After watching Gabe Millers videos I came over here and watched all the calc videos. Got my Circuit Rhythm finally and its everything I hoped it would be and more. Cant wait to see some more firmware updates.
@@vznquest I think the biggest feature of the SP-404 SX which is unmatched to this day is the ease with which an artist can load and play entire songs or backing tracks, in stereo, streamed from the SD card, on individual pads. The 404 sequencer was always pretty clunky (limited voices, rudimentary controls, no chromatic notes) but the 404 has been used by loads of bands and artists for DJ sets and entire backing tracks. The Circuit Rhythm looks like a lot of fun but its focus on the sequencer means there isn't much overlap between it and the 404.
@@lstlvls2521 that the SP 404 (sx or a) can do, check out the channel Le Mellotron (Kryo is a good example) for example of that, but Novation is known for blessing it’s product line with updates, so this feature could be in the cards.
Love the Rhythm and use it regularly. It's easy to get ideas going and flesh them out. Some nice happy accidents can happen with all the hands on controls. One thing I wish would be updated is the ability to remove a pack from the Rhythm that is stored on the sd card. Being able to do it from the device itself would be great, but at LEAST the ability to remove it from Components is needed. It's a bit of a pain to have to pull the sd card, load it up on a computer, and then figure out which subdirectory to delete to remove the pack.
@@ilikeitdark13I can remove packs in components without issue on mine... File management without a screen could end up wiry frustrating loss of data so I can see why they don't let you do it on device
Just bought Novation circuit tracks, all I can say its great machine to make tracks and live jamming. Looking forward to buy rhythm as well, I think they will be great team to make live jamming...
I know it's not even out yet but I have firmware requests: increased note resolution (please at least increase it from 6ppq to 8 or 16). Include bitrate/sample quality as one of the automatable sample settings and not just a performance effect. Give the pan setting its own screen (divide stereo spectrum into 8 left/8 right so pan can be sequenced on a step-by-step basis just like velocity). Include mixer state and grid FX in Scenes. Please?
I find the rhythm an almost perfect device its so fun to use everything on the device was thought out well novation are geniuses to make a device that works so well if the Roland sp404 was steven Hawkins the novation circuit rhythm would be bryan cox .. meaning it makes a complicated thing seem simple and fun....i wonder if novation will add an eq to either the mixer for individual tracks where u could just scroll down after pan to get the functions or even a master eq as a grid effect ..i keep seeing people wanting time stretch that would be cool ..but even a time stretch effect on grid effects would sound cool. Or a way to turn normalize on and off...
Thanks for taking the time to share this with us, Lee! It's great to hear that you're enjoying Circuit Rhythm. We really appreciate your feedback and suggestions 🙌🙏
Thanks for your interest, Luis. The maximum length of a Sample, whether recorded via the audio input, resampled or imported using Components, is 33 seconds. Each Pack can store a maximum of 222 seconds or 3 min 40 sec worth of samples, accessed from 128 Sample slots.
In slice mode, can you change how the slices play (e.g. playthrough, gated or looped)? Also, can you parameter-lock the pitch of specific slices in the step editor? I know you could workaround the latter by copying each slice as a unique sample but that would eat up 4/8/16 sample slots instead of just the one. If these things are not presently possible, please consider them for firmware updates.
Hey yeh in slice mode you can change the playback to one shot/gated/loop. You can also automate pitch on a per step basis (so you automate the sequencer step rather than the slice) with duplicate you can then easily copy this automation around to different steps as well Also its worth noting that the playback options and number os slices are all dynamic and can be changed during playback so can be really performable!
Has Novation considered partnering with a sample library company or a breakbeat covers band to showcase the Rhythm? Having scoured youtube for any/all mention of the Rhythm, it's apparent that people are hamstrung in their inability to use samples to showcase a sampler. When Korg launched their Volca Sample, they got the group OK Go to make a bunch of samples for it. Novation should really reach out to El Michels Affair or Bad Bad Not Good or somebody like them to create a pack of loops. Just a thought.
So the Circuit Rhythm can actually record mic into itself directly with XLR to Quarter inch adaptor? Seems like a powerful device. You are the first to mention that it can record mic without preamp.
Not quite. In this video, microphones are not directly connected to Circuit Rhythm. They're connected via XLR to a mixer - off-screen - and the audio output from the mixer is then connected to the Circuit Rhythm audio inputs. Circuit Rhythms audio inputs are designed to receive line-level signals and aren't specifically designed to receive microphone level sources but you should find that dynamic microphones work well if connected directly.
