It is no worries but something ye should know, i'm not sure if anyone else brought it up but at about 1-hour mark where you're shooting the Heavy SP Beamer, the Beam rule triggers off BOTH shots, not just 1. So you would have gotten to make 2 Beam roll trigger on every unit since you hit with both shots initially! Same with all Beam weapons, if it has multiple shots, beam will trigger for every initial hit.
"If a hit roll scores additional hits, those additional hits do not benefit from any other rule that triggered on the original attack’s hit roll." It's already been faq'd, the additional hits from the beam weapons don't auto wound I think most of my problem with the way the Votann rules have been written is that they have tried to streamline so many things that they have removed a ton of points of failure. Remember when they were trying to speed up the game by reducing the amount of dice rolls, well this is the outcome. No wound rerolling against them innately, auto-wounding means cut out the wound roll, magna rails ignoring invulns means no save rolls most of the time, auto advance army wide, etc. It all adds up to them being incredibly efficient.
Brilliant battle report gents 🍻 They should definitely make the vertically movement up levels and moving over walls more for the dwarfs, difficult terrain is fine but a short person in bulky armour would be hilarious to watch trying to climb a wall, unless they have someone toss them but it's a very closely guarded secret.
Want to be as strong as space marines but not be space marines, play Leagues of Votaan. Want to be shooty as Tau but not be squishy, play LoV. Want to be even more shooty than ad mech with crazy good guns but not look steampunk, play LoV. Want to punch stuff in close combat really hard but still have all the guns, play LoV…
Want to see crack jokes about being short in stature, play LoV want to have big beards but not be pretend vikings, grab some drawf heads from AoS and play LoV 😉
Winters brings the softest space marine list imaginable and its proof the leagues are broken when any army would have walked over this list 9_9. Post nerf Votaan are getting beaten up in every other battle report, but this is proof they're still the best army ever.
I love the paint job on the Dwarves, especially the bikes. This is literally the exact Dwarf army i have ordered except for the combat patrol which i plan to get next pay. I got the army set box already, and the rest other than the combat patrol is in the mail right now. :-D Eventually i plan to get a second Sagitaur and Landfortress.
Thank you guys so much for being the only channel so far, pitching the Votann against a reasonable army. This was actually intereesting and a well balanced game.
Something that was played slightly wrong in this: When the Hekaton unloaded its beam weapons, for every hit against the target unit, the units under the line also recieve a hit. So the two hits on the Intercessors would have also been two hits on the assault intercessors, dreadnought, and agressor. Same with the ion beamers, every hit against the assault intercessors should have been a hit against the agressor. They played it as only one hit on the non-target unit if one or more hits were rolled against the target unit.
If you run greater Thurian leagues and run their named Kahl. You can change 1 die roll to a 6 and it counts as an unmodified 6. That’s per turn or round. That hasn’t been faq because it’s separate from the auto wound counting as 6. So It basically means once per shooting faze something is taking 7 wound minimal and it’s spilling over.
Deathguard aré quite slow, but in combat the shred if they dont get counterpunched by beeserkers, their range game Is null, not even worth it. Tau have a really good shot, they can beat the list with full mobility crisis and good shield drone support, kroot hounds AND kroot karnivores stall the slow moving infantry while chipping at them. Their bikes tho, they can kill a unit of crisis if caught in the open, even if they are garanteed to die in the counterfire. Again, vottan aré really good, but top tier factions have the tools to dominante them
I wonder if these space dwarves are some play tests for possible what marines are going to be in the future. I like that medic rule a lot. I still think judgement tokens should be like marker lights for Tau. Great game as always
So just finished the video, and yes this was a much better use of Votann. Though the space dwarves could've lost and it still would've been a good showcase for them. Best vid I have seen of the space dwarves yet, good use of their firepower and some good use of melee. Btw while I know Winters was saying roll low there during the last charge, it sounded more like rolo. Just found it funny
Love your tables Winters :) they always inspire me when im building a table to remember the power of blending rocks! Votaan are brutal, but given a year they will find their balance :)
Pretty cool game overall. I like some of the rules for LoV, but they definitely need to be dialed back a little bit for TT. Looking forward to seeing them grow and change as the years go by.
