you talking about her in particular?
“Oh my god, how could they punish me for doing something wrong when I knew better!”
Piracy isn’t wrong. Pirate software, books, tv shows. If you like them after using them, buy it.
streaming it to however many thousands of people and monetizing that is much different than piracy. piracy is for personal, PRIVATE use. this is blatant rebroadcasting
@@interestingman7458 bro there are laws against it for a reason lmao. And how many people do you actually think pay them back afterward? I'd be willing to guess not a lot.
@@shortranga9623 I do not care
@@interestingman7458 it is though
It's like being self employed. Why should you get sick pay?
I believe that she is getting mad for what she did wrong and blaming it on someone else
She’s having a shitty time so it’s pretty COPIUM
Watched videos and plays games for a living. Some people with super hard working or even normal career paths don’t even get paid time off or sick pay. Just insane
but there’s also the other part of being a public figure, and other people have watched that show on twitch before, and a million other points in the argument. I would be upset if my income was suddenly cut off though - which i think is the main point she should’ve made.
But yeah I think it’s safe to say her career is a lot less effort intensive than most
@@iiballisticpanda Bro fucking tell me about it. It pisses me off how twitch streamers think they have the hardest jobs in the world when we have literal doctors, electricians, plumbers, people who clean up the poop in the system, basically a lot more harder jobs. They should be grateful they don't have to struggle working a hard job when they just sit there and playing videos game and watch videos and make more than a labor intensive job.
@@iiballisticpanda Then get another job lmao she gets 10k a month for doing shit and shes mad at not getting sick pay?? fuck no i wouldnt be mad
@@iiballisticpanda She’s violating copyright laws lmao, she should be grateful she isn’t permanently banned. The production team of FiF could bankrupt her for a lifetime if they wanted too, twitch saved her. Also, keeping a camera on while having a show run in the background isn’t quality content, it’s just disguised piracy.
The fact that she’s complaining when she is 100% in the wrong shows that she deserved what was coming to her, I hope she gets sued for copyright infringement ngl.
@@iiballisticpanda yea sure, I agree. Your income stops coming in for a month, that fucking sucks ass. But you gotta remember, when she's making 10k a month, she's not exactly gonna starve. And I'm sure she has other sources of income.
DMCA bans should be looked at case by case because it depends if the person streamed multiple episodes or was just looking at highlights. It also depends if they actually said anything during it or paused it to give commentary or if they just slept through the entire thing
I really like how you specified "slept through the entire thing" was it because of Toast? 😂😂
It doesnt matter how many episodes you watch it's still copyright infringement, so a DMCA ban is definitely valid
No copyright laws don't care you have to get permission highlights are different and yes pausing adds something but twitch is cracking down on the "TV" meta.
@@maxdooley2780 mostly true, but no pauses but with GOOD reactions is still transformative for fair use just most streamers dont actually react enough for fair use
@@taylorlan3377 Yes, but to be transformative that would require some actual effort on the streamers end. But we all know damn well the reason they do this is because it literally requires no effort. That’s why you see streamers like, Jerma for example, thrive because they put genuine effort into the content for their audience. This bitch watches tv shows and complains when DMCA actually does something, lmao.
You make your own schedule, you stream what you want, when you want, for whenever you want. You aren't an employee of twitch, you are your own boss, and it's your boss that pays your sick days
Twitch is not your employer, they simply give you a platform to create your own business. To make that business successful you have to put in a lot of hours.
Ah yes twitch a very popular insurance company
You were already blessed to be able to make a living on Twitch the audacity to steal somebody else's work for your own profit disgusting
She thinks that writing: "i am crying in a bowl" will get her simpathy from anyone important.
I just wanna tell her, honey respect the rules, and if you break them, be mature enough to respect the consequences.
i mean she should think about people who have jobs that aren’t streaming. most people also go to work regardless if they’re sick or not. she acts likes it’s so hard for her when others have it worse
She’s literally doing what people do when they stay home from work sick just sit around staring at a screen lol🤣
@@BitterJoyXx It is rigth in this situation she gets 10k a month and complains about being banned because of watching a tv show on twitch others have it worse most definetly
@@SoapCkat This is probably the only except that saying should be used, but it shouldn't be used for other situations
@@BitterJoyXx she compare herself with others, now we compare her with others, fair.
