Thank you for sharing your genuine assessment as an immigrant 👏 Yay- looking forward to listening to your “Voice of an Immigrant” series which is a meaningful & practical topic 🌎!
As a HKer having lived here most of my life, I really admire your courage and postive energy!! It ain't easy to uproot your family and try to settle in a new environment.... I'm grateful it was my parents that took on most of the transition pain... but like yourself, I'm also a father of 2 young kids.... so I know it is tough to get work-life balance!! I just took my kids to HK last Nov. for a 2-week vacation... it was my first time back in 10 years... and... I re-assured myself that I didn't miss anything much in HK... the vibe has changed... locals got more and more bitter.... so ya, Canada is indeed our real home!!
I was able to book June appointment last night for passports! Book it and don't line up. You should be able to get it within 2-3 months! Also good luck with the applications for your mom. If it doesn't get approved, and your mom is the only relative remaining in hk, try and obtain a visitor visa first then stay in Vancouver and apply through humanitarian and compassionate reason! It may give you a chance! (I used to work in ircc) Good luck!
After 2019 event, my 2 nieces in HK had left HK for UK for good with their family. I already told my family in HK I will never see them again by stepping on HK/Chinese soil in my life if they decide to stay put there. I would not even transit in case if the police are waiting for me at the HK/China airport like the HK student studying in Japan. I hate to destroy my good memory of HK childhood by going back there other than security. My parents had passed away ages ago in HK so that I had no concern not going back there. Is it easy to sponsor your parent to come to live in Canada ? It is extremely difficult in my home country Australia ! Australia tend not to let anybody into the country espeicially if they do not benefit the country like old people and refugees. The parent quota is so small that you might need to wait for 20 years or 6-7 years if you decide to pay the govt to jump the queue.
Love Canada! Work-Life balance is really critical! Perfect climate in Canada! My parents are both living in Canada. They speak fluent English and really enjoying life in Canada! Still playing mahjong with friends! 😜😜
my frd also gor offer in china double salary, he went back to china to extract most money in his life and then plan to go back to aus after 65 to extract most benefits in aus after 65
