I'm one of those engineers that designed and performed environmental, certification, safety, etc. testing. There is some joy in seeing the tear in the eye of a design engineer when you hand them back their design in more than one piece. 8^)
That's pretty cool. A long time ago, I used to work for a company doing UL/CSA/TUV product testing for manufacturers to gain their certifications. Usually it involved simulating powerline faults on low-voltage inputs (think a powerline falling across a telephone line, and injecting 10000 volts where the device is expecting 48). The devices would be destroyed, but the way in which they died had to be very controlled - they weren't allowed to spurt flame out and ignite the surface on which they were sitting, and so on. I basically destroyed expensive electronics for a living. It was fun.
Now I see why the Keysight equipments are so expensive. For some reason Electroboom came to mind when you were talking about shake testing, he frequenty drops his scopes, like in that video when he wanted to jumpstart his car, the engine turned on and the vibration shook the scope off of the engine :)
For what it’s worth, every major electronics manufacturer does this kind of testing. Smaller companies can outsource testing instead of investing in a lab of their own.
Uncle works at a testing facility, specializes in telecom. When im old enough to get a job I would love to work at a testing lab. Got a couple tours at the place and its truely the most amazing place with test equipment at every corner!
I've spent plenty of time with thermal chambers, shake tables, and especially semi-anechoic chambers! When I did space electronics work, we used thermal vacuum chambers, where all of the air is removed from the chamber. Nearby was the thermal vacuum chamber used for the Mercury & Gemini capsules, which was pretty cool. Testing is a combination of interesting and incredibly boring, but it does help fix problems before it gets to the customer!
Amazing video such complex topics summarized so beautifully. Each of those sub-topics are worlds in themselves. There are so many standards and specifications that have to be adhered to and can a topic for a separate video themself. Awesome!
I greatly enjoy seeing other labs and see what they're doing, from Semiconductor Automated Test Equipment, to HALT/HAST/HTS testing like what you showed today, to testing of individual boards, to testing full devices. It was interesting seeing the similarities and differences between the anechoic chamber you have setup for high power RF EMC compared to one that's set up for low power, high frequency antenna testing.
Great Video... it is so important for a lot of people to know how much goes into the testing of the test equipment. Folks, there's a reason why the equipment costs more *AND* why it is so rugged and dependable. How do I know this actually goes on? Back before it was Keysight, around 1996 thru 2000, I worked as a firmware engineer at HP/Agilent Santa Clara, CA in the Calif. Semiconductor Test Division and we had our new prototypes torture tested like that... the mechanical shake tests really go on, all the vibration expected in shipping, and in addition, they'd dwell at resonant frequencies and tried their best to break our stuff... I recall being told (not shown) about one test in particular that to this day makes me shudder: The drop test. The idea is that the [expensive] equipment is dropped on its various faces to find what breaks. Yeah that one made me sad to think about expensive equipment being tortured and broken like that, but the end the product will stand up to a lot of abuse! If I can afford it, I'll either buy used HP/Agilent (or hope to win) Keysight equipment... it _will_ work reliably for many, many years... totally worth it!
The drop test! The machine is in the room there with the shake table, but I wasn't able to find footage of it in action so I (with a heavy heart) left it out of this video.
@@KeysightLabs Probably for me it's best... I don't want to have nightmares LOL 😂😂 I respect my equipment and give it a loving home... but it's like watching a horror movie... still want to see it 😁 or maybe it's like sausage making: you don't want to know what goes in to making it, but enjoy the end-product... I can't decide which analogy works in this case.
AaaaaaanD that's why i bought my Keysight MSOX3104T Oscilloscope, mixed signal, 4+16 channel, 1 GHz -BNDL from Keysight Labs . For those who complain that they are expensive .
Love the video. The environmental chambers bring me back to the late 70,s. I was tasked to characterize temperature drift on HP 86290 sweeper modules. The chamber was heated electrically and cooled with controlled liquid CO2 injection. My idea to save time and CO2, I would go hot to cold for one instrument, then cold back to hot with the next unit. I didn’t even consider that an instrument that was -20c would condense moisture at an alarming rate as it was heated up during the heat test. We know now that an 86290 will not work properly with water running off the control boards, however once dry, all was well. The procedure was henceforth written to specifically prohibit my short lived “brilliant” time saver idea.
