Like Ya Car - Early Years of Motoring in Australia
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- Episode from the 1999 TV series Our Century, presented by Ray Martin.When the motor car first started to appear on Australian roads, some saw it as a nuisance that scared the horses & a craze that was going to be short lived.
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I was 19, March 1981, I bought my 1st car, a 1967 HR Holden from Muir's Motors Ashfield, $1450..Freedom, good times, mates, girls..
My mum picked up her Pink EK. Holden from Muir's motors brand new.
15 years old car for $1450. Sounds a lot.
The beautiful Australia that we need back
Our remarkable leaders have made sure that wont happen.
Too bloody right, we’ve totally lost our unique identity!
@@hajorodyk1470 Mate we gave in, stopped fighting for our country, totally surrendered to the corrupt elites..... Time to wake up is now or forever we are enslaved
@pjdsa sorry Australia is fucked, it's a shell of itself. Sold out by traitors.
@@realsocrates5272 must agree with that, spot on mate.
Just a point to clarify about Holdens. ( and I'm not putting them down, I have owned many over the years but not since they started making the Commodore,despite my spending 10 years working at the Elizabeth plant from '87 to '97.) when the challenge was originally put out by Chifley, Lawrence Hartnett who was GM's Aussie manager at the time, approached GM's management in Detroit with his plan to build cars here in Australia. they declined repeatedly, wanting to build cars in the US and ship them here to sell rather than manufacture them here. However, Hartnett persisted and finally GM relented with one caveat. Lawrence Hartnett could set up manufacturing here in Australia, but GM refused to provide so much as a single penny towards the costs. so he approached Chifley, and he, eager to get Australia back on its feet after the war, working together with the Commonwealth bank came up with the initial 3,000,000 pounds needed to get things up and running. once GM got wind of this, they then stepped back into the picture, taking control of the project from then on.
The beautiful FJ Holden was our 1st Aussie family car in 1960. My earliest memories is as a 4-5 year old standing on the floor in the back and just being able to touch the top of the front seat, which were all bench seats by the way.🦘🐨
My first car, at age 17, in 1966.
watching this more than a decade after, brings back great memories
You forgot the other Australian car company , Valiant by Chrysler. It was as much an Australian company as GMH and Ford. My dad ,uncle and their cousin used to spend many hours talking about which was best.
True.. however, neither Ford nor Valiant had the history behind Holden as an entity and family in Australia. As for which was better, it's a matter of opinion and which you had in the family.
Personally, I believe Holden was the better car.. those old Red Motors were near indestructible and had bullet proof reliable. They never suffered issues during Australia's hot summers either, as some of the early Fords did(know nothing of the Valiant). I know Holden well, had a HK Holden(1969)with a 186 red in the family for some 25 years(parted with it in 1995).. the motor lived on in a HG premier(1970) for another 15 years after that. The HG was finally retired in 2014 and let go of in 2020. It was still running like a sewing machine when it went.
@@gooseknack they were no more reliable than chrysler's 225. holden, while having its genesis here, was not that after gm took over. the commodore, like the xd falcon, was a car engineered from an existing european model, the opel. the xd came from the grenada.
@@lifelongbachelor3651the xd may have looked like a MK2 Grenada but it was just a rebodied xc with only the headlights/front indicators the same as the euro model
Great story. I remember a lot of it well.
This program made me thinking with nostalgia back at the Old South Africa. We even had the same advert: "Braaivleis, rugby, sunny skies and Chevrolet". So similar. Those were the days.
Yeah not having to polish your own car cook your own food or even clean up after yourself.
Back in the 60s my parents owned an FX Holden (or an FJ). Dad drove a drilling rig and mum, my big sister and I followed him around the country in the Holden towing an 18 foot Franklin caravan. We were pretty much self-sufficient and often lived hundreds of kilometres from the nearest town. For you Trekkies, the licence plate was NCC-600. That was replaced with a '63 Falcon wagon (XM or XP I think) then that was replaced with an AP-6 Valiant wagon which mum and dad drove (with me and the dog and half our belongings) from Perth to Brisbane in late 1975. I was 11 going on 12 at the time. Prior to the FX, dad owned a 39 Ford that got written of by a drunk bloke in a Volkswagon in Brisbane city one night when I was 12 months old. Around 1964. Anyway, I'm rambling, sorry.
