@@talkingtofu excuse me, not everything revolves around bts, got it? The drama is between Min Hee jin and hybe because she things ill it is copying newjeans and she blamed several other groups including aespa for this too.. Where did bts come from? Bts might be targeted somehow but the main issue if of other groups so they should be protected. This drama is not gonna ruin anything of bts but can destroy future of several other groups.
So HYBE really was trying to replace NJ with ILLIT. Shelved for a year and a half? That's pure trash. That "new producer" thing is bs. Clearly, their current producer is fantastic. They 100% know that a year and a half is more than enough time for NJ to be forgotten with how fast the genre moves. They're going to give them the fromis_9 treatment until they can disband them.
If your current producer is fantastic why did he plagiarize Shakatak's Easier said than done to make bubblegum? Aww did he think he won't get caught cuz it's a 40 year old song? Too bad for yall, we already found out
@@fcoderiiz it's not sampling because for you to sample something that music has to be registered that way thats it's allowed to be sampled. In 40years of this songs existence it was never sampled before because it's not free to use like that. Even the original artist said they had no idea about this but that it sounds VERY similar. That should raise alarmbells but yall are out here cleaning up after NJ's 🍑
what's lacking with the current newjeans producer 250? he produced some of the best and successful newjeans songs like attention, hype boy and ditto that even won them many awards! at this point we all know the "searching for a grammy award winning producer" is just a pretense for hybe to shelve newjeans in the hybe basement like they did to fromis_9.🙄😒 fvck hybe!!!🖕🏽😡🖕🏽
I can't believe a most successful girl group from Hybe who are literal teenagers are getting that treatment from the Hybe's CEO, they don't deserve to be disrespected
@@KingKikikoi The investment for ILLIT was 160 Million Dollars. Bighit last year had a Profit of 98 Million Dollars. So ILLIT did Cost more then Bighit made in a whole ass year
a american choreographer literally came out before illit debut and said that illit stole their choreography and never gave credit, and what did HYBE do? nothing. so, not surprised whatsoever seeing them plagiarize more group dances too. doing all this and can’t have stable vocals is wild.🤷🏽♀️
see, i hate how y’all come for illit and then end the message by saying something about their vocals. YES, their vocals aren’t as good as they should be, should they improve? yes. But what’s the need for you to drag illit down for no reason? no your not blaming the people who copied it and made illit dance to it, no instead ur dragging the girls down for no reason. Y’all the type of people who make idols kill themselves and then cry after
Y'all be saying the same thing... "ThEir VoCALs aRE NoT gOOd" "thEY shOULd PrAcTice TheIR VoCaLs" like... We know their vocals aren't good but this is getting out of hand.
The staff behind Hybe is embarrassing themselves week after week. This just might be the era of their downfall. I honestly wouldn’t be mad if Hybe went down and all the group stayed with their respective companies
I don't know how you think all the respective companies under hybe will not get affected after hybe tumbles and just continue as usual. But hey things will get messy cause where do you think Source, Pledis, Bighit or Ador are getting all that investment from?
bang sh*t is getting greedier and greedier. He shouldn't have his owm girl group especially if they can't sing and plagiarize their own small labeled group.
If ILLIT's team is doing all these then that's a very strong proof that HYBE did rushed the creation of ILLIT to replace NJ. HYBE stans keep on using 'Everyone is doing that choreo' as an excuse when even a foreign choreographer Kelly Sweeney called them out for using her choreo without permission?! absurd! Just admit that ILLIT's team lacks creativity because the more you deny it the more it damages the groups reputation because of their past allegations of plagiarism coming to surface all over again.
Doesnt matter. Theyre under different labels, no? Illit is illit and Newjeans is Newjeans. I think it its outrageous tht they want to replace nj when they've just barely begun. @georgeallen4007
@@georgeallen4007just think about it. They're planning to put the girls on a 1.5 yr hiatus for what? To further promote illit without the competition of their popular seniors getting in the way. Im not trying to hate on illit, but its very clear to me what hybe is orchestrating
@@Zee_00001 ador is owned by hybe . Hybe owns the rights to new jeans therefore anything that new jeans puts out is owned by hybe . Hybe can do whatever it wants .
Come on it's no secret that Dispatch is paid by Hybe. Like how the Dispatch never revealed anything related to Hybe. Always have either on Hybe side or didn't speak anything about it. Hybe has been paying Dispatch that's why none Hybe idol ever had any dating rumours by Dispatch. Or else Bts is such a big group you believe Dispatch can catch anyone they won't try to catch on those boys?
Are you kidding? Before military, Taehyung had been *bombarded* with dating rumors and Jungkook had a new fling everytime he got photographed in low quality areas with terrible lighting. Being paid off would mean no reports or photographs of any kind. The thing (I assume) with dispatch is they like to find dirty lots of dirt of interest and BTS at that time were boring with nothing "scandalous" to report out.
If it is that easy to "pay Dispatch" why isn't everyone doing it? Only Hybe can afford it? (Could be true, I have no clue) Also: if it's not about idols' private life but about business stuff - wouldn't that be considered corruption to pay journalists to not do their job?
Maybe because dispatch cant find dirt agaisnt bts in the past just maybe...unlike other idols...because bts is busy working & making songs. and if youre not aware there has been reports & gossip made about them its not just worth the buzz🤷♀️
@@Aelist12dude they're worshipping him and the boys not stanning. I was called a hater, pressed AND a delulu for just criticising the COMPANY not bts. I don't even care about bts so i wouldn't throw hate but their company is using underhanded means and are hiding behind bts and army 🤷🏼♀️
I feel bad for WinWin it's not like he has control over his schedules. people are so toxic, desperate, and obsessive it's so annoying, derespctful, and disappointed. Leave the poor idols alone they can't always do what people want.
With the Winwin situation, I think there is more to it than anyone might know. I think one of biggest issue is when Winwin was actually notified of the change to the comeback date schedule and him being told that he would not be in the comeback. All we know is that when he accepted the first drama, there was no group activity. There is no public statement from either Winwin or SM as to when he actually knew that he would not be in the comeback. No one knows when he accepted the guest role for the second drama - was it before or after him knowing his status in this comeback. As for his absence in the recent music festival in China, no one knows why. The only statement was from WayV official/SM simply stating 5 members and their names. Also, WayV official/SM already put out a statement only 5 members for an event in Japan in July(this was made public by WayV official before his studio's or bar announcement to his work in China) so I am also curious as to the status of Winwin's participation in the 3rd qtr Japanese mini album and yet unannounced tour. Has it already been decided by WayV official/SM that he is out for both upcoming activities because of him not being in this comeback? I absolutely know nothing regarding the contract between Winwin and SM, but it's kind of hard to believe that the contract would be so lienient as to allow the signee-Winwin to decide whether he will partcipate or not participate in an activity or to do personal schedule without their consent even if it's his own studio which I think is something like his own label.
Every thing about illit is unoriginal, and it’s absolutely not those girls fault, they took a choreographers choreo without crediting the choreographer, every single rollout they have had has been linked to someone or some group the copycat label is stuck with them I fear, no matter what they do people would look for anything to compare with other groups, sad for them though. But hybe should be blamed he’s looking for a quick cash grab without doing any hard work.
Yeah people think these fans are actually mad at the girls but using logic, you can tell most fans are mad at these companies rather than the idols themselves. I feel bad for these girls but they also need to face the reality that they’re on a tightrope themselves bc of choices they made.