Great question. Chris tells me that this was essentially discovered through experimentation. Dropping the sample down an interval of a 4th takes it from 120BPM down to 90BPM. John // Novation UK 🇬🇧
Thanks for your feedback on this! You can currently control many of Circuit Rhythms parameters, such as the mixer, using an external controller. As Launch Control XL is designed to control Ableton Live on Mac/Windows PC, you will need an additional USB MIDI Host device in order to convert and connect it to Circuit Rhythm via 5 pin DIN. Afraid there are no current plans to deliver a Scale Mode to Circuit Rhythm as it's a hardware sampler into which you can record and import samples of any pitch but we appreciate your interest in a feature like that.
Yes. There are several ways of achieving that. If you're working with multiple different samples on the same track and are finding that the Tune macro affects them all, you can use Note View to assign a different pitch to each sample using the chromatic keyboard. Alternatively, you could record per-step Tune macro automation to repitch samples individually. To do that, enable Record and move into Velocity View where you trigger the pad whilst making changes to the Tune macro for each step in the sequence, then switch Record off. Or you could repitch and resample the sample several times to have different pitched versions saved amongst your samples. John // Novation UK 🇬🇧
Hi. I want to get one but I'm concerned that the battery can leak onto the board if dead. Can this happen? Also, will it work via USB if the battery is unplogged?
Will the drum section respond to MIDI input from an external drum plugin's MIDI output? Previous versions' drum section will only respond to 4 MIDI notes rendering it's drum section useless in a DAW. I often use Circuit as an external MIDI instrument but it only works with synths 1 & 2, be really nice if I could include the drum section as well. I have thousands if MIDI drum files, would love to use them with Circuit.
Thanks for your interest. Unlike Circuit and Circuit Tracks, Circuit Rhythm doesn't really have a dedicated "Drum section". Circuit Rhythm is a standalone hardware sampler that has 8 Sample Tracks that can be used for a variety of musical purposes. That said, each of the 8 tracks can be addressed individually via MIDI but as they are monophonic, one Sample can be played on each track for every step/micro-step in the sequence.
@@NovationTV I am used to loading circuit packs into circuit using components, I assume these packs will not work with Rhythm. So I assume that in Logic Pro I would set up Circuit Rhythm with 8 MIDI Logic tracks, a different channel for each track and create samples for each track with whatever sound source I choose such as snippets of audio loops. Logic has a built in sample and sequencer program that can create an 8x8 grid, could these horizontal tracks be used to create the sample input for Rhythm? I assume I would have to use audio tracks instead of MIDI tracks. Otherwise I could just create 8 audio tracks. A little confused as to how I can use Logic with Rhythm as an external MIDI instrument, doesn't sound feasible, is it feasible?
46:20 the recorded sound goes to the next available empty pad? Would I be able to copy the newly recorded pad to say track one, replacing a pad that already has a sound assigned to it? And lastly I see there is no mention of an undo button?
- To record a new sample you just need to enter Sample Rec View and select an empty sample slot/pad that you would like to record into. - If we understand you correctly, then yes. You can copy Patterns to other tracks and assign samples to multiple tracks, immediately replacing any samples previously in use on tracks without changing the Pattern data. - Circuit Rhythm doesn't feature an Undo function but any notes or even entire Patterns entered in error can quickly be removed using Clear. If you'd like to learn more about Circuit Rhythm, you may want to take a look at the User Guide, available here - bit.ly/CircuitRhythmUG
Why, oh why….. when you edit a sample’s start point, or end point…. does it affect EVERY sample on that track? This has got to change in a future firmware update. Please make it per-sample.
It doesn't on my circuit rhythm, have you updated? On mine once in sample slice mode the start and end point is per slice, make sure you are in keyboard mode after entering sample slice mode
@@IC-Alchemy Slice mode only? Ok... thanks! I was trying to do it without being in slice mode, even destructively... and it affected every sample in the track
@@IC-Alchemy After entering slice mode, going into Keyboard Mode just makes the entire sample playable across the octave, not each slice. Am I doing something wrong? Latest firmware. Thx!
