@@NkosiMunjiZulu nothing you just said is true . Literally nothing. DNA also says Jesus was white with straight hair. It’s not hard for Indian to trace their lineage all the records are available. You are literally just making up shit
Firstly we aren’t ALL 80% African, to claim that is incredibly incorrect. Secondly, you’re attempting to erase us, our heritage, our culture and struggle here in the U.S.. Our percentage of African, European and Native American are all varying. All of the Africans who I’ve met tell me that they wouldn’t even consider me black but when I’m around my people, they KNOW me. There are Africans at my job (I work in healthcare) who believe that I am Hispanic 😂 I haven’t told them yet but what they do is play “they not like us” a lot and pretend to be us. We have documents on some of our people Passing as white. Some of us, like myself and my family you can see our NATIVE blood in us, plus there is something called the DAWES rolls. What you guys want to do is pick and choose who will fit with you guys and SEPARATE the rest of us from our own people. We are our own “tribe” who share the ancestors that you guys sold. I think we have more in common with the “COLORED” people in Africa, I was told by Africans that, that is what I’d be considered. Many of our ancestors were mulatto, including myself and family but with 2 black (mulatto) parents and grandparents. Yes we started from Africa! And I am proud of that. My ancestors fought to stay alive so that we could be here although they went through terrible things and YOU guys threw them away. Please know that we are our own people. Don’t disrespect us, take care of Africa
Our ancestors didn’t suffer for 400 years for us to be lost. With suffering comes strength. Also you will never be lost if you let God lead the way anyway. ❤️💚🖤
Black American history more nuanced than that. Our foreparents was lost to a culture based on free independent people culture. That whole culture was based on a chattel system and the harsh reality of the plantation system. They couldn't be a " people" all they way. We still in the same chattel culture, just a 20th century version.
We are not letting YAH lead the way as a community. As a matter of fact, silent, Generation civil rights leadership gave up God and church, being the backbone of the black community for government and social integration. We living extra liberal and dishonest as a people.
When Africans say we don't know what country we come from. We have to emphasize the point that none of the countries that exist in Africa today existed when the trans-Atlantic slave trade happened. So, we don't trace the African side of our ancestry to any country in Africa, because those countries did not exist and were created during and post colonization. It's that simple.
@@jacklyneverage3881 the slave trade was on a small scale, look up the Emblem of America, it will show you who was here before Columbus. It was, and still is black ppl💁🏾💯🪶🪶……🎥📰👎🏾
It depends on what your definition of lost is, if you look at the Bible and what they say is lost, WE THAT. If you look at possessing a certain knowledge of economics, politics, healthy eating, mate selection, community cohesion, etc we lost to alot of things.
No disrespect to my Caribbean folk but...there isn't much to gain from being attached to Caribbean folk like there is being associated to the group of people that influence the world like FBA.
Also those in Haiti. Haitians say they ARE HAITIANS, Jamaicans say they are JAMAICANS! Why don’t they talk crap to them??? It’s literally like CRABS IN A BARREL. They want us to praise them and ignore ourselves. Credit them and deny accomplishments here in the U.S. most black Americans AREN’T even 100% AFRICAN! We go by the OnE drop rule here.
The real question is why do they always have our name in their mouth cuz we for damn sure don't have theirs and Ours because we simply don't care about them like that😅
No Black person who’s ancestors where slaves in the United States,The Caribbean, Central America, South America can say where their African Ancestors are from I did the dna test im mixed with 5 or 6 different west African countries. The earliest ancestor I found was born in 1795 in North Carolina he was on the 1870 census he’s like my 4th or 5th paternal great grandfather. Black people in the new world was stolen by Europeans or sold into slavery by other Africans. Many Blacks in the UK are what 3rd or 4th generation. You can’t compare 400 years to what 70 something years
Actually, they can. Tell them we are from kingdoms, empires, and cheifdoms that don't exist anymore b/c their behinds worked with the colonizers to destroy them. LOL! Case closed.
@croixfadas and SOME black Americans practice the same, but it's called Hoodoo, stemming from Kongo/Central Africa and Nigeria, specifically Yoruba, Igbo, Fon & Ewe tribes. However, this is only part of who we are. We, in fact, do have lineage in the US that predates the enslavement of Africans. The colonizers did what they do best, and that's lie, deceive & re-write. Many of us copper colored deep, melinated people were re-classified during that time. We didn't all come on slave ships. Melinated people have been circumventing this globe before the colonizer knew what a boat and compass was.
@@humblewon5156peace My copper colored Brother what evidence can I go research that suggests that Hoodoo from the South of North America originated in Kongo Central Africa?
@@humblewon5156 Not to mention the similarities of San tarira Spanish speaking indigenous people South America/The Islands and Ifa(Yuroba)west African And Obeyah in the Caribbean
Guys, there are tribes in America that are Black - literally. The Coharie, Lumbee, Catawba, Biloxi, Monacan, Tuscarora, Manahoac, Sissipahaw, Santee, Cheraw, Peedee, and the list goes on. Their descendants today are literal Black people.
@@azborderlands Hey, so not everyone ❤️ - melungeon is the word the French gave them for “mixed”, but that doesn’t apply to everyone. The Eastern Cherokee, Waccamaw, Haliwa, Shinnecock, Narragansett’s and many of the other eastern tribes (even out west) are just Black - no Melungeon attachment.
As a southeastern woodland Indian Huguenot I can assure you that our enemies made war upon us wherever we were found. We are Israelites ie Shemites and we ruled the world. Most of the early socalled colonists were Israelites ie Black people from Europe who were fleeing persecution or were forcibly deported. Always study history from primary sources instead out of the mouths of others in order to dodge the hijack. It's not a coincidence that we be who we be. We are the civilzers and culture bearers throughout history wherever we find modernity. Shalom from the House of DAVID and Marlborough 👊🏿🕎⚔️🏹🪶🌽💜🙏🏿
Your ancestors being born in America and having to fight to be acknowledged as a citizen is crazy to me. Especially when yall still fighting for equality in 2024. Why won’t yall get the message. Fighting yall entire existence in this country.
@@Blacklabeldand why won't you get the message that these same colonizers have not given y'all true independence, hand picking leaders to continue their dirty work, orchestrating wars and poverty, causing many of y'all to flee to these same 1st world countries y'all tell us we're not welcome in. Y'all stay trying to sweep around our front door, when ther is massive piles of trash around yours.
@@BlacklabeldLMFAO, you’re going to act like people aren’t fighting EACH OTHER in Africa right this very moment? And have been for years. I think it’s sadder in all black countries you can’t trust each other to not have corrupt leadership. Your OWN people are being mistreated in a black country. South Africans are dragging Nigerians over Miss SA. You people are so disingenuous.
@@BlacklabeldUm, no. Not all or most gaf about being a citizen in a foreign corporation that isn’t native to this soil. This issue was having certain rights in public affairs. Black Americans had their own everything yet some chose to be involved in the foreign system set up on the soil. Some of our people are private citizens which isn’t the same as a public citizen.
The dude in the throwback is too emotional. Edit: Have you ever noticed that when you describe their country's history, they start bragging about the Wakanda package they left behind? If Congo was so great, you would be in Congo.😂
@@NkosiMunjiZulu Cheap material doesn't mean critical materials. Those devices existed before trade for materials to make them more efficient. Btw, you can thank black American inventors such as Henry T. Sampson, Jesse Russell, and George Carruthers, for that technology.
Many congolese disporas are living in Congo. Maybe you should use the energy of commenting on social media and focus more on what happening in America. With the division, corruption all the way to up too the supreme court. And the recent shooting of innocent black women sonya massey. What are you doing as an american to fix this?
It’s crazy how so many of yall can watch this interview and still come out believing the interviewer was putting in work. lol he embarrassed BA. Kept throwing shots about things that didn’t even make sense. Such as “ You fled your country “. lol
@@NkosiMunjiZulu you keep saying DNA test...many humans have portions of African DNA...so a Filipino isn't allowed to say where their from because they have a percentage of African DNA?
The African diaspora NEVER say Black people from New Guinea, Fiji, Australia or even the Garifuna people are from Africa! But when it comes to Black Americans I don’t care how much evidence you show them Tht The majority of Black Americans were already here and the few Africans that did get shipped to the USA eventually over time mixed in with the Blacks tht were already here and there was an ethnogenesis
@@shadowswest9612 if a white guy says this I guarantee you will believe it 100%. Don’t take my word for it do your own research and I bet you you come up with the same answers I have.
@@yessi3090 African culture is based on collectivism. Community orientated, respect for elders, Extended family is important as well as Ubuntu mindset. African culture is extremely similar to Asian culture.
Culture in my prospective is ..when i have a indigenous language.not English frm my colonizers...tribe names ...tribe dances...tribe festivals...not adding on white man's invention nd i call it culture nd am not trying to be offending but if i start speaking my language u couldnt understand..so i speak the white man's language to simply for u my bro ❤❤
@HolyBoyi you say this in English bc no one will understand you otherwise on an app made by white ppl on an invention made by white ppl, not dressed in your tribal clothes posing in a photo not imvented by your culture. Without the phone, car, computer, or internet, you would still be sending messages via what.. horses, smoke signals.. the village's fast runners...?
@HolyBoyi but we have all those. In we talk with dialects so real americans know where we from based off that. We don't have to add to white people. Some things we invented on our own. We have our own! Some misconceptions about us.Stop watching entertainment on us in expecting us to be what you watched.We have culture in you speak english for white people, not us.
Why in the hell aren't they telling the Aboriginal of Australia they don't know where they come from? Or The Melanated Chinese that they are lost? Or the Brazilians ( the biggest number of enslaved people went to Brazil) that they need to know what tribe they come from? Why the fixation on us?
@@HolyBoyi Actually they/you are fixated on telling us about our history and lineage because your colonizer told you about our history. I wish I would believe what I'm told by the oppressor class. I've researched beyond what I was taught with formal education and my family's oral history is worth far more than the bs you were taught!!
Aboriginal Australians did not get enslaved from Africa mam. Yall stay acting like the slave trade from Africa to America never happened which is the only way someone can make this weird comment.
This. Imagine if they had the people that they sold actually fighting for their countries and/or tribes like we did for America. They want us to come help them so they can be more stable like we are. We stood on business like Adonis said and still to this day! I really think it’s all jealousy. They act like we still don’t have it hard. We just not going for it anymore.
