@meteorknight999 when everything is filtered through the paranoid lens of "who benefits from this article?" then the facts are lost. Free Citizens have the right to be fully informed. The last thing this country needs is more censorship nannies.
Much of this trade is being done outside the standard accounting system. So. It's skewing the actual picture of trade. A new rail line has opened as well as a new gaspipeline with a 135 billion m3 capacity. Sanctions be damned.
China is stealing our iron ore and ship it there to sell some to Russia when China has huge deposits of their own. And China is dredging the WWII ships (protected) and make steel for them.
Once in december 1982 - january 1983 i was there on 5000 t DW tanker delivering gasoil to Dudinka. Winds 25 m/sec, air -51 deg. C, 2.5 m thick ice. Incredible experience. Remembers for my whole life.
@xinfuxia3809 Yes, we had. Whole trip on short tow (so called "on mustache"). First from Karskie Vorota srtait to Enisey estury by Nuclear icebreaker, then upriver by diesel electric. Backwards wice versa.
@@theophilusbenabassbenat5478 USA doesnt really have any Icebreakers unlike Russia, and they arnt nuclear powered. Also the North East Passage (Russia route) has far less ice and more viable while having not border disputes. The North West passage where Canada/Alaska is at has border dispute, USA tries to argue that the waters between the islands are international waters while Canada says its territorial waters. LOL. But that doesnt really matter since it gets more ice making it much harder to be viable especially when they dont have a icebreaker fleet.
Sal, the map at 2.44 and the Russia - Russia figures at 3.05 appear to have totally ignored the Port of Dudinka on the Yenisei (Yenisey). It is a trans-shipment port between river ships and barges (which can get right up to Krasnoyarsk (Beautiful Place or Beautiful Land) more than a thousand miles up river in the Summer and Autumn). on the one hand and ocean going ships on the other. Above all it serves the mining and smelting complex at Noriľsk, possibly the biggest Nickel deposit in the World as well as copper, cobalt, platinum, palladium, also coal.nearly all of which is used in the smelters. The City of Noriľsk has some of the most polluted air in the World. Fresh fruit, vegetables, canned goods and other comsumables (washing up liquid, shampoo, cola, new TVs, new cars, Nescafe Gold Blend etc.) are brought into Dudinka via the Arctic for more than half a million people in the greater region during the season.
Great coverage as always Sal, on a topic not seen covered at all...but just as important as any other shipping route on the oceans, and one that is only likely to increase in use in future years...brilliant stuff!!! Cheers from Sydney Aus!!!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻
Hey! Will you cover the accident on the Moselle river in Germany earlier today? The important waterway will remain closed for many months, and about 70 ships are now trapped.
Have you seen how Russia and China maintain their ships, though? Do we really want to see a nuclear ice breaker sink in the wilderness that is the Arctic, where cleaning it up would be not only difficult, but possibly would take decades since ice pack could limit access to the site to very limited times of year. I would also not guarantee that the classification for having ice rated hulls was actually true if the classification was done out of Russia as they have a serious problem with corruption in their government. This is why nuclear commercial vessels haven't ever happened, even though they would be very economical, since they would never get insured as too many of the operators would run them till they became unseaworthy and risked sinking, becoming massive ecological disasters or could have a radiation release while in a port, which would be even worse, even if it was perfectly safe for the surrounding population as it could get the entire class banned from all ports, making them worthless before their end of life.
Sal I am earily supporter and current supporter here, as I watch the event unfolding Syria I looked at map and used Sal's logic: experts always look at logistics so I noticed the US and Kurds control all roads from Iran at that point knew it was all over for the Russians. Thanks Sal
Your analysis would have predicted that it was all over in 1980 already. What it’s missing is that Iran can fly or sail and not use those desert roads.
The Russians' "north-east passage" route makes more sense than any worries that China might want to use the Canadian north-west passage. In general, it is more direct, whereas ours is somewhat convoluted as it passes between the various Arctic islands. Anything Arctic depends on having enough icebreakers, but as this video points out, also ice-strenghened ships; I think most major shippers do not want to build the latter except out of necessity, so for that reason I doubt it will ever be as popular as the other routes for them. However, if there is a niche shipper with the right kind of ships, as this video points out, depending what else is going on in the world, might be better to face some ice at certain times of the year than hostile drones or pirates. Imagine if the China-Russia route was able to take Chinese ships to places like Rotterdam or Hamburg. Perhaps for political reasons they do not want to allow it, but a change of government in Europe might decide that they will no longer honour any current sanctions regime that might prevent it.
