Shimano Ocea Conquest HG and PG
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I have been looking at these reels for months, now I finally have them. These reels, are some of the best you can get for super light jigging, both for fast and slow jigging. The PG is great for both fast jigging and shallow water slow jigging. The HG is excellent for Slow Jigging tai rubber applications.
I plan to use these reels in both the shallow waters of the gulf and the deeper east coast of the UAE.
After using the Calcutta Conquest for a long time, and the Ocea Calcutta as my main reels for casting and slow jigging respectively, I decided to grab these two because I have been very happy of the performance of those two first reels.
The main difference between both reels is the rate of retrieve each of them have. I explain why I got both reels, and the importance of the rate of retrieve, what they are used for and why it is useful to use the right one for the application. I also talk about the Calcutta Conquest and the Ocea Calcutta, also two very good reels.
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Thank you for this video. What is the ratio you would recommend for Tai Rubber? I am going to try out a couple of sliders this autumn, I have a Maxel Transformer 60b rod and Maxel Hybrid 20 and Shimano Ocea Conquest 300 hg.reels
It depends on a couple of things. A. the tai rubber you are using B. the depth. Tai rubber tails are mostly where the action comes from, then the head shape. There are certain types that have heads that move, while others the heads just shake side to side. I found the ones with head movements require a faster reel, while for those that dont move (and just rely on the tail) are ok with slower speeds (like a PG). The deeper you go, the faster the reel, because of the stretch of the line. Don't look at the ratio, look at the length the reel retrieves per turn. you can find a 4:1 that retrieves faster than reels that are 6:1.
Whichever reel you choose, try to see which speed gives your tai rubber the best action, then remember that speed, more than likely, it will be the speed that the fish will respond to.
@@TheFishingKit thank you for your detailed reply
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Great video! What is the line capacity on the HG with the power handle? I want to be able to cast 6 ounces at least 50 meters.
They arent casting reels
Hi , have you tried casting these OCs ? If you , what is the it compared to the CQs , is it the same given they have same controls ..etc ?.. I am intending to buy OC for mixed use Jigging and casting driven by the fact I see it’s better package than the CQs , is that correct ? What do you advise , one more question , is the level line in the OCs synced like the CQs i mean @ free spool ?
The Ocea Conquests are made for jigging, not casting, so you can lob them, but not really cast - the Calcutta conquests are better for that, external cast controls are there to adjust to the weight of the lure you cast, the Ocea Conquests have narrower spools than the Calcutta Conquest. The level winds are not synched.
Ok , thanks
Great video! What do you think about the ocea conquest limited? Idk what is different with the new limited
the conquest limited has a fall lever.
@@TheFishingKit Do you think its worth it or would you just recommend the conquest for slow jigging?
@@th3smurf692 I only use conquests for shallow water, you will need OJs for deeper water. Say, above 50m, I would use OJs.
@@TheFishingKit I appreciate your help. But could you tell me why the OJ is better for deeper water? My problem is that you have to use your thumb to put the line on the spool on the OJ. I have tried it, but it doesnt work for me, especially when you hook a big one I cant concentrate on the line. I mostly fish in 60m to 110m. Thanks for the help
Its very hard to find valuable information on slow jigging in english unfortunately
Does the ocea conquest 200 hg have a synchronized levelwind or a disengaging levelwind ? Does the level wind moves when line coming out of the reel ( against drag or in freespool ) . I am asking because i ordered and just received a ocea conquest 200 hg and noticed my levelwind only moves when reeling in line . When line coming off the reel in freespool or against drag , the levelwind does not move .
It does not have a synchronized levelwind. The 200 and below models have a narrow spool, you don't really need them to synch for narrow spools.
@@TheFishingKit thanks for your reply , sir
The 2022 version does now
@@smetly thanks Garrett. Good info.
Excellent topic.