Black Americans have the second most millionaires in America as a group Black Americans invented over fifty thousand inventions no other group of Black achieved more than Black Americans
Congo was named after the tribe kikongo who were the founders of the Kongo kingdom pre colonialism. Maybe you should have Google that before typing rubbish.
@alphonsomorris793 It matters. Don't tell Americans who they are if you don't truly know who you are. Africans don't even know what they were called before they were colonized. They just repeat what their oppressors told them. I'm FBA, not African. Part Yahmasee, part Mubundu, part Igboo, and Moorish. We became a new ethnic group, which is FBA. White American immigrated here.
@@PrinceCharlesLeeRay ourselves as the name Congo literally comes from our native languages. You do know the majority of African countries actually renamed their countries after colonisation right? This is why people say black Americans are ignorant and don't know where they come from.
@@takionjose6657 africa has nothing bro your land is ran by every else and it’s supposed to be your language they call it a grave site on a systematic playing field black Americans paved the way for every other minority without us you couldn’t live in London freely
@@Blacklabeld Actually Africans Sold us.. Too Europeans Not even at all… 1957-1960-1965…Civil rights acts black Americans are the reason any other group can come too America.
The fact that he said murder based on skin color is/was not a thing in Africa is CRAZY! Cuz was that not what happened in Rwanda with the Hutu’s and Tusi’s??????? Literally light skin vs dark skin.
@@croixfadas I thought they were colonized by Belgium but whatever. That doesn’t excuse the fact that there were murders based on skin color and classism.
DNA test we will see fake indian pretiandians you a like me you are an African from Angola ❤ anchient Kindon of Ndongo. Do you know that their are 50 milion AfroBrazilians in Brazil? and Brazil culture is more African culture than outher thing.
What's crazy is that only an estimated 3% even came to North America and Europe. Also there was a great deal of African descendantness throughout the West hundreds of yrs before Columbus. This is all so well documented
Jamaicans, Haitians, Brazilians etc all came from the same boat and dropped off in different places in the middle passage. We all been in these areas for over 500 years. Why Jamaicans etc can claim their countries and the cultures/food they created but black Americans can’t? Why because these people are jealous that we are in a first world country.
@@Arias74-i4g why would we care you come from a first world country? Its more like nobody says that to Caribbean or Jamaicans because they come from a predominant black country and have their own government while black Americans don't. That's why nobody says that to Carribbean. They have their own country.
I'm a black American, and I feel like these conversations can be divisive. 😢 we really need to just learn to respect each other cultures and work together. Same roots, just different branches.❤❤❤❤❤
“Black” Indians have lived in The Western hemisphere since time immemorial. The pyramids here are older, the people(originally “black”) and cultures/geography plants and animals are older/original versions. Black Indians were not spawned or created as a result of Africans coming to the Western Hemisphere during the Trans-Atlantic slave trademixing in with native people of the Western Hemisphere region. (also known as Native American Indians) Native or Indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere (also known asIndians)didnot refer to themselves or their ancestors as Indian. (We use the word Indian since most people are accustomed to this title) The word Indian, Red Man and Native American, are European colonized terms. Native or indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere, referred to themselves by way of tones, vibrations of expression. Your spirit said who and what you were. The name given to you was based upon what type of spirit you possessed. 4. All native or indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere (aka Indians) possessed different physiological features. Hair texture, bone structure, and skin tone varied.
Proud to be FBA, we lost, but he fled from his country..We lost but there is 54 countries in Africa and they are the poorest continent in the world. We lost but they have tribal genocide. We lost but their government they put in buys villas In Italy, 8 million dollar plus homes around the world and buy cars and jewelry while their people literally starve to death but we lost..The disrespect is great but "We gonna Be Alright" because we are FBA who were sold to our captives by our brothers and r ped, brutalized by our captures, babies used to feed alligators and skinned to make shoes for the masters family ...But we are lost..fix and find your house before you tell me a proud FBA where are house is located. ..Thank you and have a good day
Black Americans fled back to Africa and Created two countries (Liberia, and Sierra Leone) so by your logic you guys fled. They are considered poor because majority don't live a eurocentric lifestyle??? And black Americans are the poorest group in the US. The US literally comitted many genocides towards black people and native bro are you seriously forgetting that???? And you government doesn't do the same thing, there's a reason why Monaco, Andorra, and Guam are practically rich playgrounds while a good chunk of the US is still poor whilst somehow being considered rich🤔 you guys build these false narrative to try demonise Africa, yes many people were sold into slavery, but if you did more research that was only a small amount of people actually sold into slavery the rest were kidnapped. Its crazy how you try to justify your hate for Africans rather than the ancestors that captured yours and abused yours for hundreds of years. I have zero hate towards Americans my ancestors been through similar, but some of you guys try your hardest to being racist and its just sad tbh🤷🏾♂️ Saying this as someone whos West African and Caribbean who does appreciate your culture and people. Fix up with this bad narrative and wake up and see what these kinds of videos do. They cause division, he's gonna say we mention you guys when theres videos of you guys also mentioning us as well. Its an agenda people want us to fall into and we need to realise that as they are winning in division. Much love though, God bless🙏🏾
They don’t tell Australian, Chinese, etc that they are Africans… they are quick to tell us because WE THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THAT! if we wasn’t lit we wouldn’t even be on their mind!
Do people not realize that Ancient Americans were negro people? The American Indians were classified as Negro, Colored, and now African American on the US Census. They took our heritage, culture, and identity. Black Americans are the original people of the Americas. Just ask grandma. The American Indians are the. African Americans. They wyt washed history; our ancestors are the original people of America. Black people weren't just in Africa; they were on all continents first and are the original people everywhere. Do your research fam.
@@tobyadowye5537the original American Indians are what they labeled negro. American Indians were called negros in colonial times. That's just one reclassification they brought to confuse the people. They pushed the dark skinned Indians out and placed many inside that are not the true people. Large majority have roots here in America. On every continent they pushed the Original people out of there land and they tell them they're from Africa.
‼️What they fail to realize is that FBA have always had strong family ties. The Family Reunion didn’t exist until WE created it. My family has t-shirts with our entire family tree broken down on the back of the shirts. Let’s be clear; we have RECORDS! Grandfathers, Grandfather…. 🙄😒the nerve! They still haven’t explained how KNOWING WHERE YOU COME FROM benefits you. If it was such a benefit then why in the hell aren’t they in their homeland’s!😂✅
Black Americans are mixed with multiple African ethnicities in addition to multiple European ethnicities and aboriginal American. Our bloodlines have foundations right here. Idk what they don't understand about that lol
Your ignorance is startling considering we are literally in the information age. We are Israelites ie Shemites ie Negros and this is why we were made war upon and enslaved. We are the civilzers and culture bearers throughout history wherever we find modernity. Who else but gods could build the modern world and its wealth while enduring the greatest crime in history? Shalom 👊🏿
I'm so glad you're schoolin him and others about the misconception of native Americans, they weren't all light people. historical records show that European explorers noted how the indigenous people were dark
The fact that he can’t name the first president of the Congo proves he doesn’t know where he’s from. You cannot claim to be from a place you weren’t born and raised in. End of discussion
@channingdavis5541 There is a genocide going on and the president is a puppet of the west, that never says anything. Calling him a coward for fleeing is super fucked up. Millions of people die every year because America arm mercenaries to steal the ressources and displace people.
I’ve literally always had this conviction from the 6th or 7th grade that not all blacc Americans are from Africa. I remember telling my mom that and she got so mad bc she was taught the white man’s history. As I’ve grown up and researched more I’ve learned more more about how many blacc Americans were here well before slavery and even with slavery niggas been here for 12+ generations! I’ve literally traced my mother’s mother linage bacc to the 1500s we are blacc American and know exactly where we’re from!!!! I shared my findings about my mom’s side of the family history with them and they finally are less ignorant to the truth that they are BLACC AMERICANS
I’m a big chahta Indian 😤 I can name my grandparents back to the 1700s one line back goes back farther than that. These people don’t even know when the colonizers got here they compared us to the Ethiopians (1524 Giovanni de Verrazano for the Carolina Indians, Bartholomew Gosnold described the Maine Indians as black swart complexion, etc throughout the Americas) at the end of the day they not like us
There was no such country as the Congo. This ignorant man from the country of Congo stated we don't know what country we come from. Well, all the countries that exist in Africa today were formed post the trans Atlantic slave trade. It's asinine to claim a country or different countries that exist today in Africa that our African ancestors were never from in the first place. That's the point Adonis is making. When it comes to our African ancestors, they were taken from UNIFIED KINGDOMS, EMPIRES, or CHIEFDOMS that don't exist anymore and they were taken all across West, West-Central, and Central Africa. It was a period of disintergration, upheaval, people running to places or locations for safety to prevent being captured by slave raiders (dislocation), and wars during the trans-Atlantic Slave trade. Therefore, it makes no sense to trace our African ancestors to individual countries that our ancestors did not come from, especially when they came from SEVERAL REGIONS NOT ONE. It covers everyone in our ancestry to mention REGIONS vs. COUNTRIES. Continental Africans and their immigrant children sound very unintelligent when making that statement. Just dense.
@@jacklyneverage3881 that region of Congo and Angola was a major source of slaves, during the last 100 years of the trade there was a civil war that lead to half of the Ba-Kongo being enslaved. The Congo region ethnic groups have also impacted your culture in folklore and language. Brer Rabbit is a folkloric figure descended from the folklore of the Bantus of West Central Africa, the word Gumbo is also descended from words used for Okra stews in the Congo Angola regions.
@@jacklyneverage3881 DNA test will tell you if you are from Angola 🇦🇴 or RDC 🇨🇩 DNA test Angola (Umbundo people,Kimbundo people,Bakongo people,etc...) you will know witch people in my country 🇦🇴 you are from
@@jacklyneverage3881 Nope it's easy to name countries yall Ancestors come from because you can identify ethnicities that were impacted by the slave trade and that includes the Bantus of West Central Africa, the Igbo via the Bight of Biafra, the Akan via the Gold Coast and others.