Look how she keeps bringing up plagiarism accusations against illit on every illit video but would NOT mention that NewJeans plagiarized UK band Shakatak's 'Easier said that done' song for bubblegum. Instead she is talking about that lucky girl syndrome accusation for a freaking dance move, mentioning as if this is a new accusation when in reality it's been more than a week since that came up. But for actual MUSICAL plagiarism done By NJ, she's silent. This channel is definitely on MHJ side. I'm sure MHJ contacted her. This vid was just confirmation for me lol
@@madkmadk6809I don't think you even know the whole story or understand why MHJ is upset. MHJ spend so much time and money on NJ with BSH and they were promised by him to debut. BSH however thought they would flop and therefore delayed their debut. instead they debuted Lesserafim and labeled them as HYBEs Global gg. MHJ was promised during this time that after they had gotten Lsfm debuted they would focus on nwjns but they didn't which caused the Members and their families to worry, mind you it was delayed for a whole year and a half. So this caused MHJ to take it into her own hands and BSH was jealous that they blew up without his input and help so he made ILLIT to make a new nwjns that he had creative control over. Wouldn't you be mad if someone, who told you your ideas were bad, stole your idea? Plus if you look at the budget difference Nwjns had only 16billion krw spent on them but ILLIT had 500billion krw. Can you now see the blatant plagiarism and disregard of nwjns and MHJ hard work? (Sorry for the long explanation but I just wanted you to understand the situation)
@@seventeenisfunnyaf MHJ spent her time sure. But she wasn't the one who spent 'so much money' on NJ. It was given from the company. She even admitted herself in her presscon that starting her own company was the right thing to do but she didn't start her own company and instead joined hybe to debut a gg because "if you start on your own money, you become poor". She didn't have the business mindset from the get go. You gotta learn to take risks in business. Even she knew it was a risk. She keeps saying it's not about money but her own words prove that it's definitely mostly about money cuz she didn't wanna take the risk and probably become poor. That's very contradictory. Bang pd wasn't like her, he started his own company and even went bankrupt but did with his own company instead of joining as a sublabel of money backed kakao or SM. He got so many offers to sell BTS(even to SM) but he didn't because he was a risk taker and knew his business well. If you work for a company anything you build as an employee, any creative output becomes the company's intellectual property or IP. You can't get emotional over your works success and get upset and scream plagiarism or stealing if someone else from the same company does something remotely similar with that formula because that idea belongs to the company now as the company's IP. It's her fault for not starting her own independent company and trademarking copyrights to every single hairstyle, hair color, dress, dance move since she wanted to be petty and wanted everything to be hers only so bad. Do you know how ridiculous it sounds? At the time NJ debuted LSF didn't have a huge budget like illit either, do you know why? Because source music was at the risk of bankruptcy and they had to debut some group with more assurance to popularity first before taking a huge risk like NJ in order to earn some money. And debuting someone already popular was the safe and right business move for that. Now the company has way more money than that year that's why illit got this much budget. I don't get why debuting first is so important to NJ. They didn't have even nearly as hard as other idols with their waiting peruod. There are idols who get their debuts pushed back to 7-8 years(jihyo, bang chan) and even 11years(aisha) but you don't see them throwing a fit over it and they are all successful now. Compared to that NewJeans waiting period was nothing. Yet they are still complaining and still stuck over the past. It seems they just can't accept the fact that they are not the 1st in everything and they are not getting every single thing in life. Getting upset over not being greeted/bowed back by a decades older senior. This should frankly be a life lesson to them as to why you can't have everything your way as a rookie and especially as an employee. Might not be rainbows and unicorns but that's how the idol business works. Jihyo got her debut pushed back 3 times. Bang chan got his debut pushed back 2 times. Yet they are still humble to JYP. Cuz they know that promises can fall through, it wasn't written as part of their trainee contracts that 'you get to debut 1st,you get to debut at this exact date and the company ceo will always bow to you cuz you're just that important' and that's why they don't make a fuss. It wasn't written in NJ trainee contract too but they are acting like it was. And talking about jealousy, if bang pd is jealous, then MHJ is more jealous than anyone on the industry right now. She's jealous that Illit became successful earlier than NJ did. Otherwise she wouldn't have screamed plagiarism. She'd be silent if illit flopped. That concept she keeps claiming that NJ and MHJ owns, after NJ a few nugu groups like triples did it too but she didn't raise a issue because she had nothing to be jealous of as they weren't successful. Not to mention she herself keeps copying other kpop and jpop acts(and now even uk acts) but she has a problem with illit doing it
@@madkmadk6809 you've made some very valid points that I agree with. The point about the company giving money if you looked at the figures, Not confirmed I just stumbled upon it so don't rely on me for this, in terms of the budget for Nwjns they were given 16billion won but ILLIT were given 500billion which shows where Hybe were focused on placing their investments. She spent so much time on the girls so she, as a trainer, grew to care for them and when they were promised to debut she obviously wanted to try her best to make it happen bc she had faith in them which BSH did not have. He , as someone who has been through a similar situation as her, should have been understanding enough to either give her the motivation and aid her rather than do what everyone else was doing to BTS when they were in the same situation and deemed as flops. Everything else I completely agree with though
And this Army still protecting this Hybe ceo 😂 and making fun of min heejin. He even didnt respect the parents 🤦♂️ it really show that he really like illit thats why he paying for those awards shows so that illit can get a win.
they don’t have to if they are always on top of the charts… if y’all don’t stop listening they won’t start making them sing live because you’re still filling their pockets. use your brain.
honestly i do think that HYBE are acting so overwhelmingly arrogant. even the big 3, even YG, as dont gaf of them to fans demand still care about public opinion. but hybe are really not only ignoring it but also acting brave on it. this give me a goosebumps on how long has their hand already reach in the industry to the point they might able to act like a tyrant. idk why I kinda felt bad for bts, when this grouo has a taste of how it feel being played around by people in power in that industry now their company using the power they give to do the same to other.
I really hope everything goes well for BTS when they come back. It's sad that when they come back the company that they built up is gonna be like this. As an ARMY it really makes me sad.
I don't get it. What's wrong with min heejin being emotional for HER own group. She made the concept, selected the members, brought up the choreographers, and many more. She has every right to be protective about her group. And that 1 1/2 yrs "vacation" is pure bs. HYBE is trying to sideline nwjns so that people start to blend them into the crowd and focus only on their two most untalented groups illit and lsf. I can just hope nwjns doesn't get drained like gfriend or formis9.
is the success of hybe getting into BSH’s head? did he forget what all they went through in the past? it’s only because of bts’ success that hybe was established
Bang PD is just at creative fraud at this point. I'm not supporting neither groups but seeing him being in declining his reputation day by day is just speechless.
please do not doubt of winwins desire to be with wayv he constantly remind people to support WAYV, he always shows love he also explain that he tried to arrange something so he could take part of the album but with all the filming of the drama they couldn't arrange anything and he felt sorry, wayv also has reminded everyone that winwin juggle his schedules and tries to participate but things are not always over his control, wayv also mentioned how important is winwin to the group so please don't forget he loves his jobs
Money doesn't change you. It just reveals who you really are. Bang Si-hyuk sounds like an ***hole. It's basic manners to say hello back to someone who greets you. Doesn't take a lot of effort. Either he honestly didn't recognise her and thinks he's above saying hello to someone who greets him or he recognised her and ignored her. Either way, he's an ***hole.
No way Jose… and y’all still thinking Min Hee Jin is the evil head who wants to govern the whole world. Stop being so naive and open your eyes, Hybe is doing everything and when I say everything this includes nasty ways of trying to erase NewJeans from the public eye. I don’t blame ILLIT for copying, this is SouMu’s fault and mediocre brains, letting once again Bang taking the lead. And now who will take all of the consequences will be their groups just because a nasty bunch of greedy people like Bang. Even if they don’t have good vocals, those groups need to be protected, BTS and TXT also need to be respected and well treated since Soobin almost fell in stage because of tiredness. How irresponsible of Hybe.