Jigging in shallow waters like dubai sometimes can be quite challanging I terms of technical aspects especially in summer period when the bites are more slim.and super light jigging is becoming more popular as a marketing scheme by the Japanese companies, still not much thorough guides for shallow water jigging compared to slow jigging I must say.
Being a longtime Baitcaster I adore Calcutta lineup , used the 201xg very nice reel.
It’s like to ask what would you choose for an ultralight setup ( 0.8pe ) for dubai in between 2021 Calcutta conquest 201hg vs 2023 ocea conquest 201hg both of them around 78cm retrieve ratio.
Or should I go for slower 70cm retrieve options instead? I believe 70cm would be more effective in dubai 10-20m depth but many of my friends suggest higher ratio. What do you think ?
PG is well suited for depths of up to 50/60m. Not HG...you actually see a huge difference with this. With the PG in these depths, you can do both fast and slow jigging with the same reel. Don't take my word for this - look for someone with a PG reel then try it out and see for yourself before investing in a Ocea Conq.
@@TheFishingKit Hey Fish, sorry to ask about this old comment but the Ocea Calcutta 300PG has only 65 cm retrieve compared to HG with 85 CM. I thought for slow pitch jigging at least 80 cm are needed? Was planning to use it with a JAM ROD 1.5 SPJ rod, but now just confused. Am i mixing up slow jigging and slow pitch jigging and is SPJ even possible in such shallow waters (
@@thotho7869 for very shallow water, you want a PG. 50m and below, PG works well, although a 300 would be quite big for my liking.
@@TheFishingKit Thanks kit, i had the 300pg already and just bought a jam rod 1.5 (max 230 g). Planning to use that for slow pitch jigging in the gulf of thailand with around 100g jigs where we don't have any real depth... i'll give it a try. Thanks again, many of us would screwed without your content as all the japanese/american content is for deeper waters
@@thotho7869 The Gulf is quite shallow so we have different sets to fish it - I just happen to be the one to share things, so I'm happy it's helping other people out. I have a breakdown of the gear in the channel if you search for it.
I'm heading to Thailand this month or next month - fishing in freshwater.
Hi, Oceas are built for jigging indeed, but how do they perform in casting anyway please? What about 200 size and 20g + lures....?
Wouldnt use them for casting but i have casted them, and i do ok coz i have a very educated thumb...better use what the reels are made for to avoid frustrations
@@TheFishingKit Thank you! I had to know it so much. If the regular Calc.Conq. 200 had AR backup pawl, I'd buy it immediately. I need a sturdy medium (200 or rather "250" sized reel) with decent braid cappacity for lighter lures, but big fish.... But now It seems I have to stay with my Revo4Inshore and Revo Beast... 41.... Tight lines 👍
@@agnosticfreedom9926 the revos are very good reels, but so is a calcutta conquest. they do different jobs. if you want something similar to you revos, check out the tranx reels. they do the same jobs pretty much.
@@TheFishingKit I already have Tranx 301hg (3 pcs), great reels. But for some "lighter rods" it is an overkill...
there's the tranx 200
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@thefishingkit Really confused about the casting vs jigging in the ocea conquest. All the specs I’ve read call the 201hg as casting reel, not a jigging reel. Am I missing something here?
Ocea Conquest are light jigging reels. Calcutta Conquests are their casting counterparts. In Shimano's verbiage, they do not classify these reels as jigging reels because they classify things differently in their organization...but in use it's a different story. If you want to verify this, its as simple as looking for videos of any Japanese Shimano pro staff using these reels as casting reels - if you find one, show me - I'd like to see it.
I just picked up the new 300 PG and 300 XG for 22 would not have considered them until I saw this video. Plan on using the PG for my Tia Rubber setup. Do you Tai Rubber fish?
I have used Tai rubber for quite some time, Tai Rubber and Inchiku jigs. Mostly for spangled emperor and groupers.