@@jacklyneverage3881American don't let ignorance make u seem dumb yet you are intelligent....kongo was there before america ..drc is aname given to the territory of the people of congo by the white guy who found him self in the kingdom...so if he was asked were have stolen this he could say kongo..then its was branded to drc
White American trace their roots to England, Ireland, Holland, France, Spain, etc and have always had a culturally connection to Europe and were aware of their European ancestry. America has only existed 248 years, so saying you're just American, is neglecting thousands of years of history and culture. The cultural connection should be stronger amongst African people (melanated people) , but some native Africans feel that Americans and Caribbeans don't make enough effort to study African cultures and they can sometimes be more ignorant than Europeans.
Lol wtf no we fuckin dont. I mean maybe a little tiny bit but White Americans ABSOLUTELY Identify with this country far above anywhere else. Idk where tf you heard that from
IF THEY COULD ONLY UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD SEE THAT EVEN DIVIDED WE CAN STILL BE ONE AND STROONG AS A UNIT ONE OF THE FIRST THING WHY BLACKS ARE NOT FREE AMERICA TODAY IS THE NUMBER OF BLACKS COMPARED TO WHITES i DON'T LIKE OBAMA BUT ONE THING HES RIGHT ON IS THAT " UNITED WE STAND " AND WE STAND A BIIIG CHANCE TO FREE OURSELVES FROM MENTAL RIOTS AND LIKE SOMEONE SAYS NONE BUT OURSELVES CAN FREE OUR MINDS !!! SO LET'S PUT WORDS INTO ACTION
I understand both sides. Our (you and him) lineage starts in Africa. We are natives of our respective country. This is a divisive conversation. We speak down to each other instead of learning from each other and piecing together our history.
@@fairieduzt That is misinformation. The doesn’t align with slavery historical data nor the “Out of Egypt Theory.” This make believe stuff without a solid source is nonsense.
@@daohezone5176 Good for you everyone's lineage is different because of Chattel Slavery. Black Americans lineage and the start of its ethno genesis is America. It shows you didn't understand anything I said but carry on 😪😒🙄
Us Blacks from Louisiana and the Gulf Coast; S.C and the Low Country definitely acknowledge, respect and represent our African ancestry and cultural retentions in food, traditions and language (Louisiana Creole and Gullah)
@ListwaLanyap1760 My peoples from Thibodaux, Lafourche. But I'm a 7th Ward HARDHEAD. New Orleans is full of African retention. Gumbo, Jambalaya, Cala, Secondlines, Jazz Funerals that Bamboula beat we play everywhere is real.They just don't know.
He kept saying I feel this is true, and when you hit him with facts. He couldn't take it, especially on the census. I traced my family back to the 1800s on Ancestry with the census records. He is the lost one.
If we came back to the countries where our dna or ancestry says..They would treat us like outsiders or call us derogatory names….And still would say that we lost and yet and still claim our achievements
American black culture is definitely a big influence on black people around the globe but wasn't the only influence. Jamaican and Carribbean culture was the biggest influence in the uk for black people by far it's not even close. Africans in the UK had a hard time 70s, 80s ,90s and even earlier 00s because being African wasn't kl. everyone wanted to be Jamaican and the small amount of people that tried to act American were clowned crazy. African people learned to themselves openly and now African culture is massive, also Nowadays American culture is much more widely accepted as well. Even though i don't agree 100 percent with Adonis I respect and like the content.
@@buds198 England colonized several Caribbean Islands it was natural for the people to migrate to England. The man had no intention of listening for understanding because he kept dismissing Adonis when he told them the truth about America. He will be back on his podcast giving out misinformation because he shows his ignorance about Black Americans as something to be proud of.
What I can't understand is where is all this smoke for Jamaicans and other Caribbean people, why are we singled out when we are all a part of the diaspora? Jamaicans are allowed to simply be Jamaicans with no push back, same for all the other islands.
Yet Jamaicans flock to the US to try and be like us. Also, British culture has always been inundated by black American culture. Period! And in the US, you couldn’t even listen to Jamaican music, or anything associated with anything Jamaican, and not get laughed at. Black American culture has been influential around the whole world. And definitely not with just black people. Everybody!
@@LorLon954 what are you talking about? Since the windrush Carribbean music has been part of black UK community , most of the biggest artists came to England and recorded music as the labels that were signing them were predominately based in the uk .
39:55 The Dude brought up an issue on a podcast but can't defend his position. I believe people like him throughout the diaspora are willfully ignorant when it comes to us Black Americans.
Funny how when you were asking him the definition of ignorance he was describing himself to the T 🤣😂😂 these jokes write themselves. This is a perfect example of your average African who ran all over the world, but has something to say about the people who stand ten toes down!!
im not fimilar with dr umar and im having a converation with someone who had their own perspective and we articulated out perspectives for the sake of clarity also DR umar is way out of my league
Talking to umar would be a waste of your time as he a Pan-african scammer that repeats himself 3times and gets perverted. Plus he a Caribbean tether that's worse then a jealous African.
Tethers just be lying, Mutombo didnt win any championships😂😅 hes not mentioned in any conversations when the great biggs of the NBA are mentioned, hes known for blocks and that finger wag.... THATS IT!!!!
This debate was terrible. At the end of the day, thanks to Ancestry DNA and 23 and Me, Black Americans can find out which African country our ancestors were stolen from. We honor and respect their existence. We have multiple generations that have been in America for CENTURIES and literally built this country and made it possible for their descendants to have the equality and opportunities we have today. We’re AMERICAN. 🇺🇸
Ya'll those DNA tests are made to keep the lie going about black people. Tell them they came from Africa. We gotta keep them in the dark about the TRUTH that the AMERICAS is where most of them originated from. Who's behind these DNA TEST KITS????? Ya'll betta WAKE UP! Has any of your ancestors told you about a slave ship th
I get you bro but it is belittling the work of black people internationally though to say that they had no role to play in gaining their own rights and that it's all the work of African Americans. What about apartheid? What about Haiti? I could go on
If it wasn’t for BA they wouldn’t have had those opportunities in the first place for someone who saying he’s wearing a jersey cause of a player he wouldn’t have gotten that chance if it wasn’t for BA who pushed the color barrier to give that play a opportunity to play
Se não fosse pelos Africanos e aliados soviéticos 🇦🇴🇲🇿🇷🇺🇨🇺🇿🇲🇿🇼 os AfroAmericanos hoje seriam escravoz. Fomos nós que pegamos em armas soviéticas e lutamos contra os Americanos e ingleses e alemães? Sabias disso que a União Soviética junto com os Africanos estavam a preparar um ataque nuclear contra os USA?
It’s sad that’s this is even a conversation. It’s sad that some would believe that a group with over 45 million people are lost because of a small percentage of that group chooses to say they’re native or Hebrew or whatever else. When the large majority or us melanated Americans know and understand our history. The impact that we’ve made on the history of the world culturally and scientifically. I refuse to entertain the ignorance someone chooses to have about our history. I love our African cousins but for me, all the groups of blacks in the western hemisphere that are descendants of the Trans Atlantic Slave trade, have some of the most influential cultures in the world, food, music, dance, take your pick. No one on this side of the planet has time to concern themselves with the happenings of another’s country. There is too much going on in our day to day here on this side of the world. Although we are supposed to be descendants of Africans who were sold into slavery. After 500 years we are not you and yet we know where we are from. Hundreds of years of blood, sweat, tears and torture. I would say that it’s 100% disrespectful to say you’re not apart of something your family helped build up. I’m a proud American who happens to be a descendant of slavery with a majority of black blood in me….. it is what it is
These two people are ignorant. One is from Africa (Congo), the other is from America (US). Yes, slavery happened and people were brought from Africa. They need me to school both of them. 😂😂😂
actually you coming on to someones comments call people ignorant because we are mature enough to have a informative conversation to have clarity is truly embarrassing and ignorant in it self --- stop projecting do better
@@adoniscrashboomyou have been ignorant as well though, you like to claim that africans can’t trace their history just because the country wasn’t formed yet. I and many others can go way back hundreds of years as well. We are all one people with different unique cultures
Lol…. Put a uniform on and get in the trenches and when they start shooting youll know immediately who your allies are. The other people wearing the same uniform….. some people black and white just can’t accept that but its true
My family NEVER CAME OFF A SLAVE BOAT. PLEASE STOP BELIEVING WHAT YOUR COLONIZERS TOLD YOU! AND STOPP BEING SO IGNORANT TO SAY ALL BLACK PEOPLE ORIGINATED IN AFRICA! YOU DON'T EVEN NO THE ORIGINAL NAME OF AFRICA DO YOU?
@@azborderlands Reading and comprehension are not your strong suit I see. I said look up "American" in the 1828 Webster Dictionary. I said nothing about "Black" or " Indian" 🧐🤔
Im realizing that some people have a weak and conquered spirit. Don't try to debate them mentally because they don't accept facts. Call out their cowardly behavior spiritually.
Half of these places didn’t exist back then. With these modern names smh , and a lot of us are Indian Americans, 🌎and always been. Here, you right Adonis the reclassified us 💯. I love your content keep it up 🙇🏾♂️
@@DirtyEdonThis is why we say that Africans that flee from their homeland are lost. Why are you concerned with Black Americans identity? Why are Africans and Caribbeans cosplaying lost people? Make it make sense. Some of us have completed our genealogy and we know exactly who we are. And some of us know the history of the USA. And some of us have had our ancestry history past down to us verbally as well as in writing. So nothing you say will convince us otherwise.
@@almy-qy1lf Most Black Americans who have completed their genealogy have a combination of Indigenous Black American Indian, Black European, Siberia Strait Native American Indian and Some have African and wite European ancestry. Very few Africans were brought from Africa to the 13 colonies aka USA.
You have to start calling out the fact that these non American blacks have great envy for us. Black Canadians and black Brits pretty much have the same background as far has how we got to these counties yet, they never have these same talking points about them. Whites in this country for the most part don't know where they are from when it comes to Europe. These blacks that are non American all talk about us at their dinner tables while we pretty much don't speak of their existence until they bad mouth us. The only thing they can say which is so petty, is that we don't know where we're from? So the fuck what, we are American, DEAL WITH IT!
@terrelljackson. He will not say. A significant percentage of people across the Dispora believe it is acceptable to have vitriol for Black Americans while cosplaying as them, and they do not believe they are being divisive. Honestly, their actions are quite pathetic.
