Thankyou so much for this history lesson on St Francis of Assisi, i did not know much of him as a child. I just loved this saintly man as he was my favourit St growing up as a christian child and later in life reverted to islam and i too sm with a sufi order. Thankyou once again for this beautiful history lesson, asalaamu'alaykum ❤
A fascinating insight into an amazing man. I have always had a soft spot for St Francis despite no longer having much faith in the Catholic church. He was a man for everyone.
I was raised in an Italian Catholic family. I took my confirmation name as Francesco in honor of St. Francis. I was always drawn to him for some reason. Many years later I would have a number of intellectual and spiritual experiences that would lead me closer to God. The nearer I drew the closer I came to Islam and the message of Gods Oneness over creation. I respect Francis for his earnestness and humility.
I went to Saint Francis College and we had pictures of him in the hallways , I had a very intense LSD experience here where I immediately became a Muslim after this experience, I remember walking down the staircase when I was going through withdrawals and seeing his pictures gave me a profound experience as if he was calling out to me and the saints all were inviting me to be a part of something but in my heart I kept thinking I was not worthy to be like them and I was not qualified. I walked through the school trying to hold my tears after this experience of seeing their pictures and I was hysterically crying often for a week straight around this time in Brooklyn. I did not know he was related to Sufism in any way until now and that adds an even deeper layer to this. Thank you, Assalamu Walaikum, Namaste 🙏🕉️☪️✝️☯️🙏
Wow amazing, LSD was the gateway to spirituality from scientific atheism for me, and sufism was the result of a long search for Gurdjieff's unnamed teachers, so your post resonates deeply. Cheers and Namaste, friend! Many thanks and blessings...
@@spiritualreliefchannelinteresting. It was kinda the other way around for me. Spirituality was my gateway to LSD. It all lead to Gurdjieff and Sufism though. For me, Castaneda and Idris Shah kind of came together in Gurdjieff’s Fourth way.
Interesting indeed, I read a biography of Gurdjieff by his student Bennett and he said the "sufis" were Gurdjieffs teachers/hidden masters so I then found Idries Shaws books and devoured them until he convinced me to give all my books away and give up searching until the "sufis" would find me when I was ready... very cool to find people in a similar Orbit, cheers and Namaste!
Beautiful!! Dear Saint Francis and Rumi. Thank you!!! 🙏❤️🌍🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵 Wake! For the Sun Who Scatter'd into The Flight of Flight of The Stars. Rubaiyat Omar Kbayyam, The Astromer-Poet of Persia
A Sufi story about a man called Baal Shem Tov who sits in a room with Rumi and Saint Francis. It is so silent, you can hear a pin drop, and no one moves. Each leaves through a separate door. Three cups of mint tea remain undrunk. But the bowls of figs and dates are empty.
" "Saint Francis of Assisi lay on his deathbed. He was singing, and singing so loudly that the whole neighborhood was aware. Brother Elias, a pompous but prominent member of the Franciscan order, came close to Saint Francis and said, ‘Father, there are people standing in the street outside your window.’ Many had come. Fearing that the last moment of Francis’ life had come, many who loved him had gathered together around the house. Said this brother Elias, “I am afraid nothing we might do could prevent them from hearing you singing. The lack of restraint at so grave an hour might embarrass the order, Father. It might lower the esteem in which you yourself are so justly held. Perhaps in your extremity you have lost sight of your obligation to the many who have come to regard you as a saint. Would it not be more edifying for them if you would, er, die with more Christian dignity?” “Please excuse me, Brother,” Saint Francis said, “but I feel so much joy in my heart that I really can’t help myself. I must sing!” And he died singing. In the whole Christian history, he’s the only one who has died singing. Many Zen people have died singing, but they don’t belong to Christianity. He is the only Zen master amongst Christian saints. He didn’t care a bit about Christian dignity. Saint Francis of Assisi has a different vision - he is just ordinary. He says, “Please excuse me, Brother, but I feel so much joy in my heart that I really can’t help myself. I must sing!” In fact, it is not that Francis is singing, Francis has become the song. That’s why he cannot help, he cannot control. There is nobody left to control it. If the song is happening it is happening. It is not within control, it can’t be, because the controller has disappeared. The self, the ego, no more exists. Saint Francis does not exist as an individual. There is absolute silence inside. Out of that silence this song is born. What can Francis do? That’s why he says, “I can’t help it. I must sing!” And he died singing. And there can be no other better death. If you can die singing, that proves that you lived singing, that your life was a joy and death became the crescendo of it, the culmination. Saint Francis of Assisi is a Buddha. The characteristic of a Buddha is that he is ordinary, that he has no ideas about himself of how he should be, that he simply is spontaneous, that whatsoever happens, happens. He lives on the spur of the moment, that is his authenticity. You can call it his characteristic, but what kind of characteristic is this? It is simply that he has no character, he has no strait-jacket of a character around himself, he has no armor, he does not live from the past, that he does not know what Christian dignity is. He lives in the moment like a child."----Osho
@@spiritualreliefchannel I kind of thought that might be the case. But you did such a good job putting your video together in such a short time! Did you see the whole Rossellini film? If not, please see it. It is very beautiful and very inspirational. All done with non professional actors except for one. The non professional who platys St. Francis is marvelous. Rossellini is a very very great director!
