Gabriel's real name is Gabi Grassette and his family owned a French fry truck. He became a famous designer thanks to Audrey Bourgeois, who he befriended along with André. When he became a famous designer, he changed his name to Gabriel Agreste. Also, that document (along with most of the written words in documents) has nonsense words, so don't try to read them.
Lila is becoming more dangerous. This is starting to confirm the theory that she will become the Hawkmoth of the future. Poor Nooroo can’t catch a break.
i mean wasn't it already confirmed that ladybug and chat were going to be fighting another villan not hawkmoth/monarch after the time hopping villan episode way back when with time tagger,..... just not who the new villan was
@@E_btsot798 no Timetagger says he was created by the Hawkmoth of the future. Gabriel assumed that it was his future self. Then the villain reveals that Hawkmoth did create him, just not Gabriel. So someone else becomes Hawkmoth. Many theorized it would be Lila. Other theory choices were Chloe, Felix, and Adrian (even though that made me least sense)
@@renji90998 that’s why I said at the end that the only thing we knew was that another villain takes over for hawk moth/monarch we just didn’t know who but with this season we kinda have a better guess who does take over for hawk moth
Even though it makes her mysterious & interesting to know her motivations. I do wish we know more of her than just being used as a plot devise at times
@@sirinsx8383 yep & I’ve read better fanfictions and fan comics that people do to learn about her. Especially one fan clinic where Marinette does befriend Lila and help her to become better & be on the good side. I can’t wait for the adult novels of Miraculous next year since it’ll be aimed towards young adults and adults
Mrs. Bustier is starting to realize that she’s not as good a teacher she think she is. Yes, she does care for her students, but does have bit of a naïve viewpoint. Can’t help someone if they genuinely don’t want to be helped. Remember back in season one of Origins and Kim was making fun of Ivan? She immediately blamed Ivan without even fully understanding the situation. I’m not sure how old she is but she probably is still a pretty young teacher, and is still learning herself. Also pretty much all the of the school faculty bend the knee at Chloe because her father can easily have them fired. I can understand her wanting to have faith in Chloe, but she’s definitely starting to wise up. Keeping a better eye on her.
It doesn't help that the culture of kindness Miss Bustier has created in her homeroom takes for granted that people will return prosocial behavior with like. It's a situation ripe for exploitation by sociopaths like Chloe and Lila.
I hadn't realized it until later, but the deaf woman is the third mom Lila has had. There was another woman who saw her off when she was getting on the train.
Something I find kind of interesting about Cat Noir in this episode is that they make him a little more capable than they sometimes have lately. He does get captured, but I legitimately think it was an intntional ploy to coax Hoaxer (lol, sounds funny out loud) out of the ring, seeing as he rather easily escapes on his own later on
5:10 Isn't it frustrating how the show didn't have Marinette spell out the truth of the Lila situation to Alya at any point after letting Alya in on her secret? Seriously, Alya ought to know the full story from Marinette's perspective by now. Everything that Marinette kept quiet about when it happened because it was too close to her secret. Also, it ought to raise some red flags for Alya that Lila was at one point bragging about being Ladybug's best friend. Ask Marinette about that!
@@mrsiraldo2544 I mean I know she has different identities, but that doesn’t really explain why she has multiple parents??? Is she a foster child??? Is she replacing someone else’s child???
Prepare yourself, Zamber, the next episodes will leave you at the edge of madness. Forget everything you think it is going to happen, because the twists will really twist your mind in ways you never thought it was possible. If you think Lila is bad now... you just wait. So far, we have been seeing her better side. It's not just the characters that have been deceived, it was also all the Miraculers.
16:19 OMG I love the continuity of this show because this is not the first time we’ve seen this contract or heard about this deal we first physically saw the contract all the way back in season 3 in the episode “Animestro” when the were attended the movie Premiere I always thought it was a weird detail till I saw this episode. Then in Stormy Weather 2 this contract is also mentioned by Gabriel who says “To the attention of Mrs. Tsurugi. Things may not be going exactly the way we planned but change can be a good thing. I'm confident it’ll only strengthen our agreement in the end” so yeah they’ve been planing this
Lila has three mothers (at least). The mother she was talking to thinks she is in Africa. And there's a very good reason why she didn't want to have a video chat with her (besides the fact she is in fact in Paris). Also, if you pay attention, that room where Lila is appears in "Perfection", so she went to live there at least around that episode. Also, she wasn't suppose to get just those secrets Nathalie sent her. She would also get the information about the heroes whose identities are known to Gabriel and Nathalie. However, they cut that, since that would give her too much information and also perhaps Nathalie didn't send them because technically those are not Gabriel's secrets, .
@@domonicsantalucia9002 Don't forget that, just because Lila getting the identity of the holders Gabriel and Nathalie knew about is in the original script, it doesn't mean it is canon. Many things are in the original scripts but didn't make it to the series. Some details are changed or cut, being either for animation purposes or any other reason. For example, in "Timetagger", the identity of future Hawk Moth would be pretty much confirmed because of a line the villain said. Also, both Scarabella and Mister Bug would be able to also make Magical Charms. "Collusion" and "Revolution" are also great examples. Unless season 6 shows that or the producers confirm it, we have to assume Lila didn't get to know the identities.
Plan for Lila it's the trick monarch think that she's mad at Marinette but realistically he's going after monarch she pretend to do it and get the secrets so genius
Nice ASL. I studied it for years to be an interpreter. My teacher said my eyesight was too poor, and it wouldn't be easy. I still use ASL, but only to myself. Like to count. I'm always impressed when animated shows accurately show sign language.
If you read sign language and couldn’t understand what the mom was signing, it’s because that is French Sign Language, they had a professional signer help them for the show.
