I think it should be mentioned that even if you time the ARB after the backflip on that perfect frame, sometimes that still gives you not the right height for the SCARB. While if you do the fastfall one, you always get the right height, as long as you time it perfectly.
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I got off of Falcon because his neutral was too linear and relied on easy to read confirms. This mixes up his game and makes him safe on sheild. May have to pick my boy up again.
Idk if anybody else does this but i sometimes use a aerial raptor boot to mix up my recover off stage and if they don’t shield I can get a grounded falcon kick as a follow-up at low to mid percents (if they don’t jump out of the raptor boost hit stun)
This will probably not ever be seen, but I was bored and am addicted to labbing a little bit while attempting to co-main dk and falcon, and I found out that the top battlefield platform can be scarb'd off of onto the side plats, as well as you can scarb from on platform on ps2 which seems like an interesting option for hitting someone who just hit your shield on platform if they don't have any options fast enough to hit you again so they shield, and then you come down with scarb(in theory at least I could be completely wrong and no-one would hold shield long enough for it). You can also use fullhop to scarb onto a platform which I feel is an interesting surprise since it isn't uncommon for someone to shield when on platform. I was trying to see if you can scarb from the platforms on small battlefield, but I couldn't get it to work sadly. Also I end up sometimes calling SCARB SCARaB because it rolls of the tongue a bit easier for me and it kinda works for falcon I think with the a from raptor boost being used with the r(mostly just personal taste though). That is what I have now, if anyone actually reads this thank you and have a great day!
Unfortunately no, there's a mechanic that prevents you from grabbing somebody after you inflict shield stun on them that extends a bit past the shield stun. You can do a dash grab though, which works because it's slightly slower, but that's going to lose to an oos option anyway, so it's a mixup at best.
Pit has a similar tech and you can set it up by ledge rolling, side b'ing off and then it will ledge cancel and you side b back for the scarb. Might be useful but not as useful as falcon cuz he has a higher jump and less endlag
I appreciate the cool new precise tool discovery and the lab work that went into it, but well....it starts with aerial raptor boost. That's a 25 frame startup point blank. Slower than a raw Belmont f-smash. It just gets demolished by either spotdodge or the opponent hitting you out of it, which they have ample time to do. Conditioning exists and there are ways to land it, but a good neutral tool this is not.
So I was playing against a Kirby and did an ARB on the perfect frame that is required to do SCARB and even without the Kirby holding shield the ARB still got canceled. Just for context the Kirby was is the air holding neutral B. I think the wind box from neutral B might have something to do with it but it didn't seem like it. EDIT: nvm, pretty sure it's what you did at 10:05 but the fact that I got it even when they weren't in shield is still significant
Grace And Glory Smash| yeah but I don't have a capture card or anything like that so should I just post it on shared content? EDIT: looking at the replay they also weren't even at max range for Falcon to fall
Grace And Glory Smash| I don't have an SD card (or at least that I know of) and phone quality is, well phone quality, so are you fine with me posting it to shared content? If you are it will be posted with the name "For Grace and Glory"
There's a hidden mechanic that prevents you from grabbing someone within a certain window after you personally dealt shield stun to them. I don't remember all of the specifics offhand, but if you try and grab someone after a SCARB it'll just pass right through them.
@@GraceAndGlorySmash Darn, i was really excited to find out ganon can also Tokyo drift after seeing your vid on it, so i figured I'd see what else transfers over. Thanks though and keep up the good work!
Soooo, if I see a falcon going SCARB, I just have to let go of shield and punish out of it? LoLOloloL Damn I've mained Falcon in 64, Mele e and now I still use him to cheese newbs, but why does he have to be so fucking mediocre while being the coolest character.
is not practical, a good opponent wont let you do anything like this, there is no time i a smash game to think on this, i get it, making special moves like wavedashing back in melee was good and also brawl with dasch c cancel, but this is out of the way, falcon just need hes dash grab back i nthe game and its all he needs.
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Lookin like a shulk main with these acronyms
1:03 no, this isn't how your supposed to play the game
I think it should be mentioned that even if you time the ARB after the backflip on that perfect frame, sometimes that still gives you not the right height for the SCARB. While if you do the fastfall one, you always get the right height, as long as you time it perfectly.
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Useful tech but you gotta show the actual tech right in the beginning of the video lol you took way too long
I got off of Falcon because his neutral was too linear and relied on easy to read confirms. This mixes up his game and makes him safe on sheild. May have to pick my boy up again.
2019, 3 games later and were still naming falcon tech after Bobby scar
EliteDarkLordman it’s an acronym lol
@@BotActivity Do you know who Scar is?
I just discovered this tech on my own, glad I don't have to do extensive testing on it.
They're gonna remove this and add 2 frames to turn around animation
“2 bad weeb”
Man, this is beautiful.
What's SCARB's frame advantage vs parry?
_Frection_ +2
Idk if anybody else does this but i sometimes use a aerial raptor boot to mix up my recover off stage and if they don’t shield I can get a grounded falcon kick as a follow-up at low to mid percents (if they don’t jump out of the raptor boost hit stun)
"Stop trying to make SCARB happen, it's not going to happen"
This will probably not ever be seen, but I was bored and am addicted to labbing a little bit while attempting to co-main dk and falcon, and I found out that the top battlefield platform can be scarb'd off of onto the side plats, as well as you can scarb from on platform on ps2 which seems like an interesting option for hitting someone who just hit your shield on platform if they don't have any options fast enough to hit you again so they shield, and then you come down with scarb(in theory at least I could be completely wrong and no-one would hold shield long enough for it). You can also use fullhop to scarb onto a platform which I feel is an interesting surprise since it isn't uncommon for someone to shield when on platform. I was trying to see if you can scarb from the platforms on small battlefield, but I couldn't get it to work sadly. Also I end up sometimes calling SCARB SCARaB because it rolls of the tongue a bit easier for me and it kinda works for falcon I think with the a from raptor boost being used with the r(mostly just personal taste though). That is what I have now, if anyone actually reads this thank you and have a great day!