No need to apologise. You're lucky to still have those memories, thanks for sharing them 😊
Ramble on brother, we about same age, and a few miles were done in holdens all through the sixties.
i heard of humber snipe and others of the fifties but the first i really remember was the "FB" ( secound hand, in about '63, first new (family) car was
HK 161 in '68.
All good memories
I enjoyed that. Love to our Commonwealth brothers and sisters from Canada.
One aspect of the advent of the motor car that didn't get much of a mention (if any) was the liberating effect it had on people's lives, and on women in particular. People were now able to go where they wanted, when they wanted, in a timely manner and in relative comfort and safety. In particular, women were not tied to the home, and could become independent, empowered and self-determining. Their participation in the workforce increased significantly, as did their particpation in other non-work activities.
The term 'love affair with cars' is currently used perjoratively, as if it were an unhleathy obsession. People these days forget how benefical it was (and still is) for the population in general and women in particular.
Driving up a hill in the 50's-- "Oh no, a bloody Morris Minor in front of us. We'll be here all day!"
With the right-turn signal on all the way, too!
@@lezlezman1843 Ah, yes-the little finger thing that poked out the side. A revolution in design!
A minor delay
Every one knocks the old P76, it was the only car where you could fit a 44 gallon drum in the boot and close it perfectly. No, I didn’t have one, I drove the ‘70 XY Falcon V8, 351 C.I.
P76 - Also hide 4 of your mates in the boot to sneek into the drive-in.
So nice to hear the word "kilometre" spoken correctly for a change. Man I'd forgotten the Hey Charger ads on telly.
My old dad had a P76 V8 he loved it, burnt orange colour.
That colour was called "home on the orange", acrylic lacquer was just replacing nitrocellulose "Duco" about then so DuPont brought out a range of dazzling colours with fancy names to lift the appeal of their product. There was another crazy colour called"take me home to mother". There were about 10 colours in the range.
Stavros
The P76. A much maligned car.
Unfortunately this mockumentary suffers quite a bit from the superficial approach of Channel Nine and Ray Martin, but I guess it is the best we have got.
I don't think anyone could have been more superficial than Ray. What a shame.
Agree entirely...like most stuff on commercial TV it's dumbed down to the lowest common denominator.
@@mikevale3620 As John Logie Baird said when he invented the TV
" I dont know if I have done a good thing or bad". I think he did a
good thing, just the corrupting influences of the channel owners
have turned it into a worthless commodity.
Bloody brilliant. Grandad was an investor, dad could fix everything, & if he couldn't get a car part, he just made it himself. No such thing as can't in my family.
Very nice story.
I am a vintage American and got a real kick seeing the Holden and other makers products for the first time.
I find them very interesting and somewhat unsettling.
At first glance on many of them I see something both nostalgic and familiar . Then I realize I have no idea what they are.
One looked to me like a `55 Chevy with 56 Ford trim and paint. I am not certain I could tell unless I looked at the engine.
I`d like to see more of these!
Thanks for uploading this cool video.
My first car was a V8 4 speed Charger but I survived anyway
Yes they were like tanks. My Grandmother drove one lol and scared the shit out of me when she got behind the wheel 😂
Your a GOOSE And so is the person who replied to you about her cranmotha scering him
Lucky bastard, I had a 770 , got 16mpg on one run which I'm proud of.
HEY CHARGER 🤘
I had a VB Commodore. Looked like GM in line 6 and was pretty much an Opel. Nice little car. I forget the year but it was old and partly restored. I was in Tassie for a year in 2003-04.
Mostly German Opel Senator and Opel Commodore with a local engine which dated back to 1964. The Holden in-line six was a close Chevrolet design that itself dated to the late 50's.
I do like the pianos they make there and it has a beautiful sounds .
I’m an Aussie through and through, but We didn’t Invent the Utility.
Fascinating history. Little did people know more than a century ago, that the automobile was here to stay, and the horse and carriage would have to find a different path to take. It was the same with our American cars. :)
Jason Carpp z
LOVE CARS, LOVE THIA CLIP !!!!!!
Very interesting. Thanks.
Every man needs these kinds, were we drive cars and not like the ones now where they drive us (no fun)
''Not The Kingswood". R.I.P Ted.
thanks mate.