16:07 Unfortunately I'm pretty sure that document is just Lorem Ipsum (basically random latin words thrown together, websites often use it for sample text) In fact the show rarely ever uses real French writing in later seasons, since none of the animation is actually produced in France.
I have a prediction I feel like if Lila becomes season 6 villain, she's gonna have this TRAGIC backstory about her being an infant and has to lie to everyone to fend for herself and why she has to lie all the time
Okay, Revelation time. Gabriel Agreste was given a drop of lore in this episode.. That being the pictures of him with Emilie and Natalie, Andrei and Audrey, and with Harry the Clown. There's something that changed from the time the pictures were taken and the current era. Gabriel's personality. Gabriel seems to have lost his young personality. I mean, this is normal since he's maturing and stuff. But we do know now that he used to be more fun-going and was a *prankster* based on the pictures, especially with Harry the Clown. This detail is said to be VERY important in S6. Folks, get ready for Prankster Gabi in S6.
Hoaxers accusations, though ridiculous, correlates to the struggles of the internet and how a lot of people will believe even the most absurd things without questioning if it’s right or wrong, acting on them regardless of the people they hurt. Lila has been a very interesting character, she is not above lying to her "moms" and seeks a life where all eyes can fall onto her, a life where she can have all the attention she wants and be the star she believes she has a right to be, but the moment someone gets in the way of her accomplishing what she wants, she will fixate on taking them down. Mr. Bustier is not a bad teacher, she tries to work things out with her words and tries to help her students as best she can, but even she is realizing her ways are not as full proof as she had hoped when dealing with students like Chloe. Regardless, she can’t help but try to find another way to help Chloe realize the error of her ways through the help of others like Lila, who she believes is really a good person Chloe will listen to. As much as It’s clear to us that Lila is not who she says, Lila has done to good a job at convincing everyone she is to good a person to question.
At this i'm not even annoyed by Lila for lying so much,but i'm annoyed that everybody else is so STUPID to believe her! 6:06-Considering how Lila can convince everyone by acting as a kind girl,to the point where even the teacher just shuts down her brain to believe her,Chloe probably has a point!
Yeah, that's my main gripe with the storytelling around Lila too. There are some instances where Lila genuinely has great manipulation skill, and then there are many times where characters are actively dumbed down or worse, turn into actually bad characters to accommodate the idea that Lila is a brilliant manipulator. (As a minor example, the fact that Lila's "mom" on the phone in this episode wasn't immediately horrified at the idea of her child approaching a baby rhinoceros without training makes her a terrible mom. There are more situations with characters we actually know, but the instances I'm thinking of that relate to Lila haven't shown up yet.)
Take your time on watching these! (Confrontation and Collusion are now out in English!) all the remaining episodes comes out in English every Saturday until the last episode on September 2nd.
It's been said that Lila Rossi is not her real name, she's been shown with short hair and called "Cherese" In her first appearance she said her grandmother was a fox superhero, I think that maybe the one true thing she said about her background.
The Tomoe's and Gabriel's paper was in lorem ipsum (just random words in latin) And the four people from the photo were Gabriel, Emilie, Audrey and Andre. Now we know that Gabriel's actual name was Gabi Grassette, he wasn't rich but he had a fry shop. We learnt in Season 2 episode "Style Queen" that it was Audrey the one who helped Gabriel become famous and rich. Before that, he, Emilie and Andre used to make films without having money (Gabriel and Andre weren't rich and Emilie left her home and her heritage) and Gabriel made a design for Harry Clown (as we saw in "Psycomedian")
So this ep not only shows us that Lila is a liar, but also a con artist! With three different moms, Gabe’s real name is actually Gabi Grassette and that he was punk (Psychomedian) and that Lila has all the dirt on Gabe!
The thing with Gabriel this episode is that there's the revelation he had humble beginnings like Marinette does, then he becomes a famous designer because of being friends with Audrey and he also changes his name after that. Something happens after becoming famous/marry Emily that makes him want to hide his past i guess that also relates to Lila because her pathological lying is way worse than expected.
15:24 I think it's Emelie, Chloe's mom, and the president. I didn't think of Chloe's mom until you said it. Basically these are the current people in power
i think that the contract is the contract that gabriel and kagamis mother had made when they created the alliance rings (scene earlier this season we saw she gave him an object that helped gabriel created the miraculous into rings)
The document you tried to read is basically called Lorem Ipsum Lorem Ipsum, simply Lipsum, is defined as a block of dummy text used in the desktop publishing and press publishing industry. Lipsum is used to fill the text block by replacing the content in the templates and drafts to be created. So it has no real meaning lol
I need Lila to be dealt, not just cause she's dangerous, but also cause she is just as annoying as Chloe and a terrible liar (at least, to the viewers)
Lila is such a freaking fantastic villan!!!! I felt like the writers were wanting to do something similar with chloe in the beginning but she's more of a follower lila to me is more of a leader... she gets what she wants in the end or she'll get others to do her bidding for her...
Idk but I like this episode SO MUCH. My heart was pounding with every sequence when I watched for the first time. Maybe the course of story present on this ep, how things go far with Hoaxer putting Paris against Marinette, Ladybug and Cat Noir, an incredible plan made by Lila, one of the only thinking heads of Miraculous. Getting akumatized just for collect infos from Gabriel/Monarch???!! Totally I-C-O-N-I-C. I love those episodes when Lila got attention, even being an ultra hater of hers and the way writers make everyone dumb af just to show how Lila is a "good" liar lol
Her gaslighting is so powerful that she can fool other women into believing that she is their daughter? Hell, for all we know she might even be an adult.
The thing that it seems to me about Lila, is that she doesn't actually have a final goal. She is just a narcisistic pathological lying sociopath who wants to be powerful and adored in every circle and aspect as possible, and she just takes her life each day at a time, seing what she can get by taking advantage from others, without giving a care at all about how it harms the others, who are seen as nothing but either tools at her disposal or peebles in her path.