If you’d use a real size world map, it would be more obvious, why the arctic route is only 2/3 in length of the Suez route to Europe. Russia is only 6.000 km from east to west. In comparison, Africa is 7.300 from east to west and 8.000 from north to south! Mercator shows it all wrong.
I’ll bet money, the coal Getting shipped to Saint Petersburg, and UST LUGA are for coal fired plants that generate electricity for the EU power grid… the EU is literally going green and paying Russia for the difference in base load loss. 5:31
Most of the interconnects between Russia and EU nations have been severed at the start of the war. Additionally Russian Federation has a serious lack of power due to incorporation of Crimea and parts of four Ukrainian Oblasts into it, so it can't supply that much through what's left. It had these problems even before the conflict due to Crimean situation leading to lowered imports of electricity into EU nations, but it's gotten worse. If you remember the story of Siemens turbines early in the war, that was about them trying to fix at least some of the problem.
A lot of "going green" is for wealthy nations paying poor nations to do the dirty work. Where are old ships broken? Where does that load of electronic junk go? Can't burn the coal here but it is OK to mine it so it can be burned elsewhere. I find "going green" so hypocritical.
Having sailed the North Atlantic with very heavy seas and ice all over the ship (USS Canberra CAG-2, either 1962 or 1963), those sailors must be sailing under torture conditions in the arctic.
@@bossdog1480 An Ice pack is the ;last thing you want pounding on metal ships. It is like blacksmith's hammers. The bending back-and-forth could cause metal fatigue and ruptures causing a ship to take on water. Definitely not good.
It is good that Free Trade conditions still exist. However, did you include Nickel, Aluminum, cobalt, and Iron Ore? We assume that the Baltic Trade for Russia and the Black Sea Ammonia, Natural Gas, and other Bulk Cargoes are still ongoing. Great presentation
Thanks Sal! I'm interested in Saudi ports. Do you have details on those ports? Sure would love to know what's happening there! Love the xmas lights. Happy Holidays to you and all you love❤❤❤
With all those voyages/tonnage cited - it would be good to understand how that compares to rail volume on the Trans-Siberian Railway for example. (idea for follow-up video ;-)).
The data seems to include an omission. What of the LNG from the Yamal LNG facility Westward either to trans-shipment (reloaded into Europe bound ships) or directly to customer & what of the LNG carriers headed to Chinese ports?? And the LNG modules built in China (Guang dong) sent to Arctic LNG 2 project - is it the "other - 4"? I was a part of the 5-EYES data theft regime in 1979 (CFS Alert) - was so jealous when I was intercepting trans. from the SIBIR icebreaker that traveled straight to the North Pole . Visited the graves of crewmembers of HMS Alert that over-wintered all those years ago off Ellesmere Island - so we were told! Graves were empty of course.
There was an article on this, and wondering how it fits in... Title is "Russia and China Seek to Dominate Artic Trade Routes and Establish Military Presence in Norway"
Whomever wrote that must be a heavy drinker. Norway is part of NATO. Both Russia and China are already in trouble by ripping up cables in the Baltic. Russia is getting sacked in the next 6 months so that just leaves China that needs a lesson on what goes.
@@TheLittlered1961 They couldnt do it just a decade ago because - drumroll - there was more ice, so much so that despite their highly capable icebreaker fleet it was not viable to convoy cargo ships through. Now, they can actually sail through with just ice strengthened commercial ships during summer. And you could easily research the deflation of sea ice over the decades, its well documented.
Just google news articles relating to defense budget cuts and you will see that we have been doing it for a very long time. We used to have distinct branches of defense. Now its just some pixelated mess.
@@frtls I have probably read them already. Canadian defense spending as percent of GDP bottomed out in 2014 the end of Stephen Harper's time in power, and has been on wobbly slow trend upwards in the last 9 years or so.
@RobertGray_USNA86 The issue is not merely the shorter distance but the ships deciding to take the route and deal with the ice. It is of course shorter but the issue is to circumvent sanctions.
@wgowshipping Sanctions merely provided more incentives. The Houthi creating their own set of incentives. Russia were already developing their Polar Coast Infrastructure regardless of the Sanctions. I hinted the Transit Times - IIRC - BECAUSE the differences made sense for Russia and China. The World doesn't revolve around US Sanctions or whatever Arbitrary "International Rule and Order" Blinken and others can conjure. The Astute Readers know these Sanctions were meant to subjugate Russia (e.g., RAND Schemes), separate Europe from their "Economical" Energy Lifeline, and replace them with USA's FreedomFrack LNG. As it stands, German Heavy Industrials are shutting down and relocating Abroad as a consequence. Such is Life. IMO, it's due time to stop playing these Reindeer Games...