@@DopamineOverload So when in keyboard mode you only get one slice, but in the sample mode you get the individual slices and can edit each slice's sample start and end separately. But in slice mode you can't play the same at different pitches (unless you use the pitch knob with shift which shift the pitch by half steps. If you hold down a sample trigger you can edit the automation per step, which could be a work around to get sample slices and "keyboard mode" functionality.
The beauty of the Circuits is that the buttons end up acting as your screen.
After watching Gabe Millers videos I came over here and watched all the calc videos. Got my Circuit Rhythm finally and its everything I hoped it would be and more. Cant wait to see some more firmware updates.
Enjoy! 🙌
Gabe speak much much too fast 4 meh,almost hysterical with his fingers modes 😮😅
I think this is going to be huge with a culture of beat makers behind it!
@@vznquest I think the biggest feature of the SP-404 SX which is unmatched to this day is the ease with which an artist can load and play entire songs or backing tracks, in stereo, streamed from the SD card, on individual pads. The 404 sequencer was always pretty clunky (limited voices, rudimentary controls, no chromatic notes) but the 404 has been used by loads of bands and artists for DJ sets and entire backing tracks. The Circuit Rhythm looks like a lot of fun but its focus on the sequencer means there isn't much overlap between it and the 404.
@@lstlvls2521 that the SP 404 (sx or a) can do, check out the channel Le Mellotron (Kryo is a good example) for example of that, but Novation is known for blessing it’s product line with updates, so this feature could be in the cards.
@@lstlvls2521 Yup, the SP-404 is for playing MP3's
The Circuit Rhythm is for musicians making new music ; )
Love the Rhythm and use it regularly. It's easy to get ideas going and flesh them out. Some nice happy accidents can happen with all the hands on controls.
One thing I wish would be updated is the ability to remove a pack from the Rhythm that is stored on the sd card. Being able to do it from the device itself would be great, but at LEAST the ability to remove it from Components is needed. It's a bit of a pain to have to pull the sd card, load it up on a computer, and then figure out which subdirectory to delete to remove the pack.
Thanks for your feedback on this, glad you're enjoying it!
Great idea, Was this ever included in an update?
@@ilikeitdark13I can remove packs in components without issue on mine... File management without a screen could end up wiry frustrating loss of data so I can see why they don't let you do it on device
I’ve been sampling this video 🤫😅
Can’t wait to get mine :) this + Circuit Tracks is a great combo.
Or even an old school Novation Circuit.
Just epic thanks for the awesome presentation! Looking forward to the next!
Though i'm french and you'are really sounding British (Australian?) I understand about all your' explanation. Want 2 thank U for that. 😊
I was stuck... now I am out of the learning valley. BigUps for this tutorial m8. Great stuff!
Glad you found this useful!
I love the not polyphony "limitation"
It forces you to create chords and sample them!
Just bought Novation circuit tracks, all I can say its great machine to make tracks and live jamming.
Looking forward to buy rhythm as well, I think they will be great team to make live jamming...
I am thinking of doing the same....how did it turn out for you?
Amazing, thanks so much.
Brilliant demonstration, thanks! Budget forces me to choose between this one and the Tracks. Torture!!!
Glad you enjoyed this, hopefully it was useful. That's certainly a tough call!
I know it's not even out yet but I have firmware requests: increased note resolution (please at least increase it from 6ppq to 8 or 16). Include bitrate/sample quality as one of the automatable sample settings and not just a performance effect. Give the pan setting its own screen (divide stereo spectrum into 8 left/8 right so pan can be sequenced on a step-by-step basis just like velocity). Include mixer state and grid FX in Scenes. Please?
I find the rhythm an almost perfect device its so fun to use everything on the device was thought out well novation are geniuses to make a device that works so well if the Roland sp404 was steven Hawkins the novation circuit rhythm would be bryan cox .. meaning it makes a complicated thing seem simple and fun....i wonder if novation will add an eq to either the mixer for individual tracks where u could just scroll down after pan to get the functions or even a master eq as a grid effect ..i keep seeing people wanting time stretch that would be cool ..but even a time stretch effect on grid effects would sound cool. Or a way to turn normalize on and off...
Thanks for taking the time to share this with us, Lee! It's great to hear that you're enjoying Circuit Rhythm. We really appreciate your feedback and suggestions 🙌🙏
Oow, a loop of 14:45 and 14:34 would sound great with the melody looping after. 20:54 is sick. 1:05:40 sick. Outro is sickness
Rhythms cool and that, where did you get that t-shirt though ?