If your kids ever tell you, while they are on a safari, that the rangers are letting them anywhere near a wild rhinoceros, much less a baby who's in a trap, immediately ask them to put the person in charge on the phone and get your kid away from them. You can also sue that company for dangerous practices. Lila's lies are sometimes so needlessly extra, it drives me insane that the adults in this world are THIS oblivious.
A tiny thing I like about this episode is it shows not everyone has an Alliance Ring. Not everyone owns an iPhone, so it seems too convenient only the heroes would lack the fad
This whole entire opening had me SO confused! These past few episodes have been INSANE and I love them! Y'know, for Alya being a 'reporter', she's really bad at recognizing Lila is a horrible person. lol I hate Lila so much. She's way too good at what she does. Getting to see Lila go so far, as to make sure her hatred is all aimed at Marinette so that Monarch will give her powers. Then she uses those powers to make it seem like she's doing Monarch's bidding while actually having a secret side mission the entire time. It was really impressive, and its scary thinking of her becoming more powerful. Super intrigued to see how the story continues.
It’s odd how this episode didn’t appear on my episode list on the Miraculous website (some of them were in french), I’d never thought I’d say this but I actually *WANTED* to see this episode about Lila!
I do hope we'll see more of this Lila who is actually a skilled actress and manipulator rather than past Lila who tells so obvious lies, it hurts to see the others just eat them up.
lmao, this simultaneously one of my favorite and least favorite mlb episodes to watch reactions to. Because it's just SO wild and watching your expressions through it (especially that first scene and the Nathalie scene) was incredibly fun. But also the whole class president plotline makes me sick to my stomach, the way she's able to just swoop in and snatch exactly what she wants without issue despite the fact that it's obvious to the audience what she's doing. What an episode!
So, I have my own theories and questions. I believe that the first two, the picture of the cart and the menu (which, btw, seems to be one of those food trucks for fries) must've been Gabriel's first job. To me, that almost symbolizes him being Marinette in his relationship with Emilie. Emilie was the one who came from wealth like Adrien and Gabriel, instead of being a "baker" like Marinette, he was more like a "fry boy." The picture of him acting, it seems to most likely, if not definitely, be the banana suit guy but in a different costume. That actually gives us a good idea of just how old the guy in that costume is. The picture of Gabriel in his young adult years, that's definitely Emilie, Andre and Audrey. Like, 110%. However, those last two pictures of him with the three of them and the one of him, Emilie and Nathalie, has me asking what I feel is a very important question. That question is: Who is taking those pictures? I mean, them being torn and singed could easily be explained. However, this doesn't and I have my theories. Firstly, the picture of him, Emilie, Andre and Audrey. I think I have a pretty easy answer to this question of who could've taken the photo. That person would be none other than Tomoe Tsurugi, Kagami's mother. We don't know when Tomoe lost her eyesight, but I theorize that she might've lost it around the time when she created Kagami. (Even if that wasn't the case and she had Kagami because she became blind, Heck, she could've been part of the reason why it broke. She must've been the one to test it, as Kagami is a year older than our other protagonists. Heck, her mother could've been part of the reason why it broke. She must've been the one to test it, as Kagami is a year older than our other protagonists.) So she could've very well have been able to take the picture. Especially since she was friends with all four of them and was even one of the actresses in Andre's movie, as seen when he shows Zoe his secret hiding spot on the roof from when he directed his passion project. Secondly, the picture of him, Emilie and Nathalie. This picture, it's actually more likely than the one before it that they could've set up a camera on a timer and was able to take the picture from there. However, in the event that that might not be the case, I question: who else could've been there with them taking this photograph? Maybe it was Tomoe Tsurugi again? Maybe someone else? We know the Gorilla only came when Gabriel made a deal with Felix's father for use of the Peacock miraculous, so it wasn't him. Maybe it was someone we've yet to meet? I guess we'll have to wait and see if we get anything on this in the future!
But Scarabella could NEVER get and do the miraculous Scarabella thing with that lucky charm because if ladybug detransforms the lucky charm disappears too
Lila is big-brained evil and I kinda can't wait for the show to fully put her in the villain role. It might sound bad but I kinda can't wait for Villain Lila. I've grown tired of Gabriel tbh and while I loathe her, I am also interested in finally figuring out the mystery that is Lila. Not to mention - I think she's going to be a hundred times more formidable than Gabriel. And I'm kinda here for it. I think with Lila, they will have no choice but to have a constant big team of heroes to defend against Lila which is where I've been hoping the story will go. Marinette and Adrien should not be bearing all this weight and responsibility alone. It should be shared so that its a little lighter.
This bish on a whole mother level of deceptive; cheating on her mother WITH HER MOTHER having multiple parental affairs so she can trick them into giving her multiple cristmases and birthdays
I can’t stand that everyone just believes her like YOU KNOW MARINETTE you supposed to be her best friend and then Adrien LITERALLY BACKS HER UP like nah y’all don’t know her like I do and y’all STILL WANNA ACT LIKE awe no need to agree with her delusions BISH WTF
In the wake of S6, and the London special, it's really frightening that Lila knows two things: Emilie's corpse in the basement, and the wedding ring. I wonder if she'll understand the link between the ring and Adrien being a Senti but with these two infos, she can bring immense pain to Adrien and to Marinette by proxy. I'm not very concerned about Gabi's youth pics, save for the photo with the Peacock. I think the one who took the photo in Tibet was Audrey. At the end of Feast she was shown watching the news about ghe temple coming back in Tibet and being clearly interested. The other adults shown were Tomoe, Gabriel and Nathalie, so Audrey taking the photo could make sense. I'm still shocked to see Audrey in her youth looked like a nice person 😮. WTH happened to her to become so cruel and self-centered 😢?