@VladimirStepanov-e6h excellent point that one is volume and the other is mass. i asked google and it said: One metric ton of crude oil equals: 7.46 barrels of domestic crude oil. I guess because oil weighs less than water.
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I remember the shrinkage of polar sea ice and a much longer season of Arctic sealanes being navigable was precicted in the late 1970's. Of course, no one paid much attention at the time.
latest nasa data, heavier and thicker ice than previously recorded. so the climate is too complex to be predicted by bad computer models that ignore basic thermo fluids
@kramer00999 Please state your source. The latest NASA Arctic sea ice seasonal data from two months ago says otherwise. Regardless of short term variances, the long term trend continues downward, both in thickness and extent.
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Great video, very interesting topic. I have been doing a study of this trade route as part of studies for my OOW. I was surprised to find out about the soon to be launched, Russian navy’s armed nuclear powered icebreaker, the first of its kind. Makes sense as the largest arctic nation.
Good find Sal, thanks for your work! I think 1.89 MMt is a drop in the bucket. 1.89 million metric tons at 7.3 barrels per ton = 13,797,000 barrels in a one year time frame or 37,800 barrels per day. For comparison the US imports 6,480,000 million barrels per day. In 2023 China imported 11,290,000 per day 19% (2,145,199 b/d) of which came from Russia. Russia to China pipeline is good for .3MMb/d (300,000 barrels per day) In 2021, Asian refineries imported 2.4 MMb/d or about 120 MMt/y of Russian oil via the ESPO oil pipeline and waterborne routes, with over 80% of the oil delivered to mainland China. Thats 1,800,000 barrels per day (84%) not accounted for by pipeline or the northern route. Just napkin math with additional facts from google, primarily the S&P Global breakdown of China / Russia oil flows. The amounts moving along the northern sea lanes seem very small. Here's an interesting snip: How is oil shipped from Russia? 71% of Russian seaborne crude oil was transported by 'shadow' tankers, while tankers owned or insured in countries implementing the price cap accounted for 29%. 'Shadow' tankers transporting oil products handled 44% of Russia's total volume of products.May 20, 2024
Chinas main electricity source is coal power stations, the Russia China coal trade is well established. China also imports coal from North Korea, one of its largest exports….apart from maybe artillery shells to Russia 😂
@@AllMySoaps4040 It is happening. Are you defending china's labor rights abuses?? People didn't even know what was happening with the Uighurs being forced into labor camps. Because of the ccp's opaqueness, it takes a lot of diligence to discover these atrocities. The decoupling is underway and I hope in time Chinese enjoy their chabuduo quality domestic products to themselves.
True, the Berlin-Baghdad railway was a reason for the British to push for war, too. Same with Nord Stream II, btw, the US blocked any business between Russia and Europe to steal the energy market and impose their gas and oil at twice the price.
the times we live in keep getting more "interesting" by the day. Also shows the complementary strengths of Russia and China, the one with raw materials (and a lackadaisical attitude to the environment) and the other with manufacturing.
why? the US and Russia aren't at war, and the US has plenty of nuclear-powered vessels of their own; there's not a lot of "military secrecy"at play here, more commercial secrecy (maybe) as to design and building techniques maybe you should look into setting up tours for interested people to go for rides with them once sanctions are lifted
NOBODY else is taking about Arctic shipping so once again, Sal is in a class by himself!
Cause that is a pro russian view
You think enemies will spread that view ?
Cause that is a pro Ru view there can be
You think enemies will spread that view ?
@meteorknight999 when everything is filtered through the paranoid lens of "who benefits from this article?" then the facts are lost. Free Citizens have the right to be fully informed. The last thing this country needs is more censorship nannies.
Who are your enemies?
@VladimirStepanov-e6h
vlad, have you visited Ukraine lately?
Not a lot of friends to be found there for you…
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Just for clarification - Russia operates 41 icebreakers, 34 diesel-electric and 7 nuclear.
Much of this trade is being done outside the standard accounting system. So. It's skewing the actual picture of trade. A new rail line has opened as well as a new gaspipeline with a 135 billion m3 capacity. Sanctions be damned.
