Vespa PX Gearbox oil change
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2024
- How to replace oil on the gearbox of Your Vespa PX.
This video is suitable for the most type of Vespa or LML
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According to Piaggio You should change Your gearbox oil every 8000km / 5000mi or every 12 months.
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You are the only one, showing us how to change the oil. Thanks bro. Nice video.
Thank Tou very much ☺️ 😊😊😊
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Thank you sir! Not is easy find the oil SAE30 but now, before watched your video, I will use the 10w30 for the transmission! From Brasil ( PX 200 1987)
You may read description, Motul suggest an oil for Vespa 10w30.
You may try it, I personally use it 😊😊😊😊
@@CantharusENG thank you sir
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Very well explained.
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Very good and useful piece.
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Vespa mechanic here. First, while SAE 30w NON DETERGENT oil will work in the gearbox, it is not a good idea to use it in warm weather. It tends to lose its viscosity when really hot. Piaggio recommends SAE 75w85 GL4 (NOT GL-5) gear oil. 75w90 works fine too, as long as it is GL-4.
DO NOT use a homemade gasket on the drain plug. That plug is not supposed to use a gasket. It uses a compressible washer. The fill plug uses the same washer. They are very inexpensive. buy a couple dozen of them, and you will never have to worry about it again. Before removing both the drain plug and fill plug, clean off the plug and area around the plug thoroughly. I use spray brake cleaner. I also clean off both plugs after removing them. You don't want dirt in the transmission.
You can use any number of ways to get the new oil in. A syringe works, a tiny funnel, the spout on a gear oil bottle, whatever fits in the small hole. You DO NOT need to measure it. You are supposed to fill it up till it is completely full. The way you did it, you didn't have enough oil to start with, and some of that ran down the side of the case.
Appreciate Your comment.
For the gaskets I was missing the right size and I did it just to fix it temporary, and I showed just to show how to do it in case of emergency.
The tip to clean the plug and the surrounding area is a great tip I will do it from now on Thanks 😃
About the different from synthetic and mineral oil i agree with You but some older Vespa with still some original equipment may experience a shorter life in clutch and some gaskets are in cork and the glue may be deteriorated by the detergent power of the oil (the oil "glass" of the oil tank ha a cork o-ring).
As the fill up Your still right in the Italian video I specified, in English I forgot.
I will make a new video soon with the some correction.
Really Thanks for the time You took sharing Your good Knowledge ❤
Hi. Is this the same 2T oil I put on the tank? Or is a different oil the one I need to find for the change. I’m in Colombia South America and I need some clues as what to search, since it’s very difficult (or very expensive) to find the same things used in the us or eu.
Thanks
@@GnarledSage Are you talking about the oil injection system tank? What year and model is your scooter? If you are talking about the transmission, it needs either 30W non detergent 4 stroke engine oil, or if you can find it, 75w85 or 75w90 gear oil. It needs to be GL-4, not GL-5. GL-5 oil contains additives that can damage the brass and bronze in the bearings of older vehicles. Don't put 2T oil in the transmission. It is much too thin.
Thanks for taking the time to explain this.
Now I know that it’s the gearbox oil the one I should be changing; though some mechanic I asked, said it was not importan to change it if the bike had not being in use, once I told him that the bike had been stored for years. I’m not sure if I trust him on this.
I found online the 75W90 GL-4, sold for cars. I hope this is not an issue and it’s the same oil.
The 30W is cheaper, but, there’s just 30 and a bunch of 30W”X” with different number at the end.
What difference does putting one or the other make? It’s a 1995 Vespa PX150, that was neglected, but, seems to work ok. I’m not sure if this should be taken into consideration too.
@@GnarledSage If you found 75W90 GL-4, use that. That's actually the best oil for an older Vespa transmission. Straight 30W will work, and is what Vespa recommended decades ago. It works ok in cooler climates. But it has to be NON DETERGENT. Regular 30W oil contains detergents that can damage the bearings in the transmission. All 75W90 GL-4 is the same, and is just fine for older Vespa transmissions.
