Thanks, this was a good start, however, in order to completely eliminate vibration it is usually necessary to reduce the Pitch and Roll Power values on the Basic tab (I'm using 130 and 50 respectively), also setting Gyro LPF (Advanced tab) to 1 or 2 can help to smooth out the responses.
For anyone trying to get this to work now.... when it crashes on connect. To get around this, I downloaded java 8 update 51, from their archive, (after creating an account), downloaded and installed, and it connects now!! WOOHOO!
Thanks for being the first one to explain this procedure, and the downloads necessary for it, in common sense terms. Thanks to you I finally got this to work. Very grateful! :)
I am not sure if Painless covered this in a earlier comment but I found after much trail an error that other than changing the Noisy setting to Silent the position of the camera is crucial. I was getting the nasty motor noise and what finally stopped it is i moved the camera maybe 2mm back into the harness. Once I figured that out I changed how the harness is latched by having the part that goes around the lens go directly down through the slot, run it on back, skip the rear slot, and bring it around to strap it in. This made the came sit about 2mm back that where it was and now there is no noise and no jello in the video from the vibration of the motor. I always knew this was an issue for the roll just didn't think it would have been a big issue for the pitch. Makes sense that it would though.
FuYing Bro I also had to use 2.40 firmware since my board said there was a mismatch and that I was using 10.3 b9 or some garbage. the 2.40 worked for me but it was probably because I had a newer board. Like he said be careful with your firmware or you may be buying and new board.
that is mostly caused from oscillation because it is a cheaper gimbal, this creates vibrations and then it gets worse! glad your solution works, but here is a more permanent one I used. two small square pieces of 3m tape between camera and gimbal. this stops the oscillation from creating vibrations. I love the gimbal BTW!
You my good man are amazing, the first video I've ever followed that's worked, thank you so much for making this video and making it clear and easy to follow
I'm still very new to the hobby, but I've been building a 450 size quad and want to use it as a camera platform so I purchased a Walkera G-2D brushless gimbal. My system is using a FrSky DR4-II receiver (in PPM mode), a Taranis XD9+ Transmitter, a Seriously Pro Racing F3 EVO flight controller, and Cleanflight Configurator v2.1.0 to program the FC. My plan was to use one of the slider pot controls on the Taranis transmitter mapped to a spare channel on the FC motor output signal pins to control the gimbal camera by hooking it to the gimbal pitch control signal Input pin on the G-2D. I've watched many a TH-cam video to gather pieces and parts of what I needed to configure each of the system components to get this to work, but I've failed to get the pitch control working. When monitoring in Cleanflight connected to the FC the radio channel tied to the slider pot appears to be working as expected and shows signal on AUX2 going up/down with respective slider pot control movement. But output tied to the gimbal pitch control simply doesn't work. In hopes that it will provide the necessary information for someone to help me, I've added a shapshot of all of my system component setups. Any help in resolving this issue will be most appreciated!
+Bill Cooper check out the beginners series on the channel. This video may help you, it always pays to do some smart searching and adding the term 'painless360' to your search - th-cam.com/video/N69128cOFPc/w-d-xo.html
@Painless 360 Thank you for sharing this informative video. I certainly was able to download the drivers and simple BGC 2.2 (2.2b2) software with your links, but, I have not used it. "Out of the box", my GoodLuckBuy, GoPro brushless gimbal worked fine. The gimbal was stable with with each axis movement. There had been an initial whining of the motors but it soon went away. I was able to activate tilt control by connecting the "pitch" pins (signal & ground) at the board with a signal and ground at a spare channel at the receiver, and, set that channel to use the "VR" knob on my Futaba 10J Tx. The issue - With the "VR" knob centered, the gimbal and GoPro camera tilt down 30-40 degrees at start up. To get the gimbal back up to level with the horizon, I have to turn the knob counterclockwise. Have you experienced this peculiarity? Is that something that I can fix with the software or is that a Tx function that I need to enable? I thank you for any advise.
Hi Rogelio, don't worry you can sort this out. This feature allows you to set the attitude of the camera manually so you can set a 'tilt' that the gimbal maintains when flying. I use it myself to have a slight downward tilt so that the GoPro camera is looking more at the ground than the sky as I fly using another camera mounted on the body of the model. To correct this - connect the gimbal back to the PC and fire up the software. Make sure that one of the button press selections in 'Menu button' tab is set to 'Set tilt angle by hand'. You can see this on mine at 5:23. Make a note of how many presses it takes to activate this mode - mine was three. Disconnect the gimbal and power it up. Press the button on the board the number of times to enter the 'Set tilt angle by hand' mode and the gimbal will go floppy. Hold the angle you want the board to maintain and after a few seconds the gimbal will store this position and power the motors back up. I may make a quick tip out of this as I'm sure other pilots are having the same issues. Hope this helps. Let me know.
Painless360 Thank you for the reply and help. I wish that I could report that I had success with the GUI. However, the first time I tried to connect on my Comm Port 6, I received an error message that there was a "GUI vs Board Mismatch". The latest version of FW on the board of my gimbal is 0.1.b9 and the GUI is 2.2.b2. Of course the suggestion was to upgrade the FW, but, I can't use the 2.2 GUI to do that because there is a mismatch. I have the FW update on my desktop - BGC_2_2b2.enc.hex file, but, the question is how to upload it unto the board. I tried using the "X Loader" (can't recall where I got that idea) to upload the hex file, whilst I didn't know where it was going to be uploaded. Nevertheless, I got another error message...."Failed to upload. Error writing FW." Do you have a "How To Upgrade The Firmware On A Cheap GoodLuckBuy Gimbal For Dummies" book handy? I sure could use it right now. Thanks again for your help.
Painless360 I guess I should consider moving on with this gimbal. After several attempts to upgrade the firmware using XLoader (failed to upload error) as prescribed by the Basecam website, all I managed to do is to "brick it". It now just flops to one side and does not respond to anything. The LED's on the board light up, but there is no boot up, nor any response to Tx input. Again...thank you for your help.
Out of the box, you should throw away that flimsy GoPro strap. It won't hold the camera snug which causes errors with the balance. I ziptied the camera to the case very snug and the buzzing, whining, twitching went away! I have not programmed anything, just out of the box. Also when you move the aircraft at a very high angle, the gimbal does not twitch! Hope this helps anyone.
Thank you for this video Painless 360. I purchased one of these recently and it arrived without any instructions. I have worked most of this out but the GUI software portion of your video is very helpful. I'm currently trying to get my MJX Bugs 3 to lift this but it is quite a heavy gimbal!
Thanks very much, very in depth as usual... The silent mode didn't seem to change the vibration in mine much at all. I ended up uploading the latest firmware, completely gone.
Can you please post the adapter you use in your video that connects to the battery allowing you to send power to the gimbal? I am looking for one online but I'm not sure which one is correct. You mention it at 2:18. Thanks!
Painless360 I watched that but I think I may have not been clear. I already have the JST coming out of the gimbal, what is the part that connects it to the battery? It was not mentioned in the above video. I took a screen shot of your original video for reference: grab.by/FAgY
I see. That is a little adapter I made up so that I could run it from a battery on the bench. You can see me make one by watching th-cam.com/video/-YPLW5cCiGY/w-d-xo.html Have a look at the channel and search for what you're after. There is a good chance that it's already covered here but I'm always looking for ideas for new videos my subscribers need.. Hope this helps.
I have the same annoying, little buzzing (vibrating) noise (timeline 6:35). Did you ever eliminate this? And if yes, how? Note: Advanced-Timings- PWM freq.=High (Silent)
Hello, great informative video. I'm trying to use this gimbal for a hand held steady cam project. That means I have no need for a flight controller, so I was hoping you could point me in the right direction for some components. Around the 7:30 mark you used the servo sweeper in conjunction with some sort of power regulator paired with a battery. I would appreciate some guidance on the power regulator and battery + charger. I unfortunately have very little rc experience so I am largely unfamiliar with these components. So if you could point me towards a battery and power distributor like you used in the video it would be much appreciated. Again I have no need for radio control, so your test rig would be the perfect solution for my project. Ideally it would give me 2+ hours of run time between charges. Thanks, Teddy
You can use any 3s battery something like a 500-800mAh should be ok for this (unless you want to run it for hours at a time). You'll need a UBEC that has about 1.5amps available and a couple of 'servo testers' (that's the thing with the turny knob) to use to set the angles of the gimbal. Best of luck!
great video..im planning to get this but need to know if it will work upside down?? im planning to install this on a fixed wing experimental plane fpv.will it work that way??? thanks again for your tutorials..great stuff indeed!
This video has helped me a part but I ask since my English is not fluent I am going to put it with a 22.2v 10000mah battery it will work well (the gimbal and the controller card)
Fam. Sopacua The only detail that comes with the gimbal is the paper instructions (see link in description) you need to also find the pitch/roll outputs from the flight controller you have to connect these connections to.Best of luck.
Hello Im building a 500 quad i have the Seriously Pro set up from your channel thnx for your videos could u make a video on how to add a gimbal to this board please if u have no time u know where i could find how to setup this how to connect it thnx
Hello, when I connect my usb port after I open the program (simpleBGC_GUI) I click on the com3 port which is the correct port for the gimbald and the program automatically closes and there is an error message (hs_err_pid 9548) except that the numbers change every time and when i click on it opens mission planner?
I've not touched one of these for years so all I knew was in this video. The basics for any gimbal apply here - always install the camera before powering on, balance the camera in the gimbal before you turn it on and if it struggles to hold the camera in place then check the balance and then increase the power setting for the axis that can't cope. Best of luck!