You are keeping us abreast of things that the news chooses to ignore😅 Thank you, sal
I don't think they choose to ignore it. I think they are so uninformed they don't know to cover it. That in itself doesn't win confidence.
China is stealing our iron ore and ship it there to sell some to Russia when China has huge deposits of their own. And China is dredging the WWII ships (protected) and make steel for them.
@@sittinandthinkinThat's cause most journalist's are useless at their job these days.
Искать такую информацию надо не только в западных медиа. В российской прессе и интернете её достаточно много.
Once in december 1982 - january 1983 i was there on 5000 t DW tanker delivering gasoil to Dudinka. Winds 25 m/sec, air -51 deg. C, 2.5 m thick ice. Incredible experience. Remembers for my whole life.
Did you have an icebreaker escort?
@xinfuxia3809 Yes, we had. Whole trip on short tow (so called "on mustache"). First from Karskie Vorota srtait to Enisey estury by Nuclear icebreaker, then upriver by diesel electric. Backwards wice versa.
This route absolutely fascinates me.
Time for the US to conduct freedom of navigation tours? When will we see the first aircraft carrier on the northern route?
@@scene2much A lot of it is in Russia territorial waters lol. And no Air Craft Carrier is going though there without a icebreaker escort LOL.
Russia knows USA will try navigation bruhaha so they are reopening more and more arctic bases
@@theophilusbenabassbenat5478 USA doesnt really have any Icebreakers unlike Russia, and they arnt nuclear powered. Also the North East Passage (Russia route) has far less ice and more viable while having not border disputes. The North West passage where Canada/Alaska is at has border dispute, USA tries to argue that the waters between the islands are international waters while Canada says its territorial waters. LOL.
But that doesnt really matter since it gets more ice making it much harder to be viable especially when they dont have a icebreaker fleet.
The projection of your map greatly enlarges distances in the north versus near the equator.
In reality the nortern route is shorter than through Suez.
Yes.
Thanks for pointing that out. It's easy to forget how flat maps distort. I was thinking, "That looks as long or longer than going through Suez".
you have to use a polar proyection map on those places we used the antartic vercion when on rute to antartida
@@janhemmer8181 that is the charts used by Nord University in their report.
Exactly... Much shorter.
Thank you for a much fuller picture of what is "really" going down.
Sal, the map at 2.44 and the Russia - Russia figures at 3.05 appear to have totally ignored the Port of Dudinka on the Yenisei (Yenisey). It is a trans-shipment port between river ships and barges (which can get right up to Krasnoyarsk (Beautiful Place or Beautiful Land) more than a thousand miles up river in the Summer and Autumn). on the one hand and ocean going ships on the other. Above all it serves the mining and smelting complex at Noriľsk, possibly the biggest Nickel deposit in the World as well as copper, cobalt, platinum, palladium, also coal.nearly all of which is used in the smelters. The City of Noriľsk has some of the most polluted air in the World. Fresh fruit, vegetables, canned goods and other comsumables (washing up liquid, shampoo, cola, new TVs, new cars, Nescafe Gold Blend etc.) are brought into Dudinka via the Arctic for more than half a million people in the greater region during the season.
Count on Asiatic despotism to be transparent.
Thanks, Sal!
I can't imagine the sound in the forward hold of an icebreaker. It probably sounds so strange and cosmic, vast.
Terrifying is more like it. 😂
@@rolandthethompsongunner64 you can hear it in all the hull.
Ice nails on a steel chalkboard!
Powered by a huge engine…
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They are making one or two big nuclear powered icebrakers a year.
That says something
in the mean time chinada is thinking about having some serious discussions
That says plenty about superpower of the country.
The Northern Sea Route and ice-breakers in general have always interested me. Great video!
Thanks Sal
I can see in the past couple of videos that we need to petition’The North Face’ to come out with a line of Hawaiian print fleece garments !
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Aloha shirt purist. Hawaiian shirt guys take home the Brady Bunch Tiki Idol and put it in their bedroom.
I agree
Lol. On track for record ice extent in Jan🙄
LOL indeed. I thought I was on the wrong channel.
Thanks Sal! Happy Holidays! 🎉
I look at the map you showed, and became clearly aware that American Railroads connect their coasts.
Thank you Sal.
Great coverage as always Sal, on a topic not seen covered at all...but just as important as any other shipping route on the oceans, and one that is only likely to increase in use in future years...brilliant stuff!!!
Cheers from Sydney Aus!!!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻
Hey! Will you cover the accident on the Moselle river in Germany earlier today? The important waterway will remain closed for many months, and about 70 ships are now trapped.