Unless she didnt compare herself with other and we start comparing her, thats when its wrong
@@BitterJoyXx nah it's not
Twitch really needs to work on their copyright system like TH-cam
When you're own boss you get none of it.
Being a twitch streamer isn’t a twitch employee, if your big then you are a twitch partner but your not an employee. Twitch don’t owe them anything
Oh wow, I stream on twitch, with my own time, whenever I want, so the platform I stream on should pay me for whenever I don’t want to stream! Btw, I have a vet bill…
Again, wrong. She has a signed contract with twitch. She had a set number of hours she has to stream or she will be in violation of her contract and won’t get paid. People on Twitch at higher levels have contracts.
She can’t just “stream whenever she wants.” There are set hours.
@@CM-ky5go yes, but she gets to decide when she does those hours. A contract is a contract, if she fulfils certain criteria then she’ll get paid extra. She still gets paid from the subs and donations, but her job is one of the most free jobs, you can’t complain about sick days when you could do a sick day stream. Her freedom allows her to make money out of almost anything, at anytime, so she shouldn’t have paid sick days because of that freedom. Yes, there are exceptions, and it should be changed, but there’s a difference between a sick day where you can’t get to work on a set time on a set day, and a sick day where you just stream whenever you want. There’s nothing stopping her from streaming less, or more.
@@CM-ky5go but so what? she is basically saying i’m too sick to do my job so i’m going to get someone else to do it for me ( whoever makes forged in fire) and then not pay them.
Forged in fire 🔥
I think that people should watch out for DMCA and make sure to abide by a platform's guidelines.
Twitch to her:
I missed the part where that's my problem.
If twitch is going to partner someone or use them to promote their platform there's need to be employment benefits at that point.
Twitch needs to switch the DMCA rules and provide benefits for all streamers.
spoken exactly like a teacher about a bullying dilemma 😤
Companies use freelance work as an excuse to not provide basic worker rights.
you mean she had to just sit and do minimum labour for a stream when she was a lil sick? 😨😨😨
poor baby 😰😰😰
Just got off sick leave for 10 days with no pay, if my job was sitting at home I wouldn’t have taken time off this is sickening
Damn, Twitter is right for once.
Well first she is basicly self employed Twitch just offers the platform. So no sick pay duh
Second..did she really get mad for breaking rules and getting punished for it?💀 Some Twitch streamers are really delusional and think nothing will happen if they watch full or even multiple episodes of a TV show on Twitch
she needs PTO from watching her netflix? what she needs is a reality check
Twitch is right
The entitlement is crazy lmaoooo
She got exactly what she knew she was gonna get. Along with all these other channels watching tv on live.
You know how risky it is, just dont do it
We live in a modern society, sick days should be standard for everyone.
It sounds like she doesn’t even know what job searching is, because she did no research on her job.
The happy Gilmore clip at the end though
Twitter gets pissed no matter what u say 💀
One thing I don’t understand is getting sick pay when your job is working from home.
Small twitch streamer tweets on twitter: happy
The people of twitter: and i took that personaly
"twitch streamer getting ripped apart on Twitter" but we're not gonna show you that part
She should get a 9 to 5 to pay her bills then
The entitlement that twitch streamers have just pisses me off.
That’s not the job for her then
I love people like this who will break the law and when they get in trouble they make up stupid excuses that don’t make sense
I think that regardless of whether or not you're an entrepreneur or an employee, there should be SOME kind of institution to take care of those needs. Doesn't even have to be the government, it could simply be streamers coming together to have a fund for that.
I see it as akin to buskers and their revenue streams in NYC. Some of those guys take home $200 a night playing drums. Problem is that when they get sick, there's no system in place to ensure they don't end up homeless if they're not out there every night.
Yes it’s called “getting a job”.
Streamers lucky they ain't getting straight up sued
My advice. *never touch Twitter*
does she put no money away for emergencies like what is she even thinking 🤦♂️
Did no one tell her what "self employed" means? 😂
Omg no sick leave pay after breaking dmca laws? Thats crazy and cruel...
I don't think they understand what being an independent contractor is.
What's next? Overtime pay?
Imo them continuing to stream react stuff proves more and more that the copyright laws are stupid
Holy shit! Imagine getting sick and missing work so you get paid less!! Wow wow, wow, I am greatly offended!