I think what most impressed or interested me was seeing what looked like some real HP-branded equipment in the background in that first 10 second introductory scene. Good to know that it is still working in your lab as well as mine. :-)
Hi Daniel, Thank you. That was very interesting. Yes, please give us more testing videos, perhaps with more details. I would be particularly interested in seeing how electrical testing is done and how GPIB is used for testing. Cheers Mark
Fantastic test lab. I worked at a place that did vibe table tests. They did it in the same room where audio frequency tests were taking place. 😉 Red boxes would appear in the test report for seemingly no reason.
In the labs, the very fabric of time and space are tested to their extreme. Note the use of a perfectly spherical spongebob _square_ pants probe used to create micro black holes in reality... Also, it's pretty cute. :D (and yes I know there are dimples in the golf ball... yeesh.)
The video mentioned that Keysight can do their own tests for CSA and UL approval. I wonder what they do for FCC type approval testing. Is that also done in-house or is that work sent out to another facility or company?
I hope that I become successful enough to buy a decent keysight oscilloscope and get rid of the Hantek. Really, owning keysight equipments is my dream. Wish me a luck.
most companies keeping their practices confidential are part of the part obsolescence conglomerate and they don't want you to see CALIBRATING their product FAILURE rates.
The contact Bruce message on the oscilloscope is brilliant. Also the "do not tap glass" one. Thanks for sharing those details. Also do you even need to ask if people would like to see more? Really? ;)
In industry, they are usually taken apart and all parts studied for what the effects were; resistors checked for cracks, caps checked for leaks, BGAs checked for cracks, or taken to more aggressive torture tests.
Why would you want to buy a piece of equipment that's been used for extreme stress testing? That's like asking an auto manufacturer if they'll sell you one of their cars that's been crash tested.
I like videos about testing! Test is essential to get successful products. Many years ago, a thermal test saved me from a potential embarassing issue. My clever redesign of a analog timer circuit failed the environamental test because it misbehaved below -25C. I was sceptical about the usefulness of this test, it seemed unrealistic to me, but I had to fix the issue anyway with significant part count and cost increase. It eventually turned out that one of the first customers of the product was based in Siberia. I also had a instance where the tests did NOT found out a severe reliability issue. 6 months after the start of the deploy on the fields, devices started to fail. They had to be all warranty fixed or replaced, hundreds of them. A simple additional test could have spotted the issue, but no one thought about it.
One of my fondest experiences early in my career was doing environmental testing on flow computers. We had a product prototype that not only had to be stupidly accurate (a 0.01% error could be the difference of thousands of dollars of product) but was also rated for zone 0 where an explosive atmosphere is likely to be present. The amount of capacitance that was allowed was severely restricted and when running at -60C diminished severely. Getting the thing to run properly, if at all, was a challenge but a rewarding one when we finally got all the issues solved.
Since you asked ... I liked it, and more like this would be just _fine_! (but I don't think I can handle 19 thousand, nine hundred, and ninety nine more... maybe just stop when you hit 10 thousand)
Is is usual that buyers purchase a new Keysight multimeter and get a used one ? Or is that just the case with Keysight Germany and distributor Meilhaus ? th-cam.com/video/2wPtHoSTvxw/w-d-xo.html Ist es üblich, dass Käufer ein neues Keysight Multimeter kaufen und ein gebrauchtes erhalten ? Oder ist das nur bei Keysight Deutschland und Meilhaus der Fall ?
WE WANT MORE OF SUCH VIDEOS!!
Indeed, please show us the complete unedited tour (without the secrets of course)
I'm one of those engineers that designed and performed environmental, certification, safety, etc. testing. There is some joy in seeing the tear in the eye of a design engineer when you hand them back their design in more than one piece. 8^)
ROFL!!
Good to see a brand that is worried in making their products last a lifetime instead of "planning" obsolescence
Please do more of these, those labs are so interesting !
That's pretty cool. A long time ago, I used to work for a company doing UL/CSA/TUV product testing for manufacturers to gain their certifications. Usually it involved simulating powerline faults on low-voltage inputs (think a powerline falling across a telephone line, and injecting 10000 volts where the device is expecting 48). The devices would be destroyed, but the way in which they died had to be very controlled - they weren't allowed to spurt flame out and ignite the surface on which they were sitting, and so on. I basically destroyed expensive electronics for a living. It was fun.