Thanks for the news, I'm in Europe and missed it...
Thank you!!!
Congrats on the subs!!! We’ve been watching since you started the channel!
Always so informative 🙏🙏🙏
Good afternoon Sal.
Hey, Sal! I'm here to support a fellow North Carolinian! Keep up the great work, sir.
Me too ! Go Camels!
4:18 is showing incredible route of transportation!
I'd like to see that as a polar projection.
@@catsupchutney Search "arcticmap4-new.gif" to get a good map.
very informative, enjoyed that
Great to hear their tankers have ice class hulls. Sounds very responsible..and nuclear ice breakers, superb.
Have you seen how Russia and China maintain their ships, though? Do we really want to see a nuclear ice breaker sink in the wilderness that is the Arctic, where cleaning it up would be not only difficult, but possibly would take decades since ice pack could limit access to the site to very limited times of year. I would also not guarantee that the classification for having ice rated hulls was actually true if the classification was done out of Russia as they have a serious problem with corruption in their government.
This is why nuclear commercial vessels haven't ever happened, even though they would be very economical, since they would never get insured as too many of the operators would run them till they became unseaworthy and risked sinking, becoming massive ecological disasters or could have a radiation release while in a port, which would be even worse, even if it was perfectly safe for the surrounding population as it could get the entire class banned from all ports, making them worthless before their end of life.
@@KnightsWithoutATable Have you seen how Boeing maintain their airplanes and corruption from the FAAm Boeing and US government? Pipe down kiddo.
@@wendygerrish4964 for real from the Wendy profile
☕superb sarcasm
@@KnightsWithoutATable The US has had twice as many nuclear subs sunk as Russia. I suspect Russian maintenance is better than US.
Бред сивой кобылы. Русские обслуживают (maintaining) свои атомные ледоколы уже 70 лет...
Thank you, Sal .
Excellent info...Thanks Sal.
The former USSR used to transfer submarines from the Northern Fleet to the Pacific Fleet in the 1960s, 70, 80s, 90, and the 21st century.
I am not sure USSR transferred anything in 21st century. It ceased to exist in 1991.
Sal I am earily supporter and current supporter here, as I watch the event unfolding Syria I looked at map and used Sal's logic: experts always look at logistics so I noticed the US and Kurds control all roads from Iran at that point knew it was all over for the Russians. Thanks Sal
The Turks are fighting the Kurds in Northern Syria.
Your analysis would have predicted that it was all over in 1980 already. What it’s missing is that Iran can fly or sail and not use those desert roads.
The Russians' "north-east passage" route makes more sense than any worries that China might want to use the Canadian north-west passage. In general, it is more direct, whereas ours is somewhat convoluted as it passes between the various Arctic islands. Anything Arctic depends on having enough icebreakers, but as this video points out, also ice-strenghened ships; I think most major shippers do not want to build the latter except out of necessity, so for that reason I doubt it will ever be as popular as the other routes for them. However, if there is a niche shipper with the right kind of ships, as this video points out, depending what else is going on in the world, might be better to face some ice at certain times of the year than hostile drones or pirates. Imagine if the China-Russia route was able to take Chinese ships to places like Rotterdam or Hamburg. Perhaps for political reasons they do not want to allow it, but a change of government in Europe might decide that they will no longer honour any current sanctions regime that might prevent it.
Western brains are stuck in the past China Russia looking ahead. And as a wise woman once said if you don't compete you don't exist.
If you’d use a real size world map, it would be more obvious, why the arctic route is only 2/3 in length of the Suez route to Europe.
Russia is only 6.000 km from east to west. In comparison, Africa is 7.300 from east to west and 8.000 from north to south!
Mercator shows it all wrong.
I know. The route is substantially shorter but it is the ice that has prevented the use of the route.
@@wgowshipping that is changing no doubt about that
Thanks from the U.K.
Hey Dr Sal, another brilliant episode as always💯👏🏻🫶🏻
Yeah interesting episode! Maps were awesome because I was pretty ignorant on topic and geography always sketchy outside my bike routes. Thanks.
I’ll bet money, the coal Getting shipped to Saint Petersburg, and UST LUGA are for coal fired plants that generate electricity for the EU power grid… the EU is literally going green and paying Russia for the difference in base load loss. 5:31
Most of the interconnects between Russia and EU nations have been severed at the start of the war. Additionally Russian Federation has a serious lack of power due to incorporation of Crimea and parts of four Ukrainian Oblasts into it, so it can't supply that much through what's left. It had these problems even before the conflict due to Crimean situation leading to lowered imports of electricity into EU nations, but it's gotten worse. If you remember the story of Siemens turbines early in the war, that was about them trying to fix at least some of the problem.