@@LuraMarry-be7kt Nah Seventeen is just good on their own and Pledis is striving because of them. It's Hybe that needs Seventeen, that's why they accuired Pledis. Get your facts right. You people sure have zero knowledge and don't do any fact findings before talking.
HYBE wnt to far this time, with debuteing illit, litterly kids, without training and the needed time, setting them up for hate, copying NewJeans and ( i was shocked ) takeing a whole choreography from a really well know and talented choregrpher without credit and selling it as their own dance performance.... hybe is so money focused and silly, that they have to steal other concepts and choreos just cause they cant come up with something own...
But Hybe is just services for companies under them, ill’it is under Be-lift lab…Be-lift lab is responsible for managing them correctly….each companies have their team that are supposed to work for their group, music, concept, styles choreography etc it’s all under the companies duties…so don’t blame Hybe if it is not in their duties to do so…people these days are easy to criticize
@@msbebelle07 Hybe is the majority shareholder of all those subsidiaries and Bang PD was involved in ILLIT's album, so of course Hybe is responsible for this entire circus.
Im not a fearnot but this is really went too far ... like the constructive criticism in a respectful way was okey but now so many Haters are just using it as a pretext to throw hate toward lee sserafim girls
Exactly! win win has never really been givin an opportunity to shine as an idol😒 so if he does leave, these so called “fans” need to understand his talent is being wasted. And if he fully does acting he should be able to. Mans was snatched from nct127 to be put in wavyv to only get one line🤣 sometimes I forget win win is even still apart of the franchise. ( no shade )
It seems that Hybe can do whatever he wants and not be held accountable by any authority. This is very strange. This company is run by very arrogant people since they won't admit their (intentional) mistakes and fix what they've ruined. It is terrible to commit injustices and move on as if nothing happened. This is clear evidence that this company is run by extremely toxic people who cannot stand the truth. I have no words to describe how disgusted I am with the corruption displayed by Hybe.
@@Kpop_stay_hehe the first quarterly profit of hybe was released yesterday and bighit is the largest contributor, the svt etc even lessarafirm earns much more than new jeans...
It’s Not Illit that is copying it’s their team and HYBE Illit are innocent in this HYBE just got trainees debuted them to early and isn’t even protecting them it’s basically like he wanted drama between New jeans and Illit
my heart truly breaks for both newjeans and illit that they are being dragged into all of this and getting so much hate, but especially illit because they JUST debuted and are already getting into controversies:( i really hope this isnt taking a toll on both groups and that they will both be okay after this clears
why looking for another producer for newjeans when they won song of the year with ditto? I think this is just a excuse cause the music is soo good that is why they are so popular
hybe became way too greedy they didn't get on top step by step they skipped a few learning experiences hence all these wrong decisions, lapses and impatience will be the cause of their downfall
Y'all need to give these idols a break. It's like you're forgetting the su*cide rate of the k-entertainment industry. Your words have power and weight, even when you hide behind internet anonymity.
if copying a Y2k concept from New Jeans considered plagiarism, then 50% of kpop groups should be jailed lol, this is ridiculous, New Jeans probably already planned to move out of the Y2k concept for their next album anyways
Smells of misogyny and outright greed to me. Doesn't seem like HYBE is expending that much effort, care, proper vocal training, and support to their female groups as opposed to the male groups. Imo
because sampling songs is nothing new? LOL like are you kidding me..? there's a ckear difference between sampling a song (which would require legal approval from the owner of the sampled track) and mimicing another recently debuted girl group's debut outline, which they are very clearly not okay with, and using it for themselves (from the marketing materials / designs, to hiring the EXACT SAME PEOPLE who worked on and ONLY on newjeans' debut) to the point where it genuinely caused the two groups to get misidentified as one another.... Are you stupid or what? like why does this need to be explained to you? use your head before commenting on youtube ffs
I think Minji got a boyfriend and broke the company dating rules, that's why bang pd was a bit harsh on her group and showing strictness by not greeting
Winwin should just focus on acting cos he barely has any lines in wayV songs I wish SM would've just redebuted wayv in a different nct unit focusing on Korea
He barely has lines cause he isn’t a good singer nor seems to try to improve his skills. Guess he’s just much more into acting instead being a performer
@@lu5423this. He didn't improve at all since 2016, unfortunately. And SM focuses on vocals and not dancing. Even Sehun and Taemin improved a lot, so why not WinWin?
The thing is SM kind of sidelines underatted idols. Check their units, they normally put the idols who are most popular. So maybe he got sick of it. I just hope he is okay, and he should do what he wants most I think
I think people seem to forget the mistreatment Winwin has faced since he joined NCT. From being a permanent part of NCT127 to being pulled out without any announcement or explanation. "Not being a good singer" is ridiculous. No one is asking for a ton of lines, a few lines would be good enough but he doesnt get anything. Even a little screen time would suffice. Also Winwin is definitely on the same level as Sehun so don't even go there. "SM focuses on vocals" is again nonsense because SM was the one who casted Winwin in China, where he had a stable career, brought him and debuted him in Korea. They basically unhinged his life just to treat him like shit. Good for him that he's focusing his efforts on acting. It's not like WayV themselves get treated well either. They're the worst treated unit in NCT.
Look how she keeps bringing up plagiarism accusations against illit on every illit video but would NOT mention that NewJeans plagiarized UK band Shakatak's 'Easier said that done' song for bubblegum. Instead she is talking about that lucky girl syndrome accusation for a freaking dance move, mentioning as if this is a new accusation when in reality it's been more than a week since that came up. But for actual MUSICAL plagiarism done By NJ, she's silent. This channel is definitely on MHJ side. I'm sure MHJ contacted her. This vid was just confirmation for me lol
When Min Hee Jin gets fired at the end of the month, I wouldn't be surprised if HYBE folded Ador altogether. Seeing as how they basically created the company so MHJ could run it.
PD Bang didn't recognize & didn't greet a teenage trainee pre debut BTS Taehyung when he met him several times before...he def has some sort of 'face blindness' lmao...
To all the people who are blindly believing Min Hee Jin .. Remember Hybe is the only one who is providing real evidence and proof in this issue. Unlike Min hee jin whose only evidences are some screenshots of old chats , a email 'assumed ' to be written by the parents of new jeans. , some members feeling sad just because a ceo didn’t greet her etc.. 😂 I am not saying Hybe is innocent but that doesn’t make Min Hee Jin the good lady here. She was trying to take over the company and when hybe found out she diverted the media attention saying Illit copied New Jeans. She is a manipulative lady. And all those whose are saying about mistreatments towards new jeans .. how did they get all this sponsorship and brads within days after their debut.. ofcourse hybe helped them to get it..
HYBE paid for NJ's choreo. They OWN the choreo. WTF don't u people understand. MHJ throws out emotional manipulation, never pertinent FACTS. LAW is justice specifically because it dispels emotional biases.
yeah that's obviously not how it works. are you sure you know much about the judiciary system in south korea? because you type like you're 11 years old. why are you wasting your time writing comments on youtube when you clearly have no idea what is going on.... it doesnst make any sense. just do something more productive with your time. go study for your algebra quiz
I think LSF needs to focus on individual endeavors now and participate in variety shows and establish individual personalities once again to break away from their unfavorable current image.
You could offer the same advice to NewJeans, now that all their "original" content has been found to be copycats of other groups: music, slogan, mv, clothes, etc. Or, we could just appreciate the hard work these groups put in, ask that their producers/managers do a better job, and have some compassion.