Thanks for this informative video. 12:06 you mention that 6 Winged Seraph represents the formula for Bismillah for Sufis. Can you please provide a reference for that as I want to further explore this concept. Thank you.
The first place you can check out it the book by Idries Shaw called 'The Sufis' - that is where this specific info came from - I will ask someone for further links if I can - welcome and may you find what you are looking for !
Great content very interesting; side question about the production...the old movie scene with the leopards in the desert; what was that film called/ title ? thank you
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This is way out there, I like it. You mention the Kubrawiyya, and recent studies suggest it was much influenced by Ilkhanid Buddhism, so there's that. But I'm not convinced he would have needed to take a journey to the east in order to feel inspired to write poetry about the sun.
There are reports of him meeting with Shamsuddin of Tabriz, furthermore the Troubadour movement itself is possibly a result of Sufic influence..see "The Sufis" by Idries Shah..peace be with you all
100 percent ! That book by Mr. Shah changed my life and was one of the most important links on my spiritual and life journey and is the source of the video ! Peace be with you as well !
It seems to me that you can project Sufism and Sufi ideas onto all kinds of great and noble religious and spiritual movements and find a lot of congruence or common ground between them. That does not necessarily make Saint Francis a Sufi, however. Walk into any metaphysical bookstore and you can find books pointing out the common threads that link Jesus and the Buddha, or Mohammed, or whoever may strike your fancy.
Tu veux savoir pourquoi à moi, tout le monde me suit? Cela je l'ai de ces yeux de Dieu très haut, qui en tous lieux contemplent les bons et les coupables: parce que ces yeux très saints n'ont vu parmi les pécheurs personne de plus vil, de plus insuffisant, ni plus grand pécheur que moi, et parce que pour faire cette oeuvre merveilleuse, qu'il entendait faire, il n'a pas trouvé sur la terre de plus vile créature, il m'a choisi pour confondre la noblesse et la grandeur et la force et la beauté et la science du monde, afin que l'on connaisse que toute vertu et tout bien viennent de lui et non de la créature, et que nul ne puisse se glorifier en sa présence mais celui qui se glorifie, qu'il se glorifie dans le Seigneur à qui est tout honneur et gloire dans l'éternité.
Prière du Matin de Saint François d'Assise : « Seigneur, dans le silence de ce jour naissant, je viens vous demander la paix, la sagesse et la force. Je veux regarder aujourd'hui le monde avec des yeux remplis d'amour ; être patient, compréhensif, doux et sage ; voir vos enfants au-delà des apparences, comme vous les voyez vous-même, et ainsi, ne voir que le bien en chacun. Fermez mes oreilles à toute calomnie, gardez ma langue de toute malveillance et que seules les pensées qui bénissent demeurent en mon esprit. Que je sois si bienveillant et si joyeux que tous ceux qui m'approchent sentent votre puissance et votre présence. Revêtez-moi de votre beauté, Seigneur, et qu'au long du jour je vous révèle. Ainsi soit-il. »
Regardless, Christianity comes from África. Even though the vatican usurped the "authority" It's all eastern teachings. Jesus was not white. The Apostles weren't either. Never forget that.
@@marthakirby8045Jesus (Issa) was Jewish from the tribe of Levi and was described by a few sources as being fair. He often wore white and was mistaken for a Kushan noble years later in Kashmir in his search for the lost tribes. He’s buried there at the Rozebal Shrine as Yusu Asoph (Jesus son of Joseph or Christ the Gatherer.)
Some Muslims hate Sufis and say they are Haram. Most Sufis would, however, agree with your statement, cheers, and Namaste, and thank you for watching and commenting!
Sufism is an Islamic movement that teaches how to purify the soul, clarify morals, develop the inner and outer body and to obtain eternal happiness. In Imam Al-Ghazali's simple language, a Sufi is a person who maintains his behavior to always obey Allah physically and mentally, and caring for others and nature. Personally, I think a non-Muslim can study Sufism but is he a true Sufi if he doesn't believe in Allah in the first place?