A lot of "going green" is for wealthy nations paying poor nations to do the dirty work. Where are old ships broken? Where does that load of electronic junk go? Can't burn the coal here but it is OK to mine it so it can be burned elsewhere. I find "going green" so hypocritical.
How many ice breakers do we/USA operate?
Is there less ice that allows more shipments?
It is a viable route for anybody, not just Russia and China.
Non-friendly countries as defined by Russia would get a visit from some grey ships.
An explanatory report.
Very interesting Sal, as always.
Ice breaking 101 😉
Are ships using Archangel?
I still call it that
The Brits did that journey during world war 2 to keep the soviet war machine going. They called it the voyage from hell.
АРХАНГЕЛЬСК
Great info, as always.
This is so fascinating.
Having sailed the North Atlantic with very heavy seas and ice all over the ship (USS Canberra CAG-2, either 1962 or 1963), those sailors must be sailing under torture conditions in the arctic.
Wouldn't the pack ice calm the surface?
@@bossdog1480 An Ice pack is the ;last thing you want pounding on metal ships. It is like blacksmith's hammers. The bending back-and-forth could cause metal fatigue and ruptures causing a ship to take on water. Definitely not good.
Pack ice make sea surface calm and easy😂.
@VladimirStepanov-e6h Tell that to Shackleton. He lost his ship and nearly his crew in the pack ice.
@VladimirStepanov-e6h Tell that to Shackleton. He lost his ship and nearly his crew in the pack ice.
It is good that Free Trade conditions still exist. However, did you include Nickel, Aluminum, cobalt, and Iron Ore?
We assume that the Baltic Trade for Russia and the Black Sea Ammonia, Natural Gas, and other Bulk Cargoes are still ongoing.
Great presentation
It takes a special kind of mariner to work such treacherous waters.
Steel balls people already doing this for many decades.
"This is unacceptable! We must mobilise our icebreaker fleet to scare them!"
Sal I enjoyed the video and hit the like button
Thanks Sal! I'm interested in Saudi ports. Do you have details on those ports? Sure would love to know what's happening there! Love the xmas lights. Happy Holidays to you and all you love❤❤❤
With all those voyages/tonnage cited - it would be good to understand how that compares to rail volume on the Trans-Siberian Railway for example. (idea for follow-up video ;-)).
It is like 6 times but there are diferent cargoes the railway is carring prosesed products like steal alloys and titanium components
1 ship is like 100 trains on average I think? of course there are more trains, and einforced ships might be smaller on average.
Fabulous.
Great Vid! What is the difference in distance going the north route vs all the way south.
~Two weeks...
Anything about the Northwest passage through Canadian waters ?
The data seems to include an omission. What of the LNG from the Yamal LNG facility Westward either to trans-shipment (reloaded into Europe bound ships) or directly to customer & what of the LNG carriers headed to Chinese ports?? And the LNG modules built in China (Guang dong) sent to Arctic LNG 2 project - is it the "other - 4"?
I was a part of the 5-EYES data theft regime in 1979 (CFS Alert) - was so jealous when I was intercepting trans. from the SIBIR icebreaker that traveled straight to the North Pole .
Visited the graves of crewmembers of HMS Alert that over-wintered all those years ago off Ellesmere Island - so we were told! Graves were empty of course.
I know you said people are going to talk about climate change, but.... yea, it's climate change.
That's why US is trying so hard to block this route.
There was an article on this, and wondering how it fits in... Title is "Russia and China Seek to Dominate Artic Trade Routes and Establish Military Presence in Norway"
Whomever wrote that must be a heavy drinker. Norway is part of NATO. Both Russia and China are already in trouble by ripping up cables in the Baltic. Russia is getting sacked in the next 6 months so that just leaves China that needs a lesson on what goes.
They still have to go through Canadian Waters to do West / East transits from the Atlantic to Pacific
They don't need to enter Canadian waters to sail from Europe to Asia and back.
Your right . I changed it. I was thinking of the routes available now .
I can hear the environmentists already. This is due to agw. It's not! It is due to better technology.