That’s how literally any self owned business runs.. u don’t get sick pay
Twitter are simps sometimes but this boi aint no simp
If you read the contract, it actually mentions something along the lines of “Twitch is not employing you”. So read the contract and stop getting banned lol.
Baggers can't choose
Not feeling well is not an excuse not to work
People who streams say they are sick they take day off or week's off feel better they don't come on and stream just for for money they use the time to relax to feel 100% better
if you want to guilt trip someone do it in person.
i think people of twitter should start giving lesser shit
She's that entitled that she thinks that she should be allowed to do literal piracy just because she's sick. The audacity of this girl...
Was a barber and owned my own buissnes- yah as a self employed person it's your responsibility to make a savings for sick time, vacation time, and taxes.
I got sick and needed surgery. On top of rent I still had to pay I also missed out on thousands being out of work.
If I didn't have a savings I would have been screwed
Lol imagine asking for a sick day off on a job where you make your own schedule.
Imagine making 6 figures by existing and talking to your computer for hours a day being able to sit at home. While people have to go to school or work to try to make a living getting paid a fraction of what you make with actual skills that help society.
Forged in fire🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
banned forever or?
Just two days
@@UltimateGrabber should be much, much longer
Twitch did not employ here, she could have gotten a normal job if she wanted.
Oh my I don't get paid for not having a real job?????
2019 we was watching our favorite streamers
2022 we watched are favorite twitch streamers get banned
Twitch isn’t an employer unless you have a contract with them to stream on their platform for a set amount of hours lmao
DMCA bans can be unfair when you are an IRL Streamer and someone just so happens to be playing The Weeknd in the background, but if you're just watching a show like Forged in Fire or Avatar The Last Airbender or do something like that one guy who tried streaming an entire UFC Pay-Per-View but had himself in the bottom corner holding a controller to look like he was playing a video game, then you just need to shut up and eat that ban
Twitch can sometimes be cruel to streamers yes, but this is a ban that YOU fully knew. You knew you were watching something that CAN be DMCA'ed.
I think that people should not try to make streaming of any kind a main source of income
I mean she is correct that she doesn’t get paid time off, don’t see how that doesn’t break copyright law
Laziness is gonna destroy us especially real content
That's the tough part about being a freelance/entrepreneur you make big bucks but the life is risky
Like.... Wtf is wrong with these "big name" streamers doing that?
“waah I’m self employed with arguably the best job on the internet and don’t get sick days off I’m gonna cry”
Now I feel like twitch is the type of company that would still give you a copyright claim even though the video is completely free and they don’t mind other people watching it and recording
Yeah, even as a twitch Partner, you aren't an employee but a contractor. Basically, no work, no money. You don't get medical. You don't get vacation and you don't get pto.
I think anything about people angry on Twitter should not matter because they are all wayyyyy too emotional
Wait she wanted PTO? Where does she think this money is gunna come from
Imagine being in this position and complaining that you get no sick days🤣
I always thought streaming myself was PTO. Getting paid while at home? Poor little girl.
They’re basically contractors tho?
Honestly at this point I can’t even fucking decide
Although I don’t know the stream or contract of any most streamers have to stream a certain amount of hours weekly or monthly in order to keep the contract. I do think that the tweet is dumb since streaming does not make you an employee but it makes you a contractor since you are being contracted to complete a task for the buyer
I saw another thing on this guy that had to lay off a bunch of workers and got shit for it because they could be struggling, to put it simply, you’re not entitled to a job, you’re not entitled to pay, you don’t get to break the rules and then continue expecting payment. If I commit a crime, I don’t get off scot free because my family would miss me, and I make a positive impact on people, because I still committed the crime.
I mean...why continue to work for them if you don't like what they offer you
it's a tv show, about blacksmiths (master or not) competing for (if I remember correctly) 10,000. who DMCA'd the person? Was it the people running the show, was it twitch? much confuse
Does she think she works for the government or something? XD
Twitch do not employ streamers there for streamers are not entitled to employee benefits such as sick pay and paid time off. As for the ban,don’t watch TV on stream.
Twitch has the dumbest rules
She shouldn't get any benefits, she is just a twitch streamer
Bro what? Paid time off? That is the stupidest i’ve ever heard
Imagine a journalist plagiarizing a paper because they were sick and had to get it finished