Benny: you told me to read all of fall of X then it's grate!" Sals face:" No I didn't I said read what you like and ignore what you don't, but I refused to make a video of me reminding you so... go on."
Lmao I immediately caught that. Honestly the approach of just read what you like should apply to all comics. It makes life so much easier and enjoyable
They did put in out in the story with a line saying Sometimes you have this power othertimes you'll lose it alowing future writers to decide if they want to do lethal protecter venom, king in black, or whatever crazy thing they come up with him next.
😂😂😂😂 so many awesome conversations like these over 10 years....and while the weekly pull was great...its been a lot of just Benny and Sal consistently over the years. Shoutout Dan too.....man i hope those guys are ok. Sending u all love. ❤❤❤
I know he ended his Venom story, but I really want Donny Cates to come back to write something again. Edit: Also its crazy we're getting a Venomverse one shot where the Insomniac Venom is transported to the main marvel universe during the events of King in Black
I'm pretty sure I've say through episodes of Benny talking about how comics refuse to move forward and return to the status quo, but he's talking about how it sucks that Venom keeps moving forward. I know it's more multifaceted and you're allowed to want something and also still hold that want to a standard of quality. But Benny would hate pro wrestling and soap opera. Those are NOTHING BUT forward storytelling and you may NEVER get what you had a decade, a year, or a week ago. Ask Joel on this one.
Personally prefer the white anti venom suit, granted my favorites Spider-Man suit is his Future Foundation suit so you can tell where my priorities are 😅
Paul Jenkins gave Eddie cancer. Nobody ever remembers that story. It reveals that symbiotes feed off Adrenalin which I don't think was carried forward.
Donny Cates retconned it, saying that the symbiote "faked" the cancer so that Eddie would stay dependent on the symbiote. Lotta relationship stuff going on in that run
If you want a real pallete cleanser that's also a really good run then i recommend Moon Knight by jed mckay, it's amazing with great art and i hope you eventually do a video about it.
Venom the king in black arc is a good story Eddie Brock and Dylan brock realationship is realistic Eddie is not perfect his heart is their but he make mistake and his goal is to Try to fix it To Eddie killing is easy but been a father he struggles
Nah, man Sal is cool. They are just talking about dumb superheroes made for kids. It ain't that deep, bro. At least he is a little funny, and bring the energy to the podcast. The real insufferable douche on the podcast is Hassan. Who either overhypes mid or normal pieces of superhero media as "iconic" or "greateat thing to ever exist". He is such a stubborn, opinionated, no good entitled brat.
Because this shit costs money and he has to read tons of books every week and make podcasts and edit videos. Not to mention he's married and has life. Sometimes you gotta be intentional with what you do with your time and money.
It’s amateur hour in the writing rooms at Marvel. I feel like Marvel now writes for the purpose of seeding plots for the MCU instead of telling compelling stories.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt this. I followed Venom from King in Black through the current series but when Carnage pops out I just closed the book and walked away. I haven't cared about Carnage since roughly thr 90s
i think there's a couple of valid points, but overall this discussion screams "super hero youtuber". and what i mean is that you focus a lot, almost everything on the plot, because that's your job, cause you make videos recapping super hero plots. i'm on par with this venom run, and even i found it hard to listen to 15 minutes of plot beats. but comics aren't made to be turned into youtube recaps. they're made to be read. you can read an issue every month, you can accumulate issues, you can read the volumes or an omnibus, but most important you can read them more than once and at your own pace. i read this run over the course of 3 years, it's crazy to think you can squeeze it in less than 20 minutes of monologue and make sense of everything without either getting things wrong or forgetting details. even the most simple comic on earth, recapped like this, would seem weird and confusing.
Let me get this straight: You disagree with their discussion mainly because their summary of events doesn't do justice to the story being told. If so, I don't disagree. In fact, I'm often left wondering why some people complain about the new lore for Venom yet didn't complained about that on Ewing's I mmortal Hulk. I'm not writing this to be a "gotcha" mind you...I genuinely don't get what he did right on Hulk that for others, he's not doing right on Venom.
Minus the Dyaln becomes the new Venom, & Eddie's new badass red design, this run is just poorly done. But what do you expect from a comic being edited by Zeb Wells? 🤮
The amount of times I found myself asking "what the hell?" Is absurd. Then I remembered it's venom and it'll make a great back issues
Benny: you told me to read all of fall of X then it's grate!"
Sals face:" No I didn't I said read what you like and ignore what you don't, but I refused to make a video of me reminding you so... go on."
Lmao I immediately caught that. Honestly the approach of just read what you like should apply to all comics. It makes life so much easier and enjoyable
It's called neurodivergent hyperfocus. Benny is my ADHD spirit animal
It’s definitely a book that’s better read as a trade or as a binge session on Marvel Unlimited.
i love this entire venom run tbh but man the monthly release sucks with how complicated the plot is
They did put in out in the story with a line saying Sometimes you have this power othertimes you'll lose it alowing future writers to decide if they want to do lethal protecter venom, king in black, or whatever crazy thing they come up with him next.
We cant have Carnage reproduce, that makes the Venom symbiote a grand father. It ages the character.
Carnage birthed toxin
Toxin is carnage son.
@@IIPreI think it was a joke, man
I think this run should’ve just focused on Dylan being the new Venom, and had Eddie as a side character.
I actually really like this story. Toruń’s carnage combined with this has been awesome.