Great reaction video Zamber! 15:04 I think it is the Mayor/André(born as Anaximandre_ and Audrey Bourgeois in that photo with Gabriel Agreste(born as Gabi Grassette) and Emilie Agreste (née Graham de Vanily).( 17:22 Oh now I know for sure that it was them lol) 15:51 Didn't they find the book/grimoire, butterfly and peacock miraculous at the same time because Master Fu lost them at the same time in the same place and Gabriel had them three? 19:50 Four moms?! I only saw and knew of three moms, the mom from the others season, the one from the start of this episode and the other mom we saw either this season or from season 4 but she probably has more lol 20:23 " Like everthing about her is not true" hmmm thats about right (If you know what I mean , you know it, if not, Lila is Lila aka Lie-la lol) 23:18 - 23:23 👀👀 I can't wait to see your reaction to the next episodes! 13:30 This is one of the moments everyone has been waithing for idk if its a spoiler or not but its something that has said in season 3 23:53 yeah this Ep 18 Timetagger: I said that I was sent by the Hawkmoth from the future but I never said that the Hawkmoth from the future was/is you 24:14 Lila said that she hates Marinette and Ladybug and at the time she didn't know that she hates just one person (this is kinda a spoiler with the 'at the time')
Lila possesses multiple identities & families. React to Confrontation where she & Chloe planning to expell Marinette by forging the papers because the first thing she is the one who is collecting their study option forms, then they faked it by using Sabrina to fake it. BUT SHE FALLS INTO A TRAP by Marinette & Sabrina. Lila & Chloe were caught. Chloe call her father to force him to not get expelled. but Audrey forced him, then Denis got fired & was sacrificing his principles. then Lila was expelled but Chloe was not. Lila takes on a new identity as Cerise, a movie actor & class representive in another school.
Gabriel's real name is Gabi Grassette and his family owned a French fry truck. He became a famous designer thanks to Audrey Bourgeois, who he befriended along with André. When he became a famous designer, he changed his name to Gabriel Agreste. Also, that document (along with most of the written words in documents) has nonsense words, so don't try to read them.
was Audrey the woman we saw at 11:02 ?
@@archangeruriseofthewizards8649Yes, she was dating Andre. They were friends with Gabriel and Emilie.
Is it a "Lorem ipsum" doc? That latin gibberish used by publisher to get an idea of how a printed text would look like ?
@@miraculous-talesYeah, and she looks to be kind on the picture, it's 😮
Lila is becoming more dangerous. This is starting to confirm the theory that she will become the Hawkmoth of the future. Poor Nooroo can’t catch a break.
Will he ever have a superhero for a partner who is his best friend
She also knows all the heroes identities that Gabriel found out in Miracle Queen. They couldn’t show it due to run-time.
i mean wasn't it already confirmed that ladybug and chat were going to be fighting another villan not hawkmoth/monarch after the time hopping villan episode way back when with time tagger,..... just not who the new villan was
@@E_btsot798 no Timetagger says he was created by the Hawkmoth of the future. Gabriel assumed that it was his future self. Then the villain reveals that Hawkmoth did create him, just not Gabriel. So someone else becomes Hawkmoth. Many theorized it would be Lila. Other theory choices were Chloe, Felix, and Adrian (even though that made me least sense)
@@renji90998 that’s why I said at the end that the only thing we knew was that another villain takes over for hawk moth/monarch we just didn’t know who but with this season we kinda have a better guess who does take over for hawk moth
This episode is the perfect example of
When we know more about Lila we understand less
Even though it makes her mysterious & interesting to know her motivations. I do wish we know more of her than just being used as a plot devise at times
@@littlesparrow303yea exactly. She's been here since season 1 and we barely even know anything abt her
@@sirinsx8383 yep & I’ve read better fanfictions and fan comics that people do to learn about her. Especially one fan clinic where Marinette does befriend Lila and help her to become better & be on the good side. I can’t wait for the adult novels of Miraculous next year since it’ll be aimed towards young adults and adults
Mrs. Bustier is starting to realize that she’s not as good a teacher she think she is. Yes, she does care for her students, but does have bit of a naïve viewpoint. Can’t help someone if they genuinely don’t want to be helped. Remember back in season one of Origins and Kim was making fun of Ivan? She immediately blamed Ivan without even fully understanding the situation. I’m not sure how old she is but she probably is still a pretty young teacher, and is still learning herself. Also pretty much all the of the school faculty bend the knee at Chloe because her father can easily have them fired. I can understand her wanting to have faith in Chloe, but she’s definitely starting to wise up. Keeping a better eye on her.
It doesn't help that the culture of kindness Miss Bustier has created in her homeroom takes for granted that people will return prosocial behavior with like. It's a situation ripe for exploitation by sociopaths like Chloe and Lila.
I feel like being a nice and kind teacher is good but with Mrs. Bustier, she gets blinded by it
I never really took Lila too seriously in s1-s3, but recently she’s been catching my attention, that girl gets more and more dangerous by the minute.
I had the feeling that Lila wasn't even close to her worst as soon as we were told that the future Hawkmoth is a different Miraculous holder.
You clearly have a better intuition than me.
I hadn't realized it until later, but the deaf woman is the third mom Lila has had. There was another woman who saw her off when she was getting on the train.
It's impressive she managed to get herself adopted so many times with none of the parents knowing... I'm assuming that's what happened
@@rickypedia999nah it's not that hard you just gotta max out ur deception
Something I find kind of interesting about Cat Noir in this episode is that they make him a little more capable than they sometimes have lately. He does get captured, but I legitimately think it was an intntional ploy to coax Hoaxer (lol, sounds funny out loud) out of the ring, seeing as he rather easily escapes on his own later on
I love how Marinette and Lisa were just calling Chloe a horrible person during the campaign and everyone was okay with it.