Very helpful, cheers pal
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Hello, I own a 2002 LML Vespa Select II which is India bound but for sure I know it was manufactured by LML & Piaggio, Almost identical to yours by mechanical factors. I was hoping to restore it but i no longer have the owner's manual, hence a little lost from where to start and what steps are necessary. Could use some help.
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Great to watch. Thank you!
Thank You for watching this video 😊
This is very helpfull. Thank you mate!
😊Happy to have Your feedback 😊
Thanks
Pretty good video 👍🏽
Thank you for the tips 🙌🏽
Thank You Very Much :-)
sir do u know any additives which helps in cleaning scooters gearbox like for example - we engine flush to clean engine
A cheap way to do it is to mix some kerosene with gearbox oil (50ml of kerosene and 200ml of gearbox oil ) Run idle few minutes then flush.
Before refill with the oil put 50ml of gearbox oil, run idle 1 minutes to clean the kerosene.
Then make a standard refill of about 250ml of gearbox oil
How often should you change the gearbox oil
According to Piaggio each year or 8000km/5000ml which ever come first.
You may do a little longer (18 month or 12000km/8000ml)
how many kilometers until the next gear oil change? thanks.
According to Piaggio You should change Your gearbox oil every 8000km / 5000mi or every 12 months.
It was also reported on description 😉
@@CantharusENG thanks.
Si ma le viti sono al contrario,quella con scritto olio va messa sul foro di carico, altrimenti cosa serve metterla sotto se non si legge? :)
Verissimo, ottima osservazione 😊
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i get a bad vibration on the front when i apply my front brakes on my vespa px 200 any idea thanks George Australia
Open and see if you have worn drum brake and check also if any object, like broken springs or similar, are out of order.
This is the first things i will check. May be also worn and not symmetric brum on the wheel side.
Let me know 🙂
Hello sir
Am from India🇮🇳
which engine oil you recommend for 2stroke bajaj chetak sir for 2stroke racing and slow drive in motul or any other brand
Fully Synthetic oil is harmful or not sir for bajaj chetak 2stroke...
Hello, thanks for watching the video.
As gearbox oil i suggest this: Motul 5100 10w30 amzn.to/3bLOUvg
As for 2 stroke oil I really recommend You this: amzn.to/3nPwEDl
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What oil is good for gearbox
Gearbox oil according to Motul: amzn.to/3gorMYg, Piaggio say use mineral oil SAE30 but is too old and not easy to find anymore. You may use any motorbike oil 10W30. Don't use car oil since this oil is in contact also with the clutch.
Hello
My vespa is always leaking oil. Can you help me plz with a solution? Make a video about it?
Thanks alot man. :)
I Will try to do it. My suggestion for the time being is to clean it and search where the leak start.
Let me know, I will give You some advise 😉
Sr Which Grade oil u have use in gear box of Vespa px scooter and how much quantity u have use
Piaggio raccomand to use old mineral oil SAE30. Most people use motorbike 10W40 or gearbox oil 80W90. As You prefer. If You are using modified clutch It could be damaged from synthetic oil. So first choise is always SAE30 mineral oi
Quantity is 250ml (1/4 of liter)
I have bajaj chetak scooter ,it is like Vespa Scooter we can 40wgrade and 300 ml
@@SuperRailvlogs9089 Ok, in this case I don't Know. Bajaj Chetak scooter is not sold in Italy.
Sorry 😊
But u know that chetak Scooter is inspired by lml or Vespa body shape
@@SuperRailvlogs9089 I didn't know, But now I know it 😉
How many liter for SS180 and COSA 150? Thank you sir🙏🏻
Cosa is 0.25 Liter, SS180 i guess is the same, not sure. Fill until its come out.
Gasoline 95 Can Harm Two-stroke Vespa?
What is the best oil mixed with gasoline in the tank
95 Gasoline is very good for the Vespa, Lower octane level may be dangerous if Your Vespa is tuned. 2 stroke oil is mandatory at 2% of gasoline.
Where do You live? (i will suggest a good oil sold in Your country)
a Good oil is recommended but Vespa has a very strong engine so don't worry to much.
Sir I have vespa lml 2 stroke.how much ml is used، I have already put it 350ml is it good or not۔۔kindly help me
Should be 250ml
Fill until start to leak from the charging hole.