The small amount of Africans brought to America mixed in with millions of people here! What if the people sold was not from Africa? What if they migrated to Africa and that's why they were sold?
We our a lost people though. Lost a homeland(landless) people, confused to our identity, lost to our traditions(even traditional black American culture from the south), lost to folkways, mores, a knowledge of self, politics, values, how to pick mates, procreation,etc.
@down-b8197 if you culture is confused as to how to have strong two family homes, procreation and has to have continuous conversations on dating and gender wars. Your "lost" to a marriage culture that works. Even the most primitive people in the world can hold together a family of four.
Its a shame we cant acknowledge one another Malcolm X has expressed how patrice lumumba was the greatest black man to walk in Africa Notice how he says Black and not african? I hope we become more unitied and not divided
Adonis......what you are doing by having these discussions is a goodthing. But you need also to realise how WRONG you can be. 1) All Black people originally came from Africa. The man was right. I don't understand why you are arguing with that fact. 2) You also talk about"fleeing" a country. I have heard this from some black Americans say this to immigrants. And you use this in a way of an insult. If you studied black American history, you guys have a history of "fleeing". Why do you think there were black people in Canada during slavery? Why when the American gov. passed the fugitive slave act, this cause many black Americans to go up north (Canada) and elsewhere? So this idea of Africans having a history of fleeing. again this is NOT TRUE, Black Americans have a history of fleeing too. Third point, "Congo" already existed way before the America existed. That man was right and you are TOTALLY WRONG. Your information on Congo/africa is mainly on Western point of view and not an African point of view. Congo ( or KONGO - original word) also existed way before the Berlin Conference 1884 . So for you to debate a Congolese man about Congo itself and you not even knowing the full TRUE history of KONGO, the many kingdoms of Kongo (which most STILL exist TODAY), is really rude and insulting at your end. I think you need to learn to control your emotions and accept when you are wrong. America was built on a "stolen land" and your ancestors were forced to build America against their will. And they came from Africa. You not accepting this true history and not even understanding how black Americans, Africans, Caribbeans are ONE RACE of people is VERY PROBLEMATIC. When that man said we are Black, again he was right. Why are you arguing with this? Just because we are different (culturally), this does not mean we are "divided". And I think in your videos, you are really pushing this "division" too much.
All black people don't recently come from Africa, which I think your statements intends to suggest. People with black phenotypes are among the most diverse in humanity on a genetic and historical level. If we're being technical, as Adonis said, yes all people have theoretical origins in Africa. But to refute your racialist perspective, consider a Southern Italian or Spaniard has more genetically in common with a random West African than does a highly 'black'-appearing native of the Andaman or Solomon Islands. All of the European 'race' nonsense has to die some day. We all have unique tribes, ancestries, and communities, and all of humanity belongs to "ONE RACE"
@@tyrone2127 No my statement didnt suggest that. Adonis needs to knowledge that in discussion like this most of the time he is wrong. He doesnt know kongo, he never been to kongo and he doesnt know kongo history. For him to debate a congolese man about a country he doesnt know about really stupid at his part. And he also needs to understand just because what he said sound good doesnt mean it true It quite the opposite.
1) by that logic EVERYONE came from Africa. It doesnt just stop at Black people because it’s convenient for you. 2) They fled? Lol how? Post civil war they had the opportunity to leave and didnt, if anything theres also a large population of Black people in England because they fled to the English side after being promised freedom ( not that i blame them im just saying, any Black Americans can mostly be traced to the people that stayed ) 3) not even gonna argue the Africa stuff because admittedly i dont even know. But as far as that last part yeaaa nah. They are American flat out, Fully recognizing the irony in what im about to say….. but i see nothing but Black Africans and Europeans just shit on Black Americans all day then you wanna just go “oh but youre actually the same as us “ when it’s convenient for you. They are massive part of our countries history and id bet any you probably know little about that
These people wearing clothing influenced by black American culture. saying black Americans don't know where they come from..how is this even a conversation?
Black Americans stay strong in spirit . The world clearly doesn’t want us to be unified.there is a real reason for this .
This whole part!!!
All pretindians DNA test results be like = 80% African 20 Europeans inglês
@@NkosiMunjiZulu nothing you just said is true . Literally nothing. DNA also says Jesus was white with straight hair. It’s not hard for Indian to trace their lineage all the records are available. You are literally just making up shit
Firstly we aren’t ALL 80% African, to claim that is incredibly incorrect. Secondly, you’re attempting to erase us, our heritage, our culture and struggle here in the U.S.. Our percentage of African, European and Native American are all varying. All of the Africans who I’ve met tell me that they wouldn’t even consider me black but when I’m around my people, they KNOW me. There are Africans at my job (I work in healthcare) who believe that I am Hispanic 😂 I haven’t told them yet but what they do is play “they not like us” a lot and pretend to be us. We have documents on some of our people Passing as white. Some of us, like myself and my family you can see our NATIVE blood in us, plus there is something called the DAWES rolls. What you guys want to do is pick and choose who will fit with you guys and SEPARATE the rest of us from our own people. We are our own “tribe” who share the ancestors that you guys sold. I think we have more in common with the “COLORED” people in Africa, I was told by Africans that, that is what I’d be considered. Many of our ancestors were mulatto, including myself and family but with 2 black (mulatto) parents and grandparents. Yes we started from Africa! And I am proud of that. My ancestors fought to stay alive so that we could be here although they went through terrible things and YOU guys threw them away. Please know that we are our own people. Don’t disrespect us, take care of Africa
@@NkosiMunjiZulu from my picture you can see I’m black, I had 2% African in my ancestry 😂😂 yall love to lie
Our ancestors didn’t suffer for 400 years for us to be lost. With suffering comes strength. Also you will never be lost if you let God lead the way anyway. ❤️💚🖤
Black American history more nuanced than that. Our foreparents was lost to a culture based on free independent people culture. That whole culture was based on a chattel system and the harsh reality of the plantation system. They couldn't be a " people" all they way. We still in the same chattel culture, just a 20th century version.
We are not letting YAH lead the way as a community. As a matter of fact, silent, Generation civil rights leadership gave up God and church, being the backbone of the black community for government and social integration. We living extra liberal and dishonest as a people.
Do a DNA test you African ❤
@@NkosiMunjiZuluthose tests are inaccurate and for entertainment purposes only
@@NkosiMunjiZuluFk your fake DNA tests.
When Africans say we don't know what country we come from. We have to emphasize the point that none of the countries that exist in Africa today existed when the trans-Atlantic slave trade happened. So, we don't trace the African side of our ancestry to any country in Africa, because those countries did not exist and were created during and post colonization. It's that simple.
Its another about cou try it'd about tribe!!!
DNA test you are my baby 👶🏿🧒🏿 lost in America 💔
@@NkosiMunjiZuluwe aren’t lost we don’t care about Africa. Are Koreans lost because they don’t know where in China they immigrated from?
@@jacklyneverage3881 the slave trade was on a small scale, look up the Emblem of America, it will show you who was here before Columbus. It was, and still is black ppl💁🏾💯🪶🪶……🎥📰👎🏾
@@NkosiMunjiZuluand you’re living in poverty lost in Africa letting everyone else takeover
Proud to be Black American.
I am not lost I love my Bloodline.
It depends on what your definition of lost is, if you look at the Bible and what they say is lost, WE THAT. If you look at possessing a certain knowledge of economics, politics, healthy eating, mate selection, community cohesion, etc we lost to alot of things.
@@alphonsomorris793I think context matters here
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@@OPCMusicGroup in what way? A place of origin atill gives u a foundation to which you can build on.
DNA test beach 😂😂😂 do it the 100 million AfroBrazilian have done their test is your time African
Telling a person whose families are victims of human trafficking they don't know where they come from is dirty work 😮
real. It’s sad that we are just further dividing ourselves like this. We are all one people but with our own unique cultures
@@lubabalosobantu8815BYE! We are not the same.
@@SRobinson-hr6me we aren’t the same, we do have differences in culture. But in the same way asians are one and whites are one, so are we black people
@@SRobinson-hr6me i never said we are the same, we all have different cultures, but that doesn’t mean we can’t be one people
We not you build and create your own stop hanging off us@@lubabalosobantu8815
Why do they forget that Jamaicans are also descendants of slaves? 😆
They didn't forget, they all know what they're doing.
The whole Caribbean was but they never have that smoke for them
No disrespect to my Caribbean folk but...there isn't much to gain from being attached to Caribbean folk like there is being associated to the group of people that influence the world like FBA.
Also those in Haiti. Haitians say they ARE HAITIANS, Jamaicans say they are JAMAICANS! Why don’t they talk crap to them??? It’s literally like CRABS IN A BARREL. They want us to praise them and ignore ourselves. Credit them and deny accomplishments here in the U.S. most black Americans AREN’T even 100% AFRICAN! We go by the OnE drop rule here.
@@brandonchilds9716 maybe because Carribbean don't claim to be from native Americans, Hebrew Israelites and other groups.
The real question is why do they always have our name in their mouth cuz we for damn sure don't have theirs and Ours because we simply don't care about them like that😅
Cause they love us
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@@STLPLAYB0Y How come the black people in South America, Asia, Europea don't have problems with Africans?
But you guys always mention us its literally there, I mean the host is American bringing up these topics🤷🏾♂️
@@RoLakPX stop it we never do.
No Black person who’s ancestors where slaves in the United States,The Caribbean, Central America, South America can say where their African Ancestors are from I did the dna test im mixed with 5 or 6 different west African countries. The earliest ancestor I found was born in 1795 in North Carolina he was on the 1870 census he’s like my 4th or 5th paternal great grandfather. Black people in the new world was stolen by Europeans or sold into slavery by other Africans. Many Blacks in the UK are what 3rd or 4th generation. You can’t compare 400 years to what 70 something years
Actually, they can. Tell them we are from kingdoms, empires, and cheifdoms that don't exist anymore b/c their behinds worked with the colonizers to destroy them. LOL! Case closed.
Black brazzilian know they from Nigeria. They still pratice the religions.
Black Caribbean know they from Benin, they still practice voodoo.