It's designed for the weight of a Hero3 camera so if it's close then it might work. The gimbal should naturally balance with the camera installed so that the servos/motors are being used to just move the camera not support it's weight. Best of luck!
Depends on the weight difference. If it's lighter than the GoPro you could position it out further on the mount or add weight to balance.. Best of luck!
I have the same, but I cannot get the pitch control to work. I connected the pitch control directly to a channel on the receiver. - If I connect a servo on that same channel it works perfectly. - If I connect the gimball to that channel (only signal or signal + ground, not the +wire) the pitch control doesnt work. - I also tried with a servo tester connected to the gimball RC_pitch control and that worked. The gimball itself is powered through a 12 Volt bec taking power from the 4S lipo. I think it will work when connecting all pins from the receiver to the gimball (also the red cable) but in some video's it is stated that you should only connect the signal wire. I read articles that said it needs a common ground so I also connected the black but still not working. I fear that connecting the three wires (also the red) might lead to a short or smoke somewhere. However, when testing with the servo-tester the gimball also receives + volt through the wires (red wire also connected) SO... Can I connect all three pin (+,- and S) from the receiver to the rc_pitch control on the gimbal?
Hi Painless360, I just received this gimbal and did not get any papers for installation. I was wondering if you knew which pins on the naza the pitch and roll connect to. And on the gimbal. I have it mounted and the power connected to the board. I have been watching you videos and they will come in handy when I need to calibrate.
Hello, thanks for your very nice video, it helped me a lot. Just one question, i have de power for the gimbal connected to my lipo's ballancing cable, but i just used 1+ and 1 - cable, so i am using as far as i know 4,2 Volt. Is this ok ? I can noway find out how much volt it needs, and i am afraid to use all of the cables from the lipo's balancing cable. So far my gimbal works but perhaps it is better to use all of the balancing cables ? Could you please let me know ? Thanks.
Marco Jansson Check the stats for the gimbal you have from the supplier/their website. These gimbals usually have a wide operating voltage. This one in the video is being connected to the flight battery - 3s/12.4v and works great. Best of luck with it.
great video as always. thanks. i just got this gimbal as myfirst gimbal to play with on my quadcopter. can you please upload the paper instruction again because the link provided is not working, thanks
Brilliant video, I've managed to get so far, installed GUI and connected it okay, got my gimbal working and now sits nice and level, what I can't figure out is connecting the servo lead so it can be tilted from my futaba T6j flaps button (potentiometer). You showed it working with that servo tester but where would I plug my servo lead? Does it go into Ch6 on the receiver? Also read that you only need 1 lead wire and not to use all 3 on the servo lead as it will break the board. Any help would be appreciated.
S00000by You plug the lead into the receiver on the channel that you will use to move the gimbal. I would only connect the GND and SIGNAL wires myself. No need to pull power from the receiver. Hope this helps.
S00000by Attach a servo to that output on the Rx to confirm you can see movement.. If so they you need to look at how the gimbal is setup using the GUI and ensure that everything is enables for remote pitch control. Failing that the supplier may be able to help or provide a better manual. Best of luck.
Sir i have 0.54 version and i am trying to connect it in GUI version 2.2b but whenever I try connecting it the application quits abdurptly please advise what should I do
For anyone trying to get this to work now.... when it crashes on connect. To get around this, I downloaded java 8 update 51, from their archive, (after creating an account), downloaded and installed, and it connects now!! WOOHOO!
I've got the exact same gimbal, I connect signal cable from my receiver aux2 into the signal pin of the pitch on the gimbal board, I set the input of pitch to RC Input , under the RC settings but nothing is working
I'm not sure because I don't have a servo to test on , I plugged it into my FC and the values of my receiver aux 2 does correspond with the knob , so it definetly does transmit the signal
Not sure then - you can contact the supplier for more help. The Gimbal may not be configured for it. Connect it to the PC and have a look as a last resort..
hi lee. ive now purchased 2 of these and the first worked perfectly as you described but the second will connect to the gui but when i connect my 3s cell all i get is a constant red light and no movement on the motors. any help would be great. many thanks and happy flying
Sorry, not had that here. I'd let the vendor know in case they can help.. Best of luck with it, we will be looking at a newer gimbal in the coming month..
I've been building, racing and freestyle flying with mini-quads for over a year now. I would like to build a HEX with this gimbal. I use spektrum satellites with Airbot F4 or Revolt-V2 on my mini-quads. Do you have a video on how to have gimbal pitch control with AirbotF4 with Spektrum sat? Thanks
I just ordered two OMINBUS-F4 with baro to do the HEX build. I chose this FC because it has built in OSD and I don't plan on using telemetry. My assumption is that I can use either the Buzzer or LED pins to control the pitch of the gimbal.?
+sudhir kumar maharana this gimbal is very mature now. I'll be going a series on building larger quads so will be able to look at more current gimbals.. stay tuned!
first off,fantastic videos painless i got the taste with a Symax5c now getting to grips with a totem Q450 and followed your APM series...my question is possibly stupid. i have one of these gimbals now, do you have to use a seperate supply or will using 3 wire connection from the APM be enough to power the gimbal? your servo tester i presume is a supply direct from the battery....is the APM man enough to power it up or will i need to power up from the battery bus?
Painless360 on a gimbal without a fish eye lens, i think a decent compact camera would be great but its getting it to trigger. My only option is editing stills from video and i understand a of people do this too
I'm thinking connected after ubec with flight controller but, are motors, thinking of many people avoid to connect servos with other electronics. motors may be more consumptions especially in sharp moves. So a separate ubec at 6Volts (give 7volts) are the best.
@@Painless360 For anyone trying to get this to work now.... when it crashes on connect. To get around this, I downloaded java 8 update 51, from their archive, (after creating an account), downloaded and installed, and it connects now!! WOOHOO!
Hi! I was wondering if we can combine between 3-axis basecam controller and arduino. because we need to stabilize the system and track an object . Thanks!
Thank you for the videos. Hope you can answer this. I just got a GoodLuckBuy Alexmos V2.3B5 Gimbal. Should I use the v2.3 SimpleBGC software on this? I read somewhere you had to have a null version (maybe that's just for upgrades). I just don't want to brick it. Thanks!
I'm not sure - looking at some of the forums the answer appears to be confusing. Sorry I can't be more clear but I've not used the newer board. Let me know what the answer is when you get if figured out. Best of luck..
I've been pulling my hair out trying to configure one of these to work with an Iris+. I sort of get the idea that the Pixhawk in the Iris is trying to stabilize the gimbal, and the gimbal controller is also trying to stabilize the camera, ergo the signals are essentially fighting. Would you recommend disabling pitch stabilization on the Gimbal board, and allowing the pixhawk to control it? End game, I'd like the Iris to be able to be able to control the gimbal for autonomous missions. Thanks!
I have a bit of a dumb question... I have a bugs 4w controller and I am wondering if I can sync the pitch of this gimbal with the pitch of the onboard camera gimbal and use the same control mechanism for both?
Hi, it should, it can handle the heavier GoPro. Be careful though the gimbal is made to balance perfectly with the GoPro 3 in the cradle, if the Mobius is lighter then you may need to add a little more weight to make sure the roll motor isn't running harder than it needs to. Hope this helps.
If I want the camera to be tilted slightly downward so that my props aren't showing, what area of the settings would you tweak the pitch? Is it under the Basic or Advanced tab?
Painless360 Thank you for the response. I actually watched the video, tried it and it worked, but for some reason it seemed to throw all my other settings out of whack and the camera wasn't stabilizing as well when I set it by hand so I was hoping there was a better way to tune it directly in the software so that's tilted slightly downward all the time.
I've not had that here but I'd suspect that it's because the power level setting for that axis is a little low or the gimbal isn't balanced. Check the gimbal rests horizontal naturally with the camera in it..
The camera is supposed to sit on top of that bit, not hang from underneath. Mounting it that way will not allow it to balance naturally (see previous answer)..
Hi, I am working in the recognition of objects, for example a drone has to follow a car, so wherever the car goes, the camera has to follow it. Do you have any idea how can I connect it to the drone? I am using gumstix, to control the whole drone.
Sorry, this outside my expertise. You could use simple GPS to 'track' the car else you'd need complex imaging and object recognition and tracking software too.. I'd look at using the 'follow me' flight mode on things like the PixHawk. Best of luck, sounds interesting.
Hi, the video is very helpful! im just having troubles because i downloaded the driver, yet my computer still wont read my gimbal. im actually not even sure if this will fix the issue im having, the gimbals two brushless motors run hot and dont work, would this be the correct fix in this situation? Thanks!
Ihi friend love your videos!!!!ive just bought this thinking I can use my sj400 cam and xiam yi cam !! does this only work for gopro as it wont satblize with my sj400??? hope you can help!!
hi 360, on the bgc software the pitch arrow is upside down when I calibrate!! when I turn the the cam upside down on the gimbal the pitch straightens and its like the sensor is upside down im confused this gimbal should have been plug and play im very disappointed as it should of worked without seting up!! thanks for the help!!
Hello und thank you for this great Information Video. I checked my gimbal with Servo Tester and it works Fine. But not with my phantom 1. i know its a Long Time ago😂 but i can see the pitch Signal in naza Software After calibration. I connected the Signal to the Gimbal But it has no Effect on the pitch of the Gimbal.Could it be that older Phantom 1 does not working? Or do you habe an idea what to do next?