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Sago Calc thank you 👍👍👍🎛🎚🎧
Very cool. Is the maximum allowed sample time of 3min 40 sec the total for the eight tracks combined? Or, is it 3:40 per track sample?
Thanks for your interest, Luis. The maximum length of a Sample, whether recorded via the audio input, resampled or imported using Components, is 33 seconds. Each Pack can store a maximum of 222 seconds or 3 min 40 sec worth of samples, accessed from 128 Sample slots.
@@NovationTV Thank you very much for the inputs, much appreciated! This helps a lot.
In slice mode, can you change how the slices play (e.g. playthrough, gated or looped)? Also, can you parameter-lock the pitch of specific slices in the step editor? I know you could workaround the latter by copying each slice as a unique sample but that would eat up 4/8/16 sample slots instead of just the one. If these things are not presently possible, please consider them for firmware updates.
Hey yeh in slice mode you can change the playback to one shot/gated/loop. You can also automate pitch on a per step basis (so you automate the sequencer step rather than the slice) with duplicate you can then easily copy this automation around to different steps as well
Also its worth noting that the playback options and number os slices are all dynamic and can be changed during playback so can be really performable!
@@dannynugentmusic Thanks for the info.
Daar Calc….can you chain patterns like with the original Circuit to make longer ones? And record directly into those chained paterns?
Yup you can - this works exactly like the original and Circuit Tracks :)
Not being able to record in stereo and only to mono-summed files is a serious deal breaker.
Nah, not that big a “issue”
Sure…whatever. Choice is a good thing, find something else I guess.
Has Novation considered partnering with a sample library company or a breakbeat covers band to showcase the Rhythm? Having scoured youtube for any/all mention of the Rhythm, it's apparent that people are hamstrung in their inability to use samples to showcase a sampler. When Korg launched their Volca Sample, they got the group OK Go to make a bunch of samples for it. Novation should really reach out to El Michels Affair or Bad Bad Not Good or somebody like them to create a pack of loops. Just a thought.
Thanks for the feedback.
So the Circuit Rhythm can actually record mic into itself directly with XLR to Quarter inch adaptor? Seems like a powerful device. You are the first to mention that it can record mic without preamp.
Not quite. In this video, microphones are not directly connected to Circuit Rhythm. They're connected via XLR to a mixer - off-screen - and the audio output from the mixer is then connected to the Circuit Rhythm audio inputs. Circuit Rhythms audio inputs are designed to receive line-level signals and aren't specifically designed to receive microphone level sources but you should find that dynamic microphones work well if connected directly.
I'm looking to buy a standalone microphone for circuit rhythm. What should I look for? I don't find one with the required input type
@ 13:15 how did you know before hand that it was the G note that gave you the desired span of the sample across the 16 steps?
Great question. Chris tells me that this was essentially discovered through experimentation. Dropping the sample down an interval of a 4th takes it from 120BPM down to 90BPM.
John // Novation UK 🇬🇧
Please give up scale modes and midi cc messages to control each track in the mixer for individual volume control with the Launch Control XL :-)
Thanks for your feedback on this! You can currently control many of Circuit Rhythms parameters, such as the mixer, using an external controller. As Launch Control XL is designed to control Ableton Live on Mac/Windows PC, you will need an additional USB MIDI Host device in order to convert and connect it to Circuit Rhythm via 5 pin DIN.
Afraid there are no current plans to deliver a Scale Mode to Circuit Rhythm as it's a hardware sampler into which you can record and import samples of any pitch but we appreciate your interest in a feature like that.
@@NovationTV
Thanks for the immediate and helpful reply, appreciate it!
Is there a way to tune a sample down without tuning down the whole sample track? Thanks!
Yes. There are several ways of achieving that. If you're working with multiple different samples on the same track and are finding that the Tune macro affects them all, you can use Note View to assign a different pitch to each sample using the chromatic keyboard.
Alternatively, you could record per-step Tune macro automation to repitch samples individually. To do that, enable Record and move into Velocity View where you trigger the pad whilst making changes to the Tune macro for each step in the sequence, then switch Record off. Or you could repitch and resample the sample several times to have different pitched versions saved amongst your samples.
John // Novation UK 🇬🇧
Grid fx for individual tracks please
Hi. I want to get one but I'm concerned that the battery can leak onto the board if dead. Can this happen? Also, will it work via USB if the battery is unplogged?