At that point, everyone agrees that they were spittin' facts.
Lisa? You mean Alya or Lila?
@@katie15732 Lila…
Chloe doesn't really disagree lol
She literally nods when Marinette says that she believes she is better than them.
The fry costume was mentioned in psychomedian. The guy inside the costume is the comedian. They were friends
Artie Clown (or Franck Dubosc, since the character is based on this actor)
5:10 Isn't it frustrating how the show didn't have Marinette spell out the truth of the Lila situation to Alya at any point after letting Alya in on her secret? Seriously, Alya ought to know the full story from Marinette's perspective by now. Everything that Marinette kept quiet about when it happened because it was too close to her secret. Also, it ought to raise some red flags for Alya that Lila was at one point bragging about being Ladybug's best friend. Ask Marinette about that!
there is an episode of Lila being exposed
Don't worry, very soon you'll realize why Lila has different "moms"
I’ve watched all the episodes and even the leaked ones, I must’ve missed something, why is she switching moms?
@@deckofflorarewatch pos credit scene of eps 21
@@deckofflora cuz she has different identitys
@@mrsiraldo2544 I mean I know she has different identities, but that doesn’t really explain why she has multiple parents??? Is she a foster child??? Is she replacing someone else’s child???
Idk what to think anymore, i thought Marinette was Ladybug, but all this time our homegirl was Monarch😢
Damn I feel the same way
Fr what a fakey 🤧🤧🤧🤧
Lmao😂
ikr 😭😭
Can’t believe ladybug and chat noir blow up planets to destroy the O-zone layer :,(
2:49 Gabriel sippin’ Lila’s hater energy like a fine wine is beautiful, I’m not gonna lie! XD
Prepare yourself, Zamber, the next episodes will leave you at the edge of madness. Forget everything you think it is going to happen, because the twists will really twist your mind in ways you never thought it was possible. If you think Lila is bad now... you just wait. So far, we have been seeing her better side. It's not just the characters that have been deceived, it was also all the Miraculers.
16:19 OMG I love the continuity of this show because this is not the first time we’ve seen this contract or heard about this deal we first physically saw the contract all the way back in season 3 in the episode “Animestro” when the were attended the movie Premiere I always thought it was a weird detail till I saw this episode. Then in Stormy Weather 2 this contract is also mentioned by Gabriel who says “To the attention of Mrs. Tsurugi. Things may not be going exactly the way we planned but change can be a good thing. I'm confident it’ll only strengthen our agreement in the end” so yeah they’ve been planing this
Lila has three mothers (at least). The mother she was talking to thinks she is in Africa. And there's a very good reason why she didn't want to have a video chat with her (besides the fact she is in fact in Paris). Also, if you pay attention, that room where Lila is appears in "Perfection", so she went to live there at least around that episode. Also, she wasn't suppose to get just those secrets Nathalie sent her. She would also get the information about the heroes whose identities are known to Gabriel and Nathalie. However, they cut that, since that would give her too much information and also perhaps Nathalie didn't send them because technically those are not Gabriel's secrets, .
They actually cut in due to run-time she still knows them
@domonicsantalucia9002 so it's official, that lila knows the holders' secret identities?
@@flyflip87 pretty much, unless they retcon it in Season 6. Which I honestly wouldn’t be surprised. But for now, yes she does
@@domonicsantalucia9002 Don't forget that, just because Lila getting the identity of the holders Gabriel and Nathalie knew about is in the original script, it doesn't mean it is canon. Many things are in the original scripts but didn't make it to the series. Some details are changed or cut, being either for animation purposes or any other reason. For example, in "Timetagger", the identity of future Hawk Moth would be pretty much confirmed because of a line the villain said. Also, both Scarabella and Mister Bug would be able to also make Magical Charms. "Collusion" and "Revolution" are also great examples. Unless season 6 shows that or the producers confirm it, we have to assume Lila didn't get to know the identities.
@@domonicsantalucia9002No she doesn’t. Where did you get that from? She only knows the identity of Bunnix and possibly Argos
12:50 She says I love you so easily now. Marinette you've come a long wayyyyyy. So proud of her this season, seriously. So much character development
Zamber is getting closer and closer to the finale omg 😭
Plan for Lila it's the trick monarch think that she's mad at Marinette but realistically he's going after monarch she pretend to do it and get the secrets so genius
Nice ASL. I studied it for years to be an interpreter. My teacher said my eyesight was too poor, and it wouldn't be easy. I still use ASL, but only to myself. Like to count. I'm always impressed when animated shows accurately show sign language.
If you read sign language and couldn’t understand what the mom was signing, it’s because that is French Sign Language, they had a professional signer help them for the show.
The way you wore an outfit that fits Lila's vibe 😂
Lila literally tried to get Marinette lynched let that sink in
16:07 Unfortunately I'm pretty sure that document is just Lorem Ipsum (basically random latin words thrown together, websites often use it for sample text) In fact the show rarely ever uses real French writing in later seasons, since none of the animation is actually produced in France.
Yea I think most of the animation is from Japan and South Korea (like SAMG and Toei)
@@volpixrossi3589 I think Toei only does the storyboards, this episode was animated by SAMG, some other episodes are by studios from India and Spain.
I have a prediction I feel like if Lila becomes season 6 villain, she's gonna have this TRAGIC backstory about her being an infant and has to lie to everyone to fend for herself and why she has to lie all the time
Okay, Revelation time.
Gabriel Agreste was given a drop of lore in this episode.. That being the pictures of him with Emilie and Natalie, Andrei and Audrey, and with Harry the Clown. There's something that changed from the time the pictures were taken and the current era. Gabriel's personality.