I did everything the way your video shows matey. The only difference was that I didn't need to install separate drivers to run the software, it worked with the downloaded software alone. What would be the outcome if I was to reset the board via the option to do so within the software or via a "long press" of the said little button? Is this something you have done before?
I would record ALL of the settings that are in the board now before looking at reset. It will reset the board and also set all of the setup to default. I did this to mine accidently and only had the ability to set it up again as I'd made a video that showed each of the tabs in the software! Does the software show that pressing the button three times will perform the 'Set tilt angles'? If so then check the press switch is working.. Best of luck..
I have a Question concerning the Servo Lead hook-up. The Gimbal is powered with 11.1-12.6 Volts from the Copter, Ok. So I noticed when You hooked up the servo tilt that You left all three leads on the connector attached, that would be "Signal,center is 5Volt power, and Ground". My Question is this: Is that 5 Volt Power Lead required for the tilt servo motor signal to work correctly? I'm concerned about having 2 Power sources feeding the Board, "12V and 5V", Are they isolated from each other? I'm just worried about that magic smoke that happens when something is not connected properly...lol ;)
+Painless360 Thanks for the reply, and Yea, I was kinda thinking that, if I just use the ground and signal for the tilt, the worst that can happen is it won't work without 5V hooked up.. I just thought You might of thought of that already and made ammends.. I hate trial and error in Electronics, can be disasterous...lmao.. ;)
+Andrew cho Oh No! Sorry to hear that.. That's why I hate Trial and Error. Not having good Tech Instructions on alot of stuff I've got, "Including this Gimbal" is creating a big problem with some of My Builds, wish that when You Buy something the instructions covered all bases, sorry for Your Losses, that's expensive.. :(
+Soco Joe hehehe yeah lot of stuff has burned :P the thing is that my country is under capital control and I cant buy from abroad!!! so anything for replacement has buy by a friend outside greece :P pain in the ass. so now i have a question: its OK if I plug a 2S lipo? that means fully charged 8.4Volts. or I use UBEC? I know is better for giving smooth flow but adding more grams better avoided.
HI, Before I saw your video I updated my board for the latest firmware version and now my motors don't work and the BGC program doesn't connect to the board anymore. Do you know how can I fix it? Thanks
Michel Icart bad news I'm afraid. As far as I know you have bricked your controller. You can buy new ones from eBay, banggood.com and others for less than £8 and swap it out. Best of luck.
All I knew about this is in the video. I no longer have this. Make sure the gimbal is balanced before you power it then the motors are only being used to stabilise the camera, not hold is in place.. Best of luck!
@@Painless360 muth thx Painless360 its my fail, got a Runcam HD without battery so its too lightweight for the gimbal 😂😂😂 i thing too, i will check if the motor are making sound again, sounds like when u turn on too long your copter, motors are beeping after a few minutes but why it is on the gimbal 🤔 i saw other video where i can change soundalarm by motors etc. but its another version and i cant use it 😞 should i update the board? and when on which firmware? Thxxxxx 😘👍🍀🍀🍀
Painless, thanks for the great videos. I have an issue with this gimbal and maybe you have some ideas. It worked fine. Then I took it off and remounted it. I plugged in the servo wire wrong and got smoke. Oops. Checked everything and plugged it in correctly and it worked. Then today it is dead. No lights. No movement. I plugged it into the computer with the cable and it lit up and read everything fine. Still, when I put it to 12v I get nothing. Any ideas? Nothing looks burnt. Did I kill the controller? Thanks for all of the great work!
The little controller that had the knob/dial to control the gopro causing it to tilt down and up. Where do you get that? Is that the same as this? www.amazon.com/DIYmall-Digital-Consistency-Controler-Checker/dp/B012LZKTDO
Still available for Helpout? I'm having an issue with my gimbal (same Chinese, a GLB, but using the BGC 2.2), where it's fine in looking towards the horizon, and I'm fine on being able to tilt it up and down mostly, but once it looks lower than 45º down, it jerks and skips over and over and refuses to stabilize. What I'd like would be to look straight down, but no go. Thoughts?
Chris Webb hi Chris, I don't as they stopped the ability to have chargeable sessions. My first ones were free anyway, I would suspect that the motor power needs to be increased slightly. Connect it to the software GUI and save the confit before you change anything. Then increase the motor power fractionally and keep testing it. Hope it helps.
רם חכמון we don't have a configuration file here. The best bet is to watch the video and pause it as we look through each of the tabs in the setup software. We have to do this once when we clicked defaults by mistake. Best of luck
Standard settings are: PID Controller ROLL P:10 I:0.15 D:12 PITCH P:10 I:0.25 D:15 Motor Config ROLL Power:140 Poles: 14 PITCH Power: 100 Poles: 14 -Advanced Timings PWM Frequency: HIGH Rest of the settings shouldn't matter if you've reset to default
Sorry, we no longer have the file but this looks like it - www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiHqqy7qO3NAhUqDcAKHTV1AIYQFggeMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.basecamelectronics.com%2Ffiles%2Fv10%2FSimpleBGC_manual_2_2_eng.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFhTcz11hSfZyBlYDFgAhoLvxhCjA&sig2=W6t_b8Z4WZ_SRqd2XSF4CA
Hi, Thank you so much for your video. I see that you made some adapter to fit the battery plugs, but is is ok to use the 4pin jst-xh directly? if I just solder the - and + wires to the board and ignore the other 2 wires on the 4pins jst-xh?
Binh Nguyen I use something like that all the time here - see the soldering videos in the RC quick tips playlist. Double check polarity and voltage out of your new connector before plugging it in - always pays to be safe not sorry..
I have a mobius. What do you recommend to do to get it well balanced on this gimbal design? Currently, I have it mounted far out of the mounting plate to keep it relatively balanced, though because it is so light weight it tends to vibrate and buzz, weirdly enough, it does not add any noticeable jello to the recordings, but it does reduce the sharpness (similar to motion blur.) My guess it that it high frequency noise. Also with this mount, I have a good bit of jello to work out. I have some EMAX 2213 motors, and some reasonably balanced nylon 10x4.5 props. If I add some foam between the mobius and the gimbal, vibs become really bad. I think lowering the P and D on the gimbal will fix it, but have not tried it yet.
Hi there Painless. I watched your video on how to adjust the level settings manually. I have the same gimbal as yours in the vid, apart from mine is silver. I have tried the 3 button presses but nothing happens. It connects to the software ok and gives live data on what the sensors are doing and also responds when you click "read" and "write" when making changes. My Gopro settles tilted slightly forward and is a little annoying that the sensor thinks its level. Any suggestions please?
Does the software show which number of switch presses is used on your gimbal for 'Set tilt angles by hand' in the 'Menu Tab'? Use that number of presses. If you do not have it listed as an option, add it. Hope this helps. Happy flying!
Hi, Do you know hot to connect this board to flight controller so I can control roll and pitch using my transmitter? I don't have PWM possibility so only connecting it to FC can be used to control them?
If you don't have PWM on the Rx that you can use then most flight controller have the ability to 'passthrouigh' an aux chennel to a spare PWM motor output for things like this. Look at pass-thru or channel forwarding in the manual/documentation for the flight controller and software you have.
Thank you very much, I've used Servo_Tilt as Channel Forwarding is impossible to understand and made it work. To give some info, Servo_Tilt didn't work on latest CF 2.0.1 and 2.0.2, but I've flashed to BF 3.1.7 and it worked. The catch is if you want it to work you need to add servo under resource using motor ID. So if you would like for example use PWM pin for motor 5 then (resource motor 5 none, then resource servo 0 XYY depending on ID you had for motor 5) @Painless360 maybe if you could make some video for Channel Forwarding ;)
you wouldn't happen to know how to control the pitch when your output is set to ppm? There is ppm option in the simplebgc gooey which I have tried and still doesn't work. I can get it to work but setting my output to pwm but then I can't control the quadcopter. I'm using a naze32 board.
Just for now I’m going to use the pitch control as I only have 1 spare channel (channel 5), I want to use the top right slider button on my fs i6s radio to control the pitch, would I just connect a wire from the signal pin on the gimbal to the signal pin on channel 5 of the receiver (powering the receiver and gimbal separately)? If so then it’s not working for me. Thanks for replying so quickly for my other questions and sorry if I sound like a noob (I am)
hi again. ive just purchased another gimbal for my octo but when i connect it it says its running a newer version of the gui. can i flash the gimbal to the 2.2b2 the same as my others and any help how would be great. many thanks yet again
Me again, lol.. You may have answered this before or in another Vid, but how do you connect this gimbal to the Naze32 Full so I can control pitch with one of my slider switched on my Taranis ? Which Pin should I connect to, 5 or 6 (since the motors are 1-4) is there anything I need to do on the Naze set up? Thanks in advance, your a HUGE help!!!
+Painless360 I finally got it figured out, you can control this gimbal thru the Naze32, with CleanFlight. I don't have the fancy setup to show on the computer like you do but this is how I did it, with my taranis using the left slider. 1 click on Servo Tilt 2 clicked on Channel Forwarding 3 under "Servos" I clicked Servo 0, A4 I set my left slider to channel 8 which became AUX 4 and BAM, I can control the pitch of the camera and it also maintains level balance in flight. I do have one small issue, the camera has a very slight "twitch" and I have not figured out how to stop it. when I disconnect the gimbal from the Naze32 the twitch stops so somewhere there is a setting I have not found yet to adjust to stop this, but its not bad enough to prevent a video. If you can play with the settings and find a cure I would be in your debt. Thank you good sir.
