I had no idea that Usman could give such a good analysis. He was spot on and eloquent when describing Justin's fight with Max, his fight history and willingness to throw down with Max in the final 10 seconds. Nice work.
@@ShinyEagle1dang bro did Chandler steal ur girl or slap ur momma?? 🤣 Why u hate him so bad? Lol, I'm def rooting for McNuggets too but Chandler seems like a solid, decent dude. I'm genuinely curious why the hate tho ✌️
Bro he got rocked so many times by Long jabs. Also all the body damage over time plus the Nose. And the eye pokes. Justin was hurting bad the whole fight.
I feel like it definitely is career changing, gaethje is 35 now and just got brutally knocked out and also lost his chance at his last title fight. It was biggest 0 reward 100 risk fight and that’s why justin really is a BMF
Yeah not to mention he tanked two proper eye pokes in each eye and a broken nose. Most fighters would have milked those eye pokes especially with the state of his nose, but he's not that guy.
@@MMAOdin You're right but I'm talking more on how with the state of his nose it would already feel like everything is going against you. Also he didn't take out time for either of them. If he did I think the nose coulda been dealt with more. But it wouldn't have changed the outcome. Max was too sharp that day.
Maybe he wasnt ever the greatest but man he is a fight fans fighter, Max is just better. Both are badasses and though Gaetjhe may now be done in the top 5 I'll always be a fan of his
I mean Justin was probably the top contender for the Makhachev fight but he risked that opportunity to fight Max. It unfortunately resulted in him losing his last ever title chance but man these men gave us one hell of a fight.@@Khadersheriff
@@canelkoc8726 Sure but the definitely the first checkbox was money here, Then the 2 or 3rd was entertaining fans. Gaethje is smart to enough to know this sport just keeps on asking for more and more blood. He most probably took it for money and maybe his Team thought it's easy fight for Gaethje
Re brutal knockouts, Kamaru delivered one, then received one, then saw his brothers Izzy and Francis fall, and now his stable mate Justin. Nobody’s immune!
Must be very rough to see a good friend get knocked out like that. Gaethje a real gangster too for going full blast the last ten seconds. Live by the sword, die by the sword🔥
@@Stopvotingdemocratvery well said. Gaethje is definitely proud but humble at the same time, he’s an action man, entertainer as well as a great fighter. Definitely aril has my respect and many others for a reason. Max as well.
I mean Max is the REAL gangster cause he was likely up 4 rounds & willingly initiated that final exchange , props to Gaethje for taking that fight tho because he didn’t need to.. nothing to gain , everything to lose
Not a chance and if he does, at that point Alex has an ability better than his left hook. His mythical ability to get everyone to want to kickbox with him in some sort of dick measuring contest lol
Omg dude so many are even now saying Hill was caught off guard bc of Herb even though it was a good 5-6 seconds after Herb was well outve the way. Absurd.
jamahal hill doesnt deserve a #1 contenders fight with jiri, he just gave pereira the easiest fight of his entire career and lost as definitively as possible, he should get rakic
Gaethje was never going to beat Islam either striking or wrestling - yes this loss puts him out of title contention but it solidifies him as a fan favorite legend that 9/10 people would rather watch than any current or former champion.
Usman's face when Henry spoke about Israle Adesanya not wanting the smoke with Pereira at 34min got me on the basement floor 😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Kevin is a wild guy for that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Usman is such an insightful guy - his analysis is always on point and he understands the game well. The bits about Jamahal not switching from a Fighting mindset to a Winning mindset is so true and clearly something that he’s wrestled with in his own career (no pun intended).
My favorite thing about this podcast is Usman is truly speaking his opinion. Even if he doesnt agree with Henry. They're not just trying to agree with each other. This is a high value part of this podcast format and discussions. It's why I don't listen to the O'malley podcast. I love Tim Welch's wisdom, but I'd rather hear that on Tim's TH-cam channel than the podcast where O'Malley isn't sharing his own thoughts and opinions on things and just agreeing with the opinion with everyone around him.