@@CantharusENG sir it have capacity approx 1.4litre
And also thanku for ur reply♥️♥️♥️
@@SaMeeRmAliK00012 you mean 1/4 litre? Or 1,4 litre??
Good job
Thanks :-)
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@@sc_stratton thanks
How much oil to put in there and what's type oil please
250ml of oil Piaggio say mineral SAE30
You may fill until it drop off which is approx 250ml.
Oil I will check and update a link if you dont find anythings .
amzn.to/3rcgl5u Motul suggest this oil
Hello sir, I'm from Bangladesh. Please help me 🙏.
How many liters of black oil T5 and selat2, 150cc vespa
0,25 liter ;-)
Tnx
How much millilitres should we use to fill the gearbox ??
250ml, You may fill until it's drop off ;-)
150 gr.
Hi .. which Engine Use For Vespa 4 Stroke LML
I only work on Vespa 2T, so I don't know sorry 😔
Hello again is it gear oil or motor oil. ?
You may use motor oil for motorcycles since in the motorcycles the oil lubricate also the gearbox and the clutch. Don't use 2 stroke oil or cars oil
Please tell me how engine quantity for vespa 50 2 stroke
250ml is only gearbox oil, not engine. Engine oil is the 2%oil mix on gasoline
@@CantharusENG thank u very much and please tell me which engine oil u prefer?
@@MuhammadAli-iu5xk mobil, bardahl, motul, Vespa engine is strong any oil is suitable, choose Your favorite 😊
I personally use Bardahl
Sir one more thing please snd me ur what's app or email address i will contact u
I was facing issue with my 50 about pressue
How many grams of vespa bastam motor oil
250gr sir
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Hello sir. Im from Malaysia.. how many liters of black oil for vbb model vespa???
0,250 liter (250cc)
Nice place Malaysia hope to visit once 😃
@@CantharusENG i think 500 liter before for vespa vbb model..
a little bit really only 250liter.. tq sir.. 😃
@@Rambo-zk3iv Well Just fill until leak out from the charge hole and if in excess let it drop. It should be around 250cc or 0,250 liter (1/4 of a liter).
@@CantharusENG tq for your info..
What kind of oil do you suggest? I use a premium mineral oil.. is it ok if i use a fully sunthetic oil?
Piaggio raccomand to use Mineral oil.
In Italy most of people (sometimes I do also) use synthetic oil. So use what You prefer 😉
Cantharus ENG do you suggest 80w90?
@@bisugzzz Yes, in this video I used this Gearbox oil 80W90, and I will use it again 😉
Cantharus ENG i see you used Motul what is the exact model? Graziie again my friend. 😁
@@bisugzzz I used the equivalent of this: www.motul.com/gb/en/products/gear-300-75w90 (mine is older and anymore avalible). This have a lot of apllication car, Bike etc etc
If You have to buy only for Vespa I Suggest You this: www.motul.com/gb/en/products/transoil-expert-10w40, Check description on the link motul say it work up to SAE90.
For Bajaj super how much oil needs we need to put
250ml or You may fill untill the charge hole is leaking which will be the same ammount.
@@CantharusENG I've filled almost 400ml
@@sripadacv Is too much, open the charge cap and wait untill all the excess of oil is went out. The close the charge cap and is done.
The Vespa must be level, in the centerstand is ok, but not in a slope road.
@@CantharusENG thank you
@@sripadacv You are wellcome
How much engine oil to refill?
250ml is not engine but gearbox oil. You may use motorbike oil possible old SAE30 normal engin oil (for cars) oil will wear the clutch
oil capacity ?
250ml
@@CantharusENG oh so so thank you
Berapa cc oli?
250cl of oil
Which oil do you recommend for a vespa px200 1981?
You should use mineral gearbox oil SAE30 or bike oil. Motul 5100 10w30 is suitable according to Motul website.
SAE 30 oil is old and not easy to find
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@@DilipkoumarDavodra You mean the cable for speed instrument?
Which oil do you recommend for lml nv 4 stroke electric start gear scooter?
LML raccomand use oil 10W40.