@croixfadas and SOME black Americans practice the same, but it's called Hoodoo, stemming from Kongo/Central Africa and Nigeria, specifically Yoruba, Igbo, Fon & Ewe tribes. However, this is only part of who we are. We, in fact, do have lineage in the US that predates the enslavement of Africans. The colonizers did what they do best, and that's lie, deceive & re-write. Many of us copper colored deep, melinated people were re-classified during that time. We didn't all come on slave ships. Melinated people have been circumventing this globe before the colonizer knew what a boat and compass was.
@@humblewon5156peace My copper colored Brother what evidence can I go research that suggests that Hoodoo from the South of North America originated in Kongo Central Africa?
@@humblewon5156 Not to mention the similarities of San tarira Spanish speaking indigenous people South America/The Islands and Ifa(Yuroba)west African And Obeyah in the Caribbean
I’m from New Orleans,Louisiana and I don’t want to be from anywhere else. Great interview ❤ My great great grandfather was Choctaw Indian.
Hey cousin! My people NC Choctaw!
Guys, there are tribes in America that are Black - literally. The Coharie, Lumbee, Catawba, Biloxi, Monacan, Tuscarora, Manahoac, Sissipahaw, Santee, Cheraw, Peedee, and the list goes on. Their descendants today are literal Black people.
@@azborderlands Hey, so not everyone ❤️ - melungeon is the word the French gave them for “mixed”, but that doesn’t apply to everyone. The Eastern Cherokee, Waccamaw, Haliwa, Shinnecock, Narragansett’s and many of the other eastern tribes (even out west) are just Black - no Melungeon attachment.
As a southeastern woodland Indian Huguenot I can assure you that our enemies made war upon us wherever we were found. We are Israelites ie Shemites and we ruled the world. Most of the early socalled colonists were Israelites ie Black people from Europe who were fleeing persecution or were forcibly deported. Always study history from primary sources instead out of the mouths of others in order to dodge the hijack. It's not a coincidence that we be who we be. We are the civilzers and culture bearers throughout history wherever we find modernity. Shalom from the House of DAVID and Marlborough 👊🏿🕎⚔️🏹🪶🌽💜🙏🏿
@@LaceSteve so where did they come from . Or how were they black ? So are you saying slavery didn’t happen the slave trade is fake ?
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It was Webster's dictionary, 1828, which was the first one of its kind. It clearly states, "copper colored people."
A lot of where the confusion comes from is folks not understanding the difference between Race x Ethnicity x Nationality.
Saying America is not my country and i was born here is crazy to me.
Your ancestors being born in America and having to fight to be acknowledged as a citizen is crazy to me. Especially when yall still fighting for equality in 2024. Why won’t yall get the message. Fighting yall entire existence in this country.
@@Blacklabeldand why won't you get the message that these same colonizers have not given y'all true independence, hand picking leaders to continue their dirty work, orchestrating wars and poverty, causing many of y'all to flee to these same 1st world countries y'all tell us we're not welcome in. Y'all stay trying to sweep around our front door, when ther is massive piles of trash around yours.
@@BlacklabeldLMFAO, you’re going to act like people aren’t fighting EACH OTHER in Africa right this very moment? And have been for years. I think it’s sadder in all black countries you can’t trust each other to not have corrupt leadership. Your OWN people are being mistreated in a black country. South Africans are dragging Nigerians over Miss SA. You people are so disingenuous.
Same thing for Africans and they been there forever
@@BlacklabeldUm, no. Not all or most gaf about being a citizen in a foreign corporation that isn’t native to this soil. This issue was having certain rights in public affairs. Black Americans had their own everything yet some chose to be involved in the foreign system set up on the soil. Some of our people are private citizens which isn’t the same as a public citizen.
Homie wearing a cowboy which is a culture started by Black Americans.
DNA test you are my baby 👶🏿🧒🏿 lost in America 💔
@@NkosiMunjiZulu you gave us up for adoption. We have no more ties anymore fam 😭
Keep schooling these ignorant sheep Adonis this is important information ✊🏾
Much respect my brother 🤝🏾
The dude in the throwback is too emotional.
Edit: Have you ever noticed that when you describe their country's history, they start bragging about the Wakanda package they left behind? If Congo was so great, you would be in Congo.😂
Without Congo you don't have smartphones/computter/satélites etc...
@@NkosiMunjiZulu Cheap material doesn't mean critical materials. Those devices existed before trade for materials to make them more efficient. Btw, you can thank black American inventors such as Henry T. Sampson, Jesse Russell, and George Carruthers, for that technology.
Many congolese disporas are living in Congo. Maybe you should use the energy of commenting on social media and focus more on what happening in America. With the division, corruption all the way to up too the supreme court. And the recent shooting of innocent black women sonya massey. What are you doing as an american to fix this?
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Word of the day, “deflection”… when you ask these people the same questions they try to say we don’t know, they start to deflect
DNA test
Pretindians you are not a indian
It’s crazy how so many of yall can watch this interview and still come out believing the interviewer was putting in work. lol he embarrassed BA. Kept throwing shots about things that didn’t even make sense. Such as “ You fled your country “. lol
@@Blacklabeld oh word… that’s what’s up, we not tryna hear that shit.
@@NkosiMunjiZulu you keep saying DNA test...many humans have portions of African DNA...so a Filipino isn't allowed to say where their from because they have a percentage of African DNA?
I am Sierra Leone and find these people ridiculous. They spent all their time watching American shows and think he is American
The African diaspora NEVER say Black people from New Guinea, Fiji, Australia or even the Garifuna people are from Africa! But when it comes to Black Americans I don’t care how much evidence you show them Tht The majority of Black Americans were already here and the few Africans that did get shipped to the USA eventually over time mixed in with the Blacks tht were already here and there was an ethnogenesis
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😂😂😂 this is why we call you lot lost
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@@shadowswest9612this is why you here and from the poorest continent on the planet
@@shadowswest9612 if a white guy says this I guarantee you will believe it 100%. Don’t take my word for it do your own research and I bet you you come up with the same answers I have.
Next tome they say the USA don't have culture. Ask them what their culture is? How would they describe their culture to a person who didn't know?
@@yessi3090 African culture is based on collectivism. Community orientated, respect for elders, Extended family is important as well as Ubuntu mindset. African culture is extremely similar to Asian culture.
Types of food: Italian/France/ingles food?
Types of espiritual pratices
Type of music
Type of dance
Type of merrege
Types of dress
Etc...
Culture in my prospective is ..when i have a indigenous language.not English frm my colonizers...tribe names ...tribe dances...tribe festivals...not adding on white man's invention nd i call it culture nd am not trying to be offending but if i start speaking my language u couldnt understand..so i speak the white man's language to simply for u my bro ❤❤
@HolyBoyi you say this in English bc no one will understand you otherwise on an app made by white ppl on an invention made by white ppl, not dressed in your tribal clothes posing in a photo not imvented by your culture. Without the phone, car, computer, or internet, you would still be sending messages via what.. horses, smoke signals.. the village's fast runners...?
@HolyBoyi but we have all those. In we talk with dialects so real americans know where we from based off that. We don't have to add to white people. Some things we invented on our own. We have our own! Some misconceptions about us.Stop watching entertainment on us in expecting us to be what you watched.We have culture in you speak english for white people, not us.
Why in the hell aren't they telling the Aboriginal of Australia they don't know where they come from? Or The Melanated Chinese that they are lost? Or the Brazilians ( the biggest number of enslaved people went to Brazil) that they need to know what tribe they come from? Why the fixation on us?
Nobody is fixing it on you ...its the making an interview ...he could talk about china vz usa but he decided to tlk about that
They are simply jealous of us. They NOT US! and wanna be us!
@@HolyBoyi Actually they/you are fixated on telling us about our history and lineage because your colonizer told you about our history. I wish I would believe what I'm told by the oppressor class. I've researched beyond what I was taught with formal education and my family's oral history is worth far more than the bs you were taught!!
Aboriginal Australians did not get enslaved from Africa mam. Yall stay acting like the slave trade from Africa to America never happened which is the only way someone can make this weird comment.
@@Blacklabeldbut Jamaicans, Trinidadians, Brazilians, and many other did...again where's this same energy for them?
I just take it as jealousy. We “don’t know where we’re from” but we’re still able to be the most influential.
Right lol we are the only ones that don’t know where we are from but yet our culture is know and replicated all over world ❤❤❤❤
This. Imagine if they had the people that they sold actually fighting for their countries and/or tribes like we did for America. They want us to come help them so they can be more stable like we are. We stood on business like Adonis said and still to this day! I really think it’s all jealousy. They act like we still don’t have it hard. We just not going for it anymore.
Black Americans have the second most millionaires in America as a group Black Americans invented over fifty thousand inventions no other group of Black achieved more than Black Americans
The dual audio was painful!!!!
Ask them who named it Africa and Congo next time
Don't matter it's still a land of origin. A people without land is like a man without legs. Land gives you a real foundation.
Congo was named after the tribe kikongo who were the founders of the Kongo kingdom pre colonialism. Maybe you should have Google that before typing rubbish.
@alphonsomorris793 It matters. Don't tell Americans who they are if you don't truly know who you are. Africans don't even know what they were called before they were colonized. They just repeat what their oppressors told them. I'm FBA, not African. Part Yahmasee, part Mubundu, part Igboo, and Moorish. We became a new ethnic group, which is FBA. White American immigrated here.
@@DirtyEdon Who named the tribe that? And who created the borders of Congo?
@@PrinceCharlesLeeRay ourselves as the name Congo literally comes from our native languages. You do know the majority of African countries actually renamed their countries after colonisation right? This is why people say black Americans are ignorant and don't know where they come from.
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸AFRICAN AMERICANS…Paved the way for The Caribbean and Africa
Explain how any American made africa😂 the oldest continent on earth to house humans😂😂
@@takionjose6657 africa has nothing bro your land is ran by every else and it’s supposed to be your language they call it a grave site on a systematic playing field black Americans paved the way for every other minority without us you couldn’t live in London freely
@@takionjose6657 If you stop thinking with emotions you’ll Know I said… we ”Paved The way”
And Africans paved the way for your existence on this planet. I’d say we even.
@@Blacklabeld Actually Africans Sold us.. Too Europeans Not even at all… 1957-1960-1965…Civil rights acts black Americans are the reason any other group can come too America.