我本來都係加拿大人、已經移咗民、我移民嘅時候媽咪大概70歲、跟住我都有耐唔耐返香港、本來都知道打算老媽子最後嗰幾年呢我一定會返嚟佢身邊陪佢結果有一次我返嚟嘅時候、剛好香港係最亂嘅時候、佢冇辦法出去買嘢食、但係我亦都好感謝咁多學生同香港人好勇敢咁行出來表達自己嘅意見、可以好大聲咁話俾世界聽香港唔係中國共產黨、香港人亦唔係每一個人都係喜回歸歡迎佢哋嘅、我哋都係表達自己嘅意見、其他好暴力嘅黑暗政治事件我哋真係唔可能會知。結果我又再留咗喺香港照顧佢年幾兩年、但係最後發覺佢有「柏金遜症」、老人家點都會有腦退化、覺得自己知的吾知的、心理非常恐懼模胡、說不出來、因此懷疑側邊嘅人、凡事問許多次、一切佢講嘅對我哋嚟講、係虛妄係假係重覆係冇可能、係無謂重覆的嘅但係我深信喺佢哋嘅腦袋裏邊佢哋覺得係真嘅咁你唔應該同佢坳只可以應該順從佢哋但係依件事係需要好大好大嘅能量。😢 講到照顧老人家當然要照顧佢嘅身體沖涼抹身喺床上招呼去廁所大小二便、當佢大便唔可能嘅時候你要幫佢手睇住大便出嚟然後同佢清潔我唔停咁話俾媽咪聽依個係佢屋企佢喺呢度嘅主人佢唔使驚、我假問佢可唔可以比我喺依度陪佢過夜佢好開心話OK可以俾我喺度因為我屋企太遠唔好返去啦今晚係我喺屋企瞓啦跟住半夜三間佢會起身質疑自己喺邊度質疑個時間然後要搵我。我要親身喺佢側邊安慰佢肯定佢我是在的、然後陪佢瞓一陣、佢都好有心瞓咗一陣間佢話返過你房間瞓啦你攰啦。⋯⋯ 結果因為柏金遜症所以肌肉逐步萎縮唔聽話手啦腳啦頸啦講嘢啦到最後係食道、醫生要插喉每日要餵放四餐營養奶要自己處理放入去、雖然如此、佢竟
然係冇發脾氣有時要喊我就叫佢喊出來啦打我啦結果都發洩咗出嚟大家都好舒服我唔可以送佢入老人院因為佢由細講到大都係好怕依件事佢性格好強佢唔可以比其他護士叫佢幾時食飯幾時着衫話佢去廁所唔好因為佢係超有尊嚴但係我相信每一個老人家唔係嘅只不過係冇辦法嘅啫當然換上我自己我已經有入老人院嘅準備我絕對係冇抗拒嘅但係老一代嘅老人家係非常非常之怕離開屋企、要住喺一個陌生俾人罵連的的溫暖都冇、同其他又陌生
又悪的人一齊住。重係自己最脆弱嘅時候。係冇晒戰鬥能力嘅時候先至俾人遺棄真係好像做錯什麼大事嘅監躉一樣。
顯示人生最悲哀嘅階段。我深信當我細嘅時候我母親會給我無盡嘅支持同埋願意做任何事甚至乎係咩住我坐巴士坐電車去睇醫生同埋擔憂我嘅生病到我而家強壯嘅時候我竟然可以丟低佢唔理、人以心比心佢可以咁為你點解你唔可以咁為佢呢
我嚟咗加拿大都好很久 你呢一集睇到我都想喊, 講起父母, 對一個孤兒嚟講, 雖然沒有什麼好嘅童年, 但沒有你們要照顧父母你們這種負擔. 希望你早日申請到媽媽過嚟, 祝福你和你家人健康快樂.
真希望一群新移民可以聽到你嘅分享 可以積極去面對新生活。你嘅正能量幫助好多人。好好嘅分享。又一成功短片。👍👍
再講 你呢條片實在好貼地。嘩 我哋一路睇片 一路好欣賞你。
感謝你誇獎🙏🙏🙏
非常同意，您说父母6，70岁还好，但是其实很多父母很不幸这个年纪开始生病了，希望大家的父母公婆都身体健康是中年人最大的幸福！我也一样，如果父母真的身体不适，该回家必须回家，养了我长大，绝对不可以让他们承受孤独和痛苦。
KO佬,你呢集講出咗好多人嘅心底話❤祝伯母嘅申請成功,你哋一家幸福美滿😊
是，愛要及時。在一起就好，即使面對逆境，也能平安喜樂。時間人物比地點重要。
很難得你有這份孝心。明白老人的難處。 你今天所做一切，将给你女兒一1個 好榜樣。👍
👍👍👍講得非常之好
我們舊年來到多倫多，都一直與家人保持聯絡，但內心都好掛住香港的親人，，多謝亞佬講出心聲及正面分享。真是好多野要適應
非常認同。欣賞您的孝心，祝福世伯伯友移加順利🙏🙏同埋，最緊要👉快🙏🙏
父母係最重要一點令人唔想移民，要同父母分開真係好難。
希望佢抽籤成功啦，有排抽
無可以旅行簽先帶屋企人過去先嗎？慢慢再申請
@@谷林蒋 这样过来的父母都是没有医疗保险滴，风险很大。
@@koarlo 几时开始抽签都不知，哎。。。。
@@stevenwang4561 旅遊保險賣就有喇
講到申請父母，最緊要是父母是否想移民.我們移民澳洲60多年了。過去3，40年內申請申請了所有兄弟姊妹過來。所以父母也跟着來了。父親靜，所以很適應澳洲生活。但母親沒有每天的去飲茶及打麻雀，如有不懂英語，生活得很不愉快。她常說如果不是父親來澳洲她是不會來的。另外一方面我母親的弟弟被申請到去加拿大多倫多。六個月後哭着回來，他真的不能接受多倫多的生活。結果她女兒，即我的表妹陪他回香港。他開心得多了。表妹至今仍在香港一個人。所以盡考有很多種情況，最緊要問問老人家的心願。
最緊要生活開心，有得選擇，當然也要問老人家意見，但我媽只剩她一個在香港，所以現在暫以遊客身份定居加拿大
謝謝分享，好同意你想法，祝快快成功申請團聚❤
多謝祝福
非常認同和心身體會。真是一個很成功和吸引的短片。多謝你！😘💕❤️👍👋👏👏
阿佬你好孝順 你的父母好幸福 ！你們要珍惜女兒們在身邊的時候 😊 她們長大後大學生活之後工作大多時間週圍飛😢過來人真心話👌🏻
William 其實都估到，可能到時我會接受到掛，佢地現在每日抱著我，真係好好記住
子女不是你生存的中心點，你養大佢地係你自身責任，但不是要他們長大後供養番你或和你一齊住過世為回報，有時間便多做些自己有興趣的事吧！
唔係一定要 子女回報或一齊住到過世 而係希望能夠互相關注 餘生能多見面 因為日後面對父母日子已不多 做仔女要懂得珍惜最後嘅日子 因為父母遲早都會離開你.轉世 相見無期
目標清析👍祝你父母早日成功申請與你團聚🙏
呢樣嘢我真係要聽天由命
Thank you for sharing your genuine assessment as an immigrant 👏
Yay- looking forward to listening to your “Voice of an Immigrant” series which is a meaningful & practical topic 🌎!
