Walking Roman Watling Street with Iain Sinclair & Andrew Kötting

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  • @dickvansteijn4115
    @dickvansteijn4115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Makes me love London even more. A beautifull Roman pottary shard found while mudlarking the Thames by a late friend of mine sits on my mantlepiece. 2000 years in the river. It makes me feel humble. RIP Geoffrey.

  • @4thEyeVision
    @4thEyeVision 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I would just like to say thank you John for the wonderful videos i have seen about 90% of them now. And i just love them all. Your walks are so cathartic and beautiful everything about them is spectacular the music everything. I only came to see them as i used to live in Barking and saw the flood defence thumbnail. I used to see that flood defence from my bedroom window as a child. But ever went there so thank you for taking me there. And i went to the school next to the Abbey Ruins so i had wonderful memories come back to me on that video. And i lived in Becontree for a time just close to Parsloes Park so more wonderful memories. And lots of your videos around London have been truly awesome. And wow you can walk some long distances your a walking machine. So thank you, thank you, thank you, i will be sad When i have seen all you vid's as i will be just waiting for more. So look forward to your next walk. Big THANKS for such a great TH-cam Channel.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thank you so much for that wonderful comment - it's a real pleasure to be able to share my walks with you, and really appreciate you taking the time to watch them. The next one should be up on Sunday - a fantastic walk I did at the weekend from Theydon Bois to Cheshunt via Waltham Abbey, then I have the other walk I did with Iain Sinclair for the Watling Street project were we walked from the Bronze Age burial mound at Shooters Hill down through Charlton and Woolwich to the Thames

    • @4thEyeVision
      @4thEyeVision 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      :) thanks for the reply.I have just been watching your Chiltern Hills and Central Line Loop vid's this evening. Its Great to hear of more fab videos to come

  • @morriganwitch
    @morriganwitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally the biggest energy line from Alexandra Palace to Crystal Palace gets me too xxx

  • @brian_lavelle
    @brian_lavelle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant little film, John. It’s easy to see what an absolute joy it is to go walking with these guys. Very envious!

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks very much Brian - I've got another to edit just of me and Iain walking down through Charlton. I do realise how lucky I am

  • @TracyPicabia
    @TracyPicabia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you stand on that spot @3:00 You can't 'actually feel the giant ripple of energy' it's more a ripple of sceptical refusal to lament the rosey tinted magical past which wasn't

  • @AMcF54
    @AMcF54 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just watched this film again, for the umpteenth time. It never loses its magic. And, you are keeping the ley lines alive, John, by walking them. Thank you.

  • @Cornwall248
    @Cornwall248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These are so good. Thank you .

  • @iano5957
    @iano5957 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant film John. As are all the others! As you say, great to walk with Iain and Andrew - can see why you enjoy it so much. Keep up the good work.

  • @hArtyTruffle
    @hArtyTruffle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You walked past my house [flat]! Didn’t realise that John Cade was represented in that mural. Thanks so much for these John. Been walking in the green space outback to prep for longer walks in London and surrounding areas. Your videos are likely to save my life 🙏

  • @MarkWright75
    @MarkWright75 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much John, a highly enjoyable watch!

  • @octagonseventynine1253
    @octagonseventynine1253 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stunning little documentary.

  • @JagBetty
    @JagBetty 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's always something that inspires me in your videos John, it's 20:00 here, freezing and dark but after watching this I just want to go out for a stroll.
    I was wondering when the name of Julian Cope would pop up in one of your films!

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Jag Betty that's wonderful to hear Jag, many thanks. Yes, Julian Cope, I encouraged his publisher to do a re-print of Modern Antiquarian then never got one, now they're about £200

    • @JagBetty
      @JagBetty 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Rogers I've got his European megalithic which I found in the works for £10, couldn't believe my luck. Seen him live a few times

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jag Betty great find Jag, I remember seeing some of those when I was out walking, when I went back they'd all gone