No. What existed under the Sufi label during the height of Islam existed centuries before. It is the ancient science of man existing under many names going back to Abraham. Sufi teachers recognized others such as the Neoplatonists as having the same higher knowledge.
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You would serve yourself better if u didn't use the ai too narrate boss, good content all the same, very informative....
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Much love, your comment just made my day friend !! I would love to visit Ethiopia one day God willing, cheers and Namaste
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Thankyou so much for this history lesson on St Francis of Assisi, i did not know much of him as a child. I just loved this saintly man as he was my favourit St growing up as a christian child and later in life reverted to islam and i too sm with a sufi order. Thankyou once again for this beautiful history lesson, asalaamu'alaykum ❤
Thank you so much for your comment it made my day ! Alyakum salaam
A fascinating insight into an amazing man. I have always had a soft spot for St Francis despite no longer having much faith in the Catholic church. He was a man for everyone.
Glad it resonated with you ! Many thanks and blessings...
I was raised in an Italian Catholic family. I took my confirmation name as Francesco in honor of St. Francis. I was always drawn to him for some reason. Many years later I would have a number of intellectual and spiritual experiences that would lead me closer to God. The nearer I drew the closer I came to Islam and the message of Gods Oneness over creation. I respect Francis for his earnestness and humility.
Beautiful, thank you !
Which religion does creator belong to?
@@theschoolofconsciousness Here's my video that resonates with your question: th-cam.com/video/Zql5NWl2Nak/w-d-xo.htmlsi=I05nm_vLMfBj83Ih
@theschoolofconsciousness I also highly recommend my community posts for your question, cheers and Namaste!
I went to Saint Francis College and we had pictures of him in the hallways , I had a very intense LSD experience here where I immediately became a Muslim after this experience, I remember walking down the staircase when I was going through withdrawals and seeing his pictures gave me a profound experience as if he was calling out to me and the saints all were inviting me to be a part of something but in my heart I kept thinking I was not worthy to be like them and I was not qualified. I walked through the school trying to hold my tears after this experience of seeing their pictures and I was hysterically crying often for a week straight around this time in Brooklyn. I did not know he was related to Sufism in any way until now and that adds an even deeper layer to this. Thank you, Assalamu Walaikum, Namaste 🙏🕉️☪️✝️☯️🙏
Wow amazing, LSD was the gateway to spirituality from scientific atheism for me, and sufism was the result of a long search for Gurdjieff's unnamed teachers, so your post resonates deeply. Cheers and Namaste, friend! Many thanks and blessings...
@@spiritualreliefchannel Oh it’s my pleasure ! I’m glad at least someone doesn’t think I’m crazy 😂 Namaste 🙏
Amazing. Thank you for sharing!
@@spiritualreliefchannelinteresting. It was kinda the other way around for me. Spirituality was my gateway to LSD.
It all lead to Gurdjieff and Sufism though. For me, Castaneda and Idris Shah kind of came together in Gurdjieff’s Fourth way.
Interesting indeed, I read a biography of Gurdjieff by his student Bennett and he said the "sufis" were Gurdjieffs teachers/hidden masters so I then found Idries Shaws books and devoured them until he convinced me to give all my books away and give up searching until the "sufis" would find me when I was ready... very cool to find people in a similar Orbit, cheers and Namaste!
Beautiful!! Dear Saint Francis and Rumi.
Thank you!!!
🙏❤️🌍🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵
Wake! For the Sun Who Scatter'd into The Flight of Flight of The Stars.
Rubaiyat Omar Kbayyam, The Astromer-Poet of Persia
Wonderful !
A Sufi story about a man called Baal Shem Tov who sits in a room with Rumi and Saint Francis. It is so silent, you can hear a pin drop, and no one moves. Each leaves through a separate door. Three cups of mint tea remain undrunk. But the bowls of figs and dates are empty.
Beautiful!
Friends Will find each other. Love you All.
" "Saint Francis of Assisi lay on his deathbed. He was singing, and singing so loudly that the whole neighborhood was aware. Brother Elias, a pompous but prominent member of the Franciscan order, came close to Saint Francis and said, ‘Father, there are people standing in the street outside your window.’ Many had come. Fearing that the last moment of Francis’ life had come, many who loved him had gathered together around the house.