@@theo67-ft3yx I have been more than compassionate to them than many others because they seem like genuinely good individuals who are not totally not control of their situation. Your comment trying to pass off/deflect blame to another group just solidifies the fact how much LSF needs to work to improve themselves. This video segment was about LSF and not anyone else, bringing other groups is irrelevant and just shows how much toxic some people are to bring their hate and contempt to places where it's totally unnecessary. The plagiarism allegation mentioned in this video is still new and the facts are developing but I see you bashing the original group and not mentioning their little sister group who have copied them in various aspects, making me think you are just a company stan. My comment just consisted opinions without personally bashing or attacking any member individually, because when a group is in between comebacks usually they try to build up their individual images. Certain members have very bad public images and this can benefit them. Being a blind fan does no one any good.
Restrictions on newjeans' activities will result in reduced payments from HYBE to MHJ. ADOR is also not a 100% subsidiary. I suspect that this is one of the reasons behind the various actions of the HYBE group this year. We don't want artists to suffer because of management or politics.
Making newjeans wait for 1 year and 6 months for a Grammy winning producer is dumb af... why can't they releasing music during the period that they looking for that producer??
Good for Hybe's CEO for keeping his distance, that way there's no chance of him being accused of inappropriate behavior with anyone. more Hollywood ppl ( like the Harveys weinsteins, the josh pecks and the nickelodeon dans of the world) should follow his example and ignore the young talent specially if they are extremely young, vulnerable or minors. sorry but I do not see anything wrong with Hybes CEO keeping his distance from the talent. and like this other channel mentioned (Korean culture and news I think is called), this was a missed opportunity for the adults in the room to teach a valuable lesson to the girls about how to handle this type of situations, which in the end is best for them and their safety. kudos to hybe
Hybe run the future for ILLIT because they have so much potential but they just copying new jeans everything and not using their true talent ( potential)
it's funny and sad at the same time that half of problems in kpop now is just only hybe
Its because people are jealous of bts success thats why they want hybe to be down so bad. #ProtectBTS
@@talkingtofu excuse me, not everything revolves around bts, got it?
The drama is between Min Hee jin and hybe because she things ill it is copying newjeans and she blamed several other groups including aespa for this too..
Where did bts come from? Bts might be targeted somehow but the main issue if of other groups so they should be protected. This drama is not gonna ruin anything of bts but can destroy future of several other groups.
@@talkingtofugrow up looser
Don't drag bts on everything
That's embarrassing
@@talkingtofu girl shut up. BTS aren't even that relevant, other groups like lesserafim are getting most of the hate not them..
@@artiee80 hybe is bts. without bts money, your little groups wont survive.
This Hybe thing a whole Kdrama Netflix will make in the future
For sure 😁
Deadass a documentary
Wow so many likes thanks
Lol🤣🤣🤣
Frrr😂😂😂 I agree 😂
So HYBE really was trying to replace NJ with ILLIT. Shelved for a year and a half? That's pure trash. That "new producer" thing is bs. Clearly, their current producer is fantastic. They 100% know that a year and a half is more than enough time for NJ to be forgotten with how fast the genre moves. They're going to give them the fromis_9 treatment until they can disband them.
If your current producer is fantastic why did he plagiarize Shakatak's Easier said than done to make bubblegum? Aww did he think he won't get caught cuz it's a 40 year old song? Too bad for yall, we already found out
@@madkmadk6809lol you again? It's sampled not plagiarized 😂 There were other songs sampled from ESTD as well aside from Bubblegum lol
@@fcoderiiz it's not sampling because for you to sample something that music has to be registered that way thats it's allowed to be sampled. In 40years of this songs existence it was never sampled before because it's not free to use like that. Even the original artist said they had no idea about this but that it sounds VERY similar. That should raise alarmbells but yall are out here cleaning up after NJ's 🍑
@@madkmadk6809 ok. LOLOLOLOLOL 😂
what's lacking with the current newjeans producer 250? he produced some of the best and successful newjeans songs like attention, hype boy and ditto that even won them many awards! at this point we all know the "searching for a grammy award winning producer" is just a pretense for hybe to shelve newjeans in the hybe basement like they did to fromis_9.🙄😒
fvck hybe!!!🖕🏽😡🖕🏽
HYBE's plan is disband Newjeans, its replacement is ILLIT, and Min Hee Jin wants to remove her from ADOR and put her on a blacklist.
He’s taking orders from HYBE, wherever NJ is doing, so that too!
@@SebastianBovesOop Just like Hybe replaced Gfriend with Le Sserafim
free newjeans and fromis_9!!
@@SebastianBoveskinda see this happening
I can't believe a most successful girl group from Hybe who are literal teenagers are getting that treatment from the Hybe's CEO, they don't deserve to be disrespected
HYBE trying to put NewJeans on a hiatus is unbelievable. It shows that the CEO is trying to make ILLIT the Highlight of there company.
It's not official.
real
Worst part, illit is even not that good.
Because he named them after Ilchi Lee his lord lol 😅
thats not true
All those million dollar investment just for plagiarism?
160 Million Dollars for two songs which are not original at all. Funny right?
@@tnjh5512 If (BIG BIG BIG IF) part of that was skewered or embezzled???? ... thats kinda ingenious!
That hard earned BTS money down the toilet on shabby clones 🤮
@@KingKikikoi The investment for ILLIT was 160 Million Dollars. Bighit last year had a Profit of 98 Million Dollars. So ILLIT did Cost more then Bighit made in a whole ass year
@@tnjh5512 no way man , how can two songs or even an entire group investment cost that much. Are you sure that's in dollars and not wons
a american choreographer literally came out before illit debut and said that illit stole their choreography and never gave credit, and what did HYBE do? nothing. so, not surprised whatsoever seeing them plagiarize more group dances too. doing all this and can’t have stable vocals is wild.🤷🏽♀️
Yeah I remember this, weird how those news suddenly disappeared
see, i hate how y’all come for illit and then end the message by saying something about their vocals. YES, their vocals aren’t as good as they should be, should they improve? yes. But what’s the need for you to drag illit down for no reason? no your not blaming the people who copied it and made illit dance to it, no instead ur dragging the girls down for no reason. Y’all the type of people who make idols kill themselves and then cry after
@@ikiigaiiAgreed, it’s just hypocritical at this point.
She was paid by Min he Jin to do that. Don't believe in baseless rumours
Y'all be saying the same thing... "ThEir VoCALs aRE NoT gOOd" "thEY shOULd PrAcTice TheIR VoCaLs" like... We know their vocals aren't good but this is getting out of hand.
6:57 vacation for an idol group lasting a year and a half? that’s insane like isnt that basically hiatus? lmao
Yea it is a hiatus hybe hates NJS for no reason
That's a prelude for disbandment. Since NJ is actually a new group, they debuted in July 2022.
@@Hi-yf3qqHybe hates Newjeans, Fromis_9, and Gfriend
It's just hearsay at this point.
They doing the same thing with gfriend and disband them after its actually scary for nj
The staff behind Hybe is embarrassing themselves week after week. This just might be the era of their downfall. I honestly wouldn’t be mad if Hybe went down and all the group stayed with their respective companies
LOUDER!!
Yes, awesome
If you are disrespecting HYBE you are also disrespecting BTS so think twice before saying anything
@@frvrrr7 disrespecting Hybe is not disrespectting BTS don’t be dumb. Please stop being embarrassing omg
I don't know how you think all the respective companies under hybe will not get affected after hybe tumbles and just continue as usual. But hey things will get messy cause where do you think Source, Pledis, Bighit or Ador are getting all that investment from?
😶🌫Ngl HYBE's updates are getting worse and worse.