Use oil for bike, the oil for the car is much different due to the clutch.
@@CantharusENG thanks
@@scentyguy2567 You are welcome 😉
@@CantharusENG for gearbox oil 10w40?
@@mabzgemz4989 amzn.to/3Mm3Uz3 Yes, this oil is for motorbike. Is suitable for gearbox and clutch 😃 Vespa oil SAE30 is an old type of oil, You may upgrade with this. Also Motul recommends this oil
Gear box oil capacity?
250ml
@@CantharusENG only 250ml can lubricating the clutch?
@@vespavespi Yes, the gear it self drag and spray all the oil around the gear and the clutch 🙂.
Piaggio say to use 250 ml on Vespa ☺
@@CantharusENG thanks for your information , do you have any experience using polini clutch friction set? (4 plates) , if you have please let me now , does it still can use 250ml, sae30 mineral oil or must be upgrade the oil specification?
@@vespavespi I don't have experience on Polini or other powerful clutch on Vespa.
I can tell You that in Italy Polini, Malossi, Pinasco, are considered best product, also BGM, S.I.P., Crimaz do good clutch. With Polini and Malossi You never go wrong, especially Malossi the have a special office in wihc they develope and test product by their self.
You may upgrade oil with bike motor Sintetic 10W40. Never use car oil.
Feel free to ask any questions
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@@CantharusENG bro I also have 1984 model vespa
@@huzaifa_baloch9346 nice, is without the separated oil mixer?
@@CantharusENG No, no, there is no separate part of it. We mix Mobil oil , petrol and pour it
@@huzaifa_baloch9346 Good, Nice Vespa they last long 😊
Its engine oil right
Gearbox OIL, and Piaggio say use SAE30 mineral oil. Synthetic oil is good, many people use it (also me), but could damage some clutch.
Can I use sae 40?
Yes, i guess it will not make much difference 🙂
amzn.to/3Mm3Uz3 This oil is for motorbike. Is suitable for gearbox and clutch 😃 Vespa oil SAE30 is an old type of oil, You may upgrade with this. Also Motul recommends this oil.
By the way if You have already SAE40 will be fine
For vespa super, the oil cap. 250ml ?
Which year is Your Vespa? is a New one or old one?
Cantharus ENG old , 1977
And have tips to solve oil leaking from kickstarter , i was change the seal but still leaking
@@dicomaradona9782
Oil should be also 250ml, anyway fill untill start to leak from the filler cap 😉
The following link is a video. It's in Italian, Show how to replace the o ring for the Kickstarter. If You already repleaced once try another with a a different size. He says 2,48/ 2,5 mm depth (don't say the diameter).
th-cam.com/video/iehINX6msCw/w-d-xo.html
Hope to have been usefull.
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Cantharus ENG thank you verymuch for ur suggestion Sir, keep rolling with vespaa
Did you add 2 onzes of oil????
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gear oil grade??
SAE30 mineral oil
@@CantharusENG this grade is not possible to find in our country, our country's people use 20w50 mineral 4 strock motorcycle oil and also some of use pre-mix oil which is jaso fc 2t(united 2t oil ) is this good for scooter ? or should i use 80w-90 gl4 or GL -5 ??
Gracia.
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SAE 10w-30 right???
Piaggio raccomand to use old mineral oil SAE30. Most people use motorbike 10W40 or gearbox oil 80W90 if compatible with clutch (as example Malossi 7.1 oil). As You prefer. If You are not using modified or very old clutch in older model Vespa. It could be damaged from synthetic oil. So first choise is always SAE30 mineral oil
@@CantharusENGwhat kind of clutch will be damaged by the synthetic oil?
@@vespavespi Older clutch made of cork may be damaged due to the glue that melt with the additives of the synthetic oil
@@CantharusENG how about polini clutch set?
@@vespavespi Work well with any type of motorbike oil
Please tell
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Gasoline 95 Can Harm Two-stroke Vespa?
What is the best oil mixed with gasoline in the tank
In Europe we have only 95 and up to 100 octane gasoline, No problem. If Your Vespa is really old may be should be tuned for unleaded fuel.
Lower than 95/92 should be adjusted AFR and may be also the timing