+Andrew Keir see how I show control using a servo checker. You need to connect those two connections to spare outputs on your radio receiver. Best of luck.
Just for now I’m going to use the pitch control as I only have 1 spare channel (channel 5), I want to use the top right slider button on my fs i6s radio to control the pitch, would I just connect a wire from the signal pin on the gimbal to the signal pin on channel 5 of the receiver (powering the receiver and gimbal separately)? Thanks for replying so quickly for my other questions and sorry if I sound like a noob (I am)
If so then it’s not working for me, the gimbal is not moving up or down when I use the scroller on the radio transmitter (VRA) which I put as channel 5 on the i6s, please help
+Painless360 camera is balnce.... when i buy evrything woking.. but one time i want turn on gimbal. Only red light motors no mevement and when i want connect to PC "Serial data currupted"
hi, I plan to buy a gimbal like this, because it is the cheapest ATM, but I don't want to use it for FPV yet, but to use it as a handheld stabilizer on my spider camera rig. Can you help me, with some circuit scheme for example how to build the cheapest and most simple controller for the manual pitch and roll controls (using switches or potentiometers and no servo tester)? As I know the 3 pins have -, + and signal, all I want to do is just send a correct 'signal' for one direction when pushing a button or turning a potentiometer manualy without a transmitter/receiver.
You can manually set the angle of this gimbal by hand (see th-cam.com/video/wv301eDPIBI/w-d-xo.html) so unless you want to move the position while in use you can avoid any other electronics. If you do want to move it then you will need something like a servo tester to change the PWM values sent to the board like I did in the video. A pot won't do anything. Good luck with the project!
That's the idea. This is like the one I used in the video and would allow you to remove the flimsy cover and put them into a custom case if needed - www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__14774__HobbyKing_8482_Servo_Tester.html Good luck with the project.
yes, this is the cheapest, starting from 2 dollars on ebay. Could this one also work? www.banggood.com/Multimeter-Tester-for-Servos-ESC-Multi-axis-Aircraft-p-915499.html I guess I would need to have some voltage regulator to got 5Volts from my 12Volt battery for the servo tester, but it is also not a big issue :) just the smaller 150mA max version of LM7805 could do it.
It would but surely you'll need an easer to see and move control to move the servo output? A UBEC and small 2s lipo will deliver the power you need. Good luck with the project.
I'm about to buy this gimbal, although I intend to butcher it so I can mount it inline with the frame rather than hanging below. My question is: can the pitch motor be switched over to the other side of the camera? I have the gopro 2, and looking at your video, there doesn't seem to be much room to spare for the video out cable.
I recently came across your channel while working on a DIY S500 build, and had a gimble question. I have a gopto hero4 and came across seller on ebay selling zenmuse h3 3 axis gimbles for $50 usd shipped. Can these be controlled via any flight controller or are they only for use on DJI products?
I can't tilt the camera connecting it to my apm 2.5.2. I'm powering it with a power module, connected ONLY the signal pitch to the SIGNAL A11 port from my APM, did all the configuration in mission planner but when i turn my radio knob, it does not move. In the apm manual says that connecting other cable will result in a brownout, I don't know what to do
Hello Painless360, I am setting up a quad with an APM 2.6 following your videos. I now want to add this same gimbal to it. Where should i connect the gimbal wire to? The receiver or the APM controller? Thank you
I'm probably very late, but when I try to turn on the gimbal, the motors do nothing, even when I try to calibrate it by hand, the motors do nothing. The software recognizes the movement though. What is happening?
Few questions... Do you get the strap that holds the gopro in place? And does the strap have a glass lens or is it hollow? How to you mount the gimbal on a DJI F450? Or does it just mount easily on a phantom 2? If so I could get a adapter plate :)
The strap came with the gimbal and doesn't' have any lens, that part goes over the GoPro lens housing. You can also get them from eBay separately too. You need to buy the longer legs and then you can mount the gimbal to the underside of the craft using the nuts/bolts supplied. Don't know about the Phantom - I don't use them myself. Happy flying!
Brilliant, no erms, no drawling boring voices, crystal clear, thanks
Thanks for the feedback, Malcolm. Very appreciated.
Happy flying!
Thanks, this was a good start, however, in order to completely eliminate vibration it is usually necessary to reduce the Pitch and Roll Power values on the Basic tab (I'm using 130 and 50 respectively), also setting Gyro LPF (Advanced tab) to 1 or 2 can help to smooth out the responses.
+fLaMePr0oF Wow! Thanks so much. When I put your suggestions my gimbal worked like magic. :-D
+fLaMePr0oF thanks man! that did the trick!
Does anyone know what battery he is using?
For anyone trying to get this to work now.... when it crashes on connect. To get around this, I downloaded java 8 update 51, from their archive, (after creating an account), downloaded and installed, and it connects now!! WOOHOO!
Thanks for being the first one to explain this procedure, and the downloads necessary for it, in common sense terms. Thanks to you I finally got this to work. Very grateful! :)
Glad it helped! :D
I am not sure if Painless covered this in a earlier comment but I found after much trail an error that other than changing the Noisy setting to Silent the position of the camera is crucial. I was getting the nasty motor noise and what finally stopped it is i moved the camera maybe 2mm back into the harness. Once I figured that out I changed how the harness is latched by having the part that goes around the lens go directly down through the slot, run it on back, skip the rear slot, and bring it around to strap it in. This made the came sit about 2mm back that where it was and now there is no noise and no jello in the video from the vibration of the motor. I always knew this was an issue for the roll just didn't think it would have been a big issue for the pitch. Makes sense that it would though.
FuYing Bro I also had to use 2.40 firmware since my board said there was a mismatch and that I was using 10.3 b9 or some garbage. the 2.40 worked for me but it was probably because I had a newer board. Like he said be careful with your firmware or you may be buying and new board.
+FuYing Bro Great piece of info there, thanks for sharing.. :)
that is mostly caused from oscillation because it is a cheaper gimbal, this creates vibrations and then it gets worse! glad your solution works, but here is a more permanent one I used. two small square pieces of 3m tape between camera and gimbal. this stops the oscillation from creating vibrations. I love the gimbal BTW!
You my good man are amazing, the first video I've ever followed that's worked, thank you so much for making this video and making it clear and easy to follow
Glad it helped! Happy flying!
I'm still very new to the hobby, but I've been building a 450 size quad and want to use it as a camera platform so I purchased a Walkera G-2D brushless gimbal. My system is using a FrSky DR4-II receiver (in PPM mode), a Taranis XD9+ Transmitter, a Seriously Pro Racing F3 EVO flight controller, and Cleanflight Configurator v2.1.0 to program the FC.
My plan was to use one of the slider pot controls on the Taranis transmitter mapped to a spare channel on the FC motor output signal pins to control the gimbal camera by hooking it to the gimbal pitch control signal Input pin on the G-2D. I've watched many a TH-cam video to gather pieces and parts of what I needed to configure each of the system components to get this to work, but I've failed to get the pitch control working.
When monitoring in Cleanflight connected to the FC the radio channel tied to the slider pot appears to be working as expected and shows signal on AUX2 going up/down with respective slider pot control movement. But output tied to the gimbal pitch control simply doesn't work.
In hopes that it will provide the necessary information for someone to help me, I've added a shapshot of all of my system component setups. Any help in resolving this issue will be most appreciated!
+Bill Cooper check out the beginners series on the channel. This video may help you, it always pays to do some smart searching and adding the term 'painless360' to your search - th-cam.com/video/N69128cOFPc/w-d-xo.html
@Painless 360
Thank you for sharing this informative video. I certainly was able to download the drivers and simple BGC 2.2 (2.2b2) software with your links, but, I have not used it.
"Out of the box", my GoodLuckBuy, GoPro brushless gimbal worked fine. The gimbal was stable with with each axis movement. There had been an initial whining of the motors but it soon went away.
I was able to activate tilt control by connecting the "pitch" pins (signal & ground) at the board with a signal and ground at a spare channel at the receiver, and, set that channel to use the "VR" knob on my Futaba 10J Tx.
The issue - With the "VR" knob centered, the gimbal and GoPro camera tilt down 30-40 degrees at start up. To get the gimbal back up to level with the horizon, I have to turn the knob counterclockwise.
Have you experienced this peculiarity? Is that something that I can fix with the software or is that a Tx function that I need to enable? I thank you for any advise.
Hi Rogelio, don't worry you can sort this out.
This feature allows you to set the attitude of the camera manually so you can set a 'tilt' that the gimbal maintains when flying. I use it myself to have a slight downward tilt so that the GoPro camera is looking more at the ground than the sky as I fly using another camera mounted on the body of the model.
To correct this - connect the gimbal back to the PC and fire up the software. Make sure that one of the button press selections in 'Menu button' tab is set to 'Set tilt angle by hand'. You can see this on mine at 5:23.
Make a note of how many presses it takes to activate this mode - mine was three.
Disconnect the gimbal and power it up. Press the button on the board the number of times to enter the 'Set tilt angle by hand' mode and the gimbal will go floppy. Hold the angle you want the board to maintain and after a few seconds the gimbal will store this position and power the motors back up.
I may make a quick tip out of this as I'm sure other pilots are having the same issues. Hope this helps. Let me know.
Painless360 Thank you for the reply and help. I wish that I could report that I had success with the GUI. However, the first time I tried to connect on my Comm Port 6, I received an error message that there was a "GUI vs Board Mismatch". The latest version of FW on the board of my gimbal is 0.1.b9 and the GUI is 2.2.b2. Of course the suggestion was to upgrade the FW, but, I can't use the 2.2 GUI to do that because there is a mismatch.