Bang Hippo done messed up now 😂
bang sh*t is getting greedier and greedier. He shouldn't have his owm girl group especially if they can't sing and plagiarize their own small labeled group.
ao childish for ignoring new jeans. Your an adult man lol. poor girls. what a jealous man.
and we here for it 😂
Media play for getting attention their vocals are ass the media play is the only way to get relevant
If ILLIT's team is doing all these then that's a very strong proof that HYBE did rushed the creation of ILLIT to replace NJ. HYBE stans keep on using 'Everyone is doing that choreo' as an excuse when even a foreign choreographer Kelly Sweeney called them out for using her choreo without permission?! absurd! Just admit that ILLIT's team lacks creativity because the more you deny it the more it damages the groups reputation because of their past allegations of plagiarism coming to surface all over again.
Hybe literally owns the rights to both new jeans and illit lmao😂 . People acting like some other company stealing from Ador 😂
Doesnt matter. Theyre under different labels, no? Illit is illit and Newjeans is Newjeans. I think it its outrageous tht they want to replace nj when they've just barely begun. @georgeallen4007
@@georgeallen4007just think about it. They're planning to put the girls on a 1.5 yr hiatus for what? To further promote illit without the competition of their popular seniors getting in the way. Im not trying to hate on illit, but its very clear to me what hybe is orchestrating
@@Zee_00001 ador is owned by hybe . Hybe owns the rights to new jeans therefore anything that new jeans puts out is owned by hybe . Hybe can do whatever it wants .
@@georgeallen4007nahhh that’s a bad mindset
Come on it's no secret that Dispatch is paid by Hybe. Like how the Dispatch never revealed anything related to Hybe. Always have either on Hybe side or didn't speak anything about it. Hybe has been paying Dispatch that's why none Hybe idol ever had any dating rumours by Dispatch. Or else Bts is such a big group you believe Dispatch can catch anyone they won't try to catch on those boys?
Are you kidding? Before military, Taehyung had been *bombarded* with dating rumors and Jungkook had a new fling everytime he got photographed in low quality areas with terrible lighting. Being paid off would mean no reports or photographs of any kind. The thing (I assume) with dispatch is they like to find dirty lots of dirt of interest and BTS at that time were boring with nothing "scandalous" to report out.
If it is that easy to "pay Dispatch" why isn't everyone doing it? Only Hybe can afford it? (Could be true, I have no clue) Also: if it's not about idols' private life but about business stuff - wouldn't that be considered corruption to pay journalists to not do their job?
Yeah it's been rumored for years that Dispatch is being paid by Hybe.
Maybe because dispatch cant find dirt agaisnt bts in the past just maybe...unlike other idols...because bts is busy working & making songs. and if youre not aware there has been reports & gossip made about them its not just worth the buzz🤷♀️
@@whiteRiceSupremacist Romoured being the narrative here nowadays i don't trust anything until i see evidence
I can't believe that Illits stylists, choereographers etc are doing them so dirty :(
fr! but it’s not the girls fault it’s the people behind the scenes
it’s bang pd setting them up creating them to only make newjeans and ador uncomfortable
@@bjorkhorsemanall the big 4 founders are trash
@@arumhas Srsly respected Bang PD, but ig he is gonna go in the trash can lower than the big 3s ig near Cube or maybe Ahn Joon-young etc
Bang si hyuk ignoring newjeans while they are the most successful gg in hybe is crazy…god i hate hybe…i feel bad for the groups in that company:(
right? That's what I've been saying and those mindless Hybe Stan still trying to cover up for BSH.
@@eslnter good god you’re so patient to even speak with the hybe stans , they’re absolute nightmares 😅
@@eslnter I don't understand why anyone would stan a greedy and arrogant man like Bang Si Hyuk..
@@yasminchan7425because he created bts that's why otherwise people don't stan him i think
@@Aelist12dude they're worshipping him and the boys not stanning. I was called a hater, pressed AND a delulu for just criticising the COMPANY not bts. I don't even care about bts so i wouldn't throw hate but their company is using underhanded means and are hiding behind bts and army 🤷🏼♀️
I feel bad for WinWin it's not like he has control over his schedules. people are so toxic, desperate, and obsessive it's so annoying, derespctful, and disappointed.
Leave the poor idols alone they can't always do what people want.
Gurl winwin signs these contracts for them to be on schedule
@Everythingz127 but still, fans can't just get mad at him. It's his own decision . He can't always do what they want, and he doesn't have to.
What I love is that despite all this HYBE drama, AESPA, IVE and Babymonster are thriving tbh and theyre bringing back the Kpop Sound
I’m waiting for Newjeans to join them with their comeback, just girl groups who’s idols can sing live 💫
Aespa 🫱🏻🫲🏼Ive 🫱🏻🫲🏼Baemon🫱🏻🫲🏼 NWJNS
Kpop sound?🤦 kpop stans really are dumb
@@alphabetboy8569 yes!!!
@@alphabetboy8569 same, newjeans will come back stronger than ever
they spread rumors in aespa and ive then wants them to be allies😂
With the Winwin situation, I think there is more to it than anyone might know. I think one of biggest issue is when Winwin was actually notified of the change to the comeback date schedule and him being told that he would not be in the comeback. All we know is that when he accepted the first drama, there was no group activity. There is no public statement from either Winwin or SM as to when he actually knew that he would not be in the comeback. No one knows when he accepted the guest role for the second drama - was it before or after him knowing his status in this comeback. As for his absence in the recent music festival in China, no one knows why. The only statement was from WayV official/SM simply stating 5 members and their names. Also, WayV official/SM already put out a statement only 5 members for an event in Japan in July(this was made public by WayV official before his studio's or bar announcement to his work in China) so I am also curious as to the status of Winwin's participation in the 3rd qtr Japanese mini album and yet unannounced tour. Has it already been decided by WayV official/SM that he is out for both upcoming activities because of him not being in this comeback? I absolutely know nothing regarding the contract between Winwin and SM, but it's kind of hard to believe that the contract would be so lienient as to allow the signee-Winwin to decide whether he will partcipate or not participate in an activity or to do personal schedule without their consent even if it's his own studio which I think is something like his own label.
Every thing about illit is unoriginal, and it’s absolutely not those girls fault, they took a choreographers choreo without crediting the choreographer, every single rollout they have had has been linked to someone or some group the copycat label is stuck with them I fear, no matter what they do people would look for anything to compare with other groups, sad for them though. But hybe should be blamed he’s looking for a quick cash grab without doing any hard work.
Yeah people think these fans are actually mad at the girls but using logic, you can tell most fans are mad at these companies rather than the idols themselves. I feel bad for these girls but they also need to face the reality that they’re on a tightrope themselves bc of choices they made.
They make tiktok music. Sorry
Dispatch is mad that HYBE isn’t sharing anything with them 😂
Hybe deserves this. Even the idols should sue them for literally ruining them up
S tem kar si objavil se bo uničil K-POP v Koreji.
Look how she keeps bringing up plagiarism accusations against illit on every illit video but would NOT mention that NewJeans plagiarized UK band Shakatak's 'Easier said that done' song for bubblegum. Instead she is talking about that lucky girl syndrome accusation for a freaking dance move, mentioning as if this is a new accusation when in reality it's been more than a week since that came up. But for actual MUSICAL plagiarism done By NJ, she's silent.
This channel is definitely on MHJ side. I'm sure MHJ contacted her. This vid was just confirmation for me lol
@@madkmadk6809I don't think you even know the whole story or understand why MHJ is upset.