The fact that he said murder based on skin color is/was not a thing in Africa is CRAZY! Cuz was that not what happened in Rwanda with the Hutu’s and Tusi’s??????? Literally light skin vs dark skin.
Yeah nothing to do with imperialism.
@@croixfadas whatever you want to call it. It happened and we know why it happened.
@@ShadesOfJadeOfficial Yeah because of america.
@@croixfadas I thought they were colonized by Belgium but whatever. That doesn’t excuse the fact that there were murders based on skin color and classism.
@@ShadesOfJadeOfficial you are talking about rwada not Congo
You should have showed him the Virginia 1682 reclassification act.
Facts
Very true, my family owns 60 acres down south. We’re Black Natives so they couldn’t hit us with that Trail of Tears BS
DNA test we will see fake indian pretiandians you a like me you are an African from Angola ❤ anchient Kindon of Ndongo.
Do you know that their are 50 milion AfroBrazilians in Brazil?
and Brazil culture is more African culture than outher thing.
💜💜💜💜 not native tho. They colonized that word
What's crazy is that only an estimated 3% even came to North America and Europe. Also there was a great deal of African descendantness throughout the West hundreds of yrs before Columbus. This is all so well documented
Jamaicans, Haitians, Brazilians etc all came from the same boat and dropped off in different places in the middle passage. We all been in these areas for over 500 years. Why Jamaicans etc can claim their countries and the cultures/food they created but black Americans can’t? Why because these people are jealous that we are in a first world country.
@@Arias74-i4g why would we care you come from a first world country? Its more like nobody says that to Caribbean or Jamaicans because they come from a predominant black country and have their own government while black Americans don't. That's why nobody says that to Carribbean. They have their own country.
@@DirtyEdon what?
@@DirtyEdon😂😂😂 they don’t own shit in a majority Black country . The white man owns over 80% of the wealth , land and businesses .
@user-jd4de7os3b u don't have a land or territory in the US
@@DirtyEdontheir own government? Girl the UK still runs many of these islands and the African continent. It's just by proxy now.
Let’s goo (FBA) standing on business
DNA test show me
Why do you need reparations if you claim to have been there before the Europeans?
@@Kaze-h8jwhy are you all up in our business?!!! Mind yours!!! Damn!
@@humblewon5156 just asking a simple question. Why do you need reparations if you were already here?
@@Kaze-h8j 😂👍🏾
I'm a black American, and I feel like these conversations can be divisive. 😢 we really need to just learn to respect each other cultures and work together. Same roots, just different branches.❤❤❤❤❤
Some branches have flourished aka fba
POWER TO YOU BROTHER FROM ANOTHER MOTHER EVEN THOUGH WE COME FROM THE SAME MOTHERLAND AND BECAME DISTANT THROUGH HISTORY
I AM NOT AFRICAN! WE ARE DIFFERENT IN THE MENTAL AND SPIRIT! THE MORE I HEAR AFRICANS THEY PROVE AINT NO WAY IN HELL WE ARE THE SAME!
@@Lawrence-mv8dw facts
“Black” Indians have lived in The Western hemisphere since time immemorial.
The pyramids here are older, the people(originally “black”) and cultures/geography plants and animals are older/original versions.
Black Indians were not spawned or created as a result of Africans coming to the Western Hemisphere during the Trans-Atlantic slave trademixing in with native people of the Western Hemisphere region. (also known as Native American Indians)
Native or Indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere (also known asIndians)didnot refer to themselves or their ancestors as Indian. (We use the word Indian since most people are accustomed to this title) The word Indian, Red Man and Native American, are European colonized terms. Native or indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere, referred to themselves by way of tones, vibrations of expression. Your spirit said who and what you were. The name given
to you was based upon what type of spirit you possessed.
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All native or indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere (aka Indians) possessed different physiological features. Hair texture, bone structure, and skin tone varied.
Proud to be FBA, we lost, but he fled from his country..We lost but there is 54 countries in Africa and they are the poorest continent in the world. We lost but they have tribal genocide. We lost but their government they put in buys villas In Italy, 8 million dollar plus homes around the world and buy cars and jewelry while their people literally starve to death but we lost..The disrespect is great but "We gonna Be Alright" because we are FBA who were sold to our captives by our brothers and r ped, brutalized by our captures, babies used to feed alligators and skinned to make shoes for the masters family ...But we are lost..fix and find your house before you tell me a proud FBA where are house is located. ..Thank you and have a good day
Say that!
@@janicet2665 How come in your rich country it's always the Black Americans who are robbing, murdering, looting,etc?
That’s powerful and I’m proud FBA!!!!
Black Americans fled back to Africa and Created two countries (Liberia, and Sierra Leone) so by your logic you guys fled. They are considered poor because majority don't live a eurocentric lifestyle??? And black Americans are the poorest group in the US. The US literally comitted many genocides towards black people and native bro are you seriously forgetting that???? And you government doesn't do the same thing, there's a reason why Monaco, Andorra, and Guam are practically rich playgrounds while a good chunk of the US is still poor whilst somehow being considered rich🤔 you guys build these false narrative to try demonise Africa, yes many people were sold into slavery, but if you did more research that was only a small amount of people actually sold into slavery the rest were kidnapped. Its crazy how you try to justify your hate for Africans rather than the ancestors that captured yours and abused yours for hundreds of years. I have zero hate towards Americans my ancestors been through similar, but some of you guys try your hardest to being racist and its just sad tbh🤷🏾♂️ Saying this as someone whos West African and Caribbean who does appreciate your culture and people. Fix up with this bad narrative and wake up and see what these kinds of videos do. They cause division, he's gonna say we mention you guys when theres videos of you guys also mentioning us as well. Its an agenda people want us to fall into and we need to realise that as they are winning in division. Much love though, God bless🙏🏾
@@demmefrazier6629 Bro you are lost you a African do a DNA test and go sleep
They don’t tell Australian, Chinese, etc that they are Africans… they are quick to tell us because WE THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THAT! if we wasn’t lit we wouldn’t even be on their mind!
Jealousy is as cruel as the grave...
Do people not realize that Ancient Americans were negro people? The American Indians were classified as Negro, Colored, and now African American on the US Census. They took our heritage, culture, and identity. Black Americans are the original people of the Americas. Just ask grandma. The American Indians are the. African Americans. They wyt washed history; our ancestors are the original people of America. Black people weren't just in Africa; they were on all continents first and are the original people everywhere. Do your research fam.
How many black Americans come from those natives?
@@tobyadowye5537the original American Indians are what they labeled negro. American Indians were called negros in colonial times. That's just one reclassification they brought to confuse the people. They pushed the dark skinned Indians out and placed many inside that are not the true people. Large majority have roots here in America. On every continent they pushed the Original people out of there land and they tell them they're from Africa.
DNA test please
@@NkosiMunjiZuluDNA tests show our tribal lineage?
@@jobeauty3722 yes
Ok he represents Mutumbo wit the jersey but why he doesn't have Congo style pants and sneakers on...But we don't know where we come from ..
Exactly. The dude is wearing a Denver jersey. 😅
‼️What they fail to realize is that FBA have always had strong family ties. The Family Reunion didn’t exist until WE created it. My family has t-shirts with our entire family tree broken down on the back of the shirts. Let’s be clear; we have RECORDS! Grandfathers, Grandfather…. 🙄😒the nerve! They still haven’t explained how KNOWING WHERE YOU COME FROM benefits you. If it was such a benefit then why in the hell aren’t they in their homeland’s!😂✅
Black Americans are mixed with multiple African ethnicities in addition to multiple European ethnicities and aboriginal American. Our bloodlines have foundations right here. Idk what they don't understand about that lol
Your ignorance is startling considering we are literally in the information age. We are Israelites ie Shemites ie Negros and this is why we were made war upon and enslaved. We are the civilzers and culture bearers throughout history wherever we find modernity. Who else but gods could build the modern world and its wealth while enduring the greatest crime in history? Shalom 👊🏿
Not all of us.
The term Black didn’t into existence until after the Europeans came.
Love This ! IM PROUND TO BE BLACK IN AMERICA
Dikembe Mutombo never won an NBA championship, but he did reach the NBA Finals twice. Copy and pasted from the search engine 😭😭😭😭 not in America lol😅
I'm so glad you're schoolin him and others about the misconception of native Americans, they weren't all light people. historical records show that European explorers noted how the indigenous people were dark
The fact that he can’t name the first president of the Congo proves he doesn’t know where he’s from.
You cannot claim to be from a place you weren’t born and raised in. End of discussion
Do you know the situation of Congo?
@@croixfadas tf does that have to do with knowing who the first president is? 🤣🤣🤣
@channingdavis5541 There is a genocide going on and the president is a puppet of the west, that never says anything. Calling him a coward for fleeing is super fucked up. Millions of people die every year because America arm mercenaries to steal the ressources and displace people.
I’ve literally always had this conviction from the 6th or 7th grade that not all blacc Americans are from Africa. I remember telling my mom that and she got so mad bc she was taught the white man’s history. As I’ve grown up and researched more I’ve learned more more about how many blacc Americans were here well before slavery and even with slavery niggas been here for 12+ generations! I’ve literally traced my mother’s mother linage bacc to the 1500s we are blacc American and know exactly where we’re from!!!! I shared my findings about my mom’s side of the family history with them and they finally are less ignorant to the truth that they are BLACC AMERICANS
I’m a big chahta Indian 😤 I can name my grandparents back to the 1700s one line back goes back farther than that. These people don’t even know when the colonizers got here they compared us to the Ethiopians (1524 Giovanni de Verrazano for the Carolina Indians, Bartholomew Gosnold described the Maine Indians as black swart complexion, etc throughout the Americas) at the end of the day they not like us
Before the Belgian conquered the Congo, it was the Portuguese running the slave trade heavy from 1500-1850. Congo still a very young country.
Congo is a major region that slaves were taken from.