Gabriel seems to have lost his young personality. I mean, this is normal since he's maturing and stuff. But we do know now that he used to be more fun-going and was a *prankster* based on the pictures, especially with Harry the Clown. This detail is said to be VERY important in S6.
Folks, get ready for Prankster Gabi in S6.
Hoaxers accusations, though ridiculous, correlates to the struggles of the internet and how a lot of people will believe even the most absurd things without questioning if it’s right or wrong, acting on them regardless of the people they hurt. Lila has been a very interesting character, she is not above lying to her "moms" and seeks a life where all eyes can fall onto her, a life where she can have all the attention she wants and be the star she believes she has a right to be, but the moment someone gets in the way of her accomplishing what she wants, she will fixate on taking them down. Mr. Bustier is not a bad teacher, she tries to work things out with her words and tries to help her students as best she can, but even she is realizing her ways are not as full proof as she had hoped when dealing with students like Chloe. Regardless, she can’t help but try to find another way to help Chloe realize the error of her ways through the help of others like Lila, who she believes is really a good person Chloe will listen to. As much as It’s clear to us that Lila is not who she says, Lila has done to good a job at convincing everyone she is to good a person to question.
At this i'm not even annoyed by Lila for lying so much,but i'm annoyed that everybody else is so STUPID to believe her!
6:06-Considering how Lila can convince everyone by acting as a kind girl,to the point where even the teacher just shuts down her brain to believe her,Chloe probably has a point!
Yeah, that's my main gripe with the storytelling around Lila too. There are some instances where Lila genuinely has great manipulation skill, and then there are many times where characters are actively dumbed down or worse, turn into actually bad characters to accommodate the idea that Lila is a brilliant manipulator. (As a minor example, the fact that Lila's "mom" on the phone in this episode wasn't immediately horrified at the idea of her child approaching a baby rhinoceros without training makes her a terrible mom. There are more situations with characters we actually know, but the instances I'm thinking of that relate to Lila haven't shown up yet.)
Lila has 3 mothers.
1 - We can see her on The Heroes day.
2 - The last Shadow Moth atack
3 - This episode
Take your time on watching these! (Confrontation and Collusion are now out in English!) all the remaining episodes comes out in English every Saturday until the last episode on September 2nd.
I really think the episode with the whole Lila framing Marinette as Hawk Moth to be a direct message about toxic media and how it’ll manipulate you
It's been said that Lila Rossi is not her real name, she's been shown with short hair and called "Cherese" In her first appearance she said her grandmother was a fox superhero, I think that maybe the one true thing she said about her background.
The Tomoe's and Gabriel's paper was in lorem ipsum (just random words in latin)
And the four people from the photo were Gabriel, Emilie, Audrey and Andre.
Now we know that Gabriel's actual name was Gabi Grassette, he wasn't rich but he had a fry shop. We learnt in Season 2 episode "Style Queen" that it was Audrey the one who helped Gabriel become famous and rich. Before that, he, Emilie and Andre used to make films without having money (Gabriel and Andre weren't rich and Emilie left her home and her heritage) and Gabriel made a design for Harry Clown (as we saw in "Psycomedian")
I am so shocked how quickly you’ve caught up with the show. It feels like you just started this a few months ago.
Lila having multiple moms causes me to lose my sanity the same way Zamber does over multiple Jellals in Fairy Tail😂😅
Genesis / Shinra in "Hero's" : ...
So this ep not only shows us that Lila is a liar, but also a con artist! With three different moms, Gabe’s real name is actually Gabi Grassette and that he was punk (Psychomedian) and that Lila has all the dirt on Gabe!
The thing with Gabriel this episode is that there's the revelation he had humble beginnings like Marinette does, then he becomes a famous designer because of being friends with Audrey and he also changes his name after that.
Something happens after becoming famous/marry Emily that makes him want to hide his past i guess that also relates to Lila because her pathological lying is way worse than expected.
“People asking me why Lila is my favorite character”
Me: (shows them this episode) need I say more?
the woman with Lila, the who came in, doing sign language, it's her third mom, and she's deaf
Just wanna say that the next episodes are going to be crazy. I am so excited, I love ur reactions❤
2:16 I’ll bet Lila hoped that Gabriel would see her as Adrien’s perfect life partner, well she was dead wrong. Gabriel only sees Lila as a nobody.
15:24 I think it's Emelie, Chloe's mom, and the president. I didn't think of Chloe's mom until you said it. Basically these are the current people in power
i think that the contract is the contract that gabriel and kagamis mother had made when they created the alliance rings (scene earlier this season we saw she gave him an object that helped gabriel created the miraculous into rings)
Lila being just pure chaos, really love to see
The document you tried to read is basically called Lorem Ipsum
Lorem Ipsum, simply Lipsum, is defined as a block of dummy text used in the desktop publishing and press publishing industry. Lipsum is used to fill the text block by replacing the content in the templates and drafts to be created. So it has no real meaning lol
I need Lila to be dealt, not just cause she's dangerous, but also cause she is just as annoying as Chloe and a terrible liar (at least, to the viewers)
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No, what she needs is to get the taste knocked out of her mouth. That little brat.
Lila is such a freaking fantastic villan!!!! I felt like the writers were wanting to do something similar with chloe in the beginning but she's more of a follower lila to me is more of a leader... she gets what she wants in the end or she'll get others to do her bidding for her...
I can't wait for you to see the next episode. So far it's my favorite of season 5.
Which one?