I’m already 5 minutes into this video and Kamaru is making excuses for Justin’s loss. Justin lost man. Max is and was the better fighter. There’s no excuses needing made
@@_NoBuddyCaresright and that’s gonna affect the fight, obviously even without those issues I still think max would have won, but they are still hindrances and maybe Justin might not have been KOed THAT BADLY
@@ADU17for sure but the narrative going into this fight was that they knew about this fight back in October. Losing like he did, knowing he knew about the fight 6 months ago, it seems like sour grapes to consider he had a bad weight cut.
@none_the_less truth is, it's hard to work your way to the top. But it's even harder to stay there. More obligations, more distractions It's hard too big as hungry waking up in silk sheets and flying private
@@BodyByRichalso the fact that people can gameplan and watch tape on your coaching style especiall6 if your on the main stage. Works for fighters as much as coaches.
People are getting caught in hype. Aspinal would wrestle him to dust because he’s well rounded and at heavyweight would be much larger. Don’t ruin the light heavyweight star.
For real, Tom has way better wrestling, way better BJJ, prob a 20-25lb weight advantage, and a ridiculous chin. Alex is crazy powerful but Tom took a super clean shot from that tank Pavlovich, ate that 💩 for dinner then sparked him out like 30 seconds later. Poatan vs Ciryl Gane would be INSANE tho!! It'd be 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@InspectorButters4 honestly the shot he ate wasn’t anything crazy, Pav caught him with a short left while off balance.. Alex would shut your boy Aspinal off with a clean shot.
i am a diehard Max Holloway fans. i think this is a fair assesment. just want to give so much credit to Justin. Broken nose, 2 eye pokes, got beaten, but still moving forward like a warrior. what a lion.
What a Homer Simpson, you mean. He has always relied on bullying guys with his power. That is why Dustin Poirier was gutted he got beaten by him: skill-for-skill, Gaethje is not even a top 10 fighter.
A title shot with Khabib? I think you pretty much have to be a Top 10 fighter… also, he’s beat a lot of solid guys in the UFC. Not sure what you’re on about?
@@johnboylan3832salty man, he obviously got more technical over time ie his fiziev win. he just got outclassed by max. don’t kick him while he’s down ffs
@@aurahbeats8871 Why would I be 'salty' about being proven right. Every time he can't bully someone, he loses. Go and watch his fights. He got outclassed because he is technically very poor in his striking. None of you numbnuts even understand anyway - me saying skill-for-skill he is not top 10 doesn't mean he can't win fights or isn't a top 10 fighter overall. It means he is subpar technically and relies on physicality, aggression, and his chin to win fights i.e. he has a definite ceiling on how far he can go, as has been proven in his two title fight loses and again on Saturday.
Justin is a BMF and always will be. Had all the right in the world to turn this fight down but still showed up and showed out because he knew this was a fight for the people. Hats off to both men I was so happy to see his Tweet saying he's in good spirits with his family afterwards. He is loved by many and will go down as a warrior!
Yeah honestly I been a fan of him for 5+ years. After this I have to step back. I understand he's ur brother. Be truthful and solid like a real man or don't make a video if you can't be professional. CCC did a good job.
I hope that this isn’t Justin’s “Tony” fight. That was a lot of damage he took, not quite like what he dealt to Tony but I don’t think we always recognize what that does to someone. Credit to both fighters, they really made it a night for the fans and we should be grateful
It was his "Tony" fight, even the way the fight happened in the first place. Justin took a fight he didn't have to, for a belt he already had and if he sat out he was guaranteed a title shot. These are the same circumstances with which Tony fought Justin
It was the bodyshots and the mixing of targets from Max that froze Gaetchje in this fight. Teep to the leg, body jab, left hook. Even in that finishing sequence, Max brought Gaetchje’s hands down with two nasty bodyshots right before sleeping him.
His hands were already down, he was stiff in the pocket and Max hit him with a huge momentum hook. No body shots opened him to that KO it was a chaotic exchange by Max
@@jetMan365 Go watch that exchange again guy! Max, like he did all night targeted the body first then Head shot, like a skilled boxer should do, in that exchange. 2 body shots ( I didn't see 4), then overhand right K.O. Why do you think Justin brought his hands down to cover?
Henry looks high as balls, like he just got put to sleep to get his wisdom teeth out and they wheelchaired him to a podcast room, smacked him awake, dumped him in his chair and said "and we're live!" And let him ramble nonsensically
Kamaru calling that last 10 second Justin’s move is hilarious… Max called him to the middle of the octagon and Max did it before…. That was Max’s move.