Loved this style! Seeing behind the scenes, and your editing / music use are perfect.
Thanks!
"In this testing room we leave the scope a while with Electroboom and see how the scope fares under such extreme conditions."
Fabricio Fanfa , OMG... YESSSSSSS!
Yes we would be glad to see more manual tests ;)
@MichaelKingsfordGray whaaaat?
Now I see why the Keysight equipments are so expensive. For some reason Electroboom came to mind when you were talking about shake testing, he frequenty drops his scopes, like in that video when he wanted to jumpstart his car, the engine turned on and the vibration shook the scope off of the engine :)
Dukefazon , LOL Exactly!
For what it’s worth, every major electronics manufacturer does this kind of testing. Smaller companies can outsource testing instead of investing in a lab of their own.
Uncle works at a testing facility, specializes in telecom. When im old enough to get a job I would love to work at a testing lab. Got a couple tours at the place and its truely the most amazing place with test equipment at every corner!
SpongeBob SquarePants is balling. Also, Aglient still alive in the the basement making Keysight babies healthy. 2:55
7:49 wow very impressive layout.
I've spent plenty of time with thermal chambers, shake tables, and especially semi-anechoic chambers! When I did space electronics work, we used thermal vacuum chambers, where all of the air is removed from the chamber. Nearby was the thermal vacuum chamber used for the Mercury & Gemini capsules, which was pretty cool. Testing is a combination of interesting and incredibly boring, but it does help fix problems before it gets to the customer!
Nobody:
Keysight: CALIBRATED GOLF BALL
Amazing video such complex topics summarized so beautifully. Each of those sub-topics are worlds in themselves. There are so many standards and specifications that have to be adhered to and can a topic for a separate video themself. Awesome!
Thank you! This vid easily could have been an hour or more :)
@@KeysightLabs : how long should lab tour vids be?
Everyone: yes!
I greatly enjoy seeing other labs and see what they're doing, from Semiconductor Automated Test Equipment, to HALT/HAST/HTS testing like what you showed today, to testing of individual boards, to testing full devices. It was interesting seeing the similarities and differences between the anechoic chamber you have setup for high power RF EMC compared to one that's set up for low power, high frequency antenna testing.
Great Video... it is so important for a lot of people to know how much goes into the testing of the test equipment. Folks, there's a reason why the equipment costs more *AND* why it is so rugged and dependable. How do I know this actually goes on? Back before it was Keysight, around 1996 thru 2000, I worked as a firmware engineer at HP/Agilent Santa Clara, CA in the Calif. Semiconductor Test Division and we had our new prototypes torture tested like that... the mechanical shake tests really go on, all the vibration expected in shipping, and in addition, they'd dwell at resonant frequencies and tried their best to break our stuff... I recall being told (not shown) about one test in particular that to this day makes me shudder: The drop test. The idea is that the [expensive] equipment is dropped on its various faces to find what breaks. Yeah that one made me sad to think about expensive equipment being tortured and broken like that, but the end the product will stand up to a lot of abuse! If I can afford it, I'll either buy used HP/Agilent (or hope to win) Keysight equipment... it _will_ work reliably for many, many years... totally worth it!
The drop test! The machine is in the room there with the shake table, but I wasn't able to find footage of it in action so I (with a heavy heart) left it out of this video.
@@KeysightLabs Probably for me it's best... I don't want to have nightmares LOL 😂😂 I respect my equipment and give it a loving home... but it's like watching a horror movie... still want to see it 😁 or maybe it's like sausage making: you don't want to know what goes in to making it, but enjoy the end-product... I can't decide which analogy works in this case.
Very intersting. Definitely want more videos in the labs.
AaaaaaanD that's why i bought my Keysight MSOX3104T Oscilloscope, mixed signal, 4+16 channel, 1 GHz -BNDL from
Keysight Labs . For those who complain that they are expensive .
7:15 As an engineer, can confirm
Yes. More of these videos. This was really interesting to see.