MHJ spend so much time and money on NJ with BSH and they were promised by him to debut. BSH however thought they would flop and therefore delayed their debut. instead they debuted Lesserafim and labeled them as HYBEs Global gg. MHJ was promised during this time that after they had gotten Lsfm debuted they would focus on nwjns but they didn't which caused the Members and their families to worry, mind you it was delayed for a whole year and a half. So this caused MHJ to take it into her own hands and BSH was jealous that they blew up without his input and help so he made ILLIT to make a new nwjns that he had creative control over. Wouldn't you be mad if someone, who told you your ideas were bad, stole your idea? Plus if you look at the budget difference Nwjns had only 16billion krw spent on them but ILLIT had 500billion krw. Can you now see the blatant plagiarism and disregard of nwjns and MHJ hard work? (Sorry for the long explanation but I just wanted you to understand the situation)
@@seventeenisfunnyaf MHJ spent her time sure. But she wasn't the one who spent 'so much money' on NJ. It was given from the company. She even admitted herself in her presscon that starting her own company was the right thing to do but she didn't start her own company and instead joined hybe to debut a gg because "if you start on your own money, you become poor". She didn't have the business mindset from the get go. You gotta learn to take risks in business. Even she knew it was a risk. She keeps saying it's not about money but her own words prove that it's definitely mostly about money cuz she didn't wanna take the risk and probably become poor. That's very contradictory. Bang pd wasn't like her, he started his own company and even went bankrupt but did with his own company instead of joining as a sublabel of money backed kakao or SM. He got so many offers to sell BTS(even to SM) but he didn't because he was a risk taker and knew his business well. If you work for a company anything you build as an employee, any creative output becomes the company's intellectual property or IP. You can't get emotional over your works success and get upset and scream plagiarism or stealing if someone else from the same company does something remotely similar with that formula because that idea belongs to the company now as the company's IP. It's her fault for not starting her own independent company and trademarking copyrights to every single hairstyle, hair color, dress, dance move since she wanted to be petty and wanted everything to be hers only so bad. Do you know how ridiculous it sounds? At the time NJ debuted LSF didn't have a huge budget like illit either, do you know why? Because source music was at the risk of bankruptcy and they had to debut some group with more assurance to popularity first before taking a huge risk like NJ in order to earn some money. And debuting someone already popular was the safe and right business move for that. Now the company has way more money than that year that's why illit got this much budget. I don't get why debuting first is so important to NJ. They didn't have even nearly as hard as other idols with their waiting peruod. There are idols who get their debuts pushed back to 7-8 years(jihyo, bang chan) and even 11years(aisha) but you don't see them throwing a fit over it and they are all successful now. Compared to that NewJeans waiting period was nothing. Yet they are still complaining and still stuck over the past. It seems they just can't accept the fact that they are not the 1st in everything and they are not getting every single thing in life. Getting upset over not being greeted/bowed back by a decades older senior. This should frankly be a life lesson to them as to why you can't have everything your way as a rookie and especially as an employee. Might not be rainbows and unicorns but that's how the idol business works. Jihyo got her debut pushed back 3 times. Bang chan got his debut pushed back 2 times. Yet they are still humble to JYP. Cuz they know that promises can fall through, it wasn't written as part of their trainee contracts that 'you get to debut 1st,you get to debut at this exact date and the company ceo will always bow to you cuz you're just that important' and that's why they don't make a fuss. It wasn't written in NJ trainee contract too but they are acting like it was. And talking about jealousy, if bang pd is jealous, then MHJ is more jealous than anyone on the industry right now. She's jealous that Illit became successful earlier than NJ did. Otherwise she wouldn't have screamed plagiarism. She'd be silent if illit flopped. That concept she keeps claiming that NJ and MHJ owns, after NJ a few nugu groups like triples did it too but she didn't raise a issue because she had nothing to be jealous of as they weren't successful. Not to mention she herself keeps copying other kpop and jpop acts(and now even uk acts) but she has a problem with illit doing it
@@madkmadk6809 you've made some very valid points that I agree with. The point about the company giving money if you looked at the figures, Not confirmed I just stumbled upon it so don't rely on me for this, in terms of the budget for Nwjns they were given 16billion won but ILLIT were given 500billion which shows where Hybe were focused on placing their investments. She spent so much time on the girls so she, as a trainer, grew to care for them and when they were promised to debut she obviously wanted to try her best to make it happen bc she had faith in them which BSH did not have. He , as someone who has been through a similar situation as her, should have been understanding enough to either give her the motivation and aid her rather than do what everyone else was doing to BTS when they were in the same situation and deemed as flops. Everything else I completely agree with though
And this Army still protecting this Hybe ceo 😂 and making fun of min heejin. He even didnt respect the parents 🤦♂️ it really show that he really like illit thats why he paying for those awards shows so that illit can get a win.
Their mindset is hybe is bts, I can’t with them
Army’s stood on their side when they supported zionism. Are we surprised?
So his plan is to put the group thats making his company millions of dollars on hiatus because his ego is hurt? WOW lol
what's so hard about training your idols vocals... it's getting ridiculous
they don’t have to if they are always on top of the charts… if y’all don’t stop listening they won’t start making them sing live because you’re still filling their pockets. use your brain.
honestly i do think that HYBE are acting so overwhelmingly arrogant. even the big 3, even YG, as dont gaf of them to fans demand still care about public opinion. but hybe are really not only ignoring it but also acting brave on it. this give me a goosebumps on how long has their hand already reach in the industry to the point they might able to act like a tyrant.
idk why I kinda felt bad for bts, when this grouo has a taste of how it feel being played around by people in power in that industry now their company using the power they give to do the same to other.
I really hope everything goes well for BTS when they come back. It's sad that when they come back the company that they built up is gonna be like this. As an ARMY it really makes me sad.
The BTS boys must be relieved to be in the army and away from this shitstorm.
So the rumors of hybe and dispatch being buddies is actually true. The rumors has been going on for a long time even before this drama.
I don't get it. What's wrong with min heejin being emotional for HER own group. She made the concept, selected the members, brought up the choreographers, and many more. She has every right to be protective about her group. And that 1 1/2 yrs "vacation" is pure bs. HYBE is trying to sideline nwjns so that people start to blend them into the crowd and focus only on their two most untalented groups illit and lsf. I can just hope nwjns doesn't get drained like gfriend or formis9.
is the success of hybe getting into BSH’s head? did he forget what all they went through in the past? it’s only because of bts’ success that hybe was established
It seems Hybe can't function as a multi-label company.
Bang PD is just at creative fraud at this point. I'm not supporting neither groups but seeing him being in declining his reputation day by day is just speechless.
please do not doubt of winwins desire to be with wayv he constantly remind people to support WAYV, he always shows love he also explain that he tried to arrange something so he could take part of the album but with all the filming of the drama they couldn't arrange anything and he felt sorry, wayv also has reminded everyone that winwin juggle his schedules and tries to participate but things are not always over his control, wayv also mentioned how important is winwin to the group so please don't forget he loves his jobs
No hate but illit and Lesserafim need that hiatus to get vocal training
Hybe and mhj both are so immature they need to put a end to this drama its affecting the artists in their company
Hybe wants to kill Newjeans and replace them with I’llit 😭😭
Money doesn't change you. It just reveals who you really are. Bang Si-hyuk sounds like an ***hole. It's basic manners to say hello back to someone who greets you. Doesn't take a lot of effort.
Either he honestly didn't recognise her and thinks he's above saying hello to someone who greets him or he recognised her and ignored her. Either way, he's an ***hole.
Go and look up if the samsung ceo bows back to his subordinates lol. And see if they make such a fuss about it
@@madkmadk6809 What does that change?