Yeah they both come off so weird in this; borderline delusional. Also Kamaru tryna say this has happened to Justin before against Dustin and Eddie when those were basically standing KOs not getting fucking flatlined.
@@evanlarsen9885yeah love him but he shouldn’t even have been in this segment because it became about Justin and his recovery somehow instead of celebrating an all time great MMA moment including seemingly almost purposefully bad career advice for Max 💀
@@evanlarsen9885 You're not understanding what hes saying, Hes obviously talking about being finished by strikes, i mean he literally put his chin in the air and started swinging, ANYONE gets put out like that. Both of Max Kos have come from both guys saying fuck it lets just swing it out, which is not the way you should fight if your goal is to win lol.
Respect to usman for giving max a hug afterwards and congratulating him. We all love Justin and watching him fight so I think it was hard on a lot of us. But max just idk what it is but he has these nights where it’s like no matter what he is not losing that night. It’s like max has these fuckin spiritual powers lol
It’s for the BMF. It isn’t if you win. It’s how you win. The BMF belt isn’t for applying takedowns for wins. Every BMF match up should have the most potential to end in KO
Max was the better fighter that night. Plain and simple. And lets not act like Max doesn't have superior take down defense. Can always play the coulda, shoulda. woulda, game. Regardless, it was one of, if not the greatest fight of all time.
Agreed bro which is why I believe Justin didn't shoot, because it's BMF for a reason.. When the thought of this belt was being pondered, at the time Nate and Jorge were the perfect/idea fighters. No grappling, wrestling, submissions, etc etc, just pure stand-up. They aren't fighting for the actual titles in whatever divisions/weight chosen, they're fighting to prove who's the baddest. Salute to both guys for delivering, and staying true to it.
Making the excuse that if Justin took him down and ground and pounded him... he has one takedown in the UFC. It was never ever going to happen. May as well put that both ways and say what if Max took Gaethje down..
Max definitely learned a lot from that fight and has improved - way he was managing distance this fight was really good. I feel like Volk is exiting his prime too.
Now this is what I like to see. 2 of best to ever do it giving insight and analysis. Not some nerds who’ve never fought giving profanity laced hot takes
😂 Kamaru didn't want to say that their wrestling brother Bo sucks or his fight sucked, but he found a way to relay that message, with his drink. Smooth.
Izzy looted Alex's bow and broke it after Alex's body was on the floor, Jamal did that thing while Alex was on his way to the octagon, bro misunderstood the whole emote, you can't take his bow when its equipped on his back coming to kill you
Realistically he wouldn’t have got knocked out if he was just fighting a “normal fight.” Was in a weird situation where he knew he’d lose the decision and max gave him a chance to win so he took it because he had nothing to lose. Easily could’ve made it through that without being KO’ed. Not like he was winning the fight and got sparked randomly cause his chin didn’t hold up. I get I’m splitting hairs but it would feel a lot different getting clipped if you got KO’ed in a fight you were winning. In this fight Justin obviously knew he was being reckless but there was nothing to lose. He wasn’t getting the decision.
Henry likes the term casual especially when talking about people who score the Justin vs max fight different than him….max was up 3-1 going into the 5th. Made an awful lot of excuses at the start of the podcast for Justin when there was absolutely no need to, with a broken nose he was in the fight still and Max gave him the opportunity to stand and bang for the last 10 seconds and that could ended the other way. Amazing show of heart and making excuses sheds an awful light on the best fight this year easily
I don’t know why people want to see McGregor fight anymore. The magic has been long gone, and he is approaching 36 so it’s likely to get worse. He hasn’t looked like a killer since the Alvarez fight, and that was over 8 years ago
Its a fight, 💩 happens. I don't believe Justin does it on purpose and neither did Max, I blame those crappy UFC gloves! They should be using Trevor's Onyx designs
Max landing that kick and the end of the 1st round changed the whole fight. Justin got caught a few times just like that…ducking to low. He couldn’t fight how he likes to
Gaethje fought the same way he always does. Ducks while guarding, ducks blindly throwing wild loopy shots and random doing a rolling thunder lol. That's the reason he lost to Oliveria. Everytime he ducked Oliveria throw a knee to the face. This time Max just did spinning wheel kicks. Same effect. Gaethje has really bad defensive in the striking. Trevor needs to correct that. The jab can only take you so far.