Nice video. Sound is good. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Thank you for your support
聽你講嘢真係正！好有當年一齊工作嘅feel!!!😆😆
當年我日日收音機咁不停講😂😂
As a HKer having lived here most of my life, I really admire your courage and postive energy!! It ain't easy to uproot your family and try to settle in a new environment.... I'm grateful it was my parents that took on most of the transition pain... but like yourself, I'm also a father of 2 young kids.... so I know it is tough to get work-life balance!! I just took my kids to HK last Nov. for a 2-week vacation... it was my first time back in 10 years... and... I re-assured myself that I didn't miss anything much in HK... the vibe has changed... locals got more and more bitter.... so ya, Canada is indeed our real home!!
父母可以自己照顧自己，已經係對仔女最大嘅祝福。
Wish you all the best and be united with your mom here soon! ❤️🙏🏻
士丹利你讲得好好我完全认同，簡直系同感受
Peter 🙏🙏🙏🙏 共勉之
All the best bro, and hope your sponsorship to parents go smoothly 🙏
我正正就係呢個(母親80幾歲)關係而選擇不移民, 始終係佢一手帶大我地長大成人,好希望嚮佢有生之年盡力陪伴左右.
黃絲都冇人性嘅，都係留英國啦
你才是真正地盡孝道！願上天賞賜你們恩褔滿滿🙏🙏💐💐
很感性，以我來說，只要子女whatsap 他/ 她的日常生活點滴，就是很好的精神食粮，放心找你的幸福。
我媽是個周週身病的老人家，又癌又失智，但我弟弟當我媽是個寶，他排除萬難，帶了我媽一起移民，所以移民和孝道是可以並存的
如果是英BNO 带父母就容易。 其他如美加、 澳就不容易
支持！鐘意睇KO阿佬你share心路歷程！👍👍
呢個係我喜歡你啲片嘅原因，因為唔一定吃喝玩樂，有時只係講生活日常，買嘢呀咁，好貼地，好有感覺。
驚悶親你😅 間唔中講下好了
正能量💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
KO, thanks for bringing up this topic to let us think about... I like your videos. Appreciated!
Thank you for your comments and support 😊 I just want to share what I thinking inside my brain
好期待你既移民系列呀！😇
好真誠👍
心裡面的想法
好親切多謝分享❤
主持人一定要坚持你的思维，申請父母一齌到加拿大，令你可以盡你責任去同他們安享餘下的晚年。
我也经歷過你現在的情况（我80年代尾移民），祝你能完成願望，如成事，你下半生人都會好適懷，好安樂。
有机會温哥華見
盡力堅持，做到幾多幾多啦
祝福你申請母親順利🙏🏻🙏🏻
多謝你分享👍
Thank you Apple
支持你的決定，也認同你的想法！
Support you !! 💪💪
Thank you Kenny
Very inspirational. You pointed out the reality. Please share more feelings with us.
非常認同, 多謝你既分享, 支持你拍多D片
多謝你呀, 我都期待你出片😊
@@koarlo 超花時間，可能做Short 算，佩服你咁勁揪
非常認同，多謝晒🙏
I was able to book June appointment last night for passports! Book it and don't line up. You should be able to get it within 2-3 months! Also good luck with the applications for your mom. If it doesn't get approved, and your mom is the only relative remaining in hk, try and obtain a visitor visa first then stay in Vancouver and apply through humanitarian and compassionate reason! It may give you a chance! (I used to work in ircc) Good luck!