@@Hotgirlenergy Season 5 episode 21
@@justintime9314 lol I mean the name
@@justintime9314 but I googled it and ohh she’s gonna flip 🤣😂
@@Hotgirlenergy IKR
Idk but I like this episode SO MUCH. My heart was pounding with every sequence when I watched for the first time. Maybe the course of story present on this ep, how things go far with Hoaxer putting Paris against Marinette, Ladybug and Cat Noir, an incredible plan made by Lila, one of the only thinking heads of Miraculous. Getting akumatized just for collect infos from Gabriel/Monarch???!! Totally I-C-O-N-I-C. I love those episodes when Lila got attention, even being an ultra hater of hers and the way writers make everyone dumb af just to show how Lila is a "good" liar lol
Her gaslighting is so powerful that she can fool other women into believing that she is their daughter? Hell, for all we know she might even be an adult.
Lila is so evil and smart and I adore her ! Villain from this episode was really powerful and had awesome design !
Zamber iam SO EXCITED FOR YOU TO WATCH THE NEXT EPISODE!!!! Confrontation is a masterpiece in a word, i LOVED THAT EPISODE
"Ladybug and catnoir come from the planet saturn and fart bubbles that destroy the ozone layer"
im pretty sure the document in the safe was the same contract that Mrs. Tsurugi signed in Season 3 (Animaestro)
The thing that it seems to me about Lila, is that she doesn't actually have a final goal.
She is just a narcisistic pathological lying sociopath who wants to be powerful and adored in every circle and aspect as possible, and she just takes her life each day at a time, seing what she can get by taking advantage from others, without giving a care at all about how it harms the others, who are seen as nothing but either tools at her disposal or peebles in her path.
If your kids ever tell you, while they are on a safari, that the rangers are letting them anywhere near a wild rhinoceros, much less a baby who's in a trap, immediately ask them to put the person in charge on the phone and get your kid away from them. You can also sue that company for dangerous practices.
Lila's lies are sometimes so needlessly extra, it drives me insane that the adults in this world are THIS oblivious.
Lila's social and logical manipulation stats are STRONK
A tiny thing I like about this episode is it shows not everyone has an Alliance Ring. Not everyone owns an iPhone, so it seems too convenient only the heroes would lack the fad
Lila is a very mysterious character. I like her for this. Maybe she is not a human. I want to know about her more in next seasons.
This whole entire opening had me SO confused!
These past few episodes have been INSANE and I love them!
Y'know, for Alya being a 'reporter', she's really bad at recognizing Lila is a horrible person. lol
I hate Lila so much. She's way too good at what she does.
Getting to see Lila go so far, as to make sure her hatred is all aimed at Marinette so that Monarch will give her powers. Then she uses those powers to make it seem like she's doing Monarch's bidding while actually having a secret side mission the entire time. It was really impressive, and its scary thinking of her becoming more powerful.
Super intrigued to see how the story continues.
It’s odd how this episode didn’t appear on my episode list on the Miraculous website (some of them were in french), I’d never thought I’d say this but I actually *WANTED* to see this episode about Lila!
I do hope we'll see more of this Lila who is actually a skilled actress and manipulator rather than past Lila who tells so obvious lies, it hurts to see the others just eat them up.
Zamber today is my birthday and your reaction made it even better! Love your Miraculous reactions and can’t wait for the rest of the season!! ❤
lmao, this simultaneously one of my favorite and least favorite mlb episodes to watch reactions to. Because it's just SO wild and watching your expressions through it (especially that first scene and the Nathalie scene) was incredibly fun. But also the whole class president plotline makes me sick to my stomach, the way she's able to just swoop in and snatch exactly what she wants without issue despite the fact that it's obvious to the audience what she's doing. What an episode!
Lila's end goal is pain and suffering for Marinette
* dream big honey * Got me rolling
My theory about Lila is that she's either a secret agent or She has a disease called Mythomania
So, I have my own theories and questions.
I believe that the first two, the picture of the cart and the menu (which, btw, seems to be one of those food trucks for fries) must've been Gabriel's first job. To me, that almost symbolizes him being Marinette in his relationship with Emilie. Emilie was the one who came from wealth like Adrien and Gabriel, instead of being a "baker" like Marinette, he was more like a "fry boy."
The picture of him acting, it seems to most likely, if not definitely, be the banana suit guy but in a different costume. That actually gives us a good idea of just how old the guy in that costume is.
The picture of Gabriel in his young adult years, that's definitely Emilie, Andre and Audrey. Like, 110%.
However, those last two pictures of him with the three of them and the one of him, Emilie and Nathalie, has me asking what I feel is a very important question. That question is: Who is taking those pictures? I mean, them being torn and singed could easily be explained. However, this doesn't and I have my theories.
Firstly, the picture of him, Emilie, Andre and Audrey. I think I have a pretty easy answer to this question of who could've taken the photo. That person would be none other than Tomoe Tsurugi, Kagami's mother. We don't know when Tomoe lost her eyesight, but I theorize that she might've lost it around the time when she created Kagami. (Even if that wasn't the case and she had Kagami because she became blind, Heck, she could've been part of the reason why it broke. She must've been the one to test it, as Kagami is a year older than our other protagonists. Heck, her mother could've been part of the reason why it broke. She must've been the one to test it, as Kagami is a year older than our other protagonists.) So she could've very well have been able to take the picture. Especially since she was friends with all four of them and was even one of the actresses in Andre's movie, as seen when he shows Zoe his secret hiding spot on the roof from when he directed his passion project.
Secondly, the picture of him, Emilie and Nathalie. This picture, it's actually more likely than the one before it that they could've set up a camera on a timer and was able to take the picture from there. However, in the event that that might not be the case, I question: who else could've been there with them taking this photograph? Maybe it was Tomoe Tsurugi again? Maybe someone else? We know the Gorilla only came when Gabriel made a deal with Felix's father for use of the Peacock miraculous, so it wasn't him. Maybe it was someone we've yet to meet? I guess we'll have to wait and see if we get anything on this in the future!
