Interesting idea. The main thing I like is investment Ian pro coaches over pro players. The biggest influence I’ve seen on a rugby club here in Canada was the hiring of a pro coach who came in and set these standards. The 1st team ended up winning games by an average of about 30 points. I’ve also been on teams that have brought in a 9 or a 10. No where near the same impact
@ I personally have traveled through every age grade being a mini coach to now being the head coach of our first team . We have been working on ideas and plans to implement this at our club but had not thought of looking at a professional coach to help . I will certainly get the club to look at this . Many thanks
This is definitely something I would love to implement at the school I am Head of Rugby at. Really challenges your confidence in your systems, terminology, principles etc. looking forward to planning in Jan for next September - great idea
That was the hope when Robbie Deans was drafted. His ideas included asking Super clubs to try players in different positions. I had very high hopes when he took over: then the whispering mill of intellectual dwarves got to work and the Wobblies dropped below 50% W-L (Deans 59%) and stayed there ever since, until Schmidt (55%). Considering what Deans started with (Etihad test, "players with no pride in the jersey") he brought us a long way. A simpler method would be to have a restricted resource maintained by RA where regional, school, club coaches can upload games, training sessions, team talks, etc. in order to get feedback from a revolving crew of selected contributors (a brain's trust).
That’s a solid idea too. The Argentinian idea was often because some of the clubs didn’t have experienced coaches and even the ok coaches would say that they just don’t have the time to prepare. What some clubs saw was that having someone there motivated the coaches to become better. Not just be there because there’s no one else to coach. But ideally it’s about all coaches having access to the opportunity to learn.
2 were RDOs who worked for the UAR and the other was a coach from another club. All Argentinians and all 3 are solid coaches. Because Argentinian rugby is amateur, no one within the club can get paid but they’re allowed to hire outside of the club. Also no players are allowed to be paid either. It’s an amazing system to see, huge dedication by all involved and the passion is incredible.
No. It takes away innovation and creativity in coaching. I don't want to coach and follow someone else's session plan because the skill set needs of my team may differ from another team due to the ratio of beginner, intermediate and experienced player in my team. I should be able to regress and progress the skill set drills accordingly. Secondly, it stifles my development as a coach because it makes me dependent on someone else to plan the whole season for me. The use of common terminology will work well in a system like this but i am a firm believer in teaching players to play different ways and with multiple formations from 1-3-3-1 to the current 1-4-2-1 system used by SA and Ireland. The international game has become so robotic and structured that it almost looks the same from one team to another. You can experiment with different formations and defensive systems in a low-risk environment like junior rugby because you are not going to get fired if you don't get results. This can only happen when there is autonomy in coaching. And, yes, when starting out as a coach, you will need some guidance but if your session plan covers catch and pass, tackle tech, breakdown and carry then you basically got it covered.
Totally agree, if you’re lucky enough to have good coaches at junior level then your club is doing really well. Sadly it’s often not the case. This idea is around coach development and having someone there to help. The structure is about having learning blocks where the kids are getting repetition of the core skills while having plenty of fun games and drills to keep them motivated and enjoying themselves. Also the coach developer would know the staff and can work with the more experienced coaches, also helping improve their coaching.
@@therugbyinstitute I think its a great idea, imho it would help across a lot of sports and junior development. One of the problems I notice is that there is far too early a "selection" with young players and then consequently enormous variation in the quality and type of coaching.
Interesting idea. The main thing I like is investment Ian pro coaches over pro players. The biggest influence I’ve seen on a rugby club here in Canada was the hiring of a pro coach who came in and set these standards. The 1st team ended up winning games by an average of about 30 points. I’ve also been on teams that have brought in a 9 or a 10. No where near the same impact
Yes definitely what a great idea
Thanks for the comment. I know I would've loved this back when I started coaching.
@ I personally have traveled through every age grade being a mini coach to now being the head coach of our first team . We have been working on ideas and plans to implement this at our club but had not thought of looking at a professional coach to help . I will certainly get the club to look at this . Many thanks
This is definitely something I would love to implement at the school I am Head of Rugby at. Really challenges your confidence in your systems, terminology, principles etc. looking forward to planning in Jan for next September - great idea
That was the hope when Robbie Deans was drafted. His ideas included asking Super clubs to try players in different positions. I had very high hopes when he took over: then the whispering mill of intellectual dwarves got to work and the Wobblies dropped below 50% W-L (Deans 59%) and stayed there ever since, until Schmidt (55%). Considering what Deans started with (Etihad test, "players with no pride in the jersey") he brought us a long way. A simpler method would be to have a restricted resource maintained by RA where regional, school, club coaches can upload games, training sessions, team talks, etc. in order to get feedback from a revolving crew of selected contributors (a brain's trust).
That’s a solid idea too. The Argentinian idea was often because some of the clubs didn’t have experienced coaches and even the ok coaches would say that they just don’t have the time to prepare. What some clubs saw was that having someone there motivated the coaches to become better. Not just be there because there’s no one else to coach.
But ideally it’s about all coaches having access to the opportunity to learn.
Who was the coach they hired?
2 were RDOs who worked for the UAR and the other was a coach from another club. All Argentinians and all 3 are solid coaches. Because Argentinian rugby is amateur, no one within the club can get paid but they’re allowed to hire outside of the club. Also no players are allowed to be paid either. It’s an amazing system to see, huge dedication by all involved and the passion is incredible.
No. It takes away innovation and creativity in coaching. I don't want to coach and follow someone else's session plan because the skill set needs of my team may differ from another team due to the ratio of beginner, intermediate and experienced player in my team. I should be able to regress and progress the skill set drills accordingly. Secondly, it stifles my development as a coach because it makes me dependent on someone else to plan the whole season for me. The use of common terminology will work well in a system like this but i am a firm believer in teaching players to play different ways and with multiple formations from 1-3-3-1 to the current 1-4-2-1 system used by SA and Ireland. The international game has become so robotic and structured that it almost looks the same from one team to another. You can experiment with different formations and defensive systems in a low-risk environment like junior rugby because you are not going to get fired if you don't get results. This can only happen when there is autonomy in coaching. And, yes, when starting out as a coach, you will need some guidance but if your session plan covers catch and pass, tackle tech, breakdown and carry then you basically got it covered.
second that. i can think of a dozen of reasons why the "unified" plan doesn't suit me
Totally agree, if you’re lucky enough to have good coaches at junior level then your club is doing really well. Sadly it’s often not the case. This idea is around coach development and having someone there to help.
The structure is about having learning blocks where the kids are getting repetition of the core skills while having plenty of fun games and drills to keep them motivated and enjoying themselves.
Also the coach developer would know the staff and can work with the more experienced coaches, also helping improve their coaching.
@@therugbyinstitute I think its a great idea, imho it would help across a lot of sports and junior development. One of the problems I notice is that there is far too early a "selection" with young players and then consequently enormous variation in the quality and type of coaching.