Love the video. The environmental chambers bring me back to the late 70,s. I was tasked to characterize temperature drift on HP 86290 sweeper modules. The chamber was heated electrically and cooled with controlled liquid CO2 injection. My idea to save time and CO2, I would go hot to cold for one instrument, then cold back to hot with the next unit. I didn’t even consider that an instrument that was -20c would condense moisture at an alarming rate as it was heated up during the heat test. We know now that an 86290 will not work properly with water running off the control boards, however once dry, all was well. The procedure was henceforth written to specifically prohibit my short lived “brilliant” time saver idea.
HALT Testing
aka
Highly Accelerated Life Testing Testing
ATM Machine
I loved it😍😍please do more of these videos😍😍😍
Good to see you test things with the volume set to 11! Keep up these sort of videos. So interesting to see behind the scenes.
I think what most impressed or interested me was seeing what looked like some real HP-branded equipment in the background in that first 10 second introductory scene. Good to know that it is still working in your lab as well as mine. :-)
Really enjoyed this "behind the scenes" tour of the test labs. Keep 'em coming. Would love to see more.
Solid play on Forrest Gump! Nice.
04:24
Yes! Yes! Yes! More of this please!
@Keysight Labs YES YES YES more like this please!
please more please more please more of this
More! More!
Very nice, that's why the equipments are expensive and reliable
Hi Daniel,
Thank you. That was very interesting. Yes, please give us more testing videos, perhaps with more details.
I would be particularly interested in seeing how electrical testing is done and how GPIB is used for testing.
Cheers
Mark
You have only one life and you can do only so many things and working for keysight for entire span of one's career seems like being worth it.
Fantastic test lab. I worked at a place that did vibe table tests. They did it in the same room where audio frequency tests were taking place. 😉 Red boxes would appear in the test report for seemingly no reason.
That is way more testing than I ever imagined!!!
I love to se more of keysight inside !
Maybe I cannot afford for Keysight scope right now, but now I know why this stuff is top quality :)
I love you! KeySight Labs
This is great, all your videos are great. Let's see more!
In the labs, the very fabric of time and space are tested to their extreme.
Note the use of a perfectly spherical spongebob _square_ pants probe used to create micro black holes in reality...
Also, it's pretty cute.
:D
(and yes I know there are dimples in the golf ball... yeesh.)
Enjoyed video alot
Thanks NASA THE POTATO
You are SO close to 100k subs, keep up the work and you'll get the playbutton soon
Thank you!
Fun and interesting video. Hope to see more!
Please do more of these
I'm waiiting online for part2, 3,.....part100 of keysight labs
It's the 10,001 bend that fails. 😢
Thanks for the behind the scenes look at the testing facility.
The video mentioned that Keysight can do their own tests for CSA and UL approval. I wonder what they do for FCC type approval testing. Is that also done in-house or is that work sent out to another facility or company?
Thanks!
Great video Thermotron!
I was in the Lab in germany, it was so interesting, what special testing equipment they have sometimes.
I'm here for the Doc Brown 88 MPH easter egg.
And Spinal Tap, of course. lol
Very cool to see the testing process!
Nice one. Love the tours. You need some apple boxes for everyone else given your height, Daniel.
Haha, we definitely do that in the main room sometimes
I appreciate video makers making the disclaimer about filming being done before the big mask thing
I loved. Thanks 😘
I hope that I become successful enough to buy a decent keysight oscilloscope and get rid of the Hantek. Really, owning keysight equipments is my dream. Wish me a luck.
Normally laboratory room of tech company will be confidential areas.
Keysight is so broad-minded for reveal laboratory area.
most companies keeping their practices confidential are part of the part obsolescence conglomerate and they don't want you to see CALIBRATING their product FAILURE rates.
That’s pretty cool.
As a rookie test engineer, I thought this was pretty cool. I see a lot of similarities between your stress tests and what my company does.
Yes, more lab tours, please 👍
Fascinating... though I want to know some of the things accelerated testing can miss or not test.
next video, worlds most expensive phoen charger with coffe machine, TV ,Roomba and osciloscope function. Great video as always
7:15 "Engineers in their natural habitat"
Keysight Geographic
I can see a lot of vintage Hewlett Packard lab equipment :P
Yeah it's still around everywhere, inside and outside of Keysight ;)
If one of those UXR's happen to break I'm happy to take it off your hands.