Yeahh these..days..not the craptiva mate TED ..they even changed the beer...fucking hypster shit generation..tooheys extra dry...KFC killed my uncle....craft beer is for hypsters who cant drink forshit...in2000 pub 8 pints 4 hours ..t bone chips veg drove the motor car home..💋🤣😂🇦🇺🤓🤭never again..likethat...thats GUINESS TOO...FUCK OURSOCIETY THESE DAYS...AUSTRALIA UR FUCKED...VB ISTHE BEST BEER...BRING BACK KB GOLD...goodon ya boss APD 83 falcon...
Because of all the bitching Muslims coming in, you'll never get Kingswood Country re-runs on the TV again ... while they play MASH re-runs every year.
@Aussie Pom Too many unpolished dipsticks in Canberra.
Money on the fridge!
Love this video
Nice trip down Nostalgia track, Thanks for the video Ray Martin..
In Canada it wasn't even possible to drive across Canada until 1943 when the northern route HWY 11 from Ottawa to Nipigon finally opened it wasn't until 1960 when the southern route over lake Superior from Sault St. Marie to Nipigon was finally opened.
That's interesting to realise how recent it was. A woman and her teenage daughter were the first to drive all around Australia in the 1920s. There were no roads in much of the more remote country. I had a book detailing their adventures in one chapter but I seem to have lost it. By 1930 several people had done it.
I think that all around the world people had a favorite car they owned or wanted to own. Mine was a 1966 Pontiac GTO. Best car I've ever had. I like a lot of the foreign cars too and the Holdens are super cool. Today's cars aren't cars but rolling computer juke boxes, very very expensive ones. And pump gas, what a joke. I always wanted to go to Australia too.
"Today's cars aren't cars but rolling computer juke boxes, very very expensive ones." I'll second that, Craig.
Hello Wayne -get stuff mate and ive followed your career -top stuff ,its david Rickard mate remember we acted in wantirna highs "finninans rainbow" -I was good too but you took it to another level ,All the best mate (cast me in one of your great shows lol) -cheers màte
Thank you
what a great story of old beth , and its great to seea time when only aussies were out enjoying life in the aussie car
Nice one
My first car in 1985. HQ Prem, 253 V8 Auto. Ten bucks in your pocket, a pack of Ciggies NO mobile phone. That is FREEDOM. Things have changed and not for the better.
Sadly Australia now show no homegrown auto industry. Ford, Holden (GM) Toyota produce elsewhere where labor is cheaper and the government more friendly. Those who worked in the factories assembling those cars will be on layoff, the parts suppliers, and their suppliers will eventually fold also. The economic effect slowly spreads across the country.
LTLUCKYLUKE it would be nice if there were a Australian home grown alternative; however, the startup cost would be outrageous. The government there wouldn't be willing to finance the effort and I can't see any individual or group willing to risk it on a 'new unknown' brand dedicated to what in reality is a small market.
Sadly Australia has become a full socialist country and socialists don't build any thing well if at all.
Roy Sage
Australia built 4 cylinder cars before howard signed the free trade agreement with Korea in the late 90's which saw cars like the Hyundai Excel for $13.999.
The reason they built large sedan was because that was all the rest of the world was already importing everything else into Australia.
The subsidies were part of the Buttons plan in order to lower tariff in the 80's.
The car companies should have sacked everyone and left when John Button announced his plan in 1985.
It doesn't matter who owns the company nobody works for their injury or loss and neither should they.
Even if they were not designed here many 4 cylinder cars were built here.
The free trade agreements were and are treasonous.
The excessive rules, regulations taxes and central banking all played a role.
Ford threatened to leave as early as 1985.
The 1995 incident your referring to is the Ford Taurus car which ford hoped it could to import and replace the falcon with.
Holden thought about doing the same when the VL commodore came to an end in 1988 but decided against it because at the time Australians still wanted 6 cylinder and V8 rear wheel drive sedans and no other GM plant was building such a car.
The subsudies were a sort of substitute for the tariff reductions.
The car companies should be commended for their stupidity for staying as long as they did because only a fool would keep investing when the governments were doing their level best to destroy the industry especially since the majority of Australian manufacturing had already been offshored or gone bust.
It wasn't.
Most Australian products are not banned and they can go into Asian countries without tariffs BUT there are other rules and costs these governments can impose on Australian products which make buying them very undesirable to the locals.
If you want to know what is really behind the demise of Australian Manufacturing google "The Lima Declaration" of 1975.
