The hilarious part is not a single person mentioned they cut some fairways wider and made it pretty friendly. I play solo rounds all the time and I've only lost one disc this year. The course is playing really nice this year
@@Chris-gd3tg No that wasn’t my comment. And I’m old also. But I don’t get upset about comments of discs in my bag from a channel that is known for cracking jokes. Yes my disc golf game is terrible. But you trying to dunk on that fact is hilarious when I say how bad I am in every video i’m in.
Am I the only one who greets heinhold’s 22 spotters with a shrug? Ooooh! 22 spotters! And…? Do you want a pat on the head for running a professional event at a professional standard? Enough with the “look how far we’ve come” and “back when I played…” bs. If you want to be taken seriously as a professional sport, provide professional conditions where people can do their jobs. If the rules have a time limit for looking for lost discs, if the concern is backed up cards because of the rough, if the concern is spotting a lie on a blind OB, then we shouldn’t be expected to applaud over some arbitrary number of spotters and feign being impressed. For the number of spotters needed, you need what you need. If that means 6 on one hole, then put 6 on one hole so the event runs smoothly.
Love this content! Thank you fellas! One thing I don’t like is player’s constantly complaining about courses. It’s a regular theme and I understand why but sometimes it just seems a bit much. It’s going to take a long time and regular adjustments and feedback to get the sport in to a category that makes it profitable for coverage and amenities. We have come a long way since the 90’s and it’s not easy. I feel like the public manner that critiques are voiced isn’t super helpful. Just my take.
you have to be accurate AND throw far to score well...that leaves out most of the field. pros crying about rough is funny!! such a bummer guys that throw 700' can't win golf tournaments very often because they can't stay on the fairway
CATCHPHRASE! Edit: It's worth noting, that hole design is the art of multi-disciplinary compromise, maximized. And, good course design is obvious when you experience it. Bad design is similarly obvious, and is why badly designed courses don't get a lot of play; No re-playability factor. This is why everyone thinks they're a great course designer.
Just like what Simon did to 16 last year, McBeth did to much of the course when he shot his -18. The changes were made to make par meaningful on some holes and in some cases were overdone.
I don’t hate the OB but I do hate 4 rounds on the same course. At least in ball golf they can move the tees and also change the hole location every day so the course can be set up differently. But 4 days of frisbees playing the exact same shots every day just doesn’t sound interesting
Great vid! I generally like your short videos, but I much prefer this type where you properly back up your claims with the source, over the ones where you claim you heard someone say something at some point. Also while we're at it: can we ever get the actual shot you're talking about on screen while you're talking about it on the tournament recaps. Just seems lazy to have a random montage and you're talking about this incredible save or whatever, and there's a completely different guy tapping out a 15 footer on screen...
Def a bad look on the course imo....as a Michigan/Kensington local I think it looks terrible to have the course trimmed every 3 years and the like gooseman said this is natural on its terrible
Natural OB is FAR superior to man made OB. The issue is that the OB is in the circle. That shouldn't happen imo. You should get a clear 10m all around at the very least
This sounds so whiny. I mean I'm just happy this Sport is free at most public parks and has almost no barrier to entry. Cry me a river and throw a disc over it
Everyone calling the golfer whiners is the problem. Disc golf is held to such a low standard as a professional sport. You point blank dont see this kind of crap in ball golf. They pay attention to the details because the details MATTER.
@@michaelmaniloff9297 and the reason disc golf will never HAVE a big budget is because stuff like this flies. No pun intended. In other sports, they dont allow these kinds of oversights and proactively work towards preventing them. Disc golf dgaf.
@chrisbruchak4519 Disc golf is a young sport and is very niche. It is what it is. People are definitely complaining about everything lately. What's exactly the issue this time? Bad rough or some trees punishing good shots?
@chrisbruchak4519 hey did you happen to see the Packers Eagles game last night? Players were slipping all over the field. The conditions of the course or field is not an issue specific to disc golf.
Somebody call these guys a WHAMBULANCE
Complaining just became “uncool”
The hilarious part is not a single person mentioned they cut some fairways wider and made it pretty friendly. I play solo rounds all the time and I've only lost one disc this year. The course is playing really nice this year
Click bait x1000
Disc Golf Drama is what you should rename this jawn.
What’s clickbait? Was there not examples of pros complaining about this course for you?
So you shit on older players right? Was that your aviar comment? And trust me man, we’ve all seen you throw. You may need an aviar.
@swisscheesediscgolf its all good big boy, get your money and keep on going, but... don't act like you're not thriving on drama and click bait.
@@BIZARBIES you ok,sally?
@@Chris-gd3tg No that wasn’t my comment. And I’m old also. But I don’t get upset about comments of discs in my bag from a channel that is known for cracking jokes. Yes my disc golf game is terrible. But you trying to dunk on that fact is hilarious when I say how bad I am in every video i’m in.
Players complain but somebody still destroys the course. Isn’t that what the viewers want to see? Yes I want to see carnage and prevalence.
Am I the only one who greets heinhold’s 22 spotters with a shrug? Ooooh! 22 spotters! And…? Do you want a pat on the head for running a professional event at a professional standard? Enough with the “look how far we’ve come” and “back when I played…” bs. If you want to be taken seriously as a professional sport, provide professional conditions where people can do their jobs. If the rules have a time limit for looking for lost discs, if the concern is backed up cards because of the rough, if the concern is spotting a lie on a blind OB, then we shouldn’t be expected to applaud over some arbitrary number of spotters and feign being impressed. For the number of spotters needed, you need what you need. If that means 6 on one hole, then put 6 on one hole so the event runs smoothly.
