Slow Pitch vs. Fast Action Rods - Montauk Fluke Fishing with the Queen of Fluke
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- We were privileged to be fishing with our good friend Tony Hong (of Tony Hong Fishing), Joe Sumo Cho and Joe's girlfriend, Hailey Kim, aka the Queen of Fluke.
Multiple 5 pound plus fish were caught on both fast action and slow pitch rods. Which to you prefer? Links to both styles are below (Tsunami Classic H is a fast action and the Tsunami Slimwave is a Slow Pitch).
Joe got pool honors with an 8.5 Montauk monster. I was close behind with a 7.5. Hailey had two really big fish with her biggest at 6.5 pounds.
There's a reason Montauk is known as the Mecca of fishing.
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Sweeney you got company!! Lol
A bad day for me as the seabass were loving me too much, but glad everyone got on some good fish!
Still had a great time among friends! ...I’ll be back!! 😎
Tony Hong Fishing looks like you took my spot!
No doubt Tony. I almost included your one short in here but though that would be cruel :)
Always with *beautiful* videos Congratulations Fisherman.👍
Hahaha love doc. That “John” spoke volumes of exactly how he was feeling and what he was thinking after the rod snapped
I really like the theme song. Came here from John Skinner's channel. Thanks
All Red he brings donuts and subscribers - thanks for coming and hope you enjoy our content!!!
Good times! Thanks for taking us along! You had the Korean Konnection!
Jigging Jerks No, my name is Aaron.
The best fishing intro ever.
yonkers 1 - in case you can’t tell what happened here, Doc was messing around by his console and didn’t see his rod get hit or me start lifting his fish. Thanks for the kind words!!!
Did the same thing to my slim wave snapped and glued a tip on and I gotta say I almost like it better after after it snapped
I just bought a shimano trevala 7' medium heavy jigging rod with an avet sxj 5.3 mc reel and I love it.
Spinzy715 I’m partial to those Avets!
Doc has mate skills... LoL. Good day for catching....🐟🐟🐟
Wow need to show my girlfriend that girls can be just as good fishing as guys if not better. Way to go Haley!!! Joe that girl is a keeper! Any girl that loves to fish and is cute is a keeper. Nice video John. Meanwhile out here in Jersey off the surf 4 shorts with one borderline keeper using a pen spinfisher 3500 and penn battalion 7ft medium heavy spinning rod. Keep the videos coming guys. I need to start recording my videos like you guys.
Brendan Woerner - you definitely need to get the gf fishing and also recording. Can’t tell you how awesome it is to relive these trips!
I wasn't even a minute into the the video and already placed a like!! Those flukes tho!! Keep up with the collaborations!!💯
dseafishing x3 thank you!!!
Jigging Jerks your welcome man! I think it would be awesome if you guys start charters with subscribers, I would book no problem!!
dseafishing x3 wish we could - absolutely NOT licensed to do that
dseafishing x3 wish we could - absolutely NOT licensed to do that
dseafishing x3 wish we could - absolutely NOT licensed to do that
Always with *beautiful* videos Congratulations Fisherman.👍
"Swing it"
"you're up next"
"Swing it"
That is gold
Interesting great video.. Thanks Tony Hong
Naro aonk thank you - I’m Tony’s Greek-Korean cousin John, but appreciate the kind words in the video
Jigging Jerks welcome guys fantastic good video words can't express. Very interesting ..kept it up 👌💪
this year i'm going to try gulp with bucktails, for years i used squid and sea robins for my bait of choice sometimes live kilies on my boat a 2022 Barracuda named hooked2
Where are you fishing out of?
Awesome video 👍
I like slow pitch for bottom fish, seabass , fluke, and porgy. But for everything else I use fast action or moderate fast
Awesome trip , I would love to go on this boat thks
Doc getting loud because hes a doctor 😂😂. Awesome. Im thinking about buying a 8ft slim wave H for my slammer 3 3500.
Correction: he’s a dentist.
Very informative video. You guys are great fluke fishermen. I'm still struggling this summer with fluke. I can out-fish almost anybody for big blackfish, but fluke haven't been friendly to me lately. Only one keeper my last trip out. I think I just need to find better spots, because I believe my technique is correct.
Engineer - we are great fisherman cause the fish are there lol - we would be nothing if we were fishing a barren area. Chin up sir - tog season will be here before you know it (and by the way, we love togging - will have a ton of videos up in the Fall)
Jigging Jerks you guys work hard to find the fish, and you're damn good at it. I spent $100 in gas last weekend trying to find some fluke all over the ocean, bouncing from wreck to wreck, and I ended up with one keeper fluke and a ton of sea bass lol. I comment on almost all of your videos, and one of these days I'd like to give you a good report for once! I look forward to your tog videos! Love this channel.