Great battle. A few little mistakes but it’s because there’re so many little rules. That was very interesting. Everyone else seems to have been playing a casual list against a tuned tournament list so this was great. I imagine it’ll take a little while until the Votann players get up to speed with the experienced ones
@@angra5683 bad armor saves? Just cause the troops have a 4+ doesn’t mean the faction has bad armor saves. You are out of your mind if you think they should have 3+ with all there super strong defensive buffs. -1 to all AP, can’t re-roll wounds or damage against them, and first damage you take becomes zero. How can you say they aren’t durable with a straight face?
@@EmperorsChampion117 They're posting millions of comments and replies trying to make out as if the LoV are the worst, most weak and over-costed army. Meanwhile in reality, they're the total opposite of that.
@@absolutelyheretical7132 I dont see how a 12 point model having all these buffs and a good weapon could ever be considered over costed. People really don’t understand how cheap and effective they are compared to an intercessor let alone a tactical marine. For god sake they totally out compete similar costed troops like necrons and rangers
@@angra5683 ummm, they aré fine, i dont think they need any changes tbh. You could argue the thunderkyn aré their worst unit but they are still usefull
This game got me to think a bit on the Servo-Turrets. They are basically either less manouverable Ballistarii (with near identical loadouts-Cognis Las is better range, and damage D3+3), and somewhat of a Gladiator without the extras. But with BS 2+. (and 2+ save) They are a bit overcosted, I think, but if you just need las power, without the chassis; maybe they're not as bad as I thought.
ran my leagues army over the weekend (made entirely of old squat models). ran them as thurian. list : a high kahl, a brokhir iron master, 3 squads of hearthkyn (thayn, 8 ion, one rail) 3 squads of pioneers (2 MATR and 1beam), 3 squads of 5 plasma hearthguard, 1 hekaton with heavy conversion beam. poor guardsmen didnt know what hit them. the shenanigans with the judgement tokens got heavy towards the end. early game i used the pioneers to grab the midfield objectives and slogged the hearthguard in behind them. left 2 units of hearthkyn on the home-field objective, and marched the kahl and the iron master behind the hekaton with the last group of hearthkyn. turn 3 my opponent had 4 models left on the board at the beginning of his turn. it was pretty brutal. that being said, the decisive thing in the game was the 18" d6 shots from the grenade launchers on the hearthguard and what happens if you fire those into something with a stack of judgement tokens on it. 23 shots auto-wounding on 4s vs a squad of guardsmen is lethal. im expecting a nerf to the grenades once the general public gets access to the hearthguard models.
Darn it!!!! I had printed off a load of 3d crystals to stick on my bases given Votann being miners. Now it looks like I am copying someone else. Curse you pavlov!!!!! Nice army though - can't painting that quick. Since release... 14 minis?
Great game. The LoV look real good. They need to tone down the judgement tokens. When I played them it is not to bad with just the base rule. It is all the other ways to dish them out that makes them super broken. They really need to nerf all of the strats, WL traits etc that put a token on a unit to something like "if the unit doesn't already have a token" This way they can be used to get things started, but not ramping up things to 3 tokens on turn two.
Agreed. I think it's weird that they both get to be super-tough, really shooty, have brutal auto-wounding stuff, and not even be very slow. They even have ObSec bikes, it's ridiculous compared to the 3" move of WHFB dwarves.
seriously whoever designed the stats for Vottan at GW is the worst game designer(s) I've ever seen. The entire army breaks rules that Every Other Army follows. What a Sh!t show, great batrep tho!
When the aggressors decked the Hearthkyn in melee, killing the sergeant, Sultan then brought him back to withstand the Assault Intercessor attacks because he forgot sergeants have 2 wounds. But power fists do 2 damage. Did I miss something? Was a reduce damage rule used or something??