There was no such country as the Congo. This ignorant man from the country of Congo stated we don't know what country we come from. Well, all the countries that exist in Africa today were formed post the trans Atlantic slave trade. It's asinine to claim a country or different countries that exist today in Africa that our African ancestors were never from in the first place. That's the point Adonis is making. When it comes to our African ancestors, they were taken from UNIFIED KINGDOMS, EMPIRES, or CHIEFDOMS that don't exist anymore and they were taken all across West, West-Central, and Central Africa. It was a period of disintergration, upheaval, people running to places or locations for safety to prevent being captured by slave raiders (dislocation), and wars during the trans-Atlantic Slave trade. Therefore, it makes no sense to trace our African ancestors to individual countries that our ancestors did not come from, especially when they came from SEVERAL REGIONS NOT ONE. It covers everyone in our ancestry to mention REGIONS vs. COUNTRIES. Continental Africans and their immigrant children sound very unintelligent when making that statement. Just dense.
@@jacklyneverage3881 that region of Congo and Angola was a major source of slaves, during the last 100 years of the trade there was a civil war that lead to half of the Ba-Kongo being enslaved.
The Congo region ethnic groups have also impacted your culture in folklore and language. Brer Rabbit is a folkloric figure descended from the folklore of the Bantus of West Central Africa, the word Gumbo is also descended from words used for Okra stews in the Congo Angola regions.
@@jacklyneverage3881 DNA test will tell you if you are from Angola 🇦🇴 or RDC 🇨🇩
DNA test Angola (Umbundo people,Kimbundo people,Bakongo people,etc...) you will know witch people in my country 🇦🇴 you are from
@@jacklyneverage3881 Nope it's easy to name countries yall Ancestors come from because you can identify ethnicities that were impacted by the slave trade and that includes the Bantus of West Central Africa, the Igbo via the Bight of Biafra, the Akan via the Gold Coast and others.
@@jacklyneverage3881American don't let ignorance make u seem dumb yet you are intelligent....kongo was there before america ..drc is aname given to the territory of the people of congo by the white guy who found him self in the kingdom...so if he was asked were have stolen this he could say kongo..then its was branded to drc
I found it strange how he mocked how an African speaks near the end. I'm Native American, Pueblo Native to be exact. 😁💚
The echo killed me but I refused to turn it off
White American trace their roots to
England, Ireland, Holland, France, Spain, etc and have always had a culturally connection to Europe and were aware of their European ancestry. America has only existed 248 years, so saying you're just American, is neglecting thousands of years of history and culture. The cultural connection should be stronger amongst African people (melanated people) , but some native Africans feel that Americans and Caribbeans don't make enough effort to study African cultures and they can sometimes be more ignorant than Europeans.
Thank you and this is very reason they say black Americans are lost … how can you just claim America .. what was before America?
Just mind your business bro, just like we mind our own.
Lol wtf no we fuckin dont. I mean maybe a little tiny bit but White Americans ABSOLUTELY Identify with this country far above anywhere else.
Idk where tf you heard that from
IF THEY COULD ONLY UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE THAT,
THEY WOULD SEE THAT EVEN DIVIDED WE CAN STILL BE ONE AND STROONG AS A UNIT
ONE OF THE FIRST THING WHY BLACKS ARE NOT FREE AMERICA TODAY IS THE NUMBER OF BLACKS COMPARED TO WHITES
i DON'T LIKE OBAMA BUT ONE THING HES RIGHT ON IS THAT " UNITED WE STAND " AND WE STAND A BIIIG CHANCE TO FREE OURSELVES FROM MENTAL RIOTS AND LIKE SOMEONE SAYS NONE BUT OURSELVES CAN FREE OUR MINDS !!!
SO LET'S PUT WORDS INTO ACTION
We were here 400 years before it was America
I literally just opened TH-cam and bro posts
I understand both sides. Our (you and him) lineage starts in Africa. We are natives of our respective country. This is a divisive conversation. We speak down to each other instead of learning from each other and piecing together our history.
Black Americans lineage starts in America we have DNA from 5-6 continents 😪😪
@@fairieduzt That is misinformation. The doesn’t align with slavery historical data nor the “Out of Egypt Theory.” This make believe stuff without a solid source is nonsense.
@@fairieduzt I also traced my DNA to the Fenga and Benga tribe, which is modern day Gabon Africa.
@@daohezone5176
Good for you everyone's lineage is different because of Chattel Slavery. Black Americans lineage and the start of its ethno genesis is America. It shows you didn't understand anything I said but carry on 😪😒🙄
@@fairieduzt 😂😂 I debunked your theory and now your upset.
big love to americans you have too much patient lol i cant wait to leave the uk... its such bad vibes
Us Blacks from Louisiana and the Gulf Coast; S.C and the Low Country definitely acknowledge, respect and represent our African ancestry and cultural retentions in food, traditions and language (Louisiana Creole and Gullah)
Yeah ya right. Afro Creole here from New Orleans representing Congo Square for our African Ancestors.
@@barrypayton2832
Eh la ba! My family roots Lafourche, St. James and Jefferson & Orleans Parishes
Speak for yourself
@ListwaLanyap1760 My peoples from Thibodaux, Lafourche. But I'm a 7th Ward HARDHEAD. New Orleans is full of African retention. Gumbo, Jambalaya, Cala, Secondlines, Jazz Funerals that Bamboula beat we play everywhere is real.They just don't know.
@@kinglions23
Probably because you're not intune with the history and the culture.
He kept saying I feel this is true, and when you hit him with facts. He couldn't take it, especially on the census. I traced my family back to the 1800s on Ancestry with the census records. He is the lost one.
DNA test you are African
I'm glad you called him out.
If we came back to the countries where our dna or ancestry says..They would treat us like outsiders or call us derogatory names….And still would say that we lost and yet and still claim our achievements
American black culture is definitely a big influence on black people around the globe but wasn't the only influence. Jamaican and Carribbean culture was the biggest influence in the uk for black people by far it's not even close. Africans in the UK had a hard time 70s, 80s ,90s and even earlier 00s because being African wasn't kl. everyone wanted to be Jamaican and the small amount of people that tried to act American were clowned crazy. African people learned to themselves openly and now African culture is massive, also Nowadays American culture is much more widely accepted as well. Even though i don't agree 100 percent with Adonis I respect and like the content.
@@buds198 England colonized several Caribbean Islands it was natural for the people to migrate to England. The man had no intention of listening for understanding because he kept dismissing Adonis when he told them the truth about America. He will be back on his podcast giving out misinformation because he shows his ignorance about Black Americans as something to be proud of.
Caribbean people are also defendants of enslaved Africans
What I can't understand is where is all this smoke for Jamaicans and other Caribbean people, why are we singled out when we are all a part of the diaspora? Jamaicans are allowed to simply be Jamaicans with no push back, same for all the other islands.
Yet Jamaicans flock to the US to try and be like us. Also, British culture has always been inundated by black American culture. Period! And in the US, you couldn’t even listen to Jamaican music, or anything associated with anything Jamaican, and not get laughed at. Black American culture has been influential around the whole world. And definitely not with just black people. Everybody!
@@LorLon954 what are you talking about? Since the windrush Carribbean music has been part of black UK community , most of the biggest artists came to England and recorded music as the labels that were signing them were predominately based in the uk .
It’s kinda hard to focus on the audio from the video repeating its self!!! but I love this a lot, knowledge is power❤
39:55 The Dude brought up an issue on a podcast but can't defend his position. I believe people like him throughout the diaspora are willfully ignorant when it comes to us Black Americans.
Funny how when you were asking him the definition of ignorance he was describing himself to the T 🤣😂😂 these jokes write themselves. This is a perfect example of your average African who ran all over the world, but has something to say about the people who stand ten toes down!!
Why are you having a conversation with people that can't argue there point, bring dr Umar Johnson on your show?
im not fimilar with dr umar and im having a converation with someone who had their own perspective and we articulated out perspectives for the sake of clarity also DR umar is way out of my league
@@adoniscrashboomHe is out of your league because he would clear you out on any conversation douchebag.
Talking to umar would be a waste of your time as he a Pan-african scammer that repeats himself 3times and gets perverted. Plus he a Caribbean tether that's worse then a jealous African.
Foundational black 🔥
Tethers just be lying, Mutombo didnt win any championships😂😅 hes not mentioned in any conversations when the great biggs of the NBA are mentioned, hes known for blocks and that finger wag.... THATS IT!!!!
I only really remember Allen Iverson to be honest 😂😂😂
Oh shit I was waiting for you to give this dude that work 💪🏾👌🏽👊🏾💯
This debate was terrible. At the end of the day, thanks to Ancestry DNA and 23 and Me, Black Americans can find out which African country our ancestors were stolen from. We honor and respect their existence. We have multiple generations that have been in America for CENTURIES and literally built this country and made it possible for their descendants to have the equality and opportunities we have today. We’re AMERICAN. 🇺🇸
Those tests are inaccurate and for entertainment purposes. Read the fine print
Our ancestors weren’t “stolen” they were sold by other Africans.
Ya'll those DNA tests are made to keep the lie going about black people. Tell them they came from Africa. We gotta keep them in the dark about the TRUTH that the AMERICAS is where most of them originated from. Who's behind these DNA TEST KITS????? Ya'll betta WAKE UP! Has any of your ancestors told you about a slave ship th
@@FirstnameLastname-vi7hmso if you sleep with LeBron James and get pregnant and he said no is not his.would you believe the DNA test ??😂😂
Absolutely
The Brudda from the Congo is talking about Patrice Lumuba.
I get you bro but it is belittling the work of black people internationally though to say that they had no role to play in gaining their own rights and that it's all the work of African Americans. What about apartheid? What about Haiti? I could go on
@@OKA4LIVE exactly
“Hella” came from the bay 😂
Don’t they get killed in Europe ?
Right, aren’t they having some type of race riot?
The echo and dual audio is BRUTAL 😢 Love this video, but idk if I can make it all the way through lol
This is messy this is too much no more diaspoara wars
We have never been the same. You're not telling the people on the Africab continent to stop enslaving, raping, killing, and mutilating each other .
Adonis blowin' hawt fire with this one 🌬 🔥
If it wasn’t for BA they wouldn’t have had those opportunities in the first place for someone who saying he’s wearing a jersey cause of a player he wouldn’t have gotten that chance if it wasn’t for BA who pushed the color barrier to give that play a opportunity to play
Facts 💯 They flee to the USA and ride on our accomplishments.
Se não fosse pelos Africanos e aliados soviéticos 🇦🇴🇲🇿🇷🇺🇨🇺🇿🇲🇿🇼 os AfroAmericanos hoje seriam escravoz.