祝早曰團聚
Thank you
阿佬說中心坎裏了，在港的年邁母親就是我心中對香港的牽掛，雖然天天電話，但不能在身邊就是叫人牽掛！😔
阿佬如果可以請分享下如何申請父母來加定居，好像未聽過其他K O L分享過，謝謝你🙏🏻🥰
可以的。。我計劃下，其實只要夠年收入 ，如sponsor一個 ，你本身四人家庭就 變成5人，大約家庭收入6萬左右，你要check 下，之後就戊紙抽籤
@@koarlo 謝謝你，我都聽過下，但D資料人言人殊，所以如果阿佬可以統一下資料應該對好多觀眾都有幫助🙏🏻🥰
After 2019 event, my 2 nieces in HK had left HK for UK for good with their family. I already told my family in HK I will never see them again by stepping on HK/Chinese soil in my life if they decide to stay put there.
I would not even transit in case if the police are waiting for me at the HK/China airport like the HK student studying in Japan. I hate to destroy my good memory of HK childhood by going back there other than security.
My parents had passed away ages ago in HK so that I had no concern not going back there.
Is it easy to sponsor your parent to come to live in Canada ? It is extremely difficult in my home country Australia !
Australia tend not to let anybody into the country espeicially if they do not benefit the country like old people and refugees.
The parent quota is so small that you might need to wait for 20 years or 6-7 years if you decide to pay the govt to jump the queue.
支持sponsor父母做pr!越早做越好~
支持KO阿佬！重温中！
💪💪💪
Thank you ar
謝謝你share! 我都掙扎中. 澳洲生活壓力無禁大,但見香港既父母年紀開始大,想珍惜同佢地相處,趁佢哋仲可以周圍旅行.
真係好值得反思
父母嗰part真係最難搞的．你真係講得好啱!而家ok, 但90 歲之後又點?我一路都係擔心同想著這一點!我係美國LA , 喜歡睇你的片!
Thank you Angee 雖然我都唔知點，只係心聲，好多人不敢面對的
我都覺得同父母分開住係最大問題，所以每次諗移民都係俾呢樣嘢kick住!如果呢樣嘢解決到就即移同易諗好多了!
明白 我相信好多人真係好好 好似Gary咁 但一定有一方損失
講出我心聲，好寫實既問題。
明白你感受，
近2-3年身邊朋友，家庭移居！
的確係好真
講得好好！
Thank you Irene
Hey KO, you are very spot on the parents topic. Trigger my deeper thought on this😅
Same same
Love Canada! Work-Life balance is really critical! Perfect climate in Canada! My parents are both living in Canada. They speak fluent English and really enjoying life in Canada! Still playing mahjong with friends! 😜😜
Yeah 👍👍👍
哈哈最緊要有錢
真实啊！！最后绕不过去的都是亲情。
I don’t agree about the comparison between HK and 🇨🇦 on the compensation , average people is still getting C$36000 yearly .. make more pay more tax ..
講到好多香港人心底話👍👍👍
講得好, 真心話, 好認同
個人認為, 應該好多人都可能係慣咗20幾30年嘅"港式方便生活"
相信去到外國生活, 第一時間應該會有頗大嘅生活形式落差...
習慣...適應...覺得真係個人接受能力問題, 保持自我...抗拒大過入鄉隨俗...相信都好易出現回流心態
想回流之前, 真係要諗清楚自己最初點解要去第二個地方繼續下半生~
(我都想走...但係無錢...無學歷/技能)
非常同意KO哥既睇法, 父母喺移民最大既顧慮。先唔講佢地反對, 但無辦法經常見到, 佢地有咩病痛, 唔可以去睇佢地, 的確會有內玖。其實兩公婆都想為左仔女移民, 但父母呢一關唔容易取捨。
但如你後生，你都可以考慮一下的，有時無辦法
自己平衡一下嗰情況
大時代總會有很多家庭被拆散，每一個人追求各自的幸福，我們毋須互相比較，只要自己做對的事，開心也好，煩惱也好，至少都係自己自由意志，一定比那些身不由己的奴隸人民更自在！
有反省，有進步
正👍🏻
今次遲了🤣🤣🤣講笑
@@koarlo 😆😆😆
The guy said he was a Canadian, so he was not immigrating, he was returning to Canada. So what is he talking about...?