Engineer - yeah I hear you and thank you for the kind words - it can be tough to find them. I’m sure you’re doing everything right but sometimes the fish aren’t there. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: we are blessed being based in Eastern LI. We have the Peconic Bay, Gardiners Bay, the Long Island Sound And Montauk all within 30 miles and all are productive areas. Thank you for your loyalty too. We appreciate and love the comments!
As I'm going through your archives & watching your videos I'm impressed by their quality Johnny G... Your editing from hours of video, your narration and your commentary are all on point... Your voice is always very calm & soothing... How many times in your life have you been told that you have a face for radio?... LOL... Kidding about the radio face John but not about your video skills...
Joseph Regina - you know, I just saw this!!! Happy Thanksgiving Joe and I’ve been told that too many times :)
Look how flat it was out there! Can't beat that! CartWright has some nice fluke and sea biscuits
Wow, John!! What a beauty!!!!!
Awesome John, What depth were you guys fishing also Il have never caught a monkfish yet. Something else to shoot for this year
Brett Aston - a couple of different spots in the ocean - anywhere from 72 to 85 feet. Key is light line (I use 10 pound braid). This trip was a LOT of fun
Two broken rods one trip. You’re rough ! Love my silver bullet multiple fish over 6lbs in it to 9. Great video
Dustin DeSimone in my defense - it was only one rod. Joe’s rod didn’t break on that last big fish, his leader broke. And Doc’s rod was a freak thing. Tip got caught on reel in overhead rocket launcher
Dustin DeSimone and thanks for the kind words on video!
Jigging Jerks not a problem at all! Probably a shot in the dark but if you guys EVER need another body to fish. I’d be more than happy to come fish with you guys. I’d greatly appreciate it
What rod would you recommend for fast jigging with 3oz bucktail or jigheads? Im using a baitcaster. Also great video and I really enjoy and learn alot from your videos John Thanks for it all!
Easy - Dark Matter Skinner fluke rod or a Jigging World Nexus XH 7’. Thank you for the kind words!
Lol the jigging jerks song gets stuck in my head once in awhile too lol great videos guys learned plenty from you guys too!
Hahahaha
LOL I've got a giant empty pretzel rod jar filled with gulp and juice just like you do there. That's funny
If you don't mind me asking..... that black reel on your Tsunami Slimwave rod. Do you have any specs on it?
Michael Peterson - it’s an incredibly strong reel. If only it had a flip switch :)
Link to it is here: tackleworld.com/jigging-world-cronos-star-drag-reel/
@@jiggingjerks that's a nice light reel. Think the only discouragement I have on it though is the line capacity. My goal was to hook it up onto a Penn Warfare rod for blackfish, striper, or bluefish with either 25 or 30lb line
Michael Peterson more than enough line for that I think! Call Mike Kim at Tackle World and he can give you reel life specs on it - it’s a powerful, smooth little reel
200 yards of 20 pound braid is 600 feet - I think that’s way more than enough for the species you mentioned
Appreciate the input guys thank you!
Your videos are always great! Always get excited when your videos are uploaded. What rod are you using at 8:32? is it a custom rod?
Paul Ahn Crafty One MH Custom - 7’6”. Beautiful rod and grips but a bit on the heavy side
Nice video which action do you prefer for fluke? And why do you call the slimwave a noodle rod?
I prefer fast pitch. I’m convinced it catches more fluke but I also think the really big girls are lazy and will hit a slow pitch presentation more readily than a fast jig. We call it the noodle rod because it has so much give in the upper third of the rod, like a wet noodle. Thanks for watching!
Missed my friends!!! Spent the day on Cedar Beach yesterday. :-)
Georgeanne Panos nice! Sweeney was VERY worried when you didn’t post yesterday - he almost got the authorities involved :)
Hope you had a great time at the beach!
You lie like a cheap watch, John lol
It was nice but hot. How I got so red while under an umbrella I'll never know. My son had a blast. This kid has no fear or the water and he doesn't know how to swim....Neither do I so I was like a hawk at the shoreline. Nicholas, come this way, stay here, come here.....Ugh, everyone heard my big mouth! lol I wanted to put his life jacket on and tether him to the beach chair.....I got the eye roll when I mentioned that ! :-)
Yesterday was flat-calm, great day to be on the boat fishing but.......we schlepped out to LI...
Sick boat, nice day, good fishing
Another great video! Wish I wasn’t landlocked in PA :-)
CrabberPA subscriber contest coming soon - you never know you may find yourself fishing Montauk!
Awesome love all of your vids.
Great video sirs! Really informative session.
If I may ask, how much would it cost on an annual basis to own a boat of that quality?
Ok Shin I’ll let Doc answer since I have no idea (if he wants to answer). I can tell you Sweeney and I own a 25 Cobia Center Console and between dockage and gas and maintenance (which we do ourselves) I’d say the number is about $7,500 to $10k per year putting about 100 hours on the boat
Thank you so much for the reply!