I’m trying to figure out what color lures and which lures work best for my fishery here in South Florida. I have caught vermillion snapper in 200ft with glow colors, any tips on colors for grouper? Also it’s seems the Daiwa lures work a little better than the Shimano lures
@@smetly I have used lures from yo zuri and storm...the storm one works really well for me - But it is a JDM product and sold mainly there and asia. I use a lot of red and orange. works well for me.
Thanks I’ll lookup the storm brand
@@smetly Storm Docan - don't know if those are still made though. They are the only ones that swim and don't rely on the tail for action.
Does the ocea conquest have the same smooth retrive like the calcutta vonquest?
The ocea Conquest is the higher model, so when it comes to shimano reels with level winds in that particular segment - there is no better reel.
Can you buy the bigger double paddle handle separately?
yes you can, if you google it, you can find a lot of them from other brands and you can also order them from shimano if you like.
Hi I am from Maldives, Am looking to buy a slow jigging reel to use with a max 180g rod. Can u suggest me a good reel. Was checking Grappler Bb 150hg ( it is affordable 😁), ocea conquest ltd 200 hg and ocea jigger f custom 1000 hg. Am ready to go for conqst or f custom but I am thinking why to spend so much if I can get same result in grapler bb?. Pls help 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
ocea jigger 1000 or 1500. the silver one not the F custom. dont buy the grappler.
@@TheFishingKit thanks bro, but may I know y not f coustm or oc conquest
all the others are weak@@sumeshcnair6949
When the fishing is tough you are in the wrong location at the wrong time and no reel or lure is going to change it. But quality reels improve the experience of fishing and decreases frustration and risk of malfunction and loss
Ask a professional bass fisherman if they use the same speed reels or short rods for all their applications, then let's talk.
@@TheFishingKit In a small body of water the fish aren't leaving the pond, but even then in tough conditions or if you're fishing the part of the pond where the fish aren't, no reel or lure is going produce fish. There are techniques which can incrementally increase your odds of success if the fish are there, but you have to be where the fish are. But this is a saltwater reel though, and for saltwater fishing 95% of fishing is about finding the fish and being able to get the lures in front of them. Any real fisherman knows that.
@@Eric-zs6rd yes, if you aren't finding the fish then you can't catch - that's not the topic of the video though. Why would you fish for marlin in a lake anyway? What I am talking about is when you are in the right spot already and the fish are not biting. Slow jigging was invented to give you bites even when fish are not active. Fishing has a lot to do with speed - speed = your reel's rate or retrieve. Rods have different actions - you can't use a casting rod for jigging and expect to be effective. Having the right gear matters. No matter how you look at it. Professional Bass fishermen, professional saltwater fishermen don't just carry ONE type of gear. They carry an assortment to give them the best chance to catch good fish. The video isn't about finding fish, it's about having the right gear to give you the best chance possible. If you believe you can catch more fish than the guy with the right skill set and the correct gear, then stick to that - your formula for fishing works for you, and congrats. As for the rest of us, it's a different story.
Hi, may I know the PG handle of size? I would like to change my current HG handle to double knot for pond usage
you mean the hole or length of the PG handle?
@@TheFishingKit the hole
@@TheFishingKit is 7X4 or 8X5? And the length is how many mm? Thanks a lot
@@DoubleC0622 7x4
can i put calcutta conquest 200 spool on ocea conqest 200 ?
no, they are different reels
Do you know if the 201 PG can can good with the narrow spool ?
Cast good *
I mostly lob more than I full no cast these. They are not designed for casting...but they do have the cast control system of the"normal" conquest. @@eenndsskekeke6547
Good video. Background music very annoying.
Sorry for that. I'll check the volume of the background music and adjust it for next video.
@@TheFishingKit maybe annoying was a strong word. I think people like me who are really into reel reviews would rather no music and just hear the reviewer talk. Nice review though!
@@ecksdog still a valid point though. :)
So repetative in contents ... boring
time to make a video that's not repetitive and boring and show all of us.