@@zealpulses3826 idk how you can say with a straight face that a broken nose doesn’t affect the fight. No way you’re that dumb. I’m not taking anything away from Max just pointing out when the fight changed.
@@zealpulses3826 Trevor is such a good coach I'm sure they've gone over that 1million times..... but Gaethje gonna Gaethje when that octagon door closes 😂 It's why people love to watch him fight!
@@InspectorButters4 That's so frustrating lol. Even Sean Strickland doesn't listen to his coach at times. That's why he lost the Cannonier and Dricus fight.
1:39 Henry trying so hard to fish for some type of excuse. Both guys came ready to fight, Gaethje has said it was the best he’s felt. He ran into a better fighter and that’s it. The whole “if Justin used his wrestling” thing is a tired argument that we say every time Justin struggles.
rewatching the fight, after Hill tags Alex with the right it seems like Alex lost all respect for his power and started to put forward pressure on Hill, which is the opposite of Hill’s game plan was. what a masterclass from Poatan
I am a huge Holloway fan that felt strongly there was a clear path to victory here but definitely did not see a cold KO as an option. Best of luck to Justin, showed heart and gave fans an all time great fight.
Im genuinely curious on Usman's opinion on Trevor's cornering. I feel like at times he is seriously downplaying when his fighter needs to make adjustments, particularly when they are losing. At times, I dont think he's aggressive enough to pump up the fighter and get them on the right pace. I have seen this a few times now, at least. I agree with Usman's talk about the wrestling. Justin shouldve wrestled.
Funny that toy say that cause ive been saying this exact same thing too. Trevor never seems to have a plan B, when plan A goes right, everything is perfect but as soon as plan A doesnt work, none of his fighters seem to be able to get the fight back in their hands
You might be right, but to play devils advocate with Justin in mind, he spent a while getting Justin to calm down and slow down and we’ve seen that can get the best Justin in the fight. Not saying the advice was right per se but I think if he gave Justin a big pump up speech Justin may get a bit reckless as we’ve seen in the past
Holloway TD would have caused Justin to get exhausted and finished earlier if he did that. There's no way in hell Justin would ever be able to hold him down for long if at all not to mention he will never want to do that. Max has always been notorious for good TD and recovery - dude always has popped straight back up.
Max isn’t the wrestler Justin is but I really don’t see any reason to believe with conviction that if Justin would have taken Max down Max would have been toast. Between the two Max seems to have the slicker ground game or at least would have just stood up. With that said maybe it could have opened up Max to a big shot.
Exactly man max doesn’t have the career he’s had without a great take down defense. Watch the first 2 volk fights and see how hard it was. To say that Justin 100% could take him down isn’t a for sure thing. Max imposed his best style and obviously had a great game plan for Justin. He didn’t just wing it and bang. Max was prepared it and carried out the game plan to the tee
apparently Usman left his sit after Justin got knocked out, he looked really upset, bro can't catch a break everybody he loves keeps getting knocked out
Damn man Henry asking all the tough questions. And Kamaru don’t wanna accept the facts. You just gotta give it to max he showed up the better man. And I really wonder if gaethje underestimated him 🤔
That was definitely career changing. He almost retired before for one more run at the title. That is now 100% over And usman keeps saying hes not taking anything away from max. No shit. You literally cant. No one can. That was legend shit
Wtf is all this crying for justin gaethje the dude was the favorite to win this fight and max whipped him and I don’t hear no credit given to max Holloway sad. Salute to Holloway BMF!
This is a good podcast, these guys are on the latter parts of their careers and they can spit wisdom. Unlike guys with 2-5 fights in the UFC doing podcasts😂
Wow. Crazy to see fighters evolution. Kamaru seems like hes almost ready to start commentating and a fan favorite just like that when he couldn't get a fight at a point
Great podcast guys! I love how y’all are able to keep it real and respectful. For example when talking about Aljo and his performance yall both stated that the fight wasn’t the most entertaining but y’all gave Aljo credit. Same thing happened throughout with the other fights.
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show like this won't hit 100k..plus you guys are all losers...