Fomos nós que pegamos em armas soviéticas e lutamos contra os Americanos e ingleses e alemães?
Sabias disso que a União Soviética junto com os Africanos estavam a preparar um ataque nuclear contra os USA?
It’s sad that’s this is even a conversation. It’s sad that some would believe that a group with over 45 million people are lost because of a small percentage of that group chooses to say they’re native or Hebrew or whatever else. When the large majority or us melanated Americans know and understand our history. The impact that we’ve made on the history of the world culturally and scientifically. I refuse to entertain the ignorance someone chooses to have about our history. I love our African cousins but for me, all the groups of blacks in the western hemisphere that are descendants of the Trans Atlantic Slave trade, have some of the most influential cultures in the world, food, music, dance, take your pick. No one on this side of the planet has time to concern themselves with the happenings of another’s country. There is too much going on in our day to day here on this side of the world. Although we are supposed to be descendants of Africans who were sold into slavery. After 500 years we are not you and yet we know where we are from. Hundreds of years of blood, sweat, tears and torture. I would say that it’s 100% disrespectful to say you’re not apart of something your family helped build up. I’m a proud American who happens to be a descendant of slavery with a majority of black blood in me….. it is what it is
These two people are ignorant. One is from Africa (Congo), the other is from America (US). Yes, slavery happened and people were brought from Africa. They need me to school both of them. 😂😂😂
actually you coming on to someones comments call people ignorant because we are mature enough to have a informative conversation to have clarity is truly embarrassing and ignorant in it self --- stop projecting do better
@@adoniscrashboomyou have been ignorant as well though, you like to claim that africans can’t trace their history just because the country wasn’t formed yet. I and many others can go way back hundreds of years as well. We are all one people with different unique cultures
@@lubabalosobantu8815 he has the American mindset bro I expect this from him
@@lubabalosobantu8815you’re lying
Same way y'all don't except the fact that we're really from America@@lubabalosobantu8815
If you do decided to go on their platform, make sure you have some black American bros that’s on the same page as you with you bro
✊🏾 🇺🇸Foundational Black Americans we have no allies
that’s not a good thing. We should all be united
@@lubabalosobantu8815
Nah
DNA test 101% African with 1% of error 😂😂😂
@@NkosiMunjiZuluGreat, go back to Africa, because 101% African must tell of your tribal lineage😂
Lol…. Put a uniform on and get in the trenches and when they start shooting youll know immediately who your allies are.
The other people wearing the same uniform….. some people black and white just can’t accept that but its true
Louis Vuitton is actually from Paris LOL
Your are proving them right. You guys are soooo lost.
I am a melanated man ,And I was born here in America, and I know this is not my country. I know this is not the European country neither .
Black americans you do have culture you are black american but please stop saying you are indigenous to America you are not!
My family NEVER CAME OFF A SLAVE BOAT. PLEASE STOP BELIEVING WHAT YOUR COLONIZERS TOLD YOU! AND STOPP BEING SO IGNORANT TO SAY ALL BLACK PEOPLE ORIGINATED IN AFRICA! YOU DON'T EVEN NO THE ORIGINAL NAME OF AFRICA DO YOU?
Look up "American" in the 1828 Webster's Dictionary 😪😪
Wrong
@@azborderlands
Reading and comprehension are not your strong suit I see. I said look up "American" in the 1828 Webster Dictionary. I said nothing about "Black" or " Indian" 🧐🤔
1682 Virginia Reclassification Act
Im realizing that some people have a weak and conquered spirit. Don't try to debate them mentally because they don't accept facts. Call out their cowardly behavior spiritually.
Half of these places didn’t exist back then. With these modern names smh , and a lot of us are Indian Americans, 🌎and always been. Here, you right Adonis the reclassified us 💯. I love your content keep it up 🙇🏾♂️
@@artoffacts3737 this is why people say black americans are lost because you're not ingenious Americans.
@@DirtyEdonThis is why we say that Africans that flee from their homeland are lost. Why are you concerned with Black Americans identity? Why are Africans and Caribbeans cosplaying lost people? Make it make sense. Some of us have completed our genealogy and we know exactly who we are. And some of us know the history of the USA. And some of us have had our ancestry history past down to us verbally as well as in writing. So nothing you say will convince us otherwise.
@@DirtyEdonWe know we are not Africans. We are Americans!!!
Black Americans are not Indian Americans. Some have indian ancestors in their lineage, but there's a difference.
@@almy-qy1lf Most Black Americans who have completed their genealogy have a combination of Indigenous Black American Indian, Black European, Siberia Strait Native American Indian and Some have African and wite European ancestry. Very few Africans were brought from Africa to the 13 colonies aka USA.
Classic case of they hate us cuz they ain’t us
Yeah, you should’ve asked him who owns the Denver Nuggets and was the one that decided to draft Mutombo😂😂😂
This topic needs to end it’s too repetitive
Then tell all Africans and melanated Brits/Europeans to stfu about Black Americans!
You have to start calling out the fact that these non American blacks have great envy for us. Black Canadians and black Brits pretty much have the same background as far has how we got to these counties yet, they never have these same talking points about them. Whites in this country for the most part don't know where they are from when it comes to Europe. These blacks that are non American all talk about us at their dinner tables while we pretty much don't speak of their existence until they bad mouth us. The only thing they can say which is so petty, is that we don't know where we're from? So the fuck what, we are American, DEAL WITH IT!
You are dividing people bro
How so???
@@terrelljackson.Don't be hypocrite
@terrelljackson. He will not say. A significant percentage of people across the Dispora believe it is acceptable to have vitriol for Black Americans while cosplaying as them, and they do not believe they are being divisive. Honestly, their actions are quite pathetic.
@@123freesoft Care to explain? I’m asking genuinely. How he Adonis dividing people?
I think people calling us lost and saying we don't know where we come from are the ones dividing.
The small amount of Africans brought to America mixed in with millions of people here! What if the people sold was not from Africa? What if they migrated to Africa and that's why they were sold?
Adonis, stop put Jamaican in your topic and lest you talking to a Jamaican.
Why? The last time he spoke to a Jamaican everybody from Jamaica in the comments said they were embarrassed.
I guarantee the other people is laughing their .... Off!
We our a lost people though. Lost a homeland(landless) people, confused to our identity, lost to our traditions(even traditional black American culture from the south), lost to folkways, mores, a knowledge of self, politics, values, how to pick mates, procreation,etc.
The reality is we from planet earth Black people populated the whole planet. Unless you want to talk about from another star system.
What blk group isn't lost? Give an example.
@@down-b8197 u asking me?
@@alphonsomorris793
Yes, people keep saying we're lost but what group of blk ppl isn't?
@down-b8197 if you culture is confused as to how to have strong two family homes, procreation and has to have continuous conversations on dating and gender wars. Your "lost" to a marriage culture that works. Even the most primitive people in the world can hold together a family of four.
Its a shame we cant acknowledge one another
Malcolm X has expressed how patrice lumumba was the greatest black man to walk in Africa
Notice how he says Black and not african? I hope we become more unitied and not divided
Adonis......what you are doing by having these discussions is a goodthing. But you need also to realise how WRONG you can be. 1) All Black people originally came from Africa. The man was right. I don't understand why you are arguing with that fact. 2) You also talk about"fleeing" a country. I have heard this from some black Americans say this to immigrants. And you use this in a way of an insult. If you studied black American history, you guys have a history of "fleeing". Why do you think there were black people in Canada during slavery? Why when the American gov. passed the fugitive slave act, this cause many black Americans to go up north (Canada) and elsewhere? So this idea of Africans having a history of fleeing. again this is NOT TRUE, Black Americans have a history of fleeing too. Third point, "Congo" already existed way before the America existed. That man was right and you are TOTALLY WRONG. Your information on Congo/africa is mainly on Western point of view and not an African point of view. Congo ( or KONGO - original word) also existed way before the Berlin Conference 1884 . So for you to debate a Congolese man about Congo itself and you not even knowing the full TRUE history of KONGO, the many kingdoms of Kongo (which most STILL exist TODAY), is really rude and insulting at your end. I think you need to learn to control your emotions and accept when you are wrong. America was built on a "stolen land" and your ancestors were forced to build America against their will. And they came from Africa. You not accepting this true history and not even understanding how black Americans, Africans, Caribbeans are ONE RACE of people is VERY PROBLEMATIC. When that man said we are Black, again he was right. Why are you arguing with this? Just because we are different (culturally), this does not mean we are "divided". And I think in your videos, you are really pushing this "division" too much.
All black people don't recently come from Africa, which I think your statements intends to suggest. People with black phenotypes are among the most diverse in humanity on a genetic and historical level. If we're being technical, as Adonis said, yes all people have theoretical origins in Africa. But to refute your racialist perspective, consider a Southern Italian or Spaniard has more genetically in common with a random West African than does a highly 'black'-appearing native of the Andaman or Solomon Islands. All of the European 'race' nonsense has to die some day. We all have unique tribes, ancestries, and communities, and all of humanity belongs to "ONE RACE"
@@tyrone2127 No my statement didnt suggest that. Adonis needs to knowledge that in discussion like this most of the time he is wrong. He doesnt know kongo, he never been to kongo and he doesnt know kongo history. For him to debate a congolese man about a country he doesnt know about really stupid at his part. And he also needs to understand just because what he said sound good doesnt mean it true It quite the opposite.
1) by that logic EVERYONE came from Africa. It doesnt just stop at Black people because it’s convenient for you.
2) They fled? Lol how? Post civil war they had the opportunity to leave and didnt, if anything theres also a large population of Black people in England because they fled to the English side after being promised freedom ( not that i blame them im just saying, any Black Americans can mostly be traced to the people that stayed )
3) not even gonna argue the Africa stuff because admittedly i dont even know.
But as far as that last part yeaaa nah. They are American flat out,
Fully recognizing the irony in what im about to say….. but i see nothing but Black Africans and Europeans just shit on Black Americans all day then you wanna just go “oh but youre actually the same as us “ when it’s convenient for you. They are massive part of our countries history and id bet any you probably know little about that
These people wearing clothing influenced by black American culture. saying black Americans don't know where they come from..how is this even a conversation?
That double talk was insane. Nah son
lusa/tushka my family is from the southeast mainly Alabama west alabama near itumbi ikbi river and have always been there