I have the FW update on my desktop - BGC_2_2b2.enc.hex file, but, the question is how to upload it unto the board. I tried using the "X Loader" (can't recall where I got that idea) to upload the hex file, whilst I didn't know where it was going to be uploaded. Nevertheless, I got another error message...."Failed to upload. Error writing FW."
Do you have a "How To Upgrade The Firmware On A Cheap GoodLuckBuy Gimbal For Dummies" book handy? I sure could use it right now.
Thanks again for your help.
Painless360 I guess I should consider moving on with this gimbal. After several attempts to upgrade the firmware using XLoader (failed to upload error) as prescribed by the Basecam website, all I managed to do is to "brick it". It now just flops to one side and does not respond to anything. The LED's on the board light up, but there is no boot up, nor any response to Tx input. Again...thank you for your help.
Out of the box, you should throw away that flimsy GoPro strap. It won't hold the camera snug which causes errors with the balance. I ziptied the camera to the case very snug and the buzzing, whining, twitching went away! I have not programmed anything, just out of the box. Also when you move the aircraft at a very high angle, the gimbal does not twitch! Hope this helps anyone.
Thank you for this video Painless 360. I purchased one of these recently and it arrived without any instructions. I have worked most of this out but the GUI software portion of your video is very helpful. I'm currently trying to get my MJX Bugs 3 to lift this but it is quite a heavy gimbal!
which motor can I use with the BGC board?
How can you control the gimbal's movement using a remote control instead of the servo checker? Thanks!
+furulevi you plug those leads into the channels you're using in the receiver. See one if the videos in the Nova Pro series for a demo
You'll need a Transmitter-Receiver setup with free channels. I have a flying 3d x8 and this gimbal works perfectly on it.
I have a Devo 7E, it has no potentiometers (unless I modify the radio somehow).
Why do you need 'pots'?
Can I control the tilt angle of the gimbal with the switches also?
Thanks very much, very in depth as usual... The silent mode didn't seem to change the vibration in mine much at all. I ended up uploading the latest firmware, completely gone.
which motor can I use with the BGC board?
What are the limits for the input voltage to the board? Can it work from a motorcycle battery between 12V-14V?
+Nikolaos Beratlis Not sure, the packs we use here range from 12.6-11v and it works great..
Can you please post the adapter you use in your video that connects to the battery allowing you to send power to the gimbal? I am looking for one online but I'm not sure which one is correct. You mention it at 2:18. Thanks!
JST. th-cam.com/video/2ghMtUiV18w/w-d-xo.html
Painless360 I watched that but I think I may have not been clear. I already have the JST coming out of the gimbal, what is the part that connects it to the battery? It was not mentioned in the above video. I took a screen shot of your original video for reference: grab.by/FAgY
I see. That is a little adapter I made up so that I could run it from a battery on the bench.
You can see me make one by watching th-cam.com/video/-YPLW5cCiGY/w-d-xo.html
Have a look at the channel and search for what you're after. There is a good chance that it's already covered here but I'm always looking for ideas for new videos my subscribers need..
Hope this helps.
Thanks for your clear instructions. Saved me a lot of time!
I have the same annoying, little buzzing (vibrating) noise (timeline 6:35). Did you ever eliminate this? And if yes, how? Note: Advanced-Timings- PWM freq.=High (Silent)
Hello, great informative video.
I'm trying to use this gimbal for a hand held steady cam project. That means I have no need for a flight controller, so I was hoping you could point me in the right direction for some components.
Around the 7:30 mark you used the servo sweeper in conjunction with some sort of power regulator paired with a battery. I would appreciate some guidance on the power regulator and battery + charger. I unfortunately have very little rc experience so I am largely unfamiliar with these components.
So if you could point me towards a battery and power distributor like you used in the video it would be much appreciated. Again I have no need for radio control, so your test rig would be the perfect solution for my project. Ideally it would give me 2+ hours of run time between charges.
Thanks, Teddy
You can use any 3s battery something like a 500-800mAh should be ok for this (unless you want to run it for hours at a time). You'll need a UBEC that has about 1.5amps available and a couple of 'servo testers' (that's the thing with the turny knob) to use to set the angles of the gimbal. Best of luck!
Excellent.. you made my day I just bought this from amazon..thank you so much
which motor can I use with the BGC board?
@@gauranggupta9394 what do you mean which motor? Please clarify
great video..im planning to get this but need to know if it will work upside down?? im planning to install this on a fixed wing experimental plane fpv.will it work that way??? thanks again for your tutorials..great stuff indeed!
Yes it will but you may need to change settings in the GUI though.
Happy flying!
This video has helped me a part but I ask since my English is not fluent I am going to put it with a 22.2v 10000mah battery it will work well (the gimbal and the controller card)
Check the maximum voltage supported by the gimbal, I think you will find that voltage is too high... best of luck
Thanks for the vid, answered a lot of questions I had!
Verry good video tuturial, can you please help me how i can connect this gimbal to my new ML Toys Seeker V303.
Fam. Sopacua The only detail that comes with the gimbal is the paper instructions (see link in description) you need to also find the pitch/roll outputs from the flight controller you have to connect these connections to.Best of luck.
Hello
Im building a 500 quad i have the Seriously Pro set up from your channel thnx for your videos
could u make a video on how to add a gimbal to this board please if u have no time u know where i could find how to setup this how to connect it
thnx
See the Naze32 gimbal video. The setup in Cleanflight is the same irrespective of the flight controller. Best of luck!
thnx
so i can set up this gimbal u made a video about connect it strait to the Seriously Pro ?
thnx
Are you able to have the gimble motor on the left in stead of the right so the fpv cable doesn't hit the motor?
Possibly, we've not tried but you'll have to move the sensor and also look at reversing the correction for that motor too.. Best of luck!
this worked after 9 years thnx
Hello, when I connect my usb port after I open the program (simpleBGC_GUI) I click on the com3 port which is the correct port for the gimbald and the program automatically closes and there is an error message (hs_err_pid 9548) except that the numbers change every time and when i click on it opens mission planner?
same, did you ever find a solution?
Great video. Have been looking all over Google :) Thankyou.
what is you help out channel? I have 2 of these gimbals and they work at first and then fail, would really appreciate your help. Thanks
I've not touched one of these for years so all I knew was in this video. The basics for any gimbal apply here - always install the camera before powering on, balance the camera in the gimbal before you turn it on and if it struggles to hold the camera in place then check the balance and then increase the power setting for the axis that can't cope. Best of luck!
@@Painless360 thank you, I'll keep trying.
hey, i want to ask you if this would fit for the sony fdr x 1000v action cam! It weights 114gramm without housing.
It's designed for the weight of a Hero3 camera so if it's close then it might work. The gimbal should naturally balance with the camera installed so that the servos/motors are being used to just move the camera not support it's weight. Best of luck!
ok, but how could i set up the weight of the sony when its for the gopro designed?
Depends on the weight difference. If it's lighter than the GoPro you could position it out further on the mount or add weight to balance.. Best of luck!
its 114 gramm----the gopfo is 60-70gramm
Waaay to heavy then ;(
I have the same, but I cannot get the pitch control to work. I connected the pitch control directly to a channel on the receiver.
- If I connect a servo on that same channel it works perfectly.
- If I connect the gimball to that channel (only signal or signal + ground, not the +wire) the pitch control doesnt work.
- I also tried with a servo tester connected to the gimball RC_pitch control and that worked.
The gimball itself is powered through a 12 Volt bec taking power from the 4S lipo.
I think it will work when connecting all pins from the receiver to the gimball (also the red cable) but in some video's it is stated that you should only connect the signal wire. I read articles that said it needs a common ground so I also connected the black but still not working.
I fear that connecting the three wires (also the red) might lead to a short or smoke somewhere. However, when testing with the servo-tester the gimball also receives + volt through the wires (red wire also connected)
SO... Can I connect all three pin (+,- and S) from the receiver to the rc_pitch control on the gimbal?
I did - worked fine. The 12v power and the 5v control systems are separate.
Hi Painless360, I just received this gimbal and did not get any papers for installation. I was wondering if you knew which pins on the naza the pitch and roll connect to. And on the gimbal. I have it mounted and the power connected to the board. I have been watching you videos and they will come in handy when I need to calibrate.
jshrea I don't use Naza but the very basic paper instructions that came with this gimbal can be downloaded from @67301981
Best of luck.
Hello, thanks for your very nice video, it helped me a lot.
Just one question, i have de power for the gimbal connected to my lipo's ballancing cable, but i just used 1+ and 1 - cable, so i am using as far as i know 4,2 Volt. Is this ok ? I can noway find out how much volt it needs, and i am afraid to use all of the cables from the lipo's balancing cable. So far my gimbal works but perhaps it is better to use all of the balancing cables ? Could you please let me know ? Thanks.
Marco Jansson Check the stats for the gimbal you have from the supplier/their website. These gimbals usually have a wide operating voltage. This one in the video is being connected to the flight battery - 3s/12.4v and works great.
Best of luck with it.