@@koinzellthegrayed7860 Hmm. Looks like their Terminator equivalents have that, but I thought void armour just gave AOC and no re-rolling wounds or damage. Mind you, it would make sense given the power level of this army.
maybe the high carl has the title balrog? or maybe the einhyr champion? or perhaps the heckachonk. The title pertaining to some hideous creature discovered in their planet cracking past that was overcome. great game either way boys. :) beautiful paintjob on the votaan.
I get the impression that Leagues may still be a tad too strong. Very high toughness, very punchy, with AoC on pretty much everything around. Their only real weakness seems to be very long range combat - this gives me some 4th edition Necron vibes. That said, good to see them in action - beautiful army, and they do have plenty of fun rules and gimmicks going for them. That was a spectacle of a battle.
I've played against Leagues a few times as craftworld eldar and reliably won every time. The real weakness of the Votann is their speed. They are certainly tough, but they need to be with how few mobility options they have.
No really I've seen many a Space Marine Batrap and depending on chapter some are way over the top and OP saves for everything even re-rolling failed saves etc etc high toughness etc etc so I would say LOV are on the same playing field as SM. I think a lot of complains are from sour gamers who hate the idea of an army that can Match SM lol. I saw on Batrap where a small unit of Terminators got blasted with 30 odd shots and their collection of saves protected them then waltz up to a massive warmachine and destroyed it and your telling me that's not OP and then SM players are complaining about LOV 🤣🤣🤣
As a new player, the hosts cynicism naming the Votann units not-*insert space marine unit* is really confusing but comical! I am starting with Votann, great video!
WINTERS!! Another great video guys. But winters I need to ask, what did you use for your bases? I am going to be making a Marines Errant army soon and the colour of the blue against whatever you did for the ground at their feet looks perfect, in my opinion. Help me Obi-Winters, your my only hope :D
Nice to see the Space Marines struggle as many Batraps they come across very OP. It was a good battle - but that Beam of death is nasty - Dark Eldar wouldn't stand a chance against LOV.
I remember when necrons had the most advanced handheld guns. Now we have glorified bolters, and a bunch of vertical challenged humans show Up with d2 guns for everyone. Good things GW has decided we dont have to kill to win games as necrons.
Can’t wait to take my votann to an event, their lovely models to build and paint and the lore is just brilliant (In my opinion) Great battle report btw 👍
I find it funny that the vast majority of the space dwarves have a norse theme for alot of their stuff, yet the land fortress has a greek myth based name (Hecatonchires)
@@SultanPlays40k hey thanks for the reply I really appreciate it oh and holy s*** it's actually sultan LMFAO didn't expect that thank you sir I enjoyed the game. And I appreciate the thousands of dollars you spend on plastic/time painting, to bring them to us have a great day buddy and tell winter's.. he's okay lol jp
Would be interesting to watch a LoV game without the use of judgement tokens. I still they'd hold up as incredibly strong, and probably more fun to play
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Great fun playing the new Leagues - there are a lot of rules to get my head around, sorry for any mistakes throughout!
Great job 👍 love the colour scheme
@@the_major_9117 thank you!!
It is no worries but something ye should know, i'm not sure if anyone else brought it up but at about 1-hour mark where you're shooting the Heavy SP Beamer, the Beam rule triggers off BOTH shots, not just 1. So you would have gotten to make 2 Beam roll trigger on every unit since you hit with both shots initially! Same with all Beam weapons, if it has multiple shots, beam will trigger for every initial hit.
Super entertaining! Thanks for making the work day go by a little faster!
@@TheCrookedMoon wow that's strong!!
"If a hit roll scores additional hits, those additional hits do not benefit from any other rule that triggered on the original attack’s hit roll." It's already been faq'd, the additional hits from the beam weapons don't auto wound
I think most of my problem with the way the Votann rules have been written is that they have tried to streamline so many things that they have removed a ton of points of failure. Remember when they were trying to speed up the game by reducing the amount of dice rolls, well this is the outcome. No wound rerolling against them innately, auto-wounding means cut out the wound roll, magna rails ignoring invulns means no save rolls most of the time, auto advance army wide, etc. It all adds up to them being incredibly efficient.
d6 rolloff at start, highest roll wins lowest roll buys the beers.