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imagine thinking you need to sell the fight for ppv sales on ufc 300 ☠☠☠☠
I had no idea that Usman could give such a good analysis. He was spot on and eloquent when describing Justin's fight with Max, his fight history and willingness to throw down with Max in the final 10 seconds. Nice work.
@@ShinyEagle1dang bro did Chandler steal ur girl or slap ur momma?? 🤣 Why u hate him so bad? Lol, I'm def rooting for McNuggets too but Chandler seems like a solid, decent dude. I'm genuinely curious why the hate tho ✌️
The kick on the nose was the biggest game changer for gaethje, he couldn’t do anything after that unfortunately
he didn’t look great that whole first round. but maybe that was part of the game plan to start slow
Didn't the knockdown come after that?
Cope
Bro he got rocked so many times by Long jabs. Also all the body damage over time plus the Nose. And the eye pokes. Justin was hurting bad the whole fight.
he seems different from the one who fought on 291, so weird to see him like that.
I feel like it definitely is career changing, gaethje is 35 now and just got brutally knocked out and also lost his chance at his last title fight. It was biggest 0 reward 100 risk fight and that’s why justin really is a BMF
Yeah not to mention he tanked two proper eye pokes in each eye and a broken nose. Most fighters would have milked those eye pokes especially with the state of his nose, but he's not that guy.
He's a real friend. It would always hurt to see your friends get hurt
@@inphamous3494those eye pokes were bad, but nothing we havent seen before. I dont believe that the fight wouldve been different without the eye pokes
He did make an extra 300k for the bonus to be fair
@@MMAOdin You're right but I'm talking more on how with the state of his nose it would already feel like everything is going against you. Also he didn't take out time for either of them. If he did I think the nose coulda been dealt with more. But it wouldn't have changed the outcome. Max was too sharp that day.
Justin Gaethje had no reason to take this fight but he did it for the fans and that’s why’s he’s a forever BMF, and he left his all in that octagon.
Maybe he wasnt ever the greatest but man he is a fight fans fighter, Max is just better. Both are badasses and though Gaetjhe may now be done in the top 5 I'll always be a fan of his
are you the new peter griffin commenter?
Naww, money talks.
I mean Justin was probably the top contender for the Makhachev fight but he risked that opportunity to fight Max. It unfortunately resulted in him losing his last ever title chance but man these men gave us one hell of a fight.@@Khadersheriff
@@canelkoc8726 Sure but the
definitely the first checkbox was money here,
Then the 2 or 3rd was entertaining fans.
Gaethje is smart to enough to know this sport just keeps on asking for more and more blood.
He most probably took it for money and maybe his Team thought it's easy fight for Gaethje
Re brutal knockouts, Kamaru delivered one, then received one, then saw his brothers Izzy and Francis fall, and now his stable mate Justin. Nobody’s immune!
It’s the game 🤷🏽♂️
Only Khabib and Henry have been immune to avoiding knockouts
@@ssj4goku18825theepic Henry Cejudo got knocked out by MM
@@kingt0295He got hit in the body, that’s not the same as being knocked unconscious. But yes he’s been stopped
@@Diablopray yeah true. You’re never going to truly sleep Henry’s massive Mexican head
Must be very rough to see a good friend get knocked out like that. Gaethje a real gangster too for going full blast the last ten seconds. Live by the sword, die by the sword🔥
facts
Yup that’s why he’s got death before dishonor tatted
@@Stopvotingdemocratvery well said.
Gaethje is definitely proud but humble at the same time, he’s an action man, entertainer as well as a great fighter. Definitely aril has my respect and many others for a reason.
Max as well.
I mean Max is the REAL gangster cause he was likely up 4 rounds & willingly initiated that final exchange , props to Gaethje for taking that fight tho because he didn’t need to.. nothing to gain , everything to lose
Max is basically #1 contender in 2 division and the BMF champ … great position to be in !!! Happy for the dude
I think he’s #3 in lightweight now. Arman is #1 now unfortunately and Charles #2 😢
@@Seass42069well Charles just lost and if Justin would’ve waited he would be fighting islam next. So he is now the #1 or #2 behind arman
@@Seass42069Charles is not fighting for the belt anytime soon
apparently he’s #9 which makes no fucking sense
Cheeyeah Max is the Blessed Man Forever! Long live our Polynesian King!