I just watched the movie, and can't wait for the 2nd movie.
Hoaxer’s lies were hilarious 😂😂😂😂 8:28-9:26-10:31
“Everything about her is not true.” Oh shi- Wait for the next episode 😭😭😭
Want to comment but gonna wait until then to say it
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I wonder how Lila gets multiple moms and I love Lila's hoaxer costume it looks cool.
In the next episode you will see the real use of the magical charms
7:08
Perfectly in sync
I still cant believe they thought Marinette was Monarch, hes a dude and shes a girl, like wtf😂😂
I mean sparrow is also a dude but in reality a girl
GUYS THE QUEEN HAS POSTED (YOU ARE NOT READY FOR THE NEXT EPISODE)
I cant belevive that marinatte is monarach to think she was pretending to be a superhero... very disgracful indeed
this episode is so unhinged and i don’t even know if i’m here for it-
I think that was the alliance contract...
Lila surely must be the next monarch
At 14:17
i think these people ⤵
Andre Bourgeois
Audrey Bourgeois
Gabriel Agreste
Emilie Agreste
are in the photo.
Долго ждал это видео, спасибо большое Замбер❤
In the photo of the couple the other two couple were the mayor and its wife 😊
But Scarabella could NEVER get and do the miraculous Scarabella thing with that lucky charm because if ladybug detransforms the lucky charm disappears too
GIRLL IK U SAID TUESDAYS BUT U NEEED NEED NEEEEEEDDD TO REACT TO THE FINALE 😭😭😭😭
Since i dont have Disney Plus and only watched the episodes thru Instagram clips, im watching along with Zamber this time :)
I CAN'T WAIT for you to react to the season finale!!
The power of Fakenews
Lila is big-brained evil and I kinda can't wait for the show to fully put her in the villain role. It might sound bad but I kinda can't wait for Villain Lila. I've grown tired of Gabriel tbh and while I loathe her, I am also interested in finally figuring out the mystery that is Lila. Not to mention - I think she's going to be a hundred times more formidable than Gabriel. And I'm kinda here for it. I think with Lila, they will have no choice but to have a constant big team of heroes to defend against Lila which is where I've been hoping the story will go. Marinette and Adrien should not be bearing all this weight and responsibility alone. It should be shared so that its a little lighter.
Th folks in the photo are Emily, Andre, Gabriel, and Audrey
Yes that is the mayor and his wife in the photo.
Those are Chloe's parents in one of the photos.
This bish on a whole mother level of deceptive; cheating on her mother WITH HER MOTHER having multiple parental affairs so she can trick them into giving her multiple cristmases and birthdays
I keep forgetting that Lila is just a teenager😂
I can’t stand that everyone just believes her like YOU KNOW MARINETTE you supposed to be her best friend and then Adrien LITERALLY BACKS HER UP like nah y’all don’t know her like I do and y’all STILL WANNA ACT LIKE awe no need to agree with her delusions BISH WTF
In the wake of S6, and the London special, it's really frightening that Lila knows two things: Emilie's corpse in the basement, and the wedding ring. I wonder if she'll understand the link between the ring and Adrien being a Senti but with these two infos, she can bring immense pain to Adrien and to Marinette by proxy. I'm not very concerned about Gabi's youth pics, save for the photo with the Peacock.
I think the one who took the photo in Tibet was Audrey. At the end of Feast she was shown watching the news about ghe temple coming back in Tibet and being clearly interested. The other adults shown were Tomoe, Gabriel and Nathalie, so Audrey taking the photo could make sense.
I'm still shocked to see Audrey in her youth looked like a nice person 😮. WTH happened to her to become so cruel and self-centered 😢?
Great reaction video Zamber! 15:04 I think it is the Mayor/André(born as Anaximandre_ and Audrey Bourgeois in that photo with Gabriel Agreste(born as Gabi Grassette) and Emilie Agreste (née Graham de Vanily).( 17:22 Oh now I know for sure that it was them lol)
15:51 Didn't they find the book/grimoire, butterfly and peacock miraculous at the same time because Master Fu lost them at the same time in the same place and Gabriel had them three? 19:50 Four moms?! I only saw and knew of three moms, the mom from the others season, the one from the start of this episode and the other mom we saw either this season or from season 4 but she probably has more lol
20:23 " Like everthing about her is not true" hmmm thats about right (If you know what I mean , you know it, if not, Lila is Lila aka Lie-la lol)
23:18 - 23:23 👀👀
I can't wait to see your reaction to the next episodes!
13:30 This is one of the moments everyone has been waithing for
idk if its a spoiler or not but its something that has said in season 3 23:53 yeah this
Ep 18 Timetagger: I said that I was sent by the Hawkmoth from the future but I never said that the Hawkmoth from the future was/is you
24:14 Lila said that she hates Marinette and Ladybug and at the time she didn't know that she hates just one person (this is kinda a spoiler with the 'at the time')
I know this is a show but if celebrities ask their fans to do some crazy shit I wonder if they actually do it 🤣🤔
Upcoming Episodes:
Confrontation
Collusion
Revolution (Dub 8/12)
Representation (Dub 8/19)
Conformation (Dub 8/26)
Re-creation (Dub 9/2)
Action (Dub 9/9)
Lila possesses multiple identities & families. React to Confrontation where she & Chloe planning to expell Marinette by forging the papers because the first thing she is the one who is collecting their study option forms, then they faked it by using Sabrina to fake it. BUT SHE FALLS INTO A TRAP by Marinette & Sabrina. Lila & Chloe were caught. Chloe call her father to force him to not get expelled. but Audrey forced him, then Denis got fired & was sacrificing his principles. then Lila was expelled but Chloe was not. Lila takes on a new identity as Cerise, a movie actor & class representive in another school.
Next episode gonna be so epic !