Said this brother Elias, “I am afraid nothing we might do could prevent them from hearing you singing. The lack of restraint at so grave an hour might embarrass the order, Father. It might lower the esteem in which you yourself are so justly held. Perhaps in your extremity you have lost sight of your obligation to the many who have come to regard you as a saint. Would it not be more edifying for them if you would, er, die with more Christian dignity?”
“Please excuse me, Brother,” Saint Francis said, “but I feel so much joy in my heart that I really can’t help myself. I must sing!”
And he died singing. In the whole Christian history, he’s the only one who has died singing. Many Zen people have died singing, but they don’t belong to Christianity. He is the only Zen master amongst Christian saints. He didn’t care a bit about Christian dignity.
Saint Francis of Assisi has a different vision - he is just ordinary. He says, “Please excuse me, Brother, but I feel so much joy in my heart that I really can’t help myself. I must sing!” In fact, it is not that Francis is singing, Francis has become the song. That’s why he cannot help, he cannot control. There is nobody left to control it. If the song is happening it is happening. It is not within control, it can’t be, because the controller has disappeared. The self, the ego, no more exists. Saint Francis does not exist as an individual. There is absolute silence inside. Out of that silence this song is born. What can Francis do? That’s why he says, “I can’t help it. I must sing!”
And he died singing. And there can be no other better death. If you can die singing, that proves that you lived singing, that your life was a joy and death became the crescendo of it, the culmination.
Saint Francis of Assisi is a Buddha. The characteristic of a Buddha is that he is ordinary, that he has no ideas about himself of how he should be, that he simply is spontaneous, that whatsoever happens, happens. He lives on the spur of the moment, that is his authenticity. You can call it his characteristic, but what kind of characteristic is this? It is simply that he has no character, he has no strait-jacket of a character around himself, he has no armor, he does not live from the past, that he does not know what Christian dignity is. He lives in the moment like a child."----Osho
Many thanks and blessings Willie !
@@spiritualreliefchannel Thanks for this post, my friend. Such a beautiful soul.is Francis.
@@willieluncheonette5843 you were the inspiration !
@@spiritualreliefchannel I kind of thought that might be the case. But you did such a good job putting your video together in such a short time! Did you see the whole Rossellini film? If not, please see it. It is very beautiful and very inspirational. All done with non professional actors except for one. The non professional who platys St. Francis is marvelous. Rossellini is a very very great director!
@@willieluncheonette5843 not yet but it's on the list !
Can't wait ! It's been awhile, but you come up with wonderous thing's!
thank you kind sir !!
Islam had a huge influence on Christianity, including Protestintism. We need to shed more lights on interactions between the two faiths.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Ace. I love this bit of history.
Much love !
Thanks for this informative video. 12:06 you mention that 6 Winged Seraph represents the formula for Bismillah for Sufis. Can you please provide a reference for that as I want to further explore this concept. Thank you.
The first place you can check out it the book by Idries Shaw called 'The Sufis' - that is where this specific info came from - I will ask someone for further links if I can - welcome and may you find what you are looking for !
@@spiritualreliefchannel thank you
Thank you, many blessings.
You are so welcome
An entire chapter on St. Francis and his Sufi sources is in “The Sufis” published in 1965 by Idries Shah. .
100 percent, notes in the description!
Very interesting video
Glad you think so!
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De rien !
I Love To read Stories of Fairytales - and There You Meet - The Dervish …….🌞
As do I ! Cheers
thank you very much for such a beautiful history. may Allah bless his soul
Thank you too !
Great content very interesting; side question about the production...the old movie scene with the leopards in the desert; what was that film called/ title ? thank you
1961 film "Francis of assissi"
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@@WilliamKelly-ou2nm thank you !
This is way out there, I like it. You mention the Kubrawiyya, and recent studies suggest it was much influenced by Ilkhanid Buddhism, so there's that. But I'm not convinced he would have needed to take a journey to the east in order to feel inspired to write poetry about the sun.
I agree ! Many thanks and blessings!
There are reports of him meeting with Shamsuddin of Tabriz, furthermore the Troubadour movement itself is possibly a result of Sufic influence..see "The Sufis" by Idries Shah..peace be with you all
100 percent ! That book by Mr. Shah changed my life and was one of the most important links on my spiritual and life journey and is the source of the video ! Peace be with you as well !
Zefferelli's film 'Brother Sun Sister Moon' is worth a watch. Interesting stuff. Tx.
Ha, it's on my list to watch. Many thanks and blessings!
maybe the 'palm tree' 3:45 referring to Surah Maryam..
Very possible, it's usually a play on words and arabic word root, many thanks!
Interesting……….🌞
I sure hope so ! Many thanks and blessings !
Strange, the galaxies constellations and planets all twirl like Sufi’s!