Johnnie boy hope to go fishing with you soon got try to get time off work first hopefully before this season is over 🤞fingers crossed 🎣 tight lines.
juan rodriguez look forward to it!!!
Great video John. Just missing one thing. :-)
John Sweeney hahahahaha - that’s right......neglected to mention one Jerk was missing
:-)
Next time give doc a little warning before you drop the net on the deck and break his rod. If I was doc I’d throw you off the boat! Haha
Fatty Mcfatty hhahaha - so I really thought I dropped the net hard but what wound up happening is Doc’s tip got stuck on one of the reels in the overhead rod holders. Unfortunate but things break - at least he was able to fix on the fly!
Nice!
I bought a tusnami slow pitch rod and immeditley returned it, with a 2oz bucktail it was bent over like a noodle, I didnt like how it bends so easily
Long Island Fishing - if your are intent on bouncing bucktails ala Skinner, then no, not the rod for you.
Jigging Jerks ya I went with the classic series and never looked back, I’m sure the slow pitch is good for bass jigging and blackfish etc
Long Island Fishing yeah - we have a nice striper video on our site using the slow pitch - a lot of fun!
Probably the only Calais in the world put to fluking duty!
Cooking and Fishing presume it’s a fresh water reel? I knew nothing about it :)
lol it was Shimano's JDM flagship freshwater reel about a decade ago. Glad to see it still going strong, with a power handle in the ocean nonetheless! I know JS loves his accurist, but man, Shimano/Daiwa is where it's at. Quantum must've been scratching their heads at the accurist sales in the northeast after JS started releasing his videos lmao
Great content as always, very informative. Doc, please explain your hairstyle. Business in the front, party in the back.
M Clark he’s Billy Ray Docus. You may remember his big hit, “Don’t Break My Rod, My Noodly, Noodly Rod.”
M Clark Lol!
GOOD JOB GUYS
Doc, how about a warranty on that rod ?
GEORGE K I added a tip to it and I think it will be just as good as it was before and maybe better!
I'm a doctor dammit need I say more love it
If you only knew how many times he has used that line on us.
When fishing the slow pitch, do you let the jig actually hit the bottom in between jigging motions?
Jackson Kobylarcz I do but you can be just off the bottom as well
I use a high low rig with just 2 pieces of gulp do you think I would do better with a bucktail and a gulp on top ? Btw I'm a kayak
SaysClanHD Doc uses that rig a lot
SaysClanHD I use Hi-Lo's almost all the time and it's worked for me this year so far.
What lb braid do you use?
Letdatbassknock - my fluke poles all have 10 pound braid. The rod I borrowed from Joe Sumo had 15 pound braid.
how do you determine which is a slow pitch from a fast pitch rod?
adam cunningham the action of the jig when jigging. Soft pitch will not impart the same action on the type of rapid jigging we do since the rod top is more “noodly.”
@@jiggingjerks is there a way to figure out which is which when looking to purchase a new rod?
adam cunningham yes - typically the action rating and stifffness of the rod. Jigging World now makes a Nexus 7 foot Heavy Fast rod that is perfect for fast jigging.
@@jiggingjerks thanks for the reply i had stopped fishing after an ugly divorce ad as luck would have it i wound up living next to another divorcee who also liked fishing i started on the party boat off crossbay but watching those on the boat , everyone eemed to do the slow pitching although i didnt know what the specs were on the rental rods, so ia assuming since i am considering a treat to myself a nrew rod , i am considering the st.croix mojo jig , so assuming that the fast tip is sfter tham than the Moderate fast then that would equal a slow pitch rod?
adam cunningham mojo makes a fine fast rod. I would definitely recommend the fast over the slow. Sorry about the divorce but hopefully the fishing will help you forget...
Silver bullet or slimwave?
That was a sliver bullet
Jigging Jerks i mean which do u prefer out of slow pitch😂
Rob Drumm hahaha - neither actually. Jigging World Nexus 7’ H with 4 inches chopped or the 7’ XH
What Marina is that?
arode2981 Strongs Marina in Mattituck on the Peconic Bay side. Doc usually keeps his boat at their location on the Sound
What spot where u guys at the beginning of the video where u guys first hooked up?
xNickz I believe we were a bit south of Frisbees
Jigging Jerks ok cause I fish in Montauk as well and when we go to Cartwright and frisbees we only got a couple of keeper fluke but u guys seem like u were getting 1 after another
Are you using bait or gulp? Look for a couple of Montauk trips from this week to be published soon (one today).
Can I use a st croix inshore MH power fast action for fishing 1/2 - 1 ounce bucktails for flounder/fluke
Jack B 100 percent yes.