Most modified cars lose money it doesn't matter the make but generally stock used 4 cylinders hold their value very well.
R.I.P the Aussie car 😒
Sandy Websdale finally you guys have cars that are better built... If AU cars are any good to 'Au conditions', why not export them but cater for the export market i.e smaller engine but its maintaining durability
They were exported.
I Agree.
Weren’t Holdens basically German Opels and Vauxhalls with V8 engines propped in them?
@@southwest3671 Once upon a time.. That`s how we rolled
Dad owned an F J Holden bought new in the early sixties. The Holden was really a Chevrolet 215 monocoque construction. [should be 1952.]
@ letsseeif: FJ NOS? (new old stock)? In 1956 the FE replaced the FJ.
Correction. My father's FJ Holden was bought new in 1952, two tone green bought from Preston Motors Melbourne from Mister Speedy to Mr. Pace. [My little funny-but true.]
Back when cars were cars and not computers on wheels!!!
@pjdsa I'll have a head on with my valiant into your Poofter car any day.
Thanks for the upload
I remember my dad had a Holden Apollo and we had that till I was at least 10, bloody reliable those cars
cause it was a Toyota Camry SV21, rebadged , great cars none the less
football baseball hot dogs & Chevrolet cars were first to use this type of phrase in advertising. Holden was never an Australian car but a Yanki car by GMC
GMC? Genetically Modified Crap?
@Rodger Hodgson no surprises here
Leyland P76 😁😂😂😂 What a junk heap they were!! Gumtrees by the Roadwy - love live Slim Dusty, the greatest folk singer in Australian history.
Known as the P38 in the trade, because it was half a car.
The song was originally meat pies Kangaroos and Aussie cars, but was changed to Holden cars for an ad.
I suspect this actually was an Australian version of a similar advertising song used in the USA, which was about "baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet".
@@hebneh Yep you're right
My 1st car was a Vanguard with a main bearing knock , paid $50 .
I was in Melborn 1966. rode in a cab that I thought was a 55 chevrolet but the driver said it was a 60 holden.
That would of been an FB Holden Sedan. All those early Holdens right up until 1974 or thereabouts were based on Chevy models.
My first car, FX Holden. $75 with blown head gasket.
Graeme Williams : Did you hale from the Wattle Park region?
Memorable Holdens: 48-215 (FX), FJ, FE, FC, FB, EK, EJ, EH, HD, HR, HQ, HK, HT, and HG, with the HK introducing the two door iconic Monaro.............PS: Please note, HQ comes after HG and not after HR, cheers...
@@davidhamilton506 You have one wrong HQ should be HK then after HG comes HQ
@@raymossop4610 Thank you Ray, you're indeed correct. I've just noticed my gaff there. Yes, way back then I was returning to Canberra from Sydney down the Hume, and spied a Vehicle Transporter load of new HQs. I remember disliking the taillight/indicator set up that was installed in the rear bumper bar. Later that week, I called into the Holden Dealer and looked it over, and came away not all that impressed. I'm just four inches shy of 6 foot and in sitting behind the wheel of the HQ, I'm like just looking over the steering wheel. Anyhow, thanks for the feedback. I've now corrected that error. Cheers and stay safe ol' mate...
" my grandfather got no3 off the production line " fx" he told me. " motor was blueprinted " a. " special order " his car was black !"
I’ve still got my late fathers tyre levers in my toolbox. They still get used occasionally like last year on my 1970 mini for persuasion but never for tyres.
That was very good to watch and did show what it really was like. Great show, thanks
The first Drive In , in Australia was at Burwood Victoria,Not Coburg.
There was a third major car maker back then, that built better cars than holden and ford, not that he mentioned it.
Tom Quigley chrysler was always the best...
Yep, totally agree
Leyland?
VW beetles were built to 85% Aussie content, gearboxes, engines, castings all bodywork was pressed & assembled here in the 1960s, I worked there in foundry & heat treatment.Factory was in Westall Vic
Yes Chrysler was conveniently overlooked...despite it building the best 6 cylinder engines in Australia, the HEMI 6.
Every Body Has Forgotten, G O GGO Is It A Dart, The Old Reliable Gogomobile, And Said With A Good Scottish Accent, Good On You Tommy Brice, Or Is It Bryce, No Matter, Classic Mate.❤❤
Old Holdens never die.
Old.
They just go Faster!
On a good day you could hear them rusting or was that Ford?