Seeing usmans reaction in the arena to gaethje getting knocked out hurt and even in this podcast right now, you can really see his emotions
Yea . Especially after being an active helper in Gaetje’s camp .
I haven’t seen that yet. Now they have both seen eachother mega slept in iconic moments lol
@@TransitionedToAShark What are you talking sbout geathji hss been slet by eddie alavesrez years ago and dustin porier too as well as khabib
Bro how many comments are u gonna post 🤣
@@isaacalzate8262 that wasn’t iconic, his first loss but not an iconic moment and he wasn’t asleep
usman was so annoyed with henry the whole ep 🤣🤣
Hell yeah lol!!
that was the funniest part
Hahaha 😂
i thought the same thing lmfao
1:05:27 henry u good bro😭😭😭😭
kamaru usman is a natural at the podcast game. hes a great listener and then gives thoughtful answers.
Ankalaev said “ make no mistake I will strike with him not wrestle “ I bet not no more 😂
Not a chance and if he does, at that point Alex has an ability better than his left hook. His mythical ability to get everyone to want to kickbox with him in some sort of dick measuring contest lol
Im glad usman said it, people coping saying hill was out of shape when he was actually in the best shape we've seen him in so far 🤣
Yes i agree in Usman.. i dont like henrys assesment to it
Omg dude so many are even now saying Hill was caught off guard bc of Herb even though it was a good 5-6 seconds after Herb was well outve the way. Absurd.
jamahal hill doesnt deserve a #1 contenders fight with jiri, he just gave pereira the easiest fight of his entire career and lost as definitively as possible, he should get rakic
he should fight rakic
Should get a tune up. Maybe rematch his brother
@@rejachemno😂😂😂
@@darrowolykos8468 Rakic makes easy work of him
Paul Craig rematch. Jk Paul moved down to 185 but I bet jammy Hal would love to avenge that sub loss. Hall Hill
Nah Henry actually has to be trolling Usman💀💀💀💀
Right lol, Kamaru is irritated asf
Lol
0:37 "What we never want to happen, what we fear the most in this sport happened this weekend... Max Holloway went ultra instinct again"
Gaethje was never going to beat Islam either striking or wrestling - yes this loss puts him out of title contention but it solidifies him as a fan favorite legend that 9/10 people would rather watch than any current or former champion.
10/10
I think in striking he has a chance against everybody
Usman's face when Henry spoke about Israle Adesanya not wanting the smoke with Pereira at 34min got me on the basement floor 😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Kevin is a wild guy for that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kamaru: now I understand the position I put them in in Salt Lake City(his friends and family being worried after he got knocked out)
Trevor: 😀
Trevor laughs in dan hooker
🤣🤣🤣💀
😂😂😂👌🏾
Henry be talking wild😂
7:07
boys chirpin
Bro at 34:20 it got wild 😭😭😭 Kamaru was not having it 😭😭😭🤣🤣
He speaks as if Usman is retired or had a slop career. Henry be talking out his ass and has some dumb views
AND HASNT WON A FIGHT SINCE HE CAME BACK!😅😂😅😂😂😂
Henrey imitating Alex had me in tears 😂
Such a bad impression Usman felt the cringe
Usman is such an insightful guy - his analysis is always on point and he understands the game well. The bits about Jamahal not switching from a Fighting mindset to a Winning mindset is so true and clearly something that he’s wrestled with in his own career (no pun intended).
My favorite thing about this podcast is Usman is truly speaking his opinion. Even if he doesnt agree with Henry. They're not just trying to agree with each other. This is a high value part of this podcast format and discussions. It's why I don't listen to the O'malley podcast. I love Tim Welch's wisdom, but I'd rather hear that on Tim's TH-cam channel than the podcast where O'Malley isn't sharing his own thoughts and opinions on things and just agreeing with the opinion with everyone around him.
Love it. Also, the way he listens. To be fair they both do that. Not a lot of interrupting
Kamaru's patience with Henry is astounding. Cejudo is a 4th grader in the body of an 8th grader. He doesnt seem to understand anything he hears.