Sucks about Doc's rod. Looks like the butt end was elevated off the deck on the back side of the helm station/seat. Might be covered under warranty. I'm a fan of your videos and team members/friends and please take this constructively, the bickering takes away from enjoying the video and from watching the fishing. You sound like me and my best buddy, who also happens to be named John. We bicker like sibblings and it can wear on the patience of others. How about teaching Haley to net a fish? She's obviously got game and skills with the rod and reel; teach her the whole game! Ok, enough criticism outa my pie hole. Please keep the videos coming. I look forward to them daily! On the days I can't get out on my boat in Cape May or my skiff in Avalon, your videos really fill the void and it's like I'm right there with you all. Bravo on another killer day on the water!
B Stav - hey John - first off great name and thank you for the honest constructive criticism - and I mean that - it was well meant and intelligently written :)
However, we don’t want to be “fake” - this is how we are on the boat and the day we start acting nice to each other will signal the day we jumped the shark (Happy Days reference) :)
Now, having said that, perhaps I can edit some of that out so you guys don’t have to be subjected to what Skinner sees each time he fished with us :)
Jigging Jerks you’re a class act!! I now find myself asking, “What would Skinner do?” when I’m fishing!! Hahaaa!!
B Stav I put a new tip on the broken rod and I think it perform even better now!
Doc, that's awesome!!! What would Skinner do???? He'd cut that b#### and put a new tip on it!! Hahahaha!! Glad to hear it worked out!!
I'd love it if you posted your catches and gear used on our Facebook and IG accounts. Slow Pitch Jigging North America and @spjnamerica for IG. Nice work on the video!!
Angry Patriot so we mostly use fast action rods - this trip was definitely the exception to the rule...
What reel is the silver reel being used in the beginning of the video
Will Kins hopefully Joe or Hailey see this and comment. It was their set up and they let me try it out - did not pay attention to the reel unfortunately.
Do you remember the brand
Hi there!
Here’s some info :)
Rod : JiggingWorld Silver Bullet 150
Reel: Shimano Calais 200ASV
Which of the two rods did you prefer??
Sid_1026 Fast pitch, but I jig ala Skinner, rapid vertical jigging.
Jigging Jerks cool appreciate the help
Sid_1026 yeah, if you do slow, deliberate jigs, slow pitch will work just fine
Jigging Jerks awesome thanks you..yea just getting into saltwater fishing so I follow your videos skinner and ken westerfeld if I spelled it correctly for guidance. Thank you for replying appreciate it
You broke Joe Sumo’s rod at the end with the way you threw that fish out of the net
ROK2369 I didn’t. Don’t get me wrong, it was reckless and I’ve stopped doing that. But all that broke was his line.
That slimwave cant be all that bad if you caught a 27” 7lb plus fish
McLovin6912 it’s a fine rod but not conducive to fast, Skinner style jigging. If you go slow and long on the jig, it works great!
Jigging Jerks gotcha
McLovin6912 yeah, I don’t always do a good job explaining this but if you are looking to a rapid vertical jig, the soft tip on these rods does nothing to the bucktail, it actually absorbs all the action. If you do long swooping jigging motions, you’re fine
It’s all good, I knew what you meant lol
This isn't slow pitch. It's just regular jigging.
No more netting for you 2 rods what the f
Tom Kelsh so we actually broke the Doc one down after I published this vid. He actually broke the rod, not me. And with Joe’s, it was just his line but that was a dick move on my part for sure :)
Please give a correct action to slow pitch rods. You are not using it right.
Using correct slow pitch jigs, not bucktail... --- JW-SBC100 with Daiwa Saltiga SK Slow Pitch Jigs SA-SK60G05 and SA-SK85G05.
And, use mechanical break more often if you decide to use slow pitch jigs.
I saw John Skinner tried slow pitch action but he failed so bad.... Probably, he didn't use mechanical break much.
Hope to see you guys at Long Island Sound! Tight lines!
Thanks for the feedback. Admittedly we are not slow pitch experts - what do you mean by "mechanical break?"
mechanical brake, sorry typed wrong.
I meant "tension spool knob"
You need to adjust it more often.
Finding the correct fall speed is key to slow pitch jigging.
You need to jig like you are dying fish...
Good luck!
mylovebugcat ... I totally understand your way of thinking in regards to the world of true jigging, fast or slow, but we are not going for yellow tail and such, we’re fluking, practically bottom bouncing. Slow pitch rods are being used but have to understand it’s fluke. Just giving a slow presentation that’s all.
Offshore guys are probably wincing since “slow pitch” used here is way different than what they know is true.
Does anyone know what power rod I should use for 1/2 - 1 bucktail fishing for flounder? Also what reel do you guys recommend for flounder?
Skinner your netting really sucks putting the net in the fishes face. Please watch captain napping fluke fishing video he will teach you how to net
Sorry nappi