Not returning, just got citizenship
我去咗倫敦一年多啲，找工作沒有想像中困難，天氣同環境亦沒有想像中難適應，我相信係個人有極積極同樂觀去面對新環境新挑戰。
對香港其實已經沒有感覺，客觀點就是中國其中一個城市，當日的感情，就如分咗手的人，為何還要耿耿於懷去記住呢？而跟你一樣，母親就是不願意離開…呢個最頭痕…😂
講就易，老實講返去自己鄉下見到間祖屋都百感交集
聽有人講移民之後屋企裝左cam,老人家隨時上網都睇到外國客廳情況，大家感覺好似近啲。或者可以試下？
贊同！
對的，回流只有一個原因就是父母在香港需要照顧。 我曾有此經歷-回流。 父母都離開後，我再回流國外退休🤓
Good point on elderly parents
老人家到了六，七十歲不會願意搬離居住巳久的環境。申請她也要知道父母會否快樂，他們已很難有新的社交圈子和朋友，天天只是一個大屋的空間，接着要忍受婆媳兒孫關係，恐怕不容易，若他們的身体已不能靈活，不能幫你們带孫，相反地他們行動出入不便要例轉由你們再百上加斤。中國的‘’家庭觀念‘’與西方不同，直到你們六，七十歲時會覺悟的。
我最近由澳洲回流香港。好唔想走，要走只得一個原因，香港打工offer高澳洲一倍，想盡快用黃金10年換取最大收益，40歲返澳洲打風流工。
現時的香港已經唔係我成長認知的香港，絕對唔會想留係度。 去澳洲/或者其他主流國家，先知道乜嘢叫做生活，乜嘢先叫做"做返個人"
掛住嘅唔係香港，而係家人朋友。係澳洲住果陣，經常係度諗，如果d家人朋友都移民埋，生活會有多美好，簡直係perfect。
人各有志，每人也有自己的需要，支持你
如果響大陸或者香港有錢邊個想來澳洲挨驢仔，宜家大陸過來澳洲定居的好多都係好後生又唔洗做嘢果d，風流工都唔洗做😅
@@wilsonwu4025 有錢就唔會留香港啦。人哋點過唔關我事，係澳洲都唔係話挨驢仔，只係想快啲退休je
溫哥華好多人都係過黎嘆
my frd also gor offer in china double salary, he went back to china to extract most money in his life and then plan to go back to aus after 65 to extract most benefits in aus after 65
祝你媽咪可以早日來加拿大同你一齊年活❤。
她現在已經在加拿大，只是要繼續申請
@@koarlo
祝她早日申請成功💪💪
完全明白.
今年27歲 原本同女友係上年11月開始plan今年6月去加拿大移民 女友行stream b 我行sowp
點知年頭 最愛既阿媽身體檢查突然發現有三陰性乳癌 未來十年存活率得12% 做哂化療電療都係20% 三陰性係好易再復發 再加上父母年紀大好多 好多日常既野都我幫佢地搞 已經好擔心佢地 發現病後即刻將原本plan同女友註冊完過去 轉左做年尾結埋婚先 再陪阿媽做哂所有化療電療 康復番再算
移民係為左想之後仔女有更好既生活 但同時又好擔心係香港既媽媽
依加真係見步行步 諗起都好心up同心痛
真係兩難, Andy 你真係好孝順, 只能講希望一切安好🙏🙏🙏🙏
真係好乖👍，63歲兩女4孫的婆婆祝您樣樣順利，父母們見到兒女順利一切亦都安心，不竟年幾大都會有各種病痛，兒女順境就係最大良藥，年青人放心好好經營自己想要的人生💪💪
祝您媽媽早日康復❤
阿佬哥，回流的定義是甚麼？香港有幾十萬人有外國護照，點解嘅，問問他們吧，如果那些人攞了護照就話回流，嗰啲人算唔算係移民呢？
都有準則的，簡單d就睇係咪稅務居民，當然未必包括全部人，如再睇就睇佢有無響度住，如已長期離開就即係已回咗流
min pay 温尼伯16蚊，一年38400加币，扣税后33000左右 何来三万五港纸一个月？就算多伦多19蚊一个钟，税后也没有38000，绝对赚比香港少
講緊35000加幣一年
先安老，後安家，衹能兵分兩路😮💨
孫子兵法
我諗住黎到可以hea
點知忙過係香港
又話外國冇OT
而家真係有OT做冇OT錢。
係。。係咪打破你的幻想
我建議ko 佬講下呢度打工文化
請問可否share下如果申請父母過黎，醫療會cover幾多？謝謝
如果成為PR就已經有醫療啦，不過成為到都難
@@koarlo 睇過下，好多証明要做，又要排好耐。
証明都算，抽中先難
@@koarlo 多謝分享。詳細點搞我未睇。要搞掂自己先。一步一步行，一定得。祝你超級快抽中。
香港人走得快好世界呀！
好心痛呀！
有很多香港人被迫害 被拉......