The contact Bruce message on the oscilloscope is brilliant. Also the "do not tap glass" one. Thanks for sharing those details.
Also do you even need to ask if people would like to see more? Really? ;)
HALT brings back memories of liquid nitrogen dripping down my back...
No thanks
nice video Thermotron!
That's like getting paid to play. Great job, cool video, thanks.
holy christ please many more of these videos interviewing real engineers
Very cool
What happens to the equipment that survives the tests any for sale?
They typically get used around the building or go into long-term testing
In industry, they are usually taken apart and all parts studied for what the effects were; resistors checked for cracks, caps checked for leaks, BGAs checked for cracks, or taken to more aggressive torture tests.
Why would you want to buy a piece of equipment that's been used for extreme stress testing? That's like asking an auto manufacturer if they'll sell you one of their cars that's been crash tested.
@@TheKnobCalledTone. um, no. Stress test and Crash test is different.
Awesome video
I think you need a "DAY IN THE LIFE OF...." series... for instruments.
The Forrest Gump reference made me chuckle lol
Very familiar environment to me have many years of endurance and standards testing behind me, for Automotive products. Both lab and field test.....
more, please!
2:54 Ohh I didn't know Agilent makes this stuff :D
So I’m talking to you in the past? Son of a gun you figured out time travel. Or did I? So confusing 🤣 thanks Keysight
I like videos about testing! Test is essential to get successful products. Many years ago, a thermal test saved me from a potential embarassing issue. My clever redesign of a analog timer circuit failed the environamental test because it misbehaved below -25C. I was sceptical about the usefulness of this test, it seemed unrealistic to me, but I had to fix the issue anyway with significant part count and cost increase. It eventually turned out that one of the first customers of the product was based in Siberia. I also had a instance where the tests did NOT found out a severe reliability issue. 6 months after the start of the deploy on the fields, devices started to fail. They had to be all warranty fixed or replaced, hundreds of them. A simple additional test could have spotted the issue, but no one thought about it.
It really makes a difference! When things go bad they can go really bad.
One of my fondest experiences early in my career was doing environmental testing on flow computers. We had a product prototype that not only had to be stupidly accurate (a 0.01% error could be the difference of thousands of dollars of product) but was also rated for zone 0 where an explosive atmosphere is likely to be present. The amount of capacitance that was allowed was severely restricted and when running at -60C diminished severely. Getting the thing to run properly, if at all, was a challenge but a rewarding one when we finally got all the issues solved.
My dream as electrical engineer: work at Keysight Technologies Laboratory. Ok I will still dreaming :(
They are hiring now. A little bird told me.
very nice
so cool
More please
More details, please
I love your power supply test rack, just tons of power resistors on a large heat sink wuth 2 pc fans srewed to it XD
There's def a time and a place for an electronic load, and a time and a place for a charcuterie board of power resistors!
7:18 LOL
I plan to be buried with my Keysight scope. This video gives me confidence it will still be here when that day comes. 😄
Show us the world Thermotron. I want to see all the places. You and your big microphone.
🤓🎤
"calibrated golf ball"
Imagine next testing lab tour colab with ElectroBOOM
how much do i pay for working here?
No wonder they are so reliable
Since you asked ... I liked it, and more like this would be just _fine_!
(but I don't think I can handle 19 thousand, nine hundred, and ninety nine more... maybe just stop when you hit 10 thousand)
I saw Forrest, did you too?
Good eye!
I want to work there... so bad
Is is usual that buyers purchase a new Keysight multimeter and get a used one ? Or is that just the case with Keysight Germany and distributor Meilhaus ?
th-cam.com/video/2wPtHoSTvxw/w-d-xo.html
Ist es üblich, dass Käufer ein neues Keysight Multimeter kaufen und ein gebrauchtes erhalten ? Oder ist das nur bei Keysight Deutschland und Meilhaus der Fall ?
That would be very unusual, and I suspect related to the distributor. We do not sell used equipment and call it "new"
quisiera hacer test de equipos para mi canal
I'm an automotive test engineer. We've got some of those toys down here. This is like porn for any test and measurement engineer.
The Doc makes his appearance 😆😆😆