Sorry, I probably copy/pasted the build from another video and forgot to switch it. That trait choice is pretty much irrelevant in terms of output, so you're free to take stone form for an extra emergency button on your emergency button!
@@HardcoreCasualGW2 All good, that is what I did anyway. Just pointing it out for newer players wondering. Maybe change it to Stone Form in the build link, since that makes the most sense.
which of these weapons are locked into the weapon mastery from soto? I use soulbeast because I can actually use sword/axe and axe/warhorn without needing SoTO, wonder if this build would be useful to me if I went untammed.
For the purposes of this video, I included no weapon swap. You just camp sword/axe, which is a core weapon set. And just to clarify, unlike my usual open world content this is intended for use in raids/strikes.
Okay, I tried it out. It seems to be well below hammer and sword, closer to axe in damage. It seems like it would have good opening burst, but is a bit lacking in sustained damage. Also did maces and they were in the same ballpark as greatsword and axe.
Greatsword sorta sucks on Untamed because it's balanced around the two handed training trait, which increases it's damage and decreases it's cooldowns. You've just tested it and found out the end result, and there generally isn't a good way to work greatsword onto untamed because beastmastery is that bad of a traitline. I think its important to note that swapping weapons generally relies on an increase in value elsewhere to be truly beneficial- as much as I want greatsword to be good on untamed, it doesn't provide much of anything that is uniquely useful. If you need a block, take White Tiger or Stone Spirit for the Aegis. If you need mobility, hammer and sword both have movement skills. Axes have minor utility in 900 range skills, but you want to be in melee for those axe 5s and the shotgun blast axe 2s. Maces are the only weapon (if you're going for efficacy) that I'd swap in for sword/axe, because maces provide boons and group healing that, while not super necessary, is untouchable by any other (effective) power weapon set on untamed, and can generate value with soloheal squad comps. Greatsword actually has one of the better unleash ambush skills, but it's not enough to offset what is effectively 10% less damage and 20% higher cooldown that builds that can run beastmastery (aka power soulbeast) get on greatsword.
@@rainbowturtle I came to the same conclusions. I just tested it because somebody asked about it. I do bring maces as a swap when using this build. They're good for trash clearing since sword is limited in number of targets and they also bring huge CC on top of the utility from defensive boons, healing, and barrier. This is all of limited use in group content, but it does come into play sometimes. But in my open world build maces are amazing as they provide extremely powerful sustain as well as powering quickness via Enhancing Impact. This allows me to take Ferocious Symbiosis for 25% damage boost instead of Let Loose while still maintaining quickness uptime!
Oh now there's a question! Mask of the Silent, Runic Hunter's Shoulders and Coat, Stalker Gloves, Obsidian Leggings, Rebel Long Boots, Banner of the Bastion of Strength, and the weapons are Honor of Humanity and Krytan Axe.
Nice one, but you still have Clarion Bond in your linked build. Isn't this supposed to be a no-swap build?
Sorry, I probably copy/pasted the build from another video and forgot to switch it. That trait choice is pretty much irrelevant in terms of output, so you're free to take stone form for an extra emergency button on your emergency button!
@@HardcoreCasualGW2 All good, that is what I did anyway. Just pointing it out for newer players wondering. Maybe change it to Stone Form in the build link, since that makes the most sense.
which of these weapons are locked into the weapon mastery from soto? I use soulbeast because I can actually use sword/axe and axe/warhorn without needing SoTO, wonder if this build would be useful to me if I went untammed.
For the purposes of this video, I included no weapon swap. You just camp sword/axe, which is a core weapon set. And just to clarify, unlike my usual open world content this is intended for use in raids/strikes.
What do you think of greatsword on Power Untamed?
Well darn, I didn't try that!
Okay, I tried it out. It seems to be well below hammer and sword, closer to axe in damage. It seems like it would have good opening burst, but is a bit lacking in sustained damage. Also did maces and they were in the same ballpark as greatsword and axe.
Greatsword sorta sucks on Untamed because it's balanced around the two handed training trait, which increases it's damage and decreases it's cooldowns. You've just tested it and found out the end result, and there generally isn't a good way to work greatsword onto untamed because beastmastery is that bad of a traitline.
I think its important to note that swapping weapons generally relies on an increase in value elsewhere to be truly beneficial- as much as I want greatsword to be good on untamed, it doesn't provide much of anything that is uniquely useful. If you need a block, take White Tiger or Stone Spirit for the Aegis. If you need mobility, hammer and sword both have movement skills.
Axes have minor utility in 900 range skills, but you want to be in melee for those axe 5s and the shotgun blast axe 2s.
Maces are the only weapon (if you're going for efficacy) that I'd swap in for sword/axe, because maces provide boons and group healing that, while not super necessary, is untouchable by any other (effective) power weapon set on untamed, and can generate value with soloheal squad comps.
Greatsword actually has one of the better unleash ambush skills, but it's not enough to offset what is effectively 10% less damage and 20% higher cooldown that builds that can run beastmastery (aka power soulbeast) get on greatsword.
@@rainbowturtle I came to the same conclusions. I just tested it because somebody asked about it. I do bring maces as a swap when using this build. They're good for trash clearing since sword is limited in number of targets and they also bring huge CC on top of the utility from defensive boons, healing, and barrier.
This is all of limited use in group content, but it does come into play sometimes. But in my open world build maces are amazing as they provide extremely powerful sustain as well as powering quickness via Enhancing Impact. This allows me to take Ferocious Symbiosis for 25% damage boost instead of Let Loose while still maintaining quickness uptime!
What armor skins are you using?
Oh now there's a question! Mask of the Silent, Runic Hunter's Shoulders and Coat, Stalker Gloves, Obsidian Leggings, Rebel Long Boots, Banner of the Bastion of Strength, and the weapons are Honor of Humanity and Krytan Axe.
@@HardcoreCasualGW2 Nice. Even tho you can only see the back of your character, It still looks pretty cool 👍