Brilliant battle report gents 🍻
They should definitely make the vertically movement up levels and moving over walls more for the dwarfs, difficult terrain is fine but a short person in bulky armour would be hilarious to watch trying to climb a wall, unless they have someone toss them but it's a very closely guarded secret.
Nice to see the little guys in the channel. Beautiful scenery. Beautifully painted models... Great stuff 👏
The glass canopies look awesome on those vehicles!
Want to be as strong as space marines but not be space marines, play Leagues of Votaan. Want to be shooty as Tau but not be squishy, play LoV. Want to be even more shooty than ad mech with crazy good guns but not look steampunk, play LoV. Want to punch stuff in close combat really hard but still have all the guns, play LoV…
You want to win? Play LoV
Want to see crack jokes about being short in stature, play LoV want to have big beards but not be pretend vikings, grab some drawf heads from AoS and play LoV 😉
Winters brings the softest space marine list imaginable and its proof the leagues are broken when any army would have walked over this list 9_9.
Post nerf Votaan are getting beaten up in every other battle report, but this is proof they're still the best army ever.
@@samuelbennett3441 They just won a GT....... By a landslide too post nerf lmao
Spends 700+ dollars to play leauges of votann just to paint them like an autistic 3 year old left alone with primed models and a bottle of contrast
Cthonian Berserkers are just sci-fi Slayers. You can't change my mind.
you are wrong, they are "Beardless" sci-fi slyers
Two beautifully painted armies on a glorious battlefield. Great battle report.
I love the paint job on the Dwarves, especially the bikes. This is literally the exact Dwarf army i have ordered except for the combat patrol which i plan to get next pay. I got the army set box already, and the rest other than the combat patrol is in the mail right now. :-D Eventually i plan to get a second Sagitaur and Landfortress.
Thank you guys so much for being the only channel so far, pitching the Votann against a reasonable army.
This was actually intereesting and a well balanced game.
Ah so that's where obesc bike and terminator rules went..... Into to the Votann faction.
Something that was played slightly wrong in this: When the Hekaton unloaded its beam weapons, for every hit against the target unit, the units under the line also recieve a hit. So the two hits on the Intercessors would have also been two hits on the assault intercessors, dreadnought, and agressor. Same with the ion beamers, every hit against the assault intercessors should have been a hit against the agressor. They played it as only one hit on the non-target unit if one or more hits were rolled against the target unit.
I really realy like your battle reports. You are like a fun teacher of the battle reports. I admire your sportsmanship.
If you run greater Thurian leagues and run their named Kahl. You can change 1 die roll to a 6 and it counts as an unmodified 6. That’s per turn or round. That hasn’t been faq because it’s separate from the auto wound counting as 6. So It basically means once per shooting faze something is taking 7 wound minimal and it’s spilling over.
The Votann firepower and grudge tokens are vicious! It would be interesting to see the Votann vs Tau or Death Guard.
Deathguard aré quite slow, but in combat the shred if they dont get counterpunched by beeserkers, their range game Is null, not even worth it. Tau have a really good shot, they can beat the list with full mobility crisis and good shield drone support, kroot hounds AND kroot karnivores stall the slow moving infantry while chipping at them. Their bikes tho, they can kill a unit of crisis if caught in the open, even if they are garanteed to die in the counterfire. Again, vottan aré really good, but top tier factions have the tools to dominante them
I wonder if these space dwarves are some play tests for possible what marines are going to be in the future. I like that medic rule a lot. I still think judgement tokens should be like marker lights for Tau. Great game as always
This was so funny: 56:00 " .. now the Universe has the Judgment Token. " .. It's You Dear TH-cam Viewer, You have the Judgment Token!" XD
I love that the argument about the kin being Xenos or not is lore accurate.
So just finished the video, and yes this was a much better use of Votann. Though the space dwarves could've lost and it still would've been a good showcase for them. Best vid I have seen of the space dwarves yet, good use of their firepower and some good use of melee.
Btw while I know Winters was saying roll low there during the last charge, it sounded more like rolo. Just found it funny
Just two mates enjoying a great game together. Reminds me of playing in the 90s.