No way Jose… and y’all still thinking Min Hee Jin is the evil head who wants to govern the whole world. Stop being so naive and open your eyes, Hybe is doing everything and when I say everything this includes nasty ways of trying to erase NewJeans from the public eye. I don’t blame ILLIT for copying, this is SouMu’s fault and mediocre brains, letting once again Bang taking the lead. And now who will take all of the consequences will be their groups just because a nasty bunch of greedy people like Bang. Even if they don’t have good vocals, those groups need to be protected, BTS and TXT also need to be respected and well treated since Soobin almost fell in stage because of tiredness. How irresponsible of Hybe.
FR
Hybe is getting on my fucking nerves
It got on my nerves the day it accquired Pledis Entertainment. Worse news ever as a Carat.
17 would have disbanded, if it wasn't for hybe. Yes 17, leave hybe ! Let's see how long they'll last 😃 same with nj leaves hybe 👋
@@LuraMarry-be7kt Nah Seventeen is just good on their own and Pledis is striving because of them. It's Hybe that needs Seventeen, that's why they accuired Pledis. Get your facts right. You people sure have zero knowledge and don't do any fact findings before talking.
I used to think Hybe is the least problematic company, oh well
😂😂😂
HYBE wnt to far this time, with debuteing illit, litterly kids, without training and the needed time, setting them up for hate, copying NewJeans and ( i was shocked ) takeing a whole choreography from a really well know and talented choregrpher without credit and selling it as their own dance performance.... hybe is so money focused and silly, that they have to steal other concepts and choreos just cause they cant come up with something own...
In kaj dela potem Min Heejin podobno kot HYBE, če ne še huje.
Don't forget that in most of their groups, the talented members were trainees from other companies, meaning they can't even train their own talent.
@@SebastianBovesLmao they did have talented trainees like Jiwoo, Channel, and Jungeun but Hybe dropped them under the bus for Wonhee, Moka, and Iroha
But Hybe is just services for companies under them, ill’it is under Be-lift lab…Be-lift lab is responsible for managing them correctly….each companies have their team that are supposed to work for their group, music, concept, styles choreography etc it’s all under the companies duties…so don’t blame Hybe if it is not in their duties to do so…people these days are easy to criticize
@@msbebelle07 Hybe is the majority shareholder of all those subsidiaries and Bang PD was involved in ILLIT's album, so of course Hybe is responsible for this entire circus.
so much is happening with le sserafim 😭
It never ends
Idk why they are bringing up old stuff, it’s literally from antifragile era 🤦♀️
@@IloveGardensandteaparties I feel sorry for them now
Im not a fearnot but this is really went too far ... like the constructive criticism in a respectful way was okey but now so many Haters are just using it as a pretext to throw hate toward lee sserafim girls
It happens when you cannot sing
At this point I can't trust hybe anymore. I think I am getting detached from kpop 😭😭
thought i was the only one....lately i have been loosing interest
i don’t understand why you would trust any company anyways? Everyone’s money hungry, especially the ones on top of the social chain.
Same i feel like this industry is really toxic i’m reallyy losing my interest
Same bro...
Why would you ever trust that arrogant and money hungry man in the first place?..
"Fans" would rather Winwin had his one line in a song than have a successful actor career....
Exactly! win win has never really been givin an opportunity to shine as an idol😒 so if he does leave, these so called “fans” need to understand his talent is being wasted. And if he fully does acting he should be able to. Mans was snatched from nct127 to be put in wavyv to only get one line🤣 sometimes I forget win win is even still apart of the franchise. ( no shade )
Does anyone know how his acting has been received? I haven't found any news about that.
Dispatch sincerely talk bout late payment from HYBE
It seems that Hybe can do whatever he wants and not be held accountable by any authority. This is very strange. This company is run by very arrogant people since they won't admit their (intentional) mistakes and fix what they've ruined. It is terrible to commit injustices and move on as if nothing happened. This is clear evidence that this company is run by extremely toxic people who cannot stand the truth. I have no words to describe how disgusted I am with the corruption displayed by Hybe.
This will end up becoming a Netflix documentary 😭😭😭
My hatred for HYBE is just increasing day by day...
winwin has no control over his schedule, people need to calm down.
Hybe wants to put The biggest group under the label currently, into hiatus?? 🤐🤐
NewJeans deserves better!
The biggest group under Hybe label is bangtan.
@@user1234-ol7mz they probably meant that bc bts is in the army rn
@@Kpop_stay_hehe the first quarterly profit of hybe was released yesterday and bighit is the largest contributor, the svt etc even lessarafirm earns much more than new jeans...
@@user1234-ol7mz oh ok sorry i didnt really know, thank you❤️
@@user1234-ol7mz ohh ok 👍 thanks
So EVERYONE PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTAND MONEY CAN CHANGE ANYONE NO MATTER WHAT!!
Wow! Ilit is really out here copying everyone 🤔
It’s Not Illit that is copying it’s their team and HYBE Illit are innocent in this HYBE just got trainees debuted them to early and isn’t even protecting them it’s basically like he wanted drama between New jeans and Illit
Not illit its hybe and their production
Damn... even the choreographer spoke out...
2:50 ILLIT
4:38 LESSERAFIM
5:50 NWJNS
For people interested on Hybe’s scandal
my heart truly breaks for both newjeans and illit that they are being dragged into all of this and getting so much hate, but especially illit because they JUST debuted and are already getting into controversies:( i really hope this isnt taking a toll on both groups and that they will both be okay after this clears
I feel bad for NewJeans and their choreographers the most.
why looking for another producer for newjeans when they won song of the year with ditto? I think this is just a excuse cause the music is soo good that is why they are so popular
hybe became way too greedy they didn't get on top step by step they skipped a few learning experiences hence all these wrong decisions, lapses and impatience will be the cause of their downfall
Hybe got greedy and now they paying the consequences and this is just the beginning. Hybe is starting to lose korean fans
Such a same the New Jeans has to go through all of that with their CEO, ignoring them, etc….Im an international fan and I stand with Min Hee Jin!!!!
Y'all need to give these idols a break. It's like you're forgetting the su*cide rate of the k-entertainment industry. Your words have power and weight, even when you hide behind internet anonymity.
and of course, it's CHILDREN and TEENS being the victims of some adults' greed and ego. disgusting.
if copying a Y2k concept from New Jeans considered plagiarism, then 50% of kpop groups should be jailed lol, this is ridiculous, New Jeans probably already planned to move out of the Y2k concept for their next album anyways
hybe obviously bribed dispatch
It's always "netizens" making every decision idols make for themselves about them and how hard done by they are. No one owes you anything.
Min hee jin and hybe is def the best drama I’ve ever saw
Hybe is the worst. Hope Min Hee Jin and Newjeans are fine!😤😩💕💚
Korean Beyoncé is getting married, nice
Smells of misogyny and outright greed to me. Doesn't seem like HYBE is expending that much effort, care, proper vocal training, and support to their female groups as opposed to the male groups. Imo
How come there isn't any word on Nwjns' bubblegum sounding like a song by Shakatak or that the mv looks like the video for Oasis by Brown eyed girls?
because sampling songs is nothing new? LOL like are you kidding me..? there's a ckear difference between sampling a song (which would require legal approval from the owner of the sampled track) and mimicing another recently debuted girl group's debut outline, which they are very clearly not okay with, and using it for themselves (from the marketing materials / designs, to hiring the EXACT SAME PEOPLE who worked on and ONLY on newjeans' debut) to the point where it genuinely caused the two groups to get misidentified as one another....
Are you stupid or what? like why does this need to be explained to you? use your head before commenting on youtube ffs
I don’t even care about this new jeans and illit thing anymore 😭😭😭
hope new jean girls are doing good! i feel so bad for them, and especially since they might go on a 1 year and 6 month hiatus.