The fullhop onto platform has to be done in the fall btw, idk if it could work rising but personally I couldn't get it to work
scratch what i had said about small battlefield, can you just scarb off platform in general?
i think the answer is yes
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It's call SCARB cuz Falcon need them CARBS. Sorry I'll see myself out.
Junkyard Productions you beat me too it
Can you confirm a true grab after the scarb? It's one frame faster than Ftilt/DA and spotdodge invulnerability is frame 3
Unfortunately no, there's a mechanic that prevents you from grabbing somebody after you inflict shield stun on them that extends a bit past the shield stun. You can do a dash grab though, which works because it's slightly slower, but that's going to lose to an oos option anyway, so it's a mixup at best.
@@GraceAndGlorySmash that's so odd, but this is still really good. Great showcase of the tech, btw
Scar Kreygasm
Pit has a similar tech and you can set it up by ledge rolling, side b'ing off and then it will ledge cancel and you side b back for the scarb. Might be useful but not as useful as falcon cuz he has a higher jump and less endlag
I appreciate the cool new precise tool discovery and the lab work that went into it, but well....it starts with aerial raptor boost. That's a 25 frame startup point blank. Slower than a raw Belmont f-smash. It just gets demolished by either spotdodge or the opponent hitting you out of it, which they have ample time to do. Conditioning exists and there are ways to land it, but a good neutral tool this is not.
Seems better in disadvantage imo with the runoff version being pretty easy to pull off.
Man you know theyre really trying hard to make falcon good cus they gotta do a backflip to make the combo easier. He needs a buff man.
hello from the future
@@adambarker1626he's still ass 😂
Man looking like shulk with the acronyms
So I was playing against a Kirby and did an ARB on the perfect frame that is required to do SCARB and even without the Kirby holding shield the ARB still got canceled.
Just for context the Kirby was is the air holding neutral B. I think the wind box from neutral B might have something to do with it but it didn't seem like it.
EDIT: nvm, pretty sure it's what you did at 10:05 but the fact that I got it even when they weren't in shield is still significant
Got a replay?
Grace And Glory Smash| yeah but I don't have a capture card or anything like that so should I just post it on shared content?
EDIT: looking at the replay they also weren't even at max range for Falcon to fall
@@gothtearz If you have an SD card you can save it to that. Maybe just a frame by frame replay with a phone.
Grace And Glory Smash| I don't have an SD card (or at least that I know of) and phone quality is, well phone quality, so are you fine with me posting it to shared content? If you are it will be posted with the name "For Grace and Glory"
@@gothtearz I haven't ever messed with the shared content stuff, but it's worth a try. Let me know when it's up and I'll check it when I can
The first person I ever Fought Online had the Tag "Grace"
Who were they playing?
@@GraceAndGlorySmash Lucina back on December, Around the 19th I think
It likely not you,
@@GoonCommander Ah yeah that's just a coincidence, I only play cool chars
@@GraceAndGlorySmash sick
Thanks, capture card.
My dude, do you have a discord?
Just the Falconcord
discord.gg/0XG2K9WbH8VAFd8p
@@GraceAndGlorySmash Thanks man. God bless. ✌️
It should be called the Bobby Scar
The "obby ScarB"
B. Scar
Or they could just jump and punish on whiff 😭😭
If they jump you can punish with something else dummy.
Thats the RPS of any fighting game.
@@LiteralmenteFadul He's talking about as you input the move you get punished by many chars who like to jump.
plot twist: it’s actually called SCARB because of bobby scar
12:53 is there an updated version of this?
Falcon has a 6 frame grab, so a move thats +5 on shield gives you a guaranteed grab
There's a hidden mechanic that prevents you from grabbing someone within a certain window after you personally dealt shield stun to them. I don't remember all of the specifics offhand, but if you try and grab someone after a SCARB it'll just pass right through them.
@@GraceAndGlorySmash weird
What is buffering
Use an option before you're able to, and you'll do it on the first available frame
Can you do this with slingshot?
How much can Falcon Bench press? He looks ripped 😎
Not enough to carry a player
Who is Grace who is Glory
Does shield cancel ariel flame choke work as ganon?
No. You cancel the hit ON shield. Flame choke is a command grab.
@@GraceAndGlorySmash Darn, i was really excited to find out ganon can also Tokyo drift after seeing your vid on it, so i figured I'd see what else transfers over. Thanks though and keep up the good work!
Soooo, if I see a falcon going SCARB, I just have to let go of shield and punish out of it? LoLOloloL Damn I've mained Falcon in 64, Mele e and now I still use him to cheese newbs, but why does he have to be so fucking mediocre while being the coolest character.
is not practical, a good opponent wont let you do anything like this, there is no time i a smash game to think on this, i get it, making special moves like wavedashing back in melee was good and also brawl with dasch c cancel, but this is out of the way, falcon just need hes dash grab back i nthe game and its all he needs.
This is useless bcuz of Perry