22:34 - 6's to hit auto wound. The existing 6 counts as a separate hit but NOT an auto wound.
Love your tables Winters :) they always inspire me when im building a table to remember the power of blending rocks!
Votaan are brutal, but given a year they will find their balance :)
turns out, they are in the xenos section on the GW site 😆
Great scenery set up. Lovely table that. Game was awesome as well. The little guys look tough as hell
Just imagining the Marines stepping out of the way so it hits the cover the squad mates are in is amusing to me
Great introduction to the new army - lovely paint job Sultan! 👏
The Squat army is very nicely painted. I do like the new minis.
Great looking armies. And the table look fantastic too. Thanks for the video!
Pretty cool game overall. I like some of the rules for LoV, but they definitely need to be dialed back a little bit for TT.
Looking forward to seeing them grow and change as the years go by.
Always enjoy watching you and sultan play, cool table layout.
That Aggressor had me shouting for the emperor many times
Great battle. A few little mistakes but it’s because there’re so many little rules. That was very interesting. Everyone else seems to have been playing a casual list against a tuned tournament list so this was great. I imagine it’ll take a little while until the Votann players get up to speed with the experienced ones
So they have...none of the classic dwarf weaknesses? Not particularly slow, can actually use magic, aren't too expensive per model. Hmm
Also bad armor save, no resistance against mortal wounds (spells) and not particularly tough, i would say they are overcosted for their performance.
@@angra5683 bad armor saves? Just cause the troops have a 4+ doesn’t mean the faction has bad armor saves. You are out of your mind if you think they should have 3+ with all there super strong defensive buffs. -1 to all AP, can’t re-roll wounds or damage against them, and first damage you take becomes zero. How can you say they aren’t durable with a straight face?
@@EmperorsChampion117 They're posting millions of comments and replies trying to make out as if the LoV are the worst, most weak and over-costed army. Meanwhile in reality, they're the total opposite of that.
@@absolutelyheretical7132 I dont see how a 12 point model having all these buffs and a good weapon could ever be considered over costed. People really don’t understand how cheap and effective they are compared to an intercessor let alone a tactical marine. For god sake they totally out compete similar costed troops like necrons and rangers
@@angra5683 ummm, they aré fine, i dont think they need any changes tbh. You could argue the thunderkyn aré their worst unit but they are still usefull
Sultan thank you for pronouncing hearth correctly it's been doing my head in!
Yeah it's been pretty prevalent hasn't it.
This comment validates my existence
This game got me to think a bit on the Servo-Turrets. They are basically either less manouverable Ballistarii (with near identical loadouts-Cognis Las is better range, and damage D3+3), and somewhat of a Gladiator without the extras. But with BS 2+. (and 2+ save)
They are a bit overcosted, I think, but if you just need las power, without the chassis; maybe they're not as bad as I thought.
ran my leagues army over the weekend (made entirely of old squat models). ran them as thurian. list : a high kahl, a brokhir iron master, 3 squads of hearthkyn (thayn, 8 ion, one rail) 3 squads of pioneers (2 MATR and 1beam), 3 squads of 5 plasma hearthguard, 1 hekaton with heavy conversion beam. poor guardsmen didnt know what hit them. the shenanigans with the judgement tokens got heavy towards the end. early game i used the pioneers to grab the midfield objectives and slogged the hearthguard in behind them. left 2 units of hearthkyn on the home-field objective, and marched the kahl and the iron master behind the hekaton with the last group of hearthkyn. turn 3 my opponent had 4 models left on the board at the beginning of his turn. it was pretty brutal. that being said, the decisive thing in the game was the 18" d6 shots from the grenade launchers on the hearthguard and what happens if you fire those into something with a stack of judgement tokens on it. 23 shots auto-wounding on 4s vs a squad of guardsmen is lethal. im expecting a nerf to the grenades once the general public gets access to the hearthguard models.
Nice to see Sultan get something after his bad luck in the four-way a couple of months ago....
Forget "for the Emperor!", 45:09 is my new chant!