I think Minji got a boyfriend and broke the company dating rules, that's why bang pd was a bit harsh on her group and showing strictness by not greeting
Winwin should just focus on acting cos he barely has any lines in wayV songs I wish SM would've just redebuted wayv in a different nct unit focusing on Korea
He barely has lines cause he isn’t a good singer nor seems to try to improve his skills. Guess he’s just much more into acting instead being a performer
@@lu5423this. He didn't improve at all since 2016, unfortunately. And SM focuses on vocals and not dancing. Even Sehun and Taemin improved a lot, so why not WinWin?
The thing is SM kind of sidelines underatted idols. Check their units, they normally put the idols who are most popular. So maybe he got sick of it. I just hope he is okay, and he should do what he wants most I think
I think people seem to forget the mistreatment Winwin has faced since he joined NCT. From being a permanent part of NCT127 to being pulled out without any announcement or explanation. "Not being a good singer" is ridiculous. No one is asking for a ton of lines, a few lines would be good enough but he doesnt get anything. Even a little screen time would suffice. Also Winwin is definitely on the same level as Sehun so don't even go there. "SM focuses on vocals" is again nonsense because SM was the one who casted Winwin in China, where he had a stable career, brought him and debuted him in Korea. They basically unhinged his life just to treat him like shit. Good for him that he's focusing his efforts on acting. It's not like WayV themselves get treated well either. They're the worst treated unit in NCT.
Look how she keeps bringing up plagiarism accusations against illit on every illit video but would NOT mention that NewJeans plagiarized UK band Shakatak's 'Easier said that done' song for bubblegum. Instead she is talking about that lucky girl syndrome accusation for a freaking dance move, mentioning as if this is a new accusation when in reality it's been more than a week since that came up. But for actual MUSICAL plagiarism done By NJ, she's silent.
This channel is definitely on MHJ side. I'm sure MHJ contacted her. This vid was just confirmation for me lol
When Min Hee Jin gets fired at the end of the month, I wouldn't be surprised if HYBE folded Ador altogether.
Seeing as how they basically created the company so MHJ could run it.
Even Dispatch betrays HYBE is something I didn't expect to see (HYBE paid Dispatch to not release anything bad about BTS and their other groups)
Za to kar si napisal si lahko kazensko odgovoren.
Cancel you cancel kookielit
That is a small act to try to appear neutral but let's not forget that HYBE used Dispatch to start this whole scandal.
Dispatch was taking Hybe side but if they don't shade Hybe at all it will be bluntly taking side so they were just trying not to be obvious
PD Bang didn't recognize & didn't greet a teenage trainee pre debut BTS Taehyung when he met him several times before...he def has some sort of 'face blindness' lmao...
If anyone deserves some hiatus its illit and lessarafim just so they can train more and comeback stronger
To all the people who are blindly believing Min Hee Jin .. Remember Hybe is the only one who is providing real evidence and proof in this issue. Unlike Min hee jin whose only evidences are some screenshots of old chats , a email 'assumed ' to be written by the parents of new jeans. , some members feeling sad just because a ceo didn’t greet her etc.. 😂 I am not saying Hybe is innocent but that doesn’t make Min Hee Jin the good lady here. She was trying to take over the company and when hybe found out she diverted the media attention saying Illit copied New Jeans. She is a manipulative lady.
And all those whose are saying about mistreatments towards new jeans .. how did they get all this sponsorship and brads within days after their debut.. ofcourse hybe helped them to get it..
Atp hybe is the factory of controversies
HYBE paid for NJ's choreo. They OWN the choreo. WTF don't u people understand. MHJ throws out emotional manipulation, never pertinent FACTS. LAW is justice specifically because it dispels emotional biases.
yeah that's obviously not how it works. are you sure you know much about the judiciary system in south korea? because you type like you're 11 years old. why are you wasting your time writing comments on youtube when you clearly have no idea what is going on.... it doesnst make any sense. just do something more productive with your time. go study for your algebra quiz
Sheez. Do you have to be nasty? Just correct them not need for all this rude algebra nonsense
BRO I CALLED IT! That Dispatch would Reveal what's going on?
netflix will make a documentary about this or something 😭
It crazy how this year so far the most talked controversy is coming from HYBE mostly…
Happy for aliee!!
we only want min heejin!!!! shes dramatic but she does a good job
the way a lot of these unhinged and mean kpop fans are adults… just so cringe.
Add that to the way they hate on all these young girls is makes them even more gross.
Poor Le Sserafim can't catch a break.
Can't get vocal lessons either...
It’s all because of Hybe…..
@@salembejaoui1880 I think you need a cup of Starbucks. You are too grouchy.
People be finding the ‘best’ ways to hate illit or le sserafim in these comments. Hate hybe or MHJ, why you hating the girls for?
True, these cmmts going after the artists just show how trashy the cmmtrs actually are.
So the plan was to discredit HYBE and what is happening now.
I think LSF needs to focus on individual endeavors now and participate in variety shows and establish individual personalities once again to break away from their unfavorable current image.
You could offer the same advice to NewJeans, now that all their "original" content has been found to be copycats of other groups: music, slogan, mv, clothes, etc. Or, we could just appreciate the hard work these groups put in, ask that their producers/managers do a better job, and have some compassion.
@@theo67-ft3yx I have been more than compassionate to them than many others because they seem like genuinely good individuals who are not totally not control of their situation.
Your comment trying to pass off/deflect blame to another group just solidifies the fact how much LSF needs to work to improve themselves. This video segment was about LSF and not anyone else, bringing other groups is irrelevant and just shows how much toxic some people are to bring their hate and contempt to places where it's totally unnecessary.
The plagiarism allegation mentioned in this video is still new and the facts are developing but I see you bashing the original group and not mentioning their little sister group who have copied them in various aspects, making me think you are just a company stan.
My comment just consisted opinions without personally bashing or attacking any member individually, because when a group is in between comebacks usually they try to build up their individual images.
Certain members have very bad public images and this can benefit them.
Being a blind fan does no one any good.
Why do i feel like this page is an anti HYBE/BTS... But whatever it is nobody can ever let down my 'BANGTAN'
kpop fans ould make the biggest thing out of something so small I swear why y'all mad he getting his hustle on😭
Restrictions on newjeans' activities will result in reduced payments from HYBE to MHJ.
ADOR is also not a 100% subsidiary.
I suspect that this is one of the reasons behind the various actions of the HYBE group this year.
We don't want artists to suffer because of management or politics.
Another day another illit plagiarism. This is the WORST GIRL DEBUT EVER.
Making newjeans wait for 1 year and 6 months for a Grammy winning producer is dumb af... why can't they releasing music during the period that they looking for that producer??
Good for Hybe's CEO for keeping his distance, that way there's no chance of him being accused of inappropriate behavior with anyone. more Hollywood ppl ( like the Harveys weinsteins, the josh pecks and the nickelodeon dans of the world) should follow his example and ignore the young talent specially if they are extremely young, vulnerable or minors. sorry but I do not see anything wrong with Hybes CEO keeping his distance from the talent. and like this other channel mentioned (Korean culture and news I think is called), this was a missed opportunity for the adults in the room to teach a valuable lesson to the girls about how to handle this type of situations, which in the end is best for them and their safety. kudos to hybe
Well were having another gfriend disbandment in front of our eyes. Hybe is trying to replace them with illit 🤫
COME ON HYBE,give ILLIT a different concept.This all NJ plagiarisms give those ILLIT girls more hate than love.😢😢😢😢
Hybe run the future for ILLIT because they have so much potential but they just copying new jeans everything and not using their true talent ( potential)
With that treatment, they should just let ADOR leave . Poor girls
it's nice seeing and hearing about ailee again! i wish she was more active :c