Thank you for your answer, i will try to find out, because it is a "simple" ebay gimbal, don't have a website, but looks exactly like yours :)
great video as always. thanks. i just got this gimbal as myfirst gimbal to play with on my quadcopter. can you please upload the paper instruction again because the link provided is not working, thanks
Brilliant video, I've managed to get so far, installed GUI and connected it okay, got my gimbal working and now sits nice and level, what I can't figure out is connecting the servo lead so it can be tilted from my futaba T6j flaps button (potentiometer). You showed it working with that servo tester but where would I plug my servo lead? Does it go into Ch6 on the receiver? Also read that you only need 1 lead wire and not to use all 3 on the servo lead as it will break the board. Any help would be appreciated.
S00000by You plug the lead into the receiver on the channel that you will use to move the gimbal. I would only connect the GND and SIGNAL wires myself. No need to pull power from the receiver.
Hope this helps.
Painless360 Wow, that was a very fast responce, many thanks, will try that now and let you know.
Painless360 Okay, just tried and still no pitch movement, but the gimbal is still working fine. any ideas?
S00000by Attach a servo to that output on the Rx to confirm you can see movement..
If so they you need to look at how the gimbal is setup using the GUI and ensure that everything is enables for remote pitch control.
Failing that the supplier may be able to help or provide a better manual.
Best of luck.
Painless360 Thanks again will give that a go.
Sir i have 0.54 version and i am trying to connect it in GUI version 2.2b but whenever I try connecting it the application quits abdurptly please advise what should I do
I've not used this in years so no idea. Best of luck with it
@@Painless360 I am having the same issue, seems to be Java related crash
For anyone trying to get this to work now.... when it crashes on connect. To get around this, I downloaded java 8 update 51, from their archive, (after creating an account), downloaded and installed, and it connects now!! WOOHOO!
I've got the exact same gimbal, I connect signal cable from my receiver aux2 into the signal pin of the pitch on the gimbal board, I set the input of pitch to RC Input , under the RC settings but nothing is working
Adam Keely Does a servo connected to Aux2 move ok? What troubleshooting have you done?
I'm not sure because I don't have a servo to test on , I plugged it into my FC and the values of my receiver aux 2 does correspond with the knob , so it definetly does transmit the signal
Not sure then - you can contact the supplier for more help. The Gimbal may not be configured for it. Connect it to the PC and have a look as a last resort..
Thank
What is the name of the adjusted you used in the video to control the haw and roll
Sorry, not sure what you're asking..
+Painless360 at 7:00 the yellow knob to adjust the gimbal
That's a servo tester, it's just used to test servos away from the model.
hi lee. ive now purchased 2 of these and the first worked perfectly as you described but the second will connect to the gui but when i connect my 3s cell all i get is a constant red light and no movement on the motors. any help would be great. many thanks and happy flying
Sorry, not had that here. I'd let the vendor know in case they can help.. Best of luck with it, we will be looking at a newer gimbal in the coming month..
Thanks. Like I said the first worked beautifully so I bought a second which doesn't
Nice video do you know on how to install it on phantom 3 Standard
Is it possible to mound the gimbal on top of a helmet? What I mean: does it also work upside down?
+rudolfy112 sorry, never tried it. Best of luck!
I've been building, racing and freestyle flying with mini-quads for over a year now. I would like to build a HEX with this gimbal. I use spektrum satellites with Airbot F4 or Revolt-V2 on my mini-quads. Do you have a video on how to have gimbal pitch control with AirbotF4 with Spektrum sat? Thanks
+VD2021 sorry I don't. Best of luck
I just ordered two OMINBUS-F4 with baro to do the HEX build. I chose this FC because it has built in OSD and I don't plan on using telemetry. My assumption is that I can use either the Buzzer or LED pins to control the pitch of the gimbal.?
Have you managed to get that vibration noise go since ?
Adam Keely Yep, redid the process with the main power connected and the noise is gone.
Can you show how to connect this gimbal physically with pixhawk and s500 frame
+sudhir kumar maharana this gimbal is very mature now. I'll be going a series on building larger quads so will be able to look at more current gimbals.. stay tuned!
first off,fantastic videos painless i got the taste with a Symax5c now getting to grips with a totem Q450 and followed your APM series...my question is possibly stupid. i have one of these gimbals now, do you have to use a seperate supply or will using 3 wire connection from the APM be enough to power the gimbal? your servo tester i presume is a supply direct from the battery....is the APM man enough to power it up or will i need to power up from the battery bus?
The gimbal has a controller, two motors and power circuitry so you need to power it from the pdb. Best of luck!
+Painless360 this was the way I destroyed my last one. Almost the same question I have to connect it to a PC. USB AND 3s lipo? Or only USB?
As I've just replied to your other comment. We cover this in the video. Without a LIPO connected the motors will have no power.. Best of luck.
+Painless360 best thanks. That was what I thought. Bad luck happens ;)
What do you think the best camera and way to take pictures and video is if using a pixhawk quad? Thanks
Depends what you mean by best.. Gimbal? Resolution? Remote control? FPV output? Battery life....
Painless360 on a gimbal without a fish eye lens, i think a decent compact camera would be great but its getting it to trigger. My only option is editing stills from video and i understand a of people do this too
Could you connect this gimbal to the main power supply battery? or would you have to get a separate battery for the gimbal?
I'm thinking connected after ubec with flight controller but, are motors, thinking of many people avoid to connect servos with other electronics. motors may be more consumptions especially in sharp moves. So a separate ubec at 6Volts (give 7volts) are the best.
hi frends i have problem with connetting i push connet button and program crashing why do this?
It could be loads of things - this is very old technology now so the best place to look would be in the forums.. best of luck with it..
@@Painless360 For anyone trying to get this to work now.... when it crashes on connect. To get around this, I downloaded java 8 update 51, from their archive, (after creating an account), downloaded and installed, and it connects now!! WOOHOO!
HI i cant find the port and cant find the driver in the vid im working on windows10 can you help me with it
@@teambubblesfinance4776
Hi! I was wondering if we can combine between 3-axis basecam controller and arduino. because we need to stabilize the system and track an object . Thanks!
Sounds like a fun project but not something we've looked at. Best of luck with it!
thanks
Can the gimbal be powered from the rx through the pitch channel wire or do you have to plug in the power battery connector too?
+Zoomer1973 Power and signal connections are different - power needs 12v, the signal wires are 5v. You need both. Best of luck.
Thank you for the videos. Hope you can answer this. I just got a GoodLuckBuy Alexmos V2.3B5 Gimbal. Should I use the v2.3 SimpleBGC software on this? I read somewhere you had to have a null version (maybe that's just for upgrades). I just don't want to brick it. Thanks!
I'm not sure - looking at some of the forums the answer appears to be confusing. Sorry I can't be more clear but I've not used the newer board. Let me know what the answer is when you get if figured out.
Best of luck..
Any chance you could tell me how to connect a external fc in order to use follow mode?
I've not done that here. Best of luck...
I've been pulling my hair out trying to configure one of these to work with an Iris+. I sort of get the idea that the Pixhawk in the Iris is trying to stabilize the gimbal, and the gimbal controller is also trying to stabilize the camera, ergo the signals are essentially fighting. Would you recommend disabling pitch stabilization on the Gimbal board, and allowing the pixhawk to control it? End game, I'd like the Iris to be able to be able to control the gimbal for autonomous missions. Thanks!
I have a bit of a dumb question... I have a bugs 4w controller and I am wondering if I can sync the pitch of this gimbal with the pitch of the onboard camera gimbal and use the same control mechanism for both?
Not sure, sorry I can't be more help..
Thank you for your perfect and amazing tutorial or review. It helped me a lot. I subbed :)
which motor can I use with the BGC board?
I am using this for a aerial drone gimbal, is there a way to keep the gimbal tilted down in the program?
See my other videos. Can can set the tilt manually.. Best if luck!
One question how much voltage it can handle, if I have a 6s battery does it work on it or I need a BEC in this case
would it fit and work with mobius?
Yes it will, but i think you wili need some PID tuning, maybe not
Hi, it should, it can handle the heavier GoPro. Be careful though the gimbal is made to balance perfectly with the GoPro 3 in the cradle, if the Mobius is lighter then you may need to add a little more weight to make sure the roll motor isn't running harder than it needs to. Hope this helps.
If I want the camera to be tilted slightly downward so that my props aren't showing, what area of the settings would you tweak the pitch? Is it under the Basic or Advanced tab?
See th-cam.com/video/wv301eDPIBI/w-d-xo.html for help.
Happy flying!
Painless360 Thank you for the response. I actually watched the video, tried it and it worked, but for some reason it seemed to throw all my other settings out of whack and the camera wasn't stabilizing as well when I set it by hand so I was hoping there was a better way to tune it directly in the software so that's tilted slightly downward all the time.
Hi. I have connected everything as you have in this video but the Gimbal constantly vibrates. any suggestions would be awesome. Thanks
I've not had that here but I'd suspect that it's because the power level setting for that axis is a little low or the gimbal isn't balanced. Check the gimbal rests horizontal naturally with the camera in it..
The camera is supposed to sit on top of that bit, not hang from underneath. Mounting it that way will not allow it to balance naturally (see previous answer)..
Hi, I am working in the recognition of objects, for example a drone has to follow a car, so wherever the car goes, the camera has to follow it. Do you have any idea how can I connect it to the drone? I am using gumstix, to control the whole drone.
Sorry, this outside my expertise. You could use simple GPS to 'track' the car else you'd need complex imaging and object recognition and tracking software too.. I'd look at using the 'follow me' flight mode on things like the PixHawk. Best of luck, sounds interesting.
Hi, the video is very helpful! im just having troubles because i downloaded the driver, yet my computer still wont read my gimbal. im actually not even sure if this will fix the issue im having, the gimbals two brushless motors run hot and dont work, would this be the correct fix in this situation? Thanks!