Loving the sandbag heart on the center ruin 😊 little space marine / dwarf cuddle corner
I really appreciate the energy you bring to your battle reports Winters. Keep up the good work!
Thanks
Those complex game boards must take awhile to set up and put away.
Darn it!!!! I had printed off a load of 3d crystals to stick on my bases given Votann being miners. Now it looks like I am copying someone else. Curse you pavlov!!!!!
Nice army though - can't painting that quick. Since release... 14 minis?
Space Dwarves sporting a Van Saar colour scheme? Nice!
Squats might be more human than Space Marines.
Great game. The LoV look real good. They need to tone down the judgement tokens. When I played them it is not to bad with just the base rule. It is all the other ways to dish them out that makes them super broken. They really need to nerf all of the strats, WL traits etc that put a token on a unit to something like "if the unit doesn't already have a token" This way they can be used to get things started, but not ramping up things to 3 tokens on turn two.
Agreed. I think it's weird that they both get to be super-tough, really shooty, have brutal auto-wounding stuff, and not even be very slow. They even have ObSec bikes, it's ridiculous compared to the 3" move of WHFB dwarves.
seriously whoever designed the stats for Vottan at GW is the worst game designer(s) I've ever seen. The entire army breaks rules that Every Other Army follows. What a Sh!t show, great batrep tho!
LoV have some great strengths, but they are very slow and they do suffer against great melee armies that can get on them.
Magma rail ignore invul saves, few times a invul was rolled against it.
Stunning table!!!! Great work!!
Love these little doods. I find them plenty grimdark enough.
There is a lot if confusion over the auto hit and multi wound mechanics and how they interact
When the aggressors decked the Hearthkyn in melee, killing the sergeant, Sultan then brought him back to withstand the Assault Intercessor attacks because he forgot sergeants have 2 wounds. But power fists do 2 damage. Did I miss something? Was a reduce damage rule used or something??
Pretty sure the Hearthkyn are -1 damage received.
@@koinzellthegrayed7860 Hmm. Looks like their Terminator equivalents have that, but I thought void armour just gave AOC and no re-rolling wounds or damage. Mind you, it would make sense given the power level of this army.
Man I am a real fan of the 13th. Do you keep the firstborn side at MWGs bunker or did you just happen to take those models over for the games I saw?
maybe the high carl has the title balrog? or maybe the einhyr champion? or perhaps the heckachonk. The title pertaining to some hideous creature discovered in their planet cracking past that was overcome. great game either way boys. :) beautiful paintjob on the votaan.
Excellent as always boys!
I get the impression that Leagues may still be a tad too strong.
Very high toughness, very punchy, with AoC on pretty much everything around.
Their only real weakness seems to be very long range combat - this gives me some 4th edition Necron vibes.
That said, good to see them in action - beautiful army, and they do have plenty of fun rules and gimmicks going for them.
That was a spectacle of a battle.
I've played against Leagues a few times as craftworld eldar and reliably won every time. The real weakness of the Votann is their speed. They are certainly tough, but they need to be with how few mobility options they have.
No really I've seen many a Space Marine Batrap and depending on chapter some are way over the top and OP saves for everything even re-rolling failed saves etc etc high toughness etc etc so I would say LOV are on the same playing field as SM. I think a lot of complains are from sour gamers who hate the idea of an army that can Match SM lol. I saw on Batrap where a small unit of Terminators got blasted with 30 odd shots and their collection of saves protected them then waltz up to a massive warmachine and destroyed it and your telling me that's not OP and then SM players are complaining about LOV 🤣🤣🤣
Not sure why the voltann hearthkyn warriors did not have the "Pan spectral scanner" to ignore light cover. For 5 pts it is auto-included.
He's using the conveshion beamer on the tanks wrong he should be shooting the infantry behind the walker, that way he would hit the walker AS WELL.
This is the most 6’s rolled I’ve ever seen.
The captain went down like a hero
not sure if he paid the points for it but the bike looked like it had the spotlight which would mean he can ignore dense cover
The extra toughness subfaction bonus is sooooo good when you see it in action!
Espiecially on the vehícules.