@@TheLittlered1961 both are at play
@@TheLittlered1961 They couldnt do it just a decade ago because - drumroll - there was more ice, so much so that despite their highly capable icebreaker fleet it was not viable to convoy cargo ships through. Now, they can actually sail through with just ice strengthened commercial ships during summer. And you could easily research the deflation of sea ice over the decades, its well documented.
And the Canadians are still cutting defense and coast guard budgets....
You must not be Canadian to say that.
Untrue. If you knew anything about Canada you would know that.
Just google news articles relating to defense budget cuts and you will see that we have been doing it for a very long time. We used to have distinct branches of defense. Now its just some pixelated mess.
@@frtls I have probably read them already. Canadian defense spending as percent of GDP bottomed out in 2014 the end of Stephen Harper's time in power, and has been on wobbly slow trend upwards in the last 9 years or so.
@@wyldhowl2821Canada has turned their military into a joke and the U.S. is tired of footing your defense bill.
Gee
How about Route Transit Time Differentials?
@RobertGray_USNA86 The issue is not merely the shorter distance but the ships deciding to take the route and deal with the ice.
It is of course shorter but the issue is to circumvent sanctions.
@wgowshipping Sanctions merely provided more incentives.
The Houthi creating their own set of incentives.
Russia were already developing their Polar Coast Infrastructure regardless of the Sanctions.
I hinted the Transit Times - IIRC - BECAUSE the differences made sense for Russia and China.
The World doesn't revolve around US Sanctions or whatever Arbitrary "International Rule and Order" Blinken and others can conjure.
The Astute Readers know these Sanctions were meant to subjugate Russia (e.g., RAND Schemes), separate Europe from their "Economical" Energy Lifeline, and replace them with USA's FreedomFrack LNG.
As it stands, German Heavy Industrials are shutting down and relocating Abroad as a consequence.
Such is Life. IMO, it's due time to stop playing these Reindeer Games...
how many barrels of crude oil are there in a tonne?
Barrel is a volume figure.
Tonnes is a weight figure.
1000 litres of volume conteins about 6.3 bbls.
@VladimirStepanov-e6h
excellent point that one is volume and the other is mass. i asked google and it said:
One metric ton of crude oil equals:
7.46 barrels of domestic crude oil.
I guess because oil weighs less than water.
IF
Cанкт-Петербург = St. Petersburg
THEN
Архангельск = Archangel
When we partnered with the Russians for the ISS in space, good things happened. Time to do the same with maritime interests.
lol
You must be joking... 😂
Roscosmo brought one of our astronauts back from the ISS as late as September of this year.
Russia will never partner with you Americans again you have proven to be the polecats that you are.
Does the US have icebreakers? Can it construct them?
No doubts can.
@VladimirStepanov-e6hмогли бы- сделали бы.
So, do you want to do this the Hot way, or the Cold way?
So Wise , Thank You . We as the US need to be building our Heavy Duty Ice Breakers
The United States can't build ships.
Thanks Sal, nobody else shares this information….why!?
It's got no clickbait pizzazz.
The name of the latest ship to enter a Syrian port and leave again? Any suggestions during the next year or so? From Geoffrey at Australian post code 2371
Skyrim (and Norway) belongs to the Nords!
I been saying since the Red Sea been blocked why haven’t everyone switched ships to this route
Impossible. Too heavy conditions for regular ships.
Northern sea routes are quite remarkable. Not so many years ago, they were adventures where you could easily lose your life.
One benefit of Global Warming.
Nice synopsis of what cargo is moving on the route along with the risks involved.
Please,don't remind me! It's pathetic! Unfortunately that's just a small portion of our current problems.
I remember the shrinkage of polar sea ice and a much longer season of Arctic sealanes being navigable was precicted in the late 1970's. Of course, no one paid much attention at the time.
latest nasa data, heavier and thicker ice than previously recorded. so the climate is too complex to be predicted by bad computer models that ignore basic thermo fluids
politicians didn't think of exploiting it ... yet
@kramer00999 Please state your source. The latest NASA Arctic sea ice seasonal data from two months ago says otherwise. Regardless of short term variances, the long term trend continues downward, both in thickness and extent.
@@leestamm3187 Very low ice area and extent this year, maybe record low if you take both poles into account.
Always actual news here, thanks Sal.
Once the Arctic route is open 100% - USA Hedgemoney is in trouble.
Good luck everyone, you can have it!
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Great video, very interesting topic. I have been doing a study of this trade route as part of studies for my OOW. I was surprised to find out about the soon to be launched, Russian navy’s armed nuclear powered icebreaker, the first of its kind. Makes sense as the largest arctic nation.
also good nuclear technicians
Cruising through the Deadliest Catch grounds ?