Ford.
Found on rubbish dump
Just get sent to Japan to be converted to Toyotas.
So here in 2019, we really are no different than 1890, we are back to importing cars and fuel... and they say history never repeats itself.
Bradoutandabout, actually history always repeats itself.
@steve gale Maybe, but they were designed in the good ole US of Hay
and built by a Yank company, so what does that tell you?
09:42 - Jesus, I can't believe how much ground clearance that Holden has!
CheesyTV They were made higher 13" i believe to give plenty of clearance on dirt roads ie Outback , not many paved roads back then.
Neither can Jesus!
funny I always though Australians rode around on the backs of Kangaroos 🦘 and kept Koalas as pets 🙄🤔😆🤣😂
We do.
Only when we are not driving our Valiants across the gibbers.
The drive in liquor store 11:56 is an interesting idea.
Sort of took of didn't it?
Pity they never showed all the British cars on the roads back then. They made the Holden seem older than what it was.
Most of them were inferior to the Holden.
Are we there yet?
Every kid's lament.
Bloody Good Machines You Aussies Built, Although, You Had the U.S. Versions of the Chevrolet Impala, Built there, along with Pontiac, Cadillac, Maybe Oldsmobile, as For Ford, the Falcon was Started in Australia for the 1960 Model Year, it Came to us in the States in 59 for the 60 Model Year, & was Fords 1st American Smaller Cars for 60, & Lasted Until New Years Day 1970, when Ford Stopped Building them here in the U.S. & Replaced them with the Maverick (1969-77), but you Aussies Kept them in Production Until After the 21st Century.
As for Chrysler Models Built in Aussie Land, Y'all had the Big Dodges, The Bloody Chargers that were Different that the American Chargers in the 70's, the Aussie Built Dodge Phoenix's Y'all Built Down There, were here in America Known as the Plymouth Fury's.
it's Weird, but it's the Australian Way of Life with your Bloody Holden's, & Aussie Built Chevy's, & Fords!
Yer it was called the Falcon but it changed every couple of years in design, we designed all our own falcons up until the last one, we also built and designed the territory which was an SUV based around the falcon platform, Ford have been built in Australia since the T model rolled of the production line at the disused wool-store in 1925, we produced all our own iron and as far as I know they were completely Australian made. we made our own cars before Tarrant got involved in building Fords.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarrant_automobile
Discovered we were able to manufacture on a grand scale and then forgot it again after company management fled to countries with cheaper wages, who would have thought?
Incidentally, those Ford Popular utilities ("Bandt utes") were disgustingly bad. My uncle had one in a moment of weakness. The engine was so gutless, that with any sort of load on, top gear could only be used down hill. But not a steep hill. Very poor brakes. Very poor reliability. He usually had at least two or three "failure to proceed" each year. He preferred to start it from cold with the crank handle as it had only a small low compression engine easy to turn, and using the starter motor cold would rapidly cause starter motor failure. What you would expect, really, given that it was essentially a pre-war English dirt cheap car.
So, while a farmer might have wrote and asked for it, no farmer could put up with it.
I like 'olden, him my favourite.
Holdens and Ford and Chrislers made in Australia were bullet proof.
But not rust proof
@@frankwatt745
Kidding, Frank? I still own a 1965 Valiant AP6 PV v8 over 50 years and no rust.
I'm impressed, they pretty high psychological sell
Look as USA trained
My first car at age 17: FJ Holden; now there's one in the National Museum.
How many people do you think have stuck their you know whats, in the car exhaust pipes??
The add was actually a copy of an add for Chevrolet cars. Not even that was Aussie.
As usual people bag the P76 which was actually way ahead of its time and a really good car. Just the parent company was in dire financial straits at the time. There was also a lot of sabotage to make sure it never succeeded like it should have done.
I remember Mad Max was in Australia
Now he's prime minister.
As good as modern cars are, I doubt if the average modern (2024) sedan could put up with that 10,000 mile torture trail.
The P76 , the car you could put a 44 gallon drum in & shut the boot , they don't makem like tnhat any more,
Fukn oath u could...best drive in car...bar chev impala lol🇦🇺🤓😂🤣🤟
Thank God for that!
Is that Leonard Teale doing the voice-over in Football Meatpies Kangaroos and Holden Cars ad?
After a FORD PREFECT, my Dad went to a Holden EK......then an FE .