有很多香港人都係被迫離開
心愛的香港這片寶地......
講得啱，真係被迫走的
可否搵集講下 有冇朋友係 心態上 唔適應 同最後點解決 支持繼續拍拍拍
我的舊同學，五兄弟姊妹，事業有成。
父親一早離開，母親91。
他們安排母親入住香港的老人院，自己全部前前後後移去美國。
還對我們幾位同學説，每年會返來一、兩次探訪母親，順便約我們飲茶。
👍👍👍有能力可以做更多，未必個個會咁，有d覺得年年返，不如去下歐洲玩 去下日本玩就唔返，證明你同學好有心
只要拎左護照或者永居身份，起碼留條路先，世上萬難無退路，當有退路做咩都唔使騰，有咩冬瓜豆腐卻係一張機票可以解決一切問題。
其實人生有好多大事都須要自己（或同家人）決定及計劃，總之自己計劃好唸清楚便做。
你的感覺我很認同，幸運地地我的父母都在加拿大
恭喜🙏🙏
記得有一香港導演回流香港，他的原因是覺得自己愈來愈肥，而每天在加拿大生活好舒服，沒什麼夢想，就這樣舒服下去，看看藍天吹吹风。最后，他決定回來。
睇完之後即刻好掛住我媽咪 🥲🥲🥲🥲
Nigel 真係會🙏🙏🙏 加油
認同
好認同，最掛住香港嘅係「自助餐」
香港自助餐唔同level
😂😂😂😂😂
這裏小朋友入大學就己是預備他們外創的倒數，好好珍惜一齊生活的時間
唉。。係。。。好好享受
史丹尼，溫哥華是一個非常好的地方！我哋全家去完旅行，都好掛住溫哥華！我最近都返過香港，感覺係與其要去香港，不如去溫哥華旅行仲好！食物一樣有水準，租架車四圍去又好方便！地方又乾淨過香港好多！起碼公廁已經優勝好多！香港唯一優勝的地方，是可以見到親戚朋友⋯⋯😂
有道理。。。或有d人話不如約響日本見
我見安老院舍好多仔女在外地，間中返嚟見父母，到返外地時，都好唔捨得。
支持講移民教學篇~
又唔係教學嘅😅 只係分享我嘅感覺
Agreed with you. I stayed in USA since 1997. My parent got their green card but they don’t like to live here.
Thank you KO 佬so touching we all miss our parents
😊
Agree
好多人為仔女移民
咁自己父母呢？
我未走，不過如果走，都係放唔低自己父母。
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
你面對嘅問題，我哋呢d新到埗嘅遲早都會遇到。多謝你嘅分享。
努力呀! 佐治
小女子50歲才回流一個星期, 不知道是否太遲呢？🤷♀️
回流哪𥚃，回加還是回港？只是一星期，唔適應隨時都可以走人又怎可以算是回流，如果適應嘅話，莫講話五十歲，七老八十都唔係問題，所以遲唔遲係睇你自己。
最緊要有心
好感性
冇錯.我係加拿大10幾年只有一個原因會令我諗回流
同一樣？
@@koarlo 係.父母. 未回但考慮緊
搵五萬加紙都覺得開心和滿足，加拿大真係好適合像你這種退休（心態）人士！🤣
開心及感恩，但不是滿足喎，無話唔洗進步，移民過來的人，嘢嘢一開波就要搵十幾廿萬不切實際，講就得，做到嘅幾多個？再講 5萬退到休🤣🤣🤣