100 percent ! As above - so below - the universe is amazing !
It seems to me that you can project Sufism and Sufi ideas onto all kinds of great and noble religious and spiritual movements and find a lot of congruence or common ground between them. That does not necessarily make Saint Francis a Sufi, however. Walk into any metaphysical bookstore and you can find books pointing out the common threads that link Jesus and the Buddha, or Mohammed, or whoever may strike your fancy.
Thanks for watching and commenting, cheers and Namaste!
I’d like to hear Richard Rohr on this subject.
I would as well he seems very nice !
Truth is one drop the labels
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Those people spinning & spinning are making me Dizzy just watching them 🥴 lol
😂Thanks for sharing!
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Franciscan history is always fascinating. Particularly his encounters with Islam. Pax et Bonum +
100 percent, many thanks!
Tu veux savoir pourquoi à moi, tout le monde me suit? Cela je l'ai de ces yeux de Dieu très haut,
qui en tous lieux contemplent les bons et les coupables: parce que ces yeux très saints
n'ont vu parmi les pécheurs personne de plus vil, de plus insuffisant, ni plus grand pécheur
que moi, et parce que pour faire cette oeuvre merveilleuse, qu'il entendait faire, il n'a pas
trouvé sur la terre de plus vile créature, il m'a choisi pour confondre la noblesse et la
grandeur et la force et la beauté et la science du monde, afin que l'on connaisse que toute
vertu et tout bien viennent de lui et non de la créature, et que nul ne puisse se glorifier en
sa présence mais celui qui se glorifie, qu'il se glorifie dans le Seigneur à qui est tout
honneur et gloire dans l'éternité.
Prière du Matin de Saint François d'Assise :
« Seigneur, dans le silence de ce jour naissant, je viens vous demander la paix, la sagesse et
la force. Je veux regarder aujourd'hui le monde avec des yeux remplis d'amour ; être
patient, compréhensif, doux et sage ; voir vos enfants au-delà des apparences, comme vous
les voyez vous-même, et ainsi, ne voir que le bien en chacun. Fermez mes oreilles à toute
calomnie, gardez ma langue de toute malveillance et que seules les pensées qui bénissent
demeurent en mon esprit. Que je sois si bienveillant et si joyeux que tous ceux qui
m'approchent sentent votre puissance et votre présence. Revêtez-moi de votre beauté,
Seigneur, et qu'au long du jour je vous révèle. Ainsi soit-il. »
Merci !
😏🙏💕GVB❤
👍💖🙏
Исихазм Суфизм Хасиды это есть мистический путь
Thanks for sharing!
European monastic tradition predates Islam itself let alone the Sufi tradition. it comes from the early Christian practice of desert hermitage.
Thank you !
Sufi was more developed though.
Regardless, Christianity comes from África. Even though the vatican usurped the "authority" It's all eastern teachings. Jesus was not white. The Apostles weren't either. Never forget that.
@@marthakirby8045Jesus (Issa) was Jewish from the tribe of Levi and was described by a few sources as being fair. He often wore white and was mistaken for a Kushan noble years later in Kashmir in his search for the lost tribes. He’s buried there at the Rozebal Shrine as Yusu Asoph (Jesus son of Joseph or Christ the Gatherer.)
I thought you had to be a Muslim to be a Sufi?
Some Muslims hate Sufis and say they are Haram. Most Sufis would, however, agree with your statement, cheers, and Namaste, and thank you for watching and commenting!
Sufism is an Islamic movement that teaches how to purify the soul, clarify morals, develop the inner and outer body and to obtain eternal happiness. In Imam Al-Ghazali's simple language, a Sufi is a person who maintains his behavior to always obey Allah physically and mentally, and caring for others and nature.
Personally, I think a non-Muslim can study Sufism but is he a true Sufi if he doesn't believe in Allah in the first place?
No. What existed under the Sufi label during the height of Islam existed centuries before. It is the ancient science of man existing under many names going back to Abraham. Sufi teachers recognized others such as the Neoplatonists as having the same higher knowledge.
yes. Sufism = mysticism in Islam. Every religion has their own mystical traditions.
Wonderful story but oof all that spinning would make me feel unwell aha, does look fun tho 😅 doing something pure and fun like being a kid again
Totally!
This is just delusional, far-fetched and totally incoherent in so many ways that it's simply preposterous.
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Is it because you are an islamophobe?
Please see “The Sufis” by Idries Shah with foreword by Robert Graves. 1965.
@DanceSampler thanks yes notes in the description, cheers, and Namaste!
Lies
Thanks for sharing!