BIGGLES, Did he go backwards? FE was before EK.
👨💻The dirt road in our street 60s -70s b4 bitchumen was laid the POT HOLES were so Big !😳HOW BIG ?🤷♂️ a volkswagen full of young teen GIRLS disappeared down a pothole and came back as women 😆👩🔬that's how deep they were haa! then we got a B/W TV 1975 & seen countdown just as i was growing up 14yr old wheew 🥇👍🐨🦘
I was waitin for landcruiser Toyota v8 which conquered australia
I owned an fc Holden my mates had fj s and fc Holden picked them up for peanuts those were th days lived them spare parts cost peanuts n easy to fix
5:21 avg speed for the 5 day marathon
The Holden broughm was the best Holden
The "FX" or"48-215" is before my time but I thought it was known as the 48-218. I remember when speed limits were imposed (in Vic anyway). It had been open slather so long as you could prove it was safe to do so but if it was unsafe the limit was 50 mph. First a 70 mph limit was imposed but shortly after it was reduced to 60 mph which was closely followed by the metric conversion to 100 kph (62mph). I remember the "P76" as a 15 year old. I nicknamed it the mobile wedge at the time but in truth it was probably before its time and now they have a bit of a cult following.
Oh how I remember the "Sin Bins", always wanted one, never had one lol.
I got to mention 12:16, to see this add (which I remember very well) gives me a hell of a chuckle considering the controversy of obesity these days, I'm only pointing the difference in time. Great viewing.
306 CHAMPION Definately 48-215.
*306 CHAMPION* Ah yes, the P76, the only vehicle at the time, where one could lay a 44 gallon (205litre), drum on it's side in the boot (trunk), and close the lid................The drum, as depicted in one of the car's advertising stunts is empty, as there's no way you could manhandle a full one in, short of rolling it out of a Bobcat's bucket, and pity the dead drop to the boot floor and how the rear suspension would hold up. Then of course, to unload, would see the boot lid removed, and grapple hooks hook under the top edge, hmm, no, second thoughts, I reckon I'll have that 44 of Anti-Freeze delivered, lol................ Anti-Freeze, by volume is far heavier that petrol. Actually, that advertisement for the P76 at the time, was just to show it's humongous boot capacity. Thanks for the memories...
The regular Holden was the 48-215, the Ute was the 50-2106 and I'm sure there were other designations for the Business model, Taxi model....
As a teen in the 70s, I had an EH Holden
As a teen in the 60s I pranged Dad's EH Holden 😁
Wayne Hope, you must be a Newcastle boy as you sourced this and other "Our Century" episodes from Station NBN-Newcastle. I'm originally from Stockton.
Talking of Newcastle, when I was a teenager there was the Newcastle song with the FJ sitting outside the Parthenon milk bar in Hunter Street.
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Well that explains EVERYTHING!
@@ahorsewithnoname643 With Normie and 4 mates all
sitting in the front seat.
Our Australia. All gone now. Why did we let it happen?
Ask the mongrel govt.
How many people remember the Hartnett cars that were being built in the no longer used Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation factory at Fisherman's Bend in Melbourne in the early 1950s ? There were to be a range of models from a 2 cylinder town car, 4 cylinder family sedan, and a large 6 cylinder car. Very advanced engineering at the time. A very few of the 2 cylinder models were made before GMH contrived to stop Hartnett's material supply.
I remember the LLoyd Hartnett, its most outstanding feature
was no reverse gear, no doubt LLoyd planned to rectify this later.
GMs actions are reminiscent of todays Big2 supermarkets.
I had an FJ. Terrible car. So much fun.
I remember the days when most people traveled by reliable, affordable public transport simply because they couldn't afford to buy and run a car.
Ray Martin and alot of others would be so sad to see what has happened now.
Ray Martin is still alive. You're talking of him as if he were dead.
@@neilforbes416 Ray Martin is alive? I thought he was like Agro,
only brought out of his box when needed.
@@ivanolsen8596 LOL
1:35
His name was Lew Bandt not Brandt
" jimmy Barnes owns and drives " a fj Holden "! 😮
I dunno, seems odd that Australian entrepreneurs, manufacturers, engineers and inventors seemed to 'miss' the incredible opportunity and popular need for the universal drivetrain-chassis versatility of the Toyata Land Cruiser's platform practicality for multiple body-styles re: jeep, station-wagon and pickup. The Holden Ute seemed to be JUST practial enough to inhibitthe development of an Ausie 4X4 utility alternative. So when Japanese Toyota Landcruisers became available at at an affordable cost and in large numbers, with an established parts industry, there was a large pent-up demand market that Ausies never realized. Possibly, the demand was not enough to support developing a whole new brand just to satisfy a projected domestic niche-market.