  • @rupertferguson9673
    @rupertferguson9673 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A few of the promised points relating to this video John, which you have had to wait almost a fortnight for, something for which I apologize. Starting with the 'Paleolithic' burial mounds, these are in fact part of an Anglo-Saxon Pagan cemetery which has been extensively excavated since as far back as the eighteenth century:
    www.royalparks.org.uk/parks/greenwich-park/things-to-see-and-do/ancient-greenwich/anglo-saxon-barrow-cemetery
    The principal point of controversy that hangs around this particular cluster of burials relates to the fact that the Saxons, or more likely Jutes, who founded it, were reusing a Bronze Age burial site that is Pre-Roman in origin. More here for those who are interested:
    www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=36733
    With regard to Wat Tyler and the Peasants' Revolt, the Peasants' Revolt of 1381, which happened as a result of the original Poll Tax, and Cade's Rebellion of 1450, were two completely different uprisings which took place for similar but not entirely the same reasons in different centuries and during the reign of different kings. Both rebel leaders have an association with Blackheath however in that Cade is associated with Jack Cade's Cavern, which lies directly between the Heath itself and Greenwich Park, under the lawn of what is now Hollymount House, whilst Wat Tyler, and later the Chartists, as well as participants in the Cornish Rebellion of 1497, have recorded links with an ancient mound on the Heath known as Whitfield's Mount:
    runner500.wordpress.com/tag/whitfields-mount/
    Whitfield's Mount and the now largely vanished maze in the grounds of what is now Morden College, which stands at the top of Maze Hill, were the focus of the other vanished landscape which preceded the vanished landscape referred to here by Sinclair during his commentaries. Of additional interest is the fact that the original architect commissioned to build the churches later constructed by Hawksmoor was James Gibbs, a Catholic, who actually designed St. Mary-le-Strand, which is at the centre of the matrix of Hawksmoor churches in the map appended to Sinclair's own 'Lud Heat'. The ritual landscape that it replaced included the ancient Maypole that lies directly underneath the tower of St. Mary-le-Strand which is the Western equivalent of the other Maypole which was formerly set up each year directly opposite the church of St. Andrew Undershaft in Leadenhall Street. There is quite a lot about this in Nigel Pennick's 'Landscape, Lines, Leys and Limits in Old England', which, although out of print for some time, should be accessible via the British Library catalogue:
    bnb.data.bl.uk/doc/person/PennickNigel

  • @wyattsurges5647
    @wyattsurges5647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when your with your powerful squad it is Magic

  • @josephinejeffery
    @josephinejeffery 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jack Cade is from my area, the local pub was named after him

  • @stewartconacher6552
    @stewartconacher6552 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another enjoyable watch.

  • @BaronMichaelDeBlone1066
    @BaronMichaelDeBlone1066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A theme park without a theme versus the energy of a ley line. That's a tough one to call Mr Sinclair ; I

  • @Imperialcavalier
    @Imperialcavalier 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! John, do you remember "Neverwhere" by Neil Gaimen? There were feelings of that in parts of this video! I have a digitised version of the BBC production, feel like going back to watch!

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Imperialcavalier do you I've never read the book despite constantly being recommended- must look up the BBC adaptation

  • @dandedee1
    @dandedee1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Are those burial mounds the ones in Greenwich Park or are they actually on Blackheath?

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a great question Floyd - I believe they were on Blackheath

    • @dandedee1
      @dandedee1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Rogers wow, im researching Londons ancient sites and ive never heard of such mounds on Blackheath, i must investigate further! Cheers John, im new to your work and im loving it!

    • @stephengraham5099
      @stephengraham5099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dandedee1 They are in Greenwich Park which was enclosed in 1433.

    • @dandedee1
      @dandedee1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephengraham5099 cheers, that's what I thought

  • @Backwardlooking
    @Backwardlooking ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating but completely alienating to a countryman. Reminded myself of 17 Century personalities and ley lines.

  • @trevormadden4301
    @trevormadden4301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lads Ye went the wrong way in New cross . Watlin Street i think carries on through peckham ,camberwel and to the river at Vauxhall

  • @borderlands6606
    @borderlands6606 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is like those childhood adventures with the group where everything is one long riff. We unlearn its rules as the myth we call reality imposes its own story, and I for one mourn its passing. It's good to see alternative narratives being explored without being subdued by the mockery of the official one.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Borderlands thanks Borderlands, and brilliantly described

  • @oldgit4260
    @oldgit4260 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can anyone go on these walks with Ian?

  • @stewartwatling4221
    @stewartwatling4221 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting video... obviously because I'm a Watling.

  • @shaunkerr5175
    @shaunkerr5175 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brian Catling ain't heard of him.in some time ! Top gent and writer 🤔

  • @englishbobuk
    @englishbobuk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha ha! This is great! Thanks, mate!

  • @jweitzenheimer
    @jweitzenheimer ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh for a steadycam

  • @MeTheRob
    @MeTheRob 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is not Celine Dion.
    (PS : I will watch this tomorrow, when I am sober.)

  • @MrJoncando
    @MrJoncando 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Iain Sinclair has been banging on about Hawksmoor churches since the 7ts with Lud Heat, its a highly entertaining subject for an after dinner chinwag, but its pie-in-the sky, hardly dialectical materialism, the Marxist theory that maintains the material basis of a reality constantly changing in a dialectical process & the priority of matter over mind..each to their own, m8, truth lies in the eyes of the beholder I suppose_

  • @rodjones117
    @rodjones117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As so often happens, Sinclair is either mistaken or changes facts to suit his agenda.
    The two "towers" of the old Royal Naval College are in fact domes, and were designed by Wren, not Hawkesmoor. He's always doing this sort of thing.
    I like John Rogers' films but he's too credulous when it comes to Sinclair's pronouncements.

  • @kallekula1860
    @kallekula1860 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Started out good...but then some nutter had to mention Ley lines. Enough for me to stop watching.

    • @rodjones117
      @rodjones117 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sinclair gets a lot of this stuff wrong anyway.