😂😂😂😂 so many awesome conversations like these over 10 years....and while the weekly pull was great...its been a lot of just Benny and Sal consistently over the years. Shoutout Dan too.....man i hope those guys are ok. Sending u all love. ❤❤❤
Love Benny catching Sal up with forgotten plot lines and narrative threads
Please just make more rant and discussion videos!!
Been loving the Ewing Venom post hitch leaving and hyped for Venom War
Random autoplay hitting me in the feels hearing Benny again
i believe al ewing has a vision but editorial is interfering too much
Or concept is just too much.
I know he ended his Venom story, but I really want Donny Cates to come back to write something again.
Edit: Also its crazy we're getting a Venomverse one shot where the Insomniac Venom is transported to the main marvel universe during the events of King in Black
Where does the Misery come from and where does that series connect? I remember seeing it a while back.
Isnt toxin the son of carnage
Yes
I'm pretty sure I've say through episodes of Benny talking about how comics refuse to move forward and return to the status quo, but he's talking about how it sucks that Venom keeps moving forward. I know it's more multifaceted and you're allowed to want something and also still hold that want to a standard of quality. But Benny would hate pro wrestling and soap opera. Those are NOTHING BUT forward storytelling and you may NEVER get what you had a decade, a year, or a week ago. Ask Joel on this one.
This right here? This is why I just subscribe to Comic TH-cam.
I remember Al Ewing's guardians run that was awesome this is confusing
Personally prefer the white anti venom suit, granted my favorites Spider-Man suit is his Future Foundation suit so you can tell where my priorities are 😅
Paul Jenkins gave Eddie cancer. Nobody ever remembers that story. It reveals that symbiotes feed off Adrenalin which I don't think was carried forward.
Donny Cates retconned it, saying that the symbiote "faked" the cancer so that Eddie would stay dependent on the symbiote. Lotta relationship stuff going on in that run
The video title totally sucked me in lmao
"We are Venom"‼️ (evil laughter)
If you want a real pallete cleanser that's also a really good run then i recommend Moon Knight by jed mckay, it's amazing with
great art and i hope you eventually do a video about it.
Gushes about cool or interesting art made by specific artists…doesn’t show on screen. Don’t ever change Absolutely.
Agent antivenom looks cooler the white and black is way more dope
LEEE PRICE??? REALLY 😂😂😂
Venom the king in black arc is a good story
Eddie Brock and Dylan brock realationship is realistic
Eddie is not perfect his heart is their but he make mistake and his goal is to
Try to fix it
To Eddie killing is easy but been a father he struggles
I’ve been loving Venom…but it’s really weird
Benny’s surface level understanding of everything and ignoring and bulldozing of stuff Sal says is getting tiring at this point
Yeah, dude. I'm only here for Sal in the first place. It seems the shows with just the two of them are a waste of his time.
Nah, man Sal is cool. They are just talking about dumb superheroes made for kids. It ain't that deep, bro. At least he is a little funny, and bring the energy to the podcast.
The real insufferable douche on the podcast is Hassan. Who either overhypes mid or normal pieces of superhero media as "iconic" or "greateat thing to ever exist". He is such a stubborn, opinionated, no good entitled brat.
Why does it seem Sal is not open to read a book if his initial thoughts early is it's not good
Because this shit costs money and he has to read tons of books every week and make podcasts and edit videos. Not to mention he's married and has life. Sometimes you gotta be intentional with what you do with your time and money.
Benny, do Iron Man and Black Widow
It’s amateur hour in the writing rooms at Marvel. I feel like Marvel now writes for the purpose of seeding plots for the MCU instead of telling compelling stories.
Man after seeing the X-Men rant and now jumping into the Venom rant I'm just tired.😂
After all these years I'm confident Sal hates mutants 😂😂😂😂😂 just joking xmen is a saga that cost a ton of money for casual readers
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt this. I followed Venom from King in Black through the current series but when Carnage pops out I just closed the book and walked away. I haven't cared about Carnage since roughly thr 90s
i think there's a couple of valid points, but overall this discussion screams "super hero youtuber". and what i mean is that you focus a lot, almost everything on the plot, because that's your job, cause you make videos recapping super hero plots. i'm on par with this venom run, and even i found it hard to listen to 15 minutes of plot beats.
but comics aren't made to be turned into youtube recaps. they're made to be read. you can read an issue every month, you can accumulate issues, you can read the volumes or an omnibus, but most important you can read them more than once and at your own pace. i read this run over the course of 3 years, it's crazy to think you can squeeze it in less than 20 minutes of monologue and make sense of everything without either getting things wrong or forgetting details. even the most simple comic on earth, recapped like this, would seem weird and confusing.
Let me get this straight: You disagree with their discussion mainly because their summary of events doesn't do justice to the story being told.
If so, I don't disagree. In fact, I'm often left wondering why some people complain about the new lore for Venom yet didn't complained about that on Ewing's I mmortal Hulk.
I'm not writing this to be a "gotcha" mind you...I genuinely don't get what he did right on Hulk that for others, he's not doing right on Venom.
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Twisted
Minus the Dyaln becomes the new Venom, & Eddie's new badass red design, this run is just poorly done. But what do you expect from a comic being edited by Zeb Wells? 🤮
Zeb Wells?
@@psycamorean yeah, they literally mentioned that Zeb Wells was on the editorial for this comic run.
@@DiamondBatToons I don't think that's true. I'm pretty sure it's Devin Lewis editing it.
Marvel really needs a reboot. My head hurt just trying to follow Benny explanations.
What an unnecessary mess of a story for venom 😂