But it seems, Holden COULD have added a more utilitarian jeep 4X4 version to their lineup. By building a foreign alternative to British Landrover and American Willys Jeep as slightly upscale light-truck with offroad capability version, a 'bush truck', Japan found and filled a HUGE export trade. Too bad Australia couldn't have done something similiar. Failure of GM corporate imagination, or management reluctance to take a gamble?
starmanskye. I have seen a couple of 4wd Falcon utes with high ground clearance. I don't know who made them though.
@@bossdog1480 They were converted using Willys parts, cant
remember who did the conversion, Holden did a ute too.
Neither took off, a shame, the owners loved them.
@@ivanolsen8596 I saw an FC converted to a 4wd about 40 years ago in Bunbury. I don't know how they got it registered over there with the anti modified car Nazis, but it was around for a while. Looked 'diferent'.
@@bossdog1480 I think 40 years ago the Bunbury Council would
have handled the licensing of vehicles, before the nazis took over.
The councils checked the vehicles themselves and if they thought
it safe and roadworthy it got licensed.
Now there are guidelines for mods, then it has to scrutenised
by a so called engineer, hardly worth the bother anymore.
BTW, I saw a 4WD Rolls Royce in QLD a few years ago,
it came from Rainbow Beach.
@@ivanolsen8596 The Nazis were already well established back then too. If you had an old Holden and it had to go over the Pits they would take a large crowbar and try to drive it through the floor. If it went through the car was only good for spare parts after that. That's why I was surprised that the 4WD FC was able to pass registration.
The checking station is long gone. It used to be on the main street down near where Drooly's Pizza used to be. They used to work strictly to the book and you had to line up early or you wouldn't get seen that day. Many a good old car was denied rego by those p..ks. The GOOD thing with WA regos was that once a car was rego'ed it didn't have to be inspected each year like in NSW. The cops would always look your car over when they pulled you over and if they didn't like what they saw you got a sticker. That meant a trip to the Pits and if the car had ANY faults it would fail. In those days we never had much money so a lot of old cars never made it out alive.
"Our luv affair with the KAARRRR".......aka CAR !
Go Away Ray!
Well worth watching.....v. interesting.
Sorry--but I am sure the "utility" or "ute" was not an Australian invention--American Dodge and Chevrolet predated it with the "express" body--later known as the "pickup" truck
A pick up truck is NOT a Ute
I’m old enough to know you never go back and ultimately we wouldn’t want to overall anyway. But gee I miss the days when you could drive with some freedom in cars made in Australia.
We've gone from: football, meat pies, kangaroos and Holden cars to: politically correct, dumb arses, AFL women, no Holden cars...My beautiful Australia, WTF happened?
Inept, useless, treasonous politicians is what happened. Too concerned with the welfare of every country but Australia and its people. Labor and Liberal have totally screwed this country.
@Mick
At least I'm not alone... WTF - Fluoridation ?
I still remember the old Australia. Lived there for five years, from Europe, but I ended up settling in Canada. I often think of the old days and no matter where you live, the world has changed fast the last 20 years.
No speed limits ,No seatbelts ,No alcohol limits ,0.8-0.5-0.2-0.0 , No car industry!
lol well said. but better not say too much. FFS last time I saw some aussie guy say literally the same thing about the change in times, feminism etc etc he got ripped a new you know what badly by women AND simp males about being a sad such and such (saying it nicely lol) that was just mad and sad and over all didn't know what he was talking about apparently.
the PC crap will forever run things now... I am scared to think really.
3:59 Four years before the start of the (20th) Century? That would make it 1897 as the 20th Century began in 1901.
@Neil Forbes what's so iconic about that
@Neil Forbes of course everyone would know that LOL
@neilforbes416 yes something like that
Ray always leaves out something , We were a closed country , if it wasnt an English /Commonwealth car it attracted big Tariff Taxes , the original 215 , Fx , came from GM Canada , may of been designed in Detroit , but left Canada ,
beautiful recommendation miss thompson