The Pasty Prince Possibly - I would be going back to the vendor and asking for help.
Best of luck.
I am using a D4R-II connected via CPPM to a Naze32 controller on a tricopter. How can I use a RC channel to control the gimbal pitch?
There is a video on the channel that shows how head tracking works. That should help.. best if luck.
Ihi friend love your videos!!!!ive just bought this thinking I can use my sj400 cam and xiam yi cam !! does this only work for gopro as it wont satblize with my sj400??? hope you can help!!
+chrissy roberts I've already answered this on another one of your comments/questions.. Best of luck.
hi 360,
on the bgc software the pitch arrow is upside down when I calibrate!! when I turn the the cam upside down on the gimbal the pitch straightens and its like the sensor is upside down im confused this gimbal should have been plug and play im very disappointed as it should of worked without seting up!! thanks for the help!!
Hello und thank you for this great Information Video. I checked my gimbal with Servo Tester and it works Fine. But not with my phantom 1. i know its a Long Time ago😂 but i can see the pitch Signal in naza Software After calibration. I connected the Signal to the Gimbal But it has no Effect on the pitch of the Gimbal.Could it be that older Phantom 1 does not working? Or do you habe an idea what to do next?
I did everything the way your video shows matey. The only difference was that I didn't need to install separate drivers to run the software, it worked with the downloaded software alone. What would be the outcome if I was to reset the board via the option to do so within the software or via a "long press" of the said little button? Is this something you have done before?
I would record ALL of the settings that are in the board now before looking at reset. It will reset the board and also set all of the setup to default. I did this to mine accidently and only had the ability to set it up again as I'd made a video that showed each of the tabs in the software!
Does the software show that pressing the button three times will perform the 'Set tilt angles'? If so then check the press switch is working..
Best of luck..
I have a Question concerning the Servo Lead hook-up. The Gimbal is powered with 11.1-12.6 Volts from the Copter, Ok. So I noticed when You hooked up the servo tilt that You left all three leads on the connector attached, that would be "Signal,center is 5Volt power, and Ground". My Question is this: Is that 5 Volt Power Lead required for the tilt servo motor signal to work correctly? I'm concerned about having 2 Power sources feeding the Board, "12V and 5V", Are they isolated from each other? I'm just worried about that magic smoke that happens when something is not connected properly...lol ;)
If you are concerned then try it with the red wire in the servo cable disconnected.. Best of luck!
+Painless360 Thanks for the reply, and Yea, I was kinda thinking that, if I just use the ground and signal for the tilt, the worst that can happen is it won't work without 5V hooked up.. I just thought You might of thought of that already and made ammends.. I hate trial and error in Electronics, can be disasterous...lmao.. ;)
+Soco Joe i just fried 2 boards pluging 12V........
+Andrew cho Oh No! Sorry to hear that.. That's why I hate Trial and Error. Not having good Tech Instructions on alot of stuff I've got, "Including this Gimbal" is creating a big problem with some of My Builds, wish that when You Buy something the instructions covered all bases, sorry for Your Losses, that's expensive.. :(
+Soco Joe hehehe yeah lot of stuff has burned :P the thing is that my country is under capital control and I cant buy from abroad!!! so anything for replacement has buy by a friend outside greece :P pain in the ass. so now i have a question: its OK if I plug a 2S lipo? that means fully charged 8.4Volts. or I use UBEC? I know is better for giving smooth flow but adding more grams better avoided.
HI,
Before I saw your video I updated my board for the latest firmware version and now my motors don't work and the BGC program doesn't connect to the board anymore. Do you know how can I fix it?
Thanks
Michel Icart bad news I'm afraid. As far as I know you have bricked your controller. You can buy new ones from eBay, banggood.com and others for less than £8 and swap it out. Best of luck.
Try to use a different GUI version!
My motors makes buzzer noise on 2.2b 2 but how to disable sounds on these version from the Gui? It still beept on startup 😞
All I knew about this is in the video. I no longer have this. Make sure the gimbal is balanced before you power it then the motors are only being used to stabilise the camera, not hold is in place.. Best of luck!
@@Painless360 muth thx Painless360 its my fail, got a Runcam HD without battery so its too lightweight for the gimbal 😂😂😂 i thing too, i will check if the motor are making sound again, sounds like when u turn on too long your copter, motors are beeping after a few minutes but why it is on the gimbal 🤔 i saw other video where i can change soundalarm by motors etc. but its another version and i cant use it 😞 should i update the board? and when on which firmware? Thxxxxx 😘👍🍀🍀🍀
Painless, thanks for the great videos. I have an issue with this gimbal and maybe you have some ideas.
It worked fine. Then I took it off and remounted it. I plugged in the servo wire wrong and got smoke. Oops. Checked everything and plugged it in correctly and it worked. Then today it is dead. No lights. No movement. I plugged it into the computer with the cable and it lit up and read everything fine. Still, when I put it to 12v I get nothing. Any ideas? Nothing looks burnt. Did I kill the controller?
Thanks for all of the great work!
If you got smoke then something is damaged.. Best of luck with it!
quick question mate. do u think a camera phone would work on it. like is it possible an strong enough cheers thanks
+aftab maybe, the gimbal is designed to balance with the GoPro though..
Hi.
Can you please advice if this gimbal will work on top (suport heading down) of a mini talon with a gopro5?
Thank you.
I'm not sure. I never tried that. Best of luck
@@Painless360
not sure about gopro5, right?
but, reversed, it should work, right? :)
Thank you
Where did you get the servo dial you called "flight controller" ?
+Patrick Lacson not sure what you're referring to. What part of the video?
The little controller that had the knob/dial to control the gopro causing it to tilt down and up. Where do you get that? Is that the same as this? www.amazon.com/DIYmall-Digital-Consistency-Controler-Checker/dp/B012LZKTDO
I see! That's a servo tester.. :)
Still available for Helpout? I'm having an issue with my gimbal (same Chinese, a GLB, but using the BGC 2.2), where it's fine in looking towards the horizon, and I'm fine on being able to tilt it up and down mostly, but once it looks lower than 45º down, it jerks and skips over and over and refuses to stabilize. What I'd like would be to look straight down, but no go. Thoughts?
Chris Webb hi Chris, I don't as they stopped the ability to have chargeable sessions. My first ones were free anyway,
I would suspect that the motor power needs to be increased slightly. Connect it to the software GUI and save the confit before you change anything. Then increase the motor power fractionally and keep testing it.
Hope it helps.
I have the same gimbal i use a rubber band to tighten camera to gimbal and it makes noise disappear I hope it works for you
Hi
i have made some changes and can not go back...
can you put a link to a simple profile file
thank you
Ram
רם חכמון we don't have a configuration file here. The best bet is to watch the video and pause it as we look through each of the tabs in the setup software. We have to do this once when we clicked defaults by mistake. Best of luck
Standard settings are:
PID Controller
ROLL P:10 I:0.15 D:12
PITCH P:10 I:0.25 D:15
Motor Config
ROLL Power:140 Poles: 14
PITCH Power: 100 Poles: 14
-Advanced
Timings
PWM Frequency: HIGH
Rest of the settings shouldn't matter if you've reset to default
thank u
Hi good video, can you upload the paper instruction link again plsss?..... the link is bad
Sorry, we no longer have the file but this looks like it - www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiHqqy7qO3NAhUqDcAKHTV1AIYQFggeMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.basecamelectronics.com%2Ffiles%2Fv10%2FSimpleBGC_manual_2_2_eng.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFhTcz11hSfZyBlYDFgAhoLvxhCjA&sig2=W6t_b8Z4WZ_SRqd2XSF4CA
Hi, Thank you so much for your video. I see that you made some adapter to fit the battery plugs, but is is ok to use the 4pin jst-xh directly? if I just solder the - and + wires to the board and ignore the other 2 wires on the 4pins jst-xh?
Binh Nguyen I use something like that all the time here - see the soldering videos in the RC quick tips playlist.
Double check polarity and voltage out of your new connector before plugging it in - always pays to be safe not sorry..
I have a mobius. What do you recommend to do to get it well balanced on this gimbal design? Currently, I have it mounted far out of the mounting plate to keep it relatively balanced, though because it is so light weight it tends to vibrate and buzz, weirdly enough, it does not add any noticeable jello to the recordings, but it does reduce the sharpness (similar to motion blur.) My guess it that it high frequency noise.
Also with this mount, I have a good bit of jello to work out. I have some EMAX 2213 motors, and some reasonably balanced nylon 10x4.5 props. If I add some foam between the mobius and the gimbal, vibs become really bad. I think lowering the P and D on the gimbal will fix it, but have not tried it yet.
Hi there Painless. I watched your video on how to adjust the level settings manually. I have the same gimbal as yours in the vid, apart from mine is silver. I have tried the 3 button presses but nothing happens. It connects to the software ok and gives live data on what the sensors are doing and also responds when you click "read" and "write" when making changes. My Gopro settles tilted slightly forward and is a little annoying that the sensor thinks its level. Any suggestions please?
Does the software show which number of switch presses is used on your gimbal for 'Set tilt angles by hand' in the 'Menu Tab'? Use that number of presses.
If you do not have it listed as an option, add it. Hope this helps.
Happy flying!
Hi, Do you know hot to connect this board to flight controller so I can control roll and pitch using my transmitter? I don't have PWM possibility so only connecting it to FC can be used to control them?