With proper use and care, the battery should not leak at all. Yes, the Circuit Rhythm is USB bus powered when it's not running on its battery.
@@NovationTV Than you so much.
anyone know where to find part 2 of this? I started watching it live and didn't finish, and now I don't see it anywhere 🤷🏻♂️
Hi there, you can find Part 2 here: th-cam.com/video/zEMkD1hLXH0/w-d-xo.html
@@NovationTV thank you!
Will the drum section respond to MIDI input from an external drum plugin's MIDI output? Previous versions' drum section will only respond to 4 MIDI notes rendering it's drum section useless in a DAW. I often use Circuit as an external MIDI instrument but it only works with synths 1 & 2, be really nice if I could include the drum section as well. I have thousands if MIDI drum files, would love to use them with Circuit.
Thanks for your interest. Unlike Circuit and Circuit Tracks, Circuit Rhythm doesn't really have a dedicated "Drum section". Circuit Rhythm is a standalone hardware sampler that has 8 Sample Tracks that can be used for a variety of musical purposes. That said, each of the 8 tracks can be addressed individually via MIDI but as they are monophonic, one Sample can be played on each track for every step/micro-step in the sequence.
@@NovationTV I am used to loading circuit packs into circuit using components, I assume these packs will not work with Rhythm. So I assume that in Logic Pro I would set up Circuit Rhythm with 8 MIDI Logic tracks, a different channel for each track and create samples for each track with whatever sound source I choose such as snippets of audio loops. Logic has a built in sample and sequencer program that can create an 8x8 grid, could these horizontal tracks be used to create the sample input for Rhythm? I assume I would have to use audio tracks instead of MIDI tracks. Otherwise I could just create 8 audio tracks. A little confused as to how I can use Logic with Rhythm as an external MIDI instrument, doesn't sound feasible, is it feasible?
Understood, thank you!
How come the unit has stereo ins but then samples are saved as mono?
Think deeply and the answer will come to you.
@@geraldhenrickson7472 what a shit answer
How any bars can you program in each pattern
You can choose to have a 16- or 32-step Pattern on any track.
Can it resample internally while playing in effects mode?
Yes, you can resample with the effects active.
46:20 the recorded sound goes to the next available empty pad? Would I be able to copy the newly recorded pad to say track one, replacing a pad that already has a sound assigned to it? And lastly I see there is no mention of an undo button?
- To record a new sample you just need to enter Sample Rec View and select an empty sample slot/pad that you would like to record into.
- If we understand you correctly, then yes. You can copy Patterns to other tracks and assign samples to multiple tracks, immediately replacing any samples previously in use on tracks without changing the Pattern data.
- Circuit Rhythm doesn't feature an Undo function but any notes or even entire Patterns entered in error can quickly be removed using Clear.
If you'd like to learn more about Circuit Rhythm, you may want to take a look at the User Guide, available here - bit.ly/CircuitRhythmUG
@@NovationTV would I have to go to components to access a baseline in another pack, that is not currently loaded in the pack I am playing?
Just bought one and it plays no sound
Please discuss that with our Support Team, they'll help you find a fix - bit.ly/CallNovationSupport
Hi Kendra, we need a bit more information to help. Please reach out via social DMs or at bit.ly/NovationSupport.
Why, oh why….. when you edit a sample’s start point, or end point…. does it affect EVERY sample on that track? This has got to change in a future firmware update. Please make it per-sample.
It doesn't on my circuit rhythm, have you updated?
On mine once in sample slice mode the start and end point is per slice, make sure you are in keyboard mode after entering sample slice mode
@@IC-Alchemy Slice mode only? Ok... thanks! I was trying to do it without being in slice mode, even destructively... and it affected every sample in the track
@@IC-Alchemy After entering slice mode, going into Keyboard Mode just makes the entire sample playable across the octave, not each slice. Am I doing something wrong? Latest firmware. Thx!
@@DopamineOverload So when in keyboard mode you only get one slice, but in the sample mode you get the individual slices and can edit each slice's sample start and end separately.
But in slice mode you can't play the same at different pitches (unless you use the pitch knob with shift which shift the pitch by half steps.
If you hold down a sample trigger you can edit the automation per step, which could be a work around to get sample slices and "keyboard mode" functionality.
@@IC-Alchemy Gotcha, thanks for the clarification!