Love this content! Thank you fellas! One thing I don’t like is player’s constantly complaining about courses. It’s a regular theme and I understand why but sometimes it just seems a bit much. It’s going to take a long time and regular adjustments and feedback to get the sport in to a category that makes it profitable for coverage and amenities. We have come a long way since the 90’s and it’s not easy. I feel like the public manner that critiques are voiced isn’t super helpful. Just my take.
I think you watch this channel too much.
I used to be a local and you could not believe how bad the russian olives used to be. A bad shot was an immediate lost disc lol.
Did you fire Swiss cheese? Budget cuts
Holes in the Budget.
I don’t lose disc’s period. I played toboggan solo this year and lost two discs and quit on hole 9. It’s next level
Ah another saga in 'the course is bad, the pro tour is terrible, players stirring up controversy' loop.
you have to be accurate AND throw far to score well...that leaves out most of the field. pros crying about rough is funny!! such a bummer guys that throw 700' can't win golf tournaments very often because they can't stay on the fairway
Players having to hit landing zones vs grip and rip. Oh no...
This channel is so negative. I guess click bait gets views.
Welcome to Michigan everyone.
Weeeeewooooooo weeeeeeewooooo someone hear the whambulance?
CATCHPHRASE!
Edit: It's worth noting, that hole design is the art of multi-disciplinary compromise, maximized.
And, good course design is obvious when you experience it.
Bad design is similarly obvious, and is why badly designed courses don't get a lot of play; No re-playability factor.
This is why everyone thinks they're a great course designer.
Just like what Simon did to 16 last year, McBeth did to much of the course when he shot his -18.
The changes were made to make par meaningful on some holes and in some cases were overdone.
I don’t hate the OB but I do hate 4 rounds on the same course. At least in ball golf they can move the tees and also change the hole location every day so the course can be set up differently. But 4 days of frisbees playing the exact same shots every day just doesn’t sound interesting
Gannon Buhr win i dream that yesterday:)
Maybe the course would be better and there'd be less complaining if Heinold spent more time talking to top 30 players and less time spiking his hair.
there are so many nice courses!! why here?!?
having briars right on the side of the fairway of ANY disc golf course sucks! what the hell? this looks bad
Bonus birdies...
Birdy is a reward for good play.
Pro players think holes must be easy birdies. Vs having to try...
Mama's Boy...that's a good nickname 😂
Great vid! I generally like your short videos, but I much prefer this type where you properly back up your claims with the source, over the ones where you claim you heard someone say something at some point. Also while we're at it: can we ever get the actual shot you're talking about on screen while you're talking about it on the tournament recaps. Just seems lazy to have a random montage and you're talking about this incredible save or whatever, and there's a completely different guy tapping out a 15 footer on screen...
Def a bad look on the course imo....as a Michigan/Kensington local I think it looks terrible to have the course trimmed every 3 years and the like gooseman said this is natural on its terrible
Why do you have to shit on an Aviar? Kinda a dick thing to say.
This is what I would say your channel does better than everyone else. The inside scoop from the players about how the sport can improve. Top Notch!
Yes, this will have an effect on players. Out shape players that aren't actual "athletes"? 🤔 I'd say so....
"Im Jefferson, and i smell." That feels right, dude. Or "I'm Jefferson, and my favorite disc is a Berg top with a Glitch bottom. I call it the Bitch."
Yo lol does Heinold have LA Looks in his hair?
The first 10 seconds shows the you’re just editing for dramatic overemphasis and I love it hahahaha
Love this type of content
Whah whah whah
what do u mean u dont have a catchfrase???? LETS GET A SHOUT OUT TO ...... everyfucking time they know and we are annoyed..
I've enjoyed watching this course played 2 or 3 times and this year it just looks uncared for and scruffy. Such a shame.
can anyone translate for the dude that wears pants made for his 11 yr old brother?
I think it’s counterproductive for you to roast the other creators even if you are technically promoting their stuff. Just seems weird idk
Natural OB is FAR superior to man made OB. The issue is that the OB is in the circle. That shouldn't happen imo. You should get a clear 10m all around at the very least
It's more about losing discs and backups. I don't like it personally.
No. Sorry. 😂
As a person who lives in an area with lots of natural ob and little real ob I love it and hate you lose a ton of disc but it's fun to try to scramble
7 minutes into the video three sets of advertisements thanks for wasting my time.
Psh. Stay in the Fairways noobs. 🤣🤣🤣 I'd end up with zero drivers by the back 9. Or I'd still be stuck in a shrub on hole 8.
This sounds so whiny. I mean I'm just happy this Sport is free at most public parks and has almost no barrier to entry. Cry me a river and throw a disc over it
1 minute no views bro’s fell off
Everyone calling the golfer whiners is the problem. Disc golf is held to such a low standard as a professional sport. You point blank dont see this kind of crap in ball golf. They pay attention to the details because the details MATTER.
Budgets matter.
@@michaelmaniloff9297 and the reason disc golf will never HAVE a big budget is because stuff like this flies. No pun intended. In other sports, they dont allow these kinds of oversights and proactively work towards preventing them. Disc golf dgaf.
@chrisbruchak4519 Disc golf is a young sport and is very niche. It is what it is. People are definitely complaining about everything lately. What's exactly the issue this time? Bad rough or some trees punishing good shots?
@chrisbruchak4519 hey did you happen to see the Packers Eagles game last night? Players were slipping all over the field. The conditions of the course or field is not an issue specific to disc golf.
My god so many crybabies lol
Stupid open course again
Whine much?
Nate heinold should stop designing courses
He didn't design this one. 😂
lmao it wasnt even just tobaggan it was ALL of the metropark courses holy fuck they were ALL SO THICCCCCC