If you don't have PWM on the Rx that you can use then most flight controller have the ability to 'passthrouigh' an aux chennel to a spare PWM motor output for things like this. Look at pass-thru or channel forwarding in the manual/documentation for the flight controller and software you have.
Thank you very much, I've used Servo_Tilt as Channel Forwarding is impossible to understand and made it work.
To give some info, Servo_Tilt didn't work on latest CF 2.0.1 and 2.0.2, but I've flashed to BF 3.1.7 and it worked. The catch is if you want it to work you need to add servo under resource using motor ID.
So if you would like for example use PWM pin for motor 5 then (resource motor 5 none, then resource servo 0 XYY depending on ID you had for motor 5)
@Painless360 maybe if you could make some video for Channel Forwarding ;)
you wouldn't happen to know how to control the pitch when your output is set to ppm? There is ppm option in the simplebgc gooey which I have tried and still doesn't work. I can get it to work but setting my output to pwm but then I can't control the quadcopter. I'm using a naze32 board.
I'd look at channel forwarding to send one of the channels onto an unused PWM output.. Best of luck!
Just for now I’m going to use the pitch control as I only have 1 spare channel (channel 5), I want to use the top right slider button on my fs i6s radio to control the pitch, would I just connect a wire from the signal pin on the gimbal to the signal pin on channel 5 of the receiver (powering the receiver and gimbal separately)? If so then it’s not working for me. Thanks for replying so quickly for my other questions and sorry if I sound like a noob (I am)
hi again. ive just purchased another gimbal for my octo but when i connect it it says its running a newer version of the gui. can i flash the gimbal to the 2.2b2 the same as my others and any help how would be great. many thanks yet again
No idea, sorry. I'd ask the vendor in case they can help. Best of luck!
Hello !!
Very nice video !!!! I will try my Gimbal on next week ends !!! Thanks a lot..
which motor can I use with the BGC board?
Me again, lol.. You may have answered this before or in another Vid, but how do you connect this gimbal to the Naze32 Full so I can control pitch with one of my slider switched on my Taranis ? Which Pin should I connect to, 5 or 6 (since the motors are 1-4) is there anything I need to do on the Naze set up? Thanks in advance, your a HUGE help!!!
+tntaftershock I haven't connected it to the gimbal but to the PWM pins of a receiver so I can 'tweak' the direction in flight. Best of luck..
+Painless360 sorry for the dumb question but what is PWM?
See our explanation on the channel - a lot of the answers are here somewhere.. ;)
+Painless360 I finally got it figured out, you can control this gimbal thru the Naze32, with CleanFlight. I don't have the fancy setup to show on the computer like you do but this is how I did it, with my taranis using the left slider.
1 click on Servo Tilt
2 clicked on Channel Forwarding
3 under "Servos" I clicked Servo 0, A4
I set my left slider to channel 8 which became AUX 4
and BAM, I can control the pitch of the camera and it also maintains level balance in flight.
I do have one small issue, the camera has a very slight "twitch" and I have not figured out how to stop it. when I disconnect the gimbal from the Naze32 the twitch stops so somewhere there is a setting I have not found yet to adjust to stop this, but its not bad enough to prevent a video. If you can play with the settings and find a cure I would be in your debt. Thank you good sir.
Great explanation! Not sure about the twitch as in practice I don't fly with gimbals controlled by the FC. Best of luck and happy flying!
Hi, could you tell me how I would use a radio transmitter to control the roll and pitch of the gimbal please, I can’t figure it out
+Andrew Keir see how I show control using a servo checker. You need to connect those two connections to spare outputs on your radio receiver. Best of luck.
Just for now I’m going to use the pitch control as I only have 1 spare channel (channel 5), I want to use the top right slider button on my fs i6s radio to control the pitch, would I just connect a wire from the signal pin on the gimbal to the signal pin on channel 5 of the receiver (powering the receiver and gimbal separately)? Thanks for replying so quickly for my other questions and sorry if I sound like a noob (I am)
If so then it’s not working for me, the gimbal is not moving up or down when I use the scroller on the radio transmitter (VRA) which I put as channel 5 on the i6s, please help
I'm new at gimbal stuff , so how can I see what the camera recording do I install fpv camera with it ? Or do I use the recordering camera as an fpv ?
You usually setup a camera switcher or have a second operator control the gimbal camera..
@@Painless360 so do you mean I contact the camera on the gimbal in the VTX ?
Check out the big boys toys playlist as there is more camera stuff in there..
hi. can i use it on my cx 20 no? i can connect it to aux 1 aux 2 to control it? thx
+Drónok és sok más If that model provides two PWM connections for that then maybe..
+Painless360 Thanks. i want to use it on the cx with a xiaomi yi
Hey... Same problem like Dave.... Only RED light and no movement on the motors.. HELP HELP please THX
+kamishibai I'd contact the vendor for help if the power connection is all ok and there is a camera in the gimbal to balance it out..
+Painless360 camera is balnce.... when i buy evrything woking.. but one time i want turn on gimbal. Only red light motors no mevement and when i want connect to PC "Serial data currupted"
hi,
I plan to buy a gimbal like this, because it is the cheapest ATM, but I don't want to use it for FPV yet, but to use it as a handheld stabilizer on my spider camera rig.
Can you help me, with some circuit scheme for example how to build the cheapest and most simple controller for the manual pitch and roll controls (using switches or potentiometers and no servo tester)?
As I know the 3 pins have -, + and signal, all I want to do is just send a correct 'signal' for one direction when pushing a button or turning a potentiometer manualy without a transmitter/receiver.
You can manually set the angle of this gimbal by hand (see th-cam.com/video/wv301eDPIBI/w-d-xo.html) so unless you want to move the position while in use you can avoid any other electronics.
If you do want to move it then you will need something like a servo tester to change the PWM values sent to the board like I did in the video. A pot won't do anything.
Good luck with the project!
Thank you, so I will need to buy 2 servo testers. I want to change the pitch during recording of video, I cannot use the manual adjust mode.
That's the idea. This is like the one I used in the video and would allow you to remove the flimsy cover and put them into a custom case if needed - www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__14774__HobbyKing_8482_Servo_Tester.html
Good luck with the project.
yes, this is the cheapest, starting from 2 dollars on ebay.
Could this one also work?
www.banggood.com/Multimeter-Tester-for-Servos-ESC-Multi-axis-Aircraft-p-915499.html
I guess I would need to have some voltage regulator to got 5Volts from my 12Volt battery for the servo tester, but it is also not a big issue :) just the smaller 150mA max version of LM7805 could do it.
It would but surely you'll need an easer to see and move control to move the servo output? A UBEC and small 2s lipo will deliver the power you need. Good luck with the project.
I'm about to buy this gimbal, although I intend to butcher it so I can mount it inline with the frame rather than hanging below. My question is: can the pitch motor be switched over to the other side of the camera? I have the gopro 2, and looking at your video, there doesn't seem to be much room to spare for the video out cable.
I recently came across your channel while working on a DIY S500 build, and had a gimble question. I have a gopto hero4 and came across seller on ebay selling zenmuse h3 3 axis gimbles for $50 usd shipped. Can these be controlled via any flight controller or are they only for use on DJI products?
Not sure. I've not used that one.. Best of luck with it
I can't tilt the camera connecting it to my apm 2.5.2. I'm powering it with a power module, connected ONLY the signal pitch to the SIGNAL A11 port from my APM, did all the configuration in mission planner but when i turn my radio knob, it does not move. In the apm manual says that connecting other cable will result in a brownout, I don't know what to do
+faxikax Sorry, I've never set mine up that way. Best of luck with it..
+Painless360 Its a brushless motor gimbal. Does it make any diference with the connections??
Book a chargeable support call (see www.painless360.com) and I can take you though it.
Hello Painless360,
I am setting up a quad with an APM 2.6 following your videos. I now want to add this same gimbal to it. Where should i connect the gimbal wire to? The receiver or the APM controller?
Thank you
+Carlos Cameselle I would connect it to the receiver myself - far more control. Best of luck!
hi, the voltage to feed the gimbal is 5v or 12v? i saw u are using the balance port to feed it...
Victor Gomes hey did you figure out how to connect the gimbals power cable to a battery? if you did what voltage and c rating did you use?
Hi men!! really good video but isn´t work with my gimbal..
Can you please upload a save profile of your gimbal setup in sbgc??
thanks a lot
+Fernando Sanz S all of the settings in each tab can be seen in the video.. Best of luck!
Velcro strap is making mine rattle and vibrate badly. I replaced it with an elastic band and it was TOTALLY silent :)
I'm probably very late, but when I try to turn on the gimbal, the motors do nothing, even when I try to calibrate it by hand, the motors do nothing. The software recognizes the movement though. What is happening?
+JustA Norwegian I'd check that the power is ok. I've not seen that here so I'd let the vendor know..
Did you ever silence the motors?
Yep, needed to power cycle everything..
Few questions...
Do you get the strap that holds the gopro in place? And does the strap have a glass lens or is it hollow?
How to you mount the gimbal on a DJI F450? Or does it just mount easily on a phantom 2? If so I could get a adapter plate :)
The strap came with the gimbal and doesn't' have any lens, that part goes over the GoPro lens housing. You can also get them from eBay separately too.
You need to buy the longer legs and then you can mount the gimbal to the underside of the craft using the nuts/bolts supplied. Don't know about the Phantom - I don't use them myself.
Happy flying!
So no adapter for the F450?
No that I've seen. You screw it into the bottom plate..
The two front big holes in the plate and gimbal?
Sorry I don't understand the question..