It’s genuinely tempting me to change my mind about what to use. And I was so certain I wanted to use the Kronos Hegemony stuff!
i would love to see a rematch of this game using 10th rules
Those leagues of whatever look like a bad 80's toy line.
Yaaayyyy! Sultanns Votann!!
LoV should have built-in invulnerable saves since they're short and have smaller hitboxes.
Man the terrain is aces in this one!
Lovely paintjobs
I love your channel. Please add chapters to your video for phases to make it easier for me and others to watch piecemeal.
As a new player, the hosts cynicism naming the Votann units not-*insert space marine unit* is really confusing but comical! I am starting with Votann, great video!
Sounds like when the inevitable nerf FAQ comes out, it's basically gonna have to rewrite the entire codex.
WINTERS!! Another great video guys. But winters I need to ask, what did you use for your bases? I am going to be making a Marines Errant army soon and the colour of the blue against whatever you did for the ground at their feet looks perfect, in my opinion. Help me Obi-Winters, your my only hope :D
Stirling mud. Dry brush light brown, then touches of dawnstone grey across 75% of the base, leaving brown patches here n there.
@@wintersSEO your a legend!! Cheers mate
Nice to see the Space Marines struggle as many Batraps they come across very OP. It was a good battle - but that Beam of death is nasty - Dark Eldar wouldn't stand a chance against LOV.
I remember when necrons had the most advanced handheld guns.
Now we have glorified bolters, and a bunch of vertical challenged humans show Up with d2 guns for everyone.
Good things GW has decided we dont have to kill to win games as necrons.
Can’t wait to take my votann to an event, their lovely models to build and paint and the lore is just brilliant (In my opinion)
Great battle report btw 👍
Great game💪🏼
I realy like these littlle space dwarfs👌🏼
Winters and Co., this battle report doesn't seem to be on DZTV??
Rock and Stone to the League of Votann!
Always a joy to watch your BatReps, and a Winters/Sultan collaboration is gold. :)
Haven't finished the video yet, but it is proving to be a better trial by fire for the Votann in comparison to the one done by the Titans.
I find it funny that the vast majority of the space dwarves have a norse theme for alot of their stuff, yet the land fortress has a greek myth based name (Hecatonchires)
"Space dwarves from SpaaAAAAAaaaacccceeee..."
I wonder how you color the clear plastic panels like that 🤔 just use shades or inks maybe??
I use Vallejo Magenta as a very thin glaze over the top!
@@SultanPlays40k hey thanks for the reply I really appreciate it oh and holy s*** it's actually sultan LMFAO didn't expect that thank you sir I enjoyed the game. And I appreciate the thousands of dollars you spend on plastic/time painting, to bring them to us have a great day buddy and tell winter's.. he's okay lol jp
@@sapper12b71 Cheers
@@wintersSEO haha awesome happy Halloween friend.
You can try Tamiya clears too, to "tint" canopies like that.
The Votann player needs to melt his dice, they seemed so bad lol
I propose the Name Hekachonc Sandcastle!
another great bat rep. great scheme on the votann
I remember when vibro cannons acted like beam weapons back in 2nd. Its beam ability was removed in 3rd as it was said to be to powerful. Hmmmm
Can the grimnyr actually cast three spells or know three and cast 2 and do a psychic action? Just want to know what relic you were using
Great game. The new LoV models are very cool
Would be interesting to watch a LoV game without the use of judgement tokens. I still they'd hold up as incredibly strong, and probably more fun to play
I believe no invulnerable saves vs magna rail
As i remember, you can cast Psychic even if you fall back
You cannot
@@AngryAcolyte you are rigth, my mistake
Imagine if Sultans rolls had been better first turn 😮😅
Once again, Winters saves the day !
"That´s what she said" :D
Great game! Even though Sultan's rolls were pretty bad. Spacey swarfs are good :)
Love the Batreps!
Winters, still the best damn BRs, amazing game host and bloody legend!
I remember people bit**ing about rules bloat back in 6th edition😂
Ugh, that no re rolls to wound is so dumb.
52:00 i realized Serg has 2 wounds
Power fist been 2 damage be like yeah yeah fuck me