There canal from the Baltic to White Sea, but trivial
This is all calculated and accounted for. Thats why the nuclear superpower hasnt flexed any muscle. Think about it.
Good find Sal, thanks for your work!
I think 1.89 MMt is a drop in the bucket.
1.89 million metric tons at 7.3 barrels per ton = 13,797,000 barrels in a one year time frame or 37,800 barrels per day. For comparison the US imports 6,480,000 million barrels per day. In 2023 China imported 11,290,000 per day 19% (2,145,199 b/d) of which came from Russia.
Russia to China pipeline is good for .3MMb/d (300,000 barrels per day)
In 2021, Asian refineries imported 2.4 MMb/d or about 120 MMt/y of Russian oil via the ESPO oil pipeline and waterborne routes, with over 80% of the oil delivered to mainland China.
Thats 1,800,000 barrels per day (84%) not accounted for by pipeline or the northern route.
Just napkin math with additional facts from google, primarily the S&P Global breakdown of China / Russia oil flows.
The amounts moving along the northern sea lanes seem very small.
Here's an interesting snip:
How is oil shipped from Russia?
71% of Russian seaborne crude oil was transported by 'shadow' tankers, while tankers owned or insured in countries implementing the price cap accounted for 29%. 'Shadow' tankers transporting oil products handled 44% of Russia's total volume of products.May 20, 2024
The fabled Northwest Passage.
That's the Northeast Passage. While the British were searching for the Northwest Passage the Netherlands were searching for the Northeast Passage.
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surprisingly almost no political statements.... thanks
I appreciate that compared to gCaptain, although I have no illusions about Russia, NEITHER!
Are there any Russian ports on the Artic coast that could provide aid in the case of emergencies.
Thanks to all that pollution from "the world's manufacturer" helping to speed up the melting of those icecaps
5:20 ...boatloads of coal from Russia to Beijing. Perfect.
I thought they had domestic supplies of coal.
Russia must be having fire sales
Chinas main electricity source is coal power stations, the Russia China coal trade is well established. China also imports coal from North Korea, one of its largest exports….apart from maybe artillery shells to Russia 😂
You stop buying, then they manufacture less. Stop whining.
@@AllMySoaps4040 It is happening. Are you defending china's labor rights abuses?? People didn't even know what was happening with the Uighurs being forced into labor camps. Because of the ccp's opaqueness, it takes a lot of diligence to discover these atrocities.
The decoupling is underway and I hope in time Chinese enjoy their chabuduo quality domestic products to themselves.
This makes little sense. Russia doesn’t have any rail infrastructure? Why not ship it by rail and pipelines?
Congestion would be my guess and more options for logistics.
Neither does North America have rail infrastructure north of 50-s parallel
1 ship is like 100 trains...
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What time would be saved from say Shangai to Rotterdam?
that caught my eye too
wars don't last forever, one day the sanctions will go away but who knows when
2 weeks.
@VladimirStepanov-e6h That's a lot of time saving. Thanks 👍
Does China think somehow this will offset losses they will suffer from their bans of exports? Because I cannot see this route being very effective.
Who can ban a sovereign China from exporting?
The Sea Empire blows up rail systems.
For instance, Germany's rail into Kirkuk triggered a World War.
Maybe a factor, but a small one.
True, the Berlin-Baghdad railway was a reason for the British to push for war, too.
Same with Nord Stream II, btw, the US blocked any business between Russia and Europe to steal the energy market and impose their gas and oil at twice the price.
Hi North Shipping transporting Vodka and Marijuana?
exactly, i thought the World had cut them off ?
Also whiskey, tobacco and lots of beer...
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It must have reset.
the times we live in keep getting more "interesting" by the day. Also shows the complementary strengths of Russia and China, the one with raw materials (and a lackadaisical attitude to the environment) and the other with manufacturing.
Dude, how do you know that "lackadaisical attitude". Did you make a research? Share the results please.
I’d be interested in a tour of a Russian nuclear icebreaker! I won’t hold my breath.
why? the US and Russia aren't at war, and the US has plenty of nuclear-powered vessels of their own; there's not a lot of "military secrecy"at play here, more commercial secrecy (maybe) as to design and building techniques
maybe you should look into setting up tours for interested people to go for rides with them once sanctions are lifted
Few years ago you could take an arctic tour to North pole on one of them
It is possible now at any time you want.
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