You can always count on Henry to say something goofy 🤪 when Usman is talking about something serious/close to him 😂😂😂
I’m already 5 minutes into this video and Kamaru is making excuses for Justin’s loss. Justin lost man. Max is and was the better fighter. There’s no excuses needing made
Not really, Henry asked what improvements Justin could have made, and Kamaru answered him?
@@chrisrosser8518he started talking about a shitty weight cut. Did you miss that part? Kamaru is bias even when his dude losses
@@_NoBuddyCaresright and that’s gonna affect the fight, obviously even without those issues I still think max would have won, but they are still hindrances and maybe Justin might not have been KOed THAT BADLY
@@ADU17for sure but the narrative going into this fight was that they knew about this fight back in October. Losing like he did, knowing he knew about the fight 6 months ago, it seems like sour grapes to consider he had a bad weight cut.
Not the better fighter in my opinion.. he got caught in the face with the back kick and got his nose broken. It was THAT fact that turned the fight
Trevor whitman went from one of the best to now, over 6 losses , bad losses, between 3 fighters in last 3 years. Ouch
Happened to eugene bareman too
To be fair, his fighters are aging, both are over 34.
@none_the_less truth is, it's hard to work your way to the top. But it's even harder to stay there. More obligations, more distractions
It's hard too big as hungry waking up in silk sheets and flying private
@@BodyByRichalso the fact that people can gameplan and watch tape on your coaching style especiall6 if your on the main stage. Works for fighters as much as coaches.
@@BodyByRich More people game planning for you too. Thats why we gotta appreciate these guys at the top and understand when it all crumbles down.
People are getting caught in hype. Aspinal would wrestle him to dust because he’s well rounded and at heavyweight would be much larger. Don’t ruin the light heavyweight star.
💯💯💯
For real, Tom has way better wrestling, way better BJJ, prob a 20-25lb weight advantage, and a ridiculous chin. Alex is crazy powerful but Tom took a super clean shot from that tank Pavlovich, ate that 💩 for dinner then sparked him out like 30 seconds later. Poatan vs Ciryl Gane would be INSANE tho!! It'd be 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@InspectorButters4 honestly the shot he ate wasn’t anything crazy, Pav caught him with a short left while off balance.. Alex would shut your boy Aspinal off with a clean shot.
i am a diehard Max Holloway fans. i think this is a fair assesment. just want to give so much credit to Justin. Broken nose, 2 eye pokes, got beaten, but still moving forward like a warrior. what a lion.
What a Homer Simpson, you mean. He has always relied on bullying guys with his power. That is why Dustin Poirier was gutted he got beaten by him: skill-for-skill, Gaethje is not even a top 10 fighter.
A title shot with Khabib? I think you pretty much have to be a Top 10 fighter… also, he’s beat a lot of solid guys in the UFC. Not sure what you’re on about?
@@armyofone118 That's all right if you don't get it.
@@johnboylan3832salty man, he obviously got more technical over time ie his fiziev win. he just got outclassed by max. don’t kick him while he’s down ffs
@@aurahbeats8871 Why would I be 'salty' about being proven right. Every time he can't bully someone, he loses. Go and watch his fights. He got outclassed because he is technically very poor in his striking. None of you numbnuts even understand anyway - me saying skill-for-skill he is not top 10 doesn't mean he can't win fights or isn't a top 10 fighter overall. It means he is subpar technically and relies on physicality, aggression, and his chin to win fights i.e. he has a definite ceiling on how far he can go, as has been proven in his two title fight loses and again on Saturday.
Justin is a BMF and always will be. Had all the right in the world to turn this fight down but still showed up and showed out because he knew this was a fight for the people. Hats off to both men I was so happy to see his Tweet saying he's in good spirits with his family afterwards. He is loved by many and will go down as a warrior!
I usually enjoy Usman's analysis but this weekend's protagonists I think are just too close for him to be completely honest.
All emotions. Slick said some weird stuff
Yeah honestly I been a fan of him for 5+ years. After this I have to step back. I understand he's ur brother. Be truthful and solid like a real man or don't make a video if you can't be professional. CCC did a good job.
I hope that this isn’t Justin’s “Tony” fight. That was a lot of damage he took, not quite like what he dealt to Tony but I don’t think we always recognize what that does to someone. Credit to both fighters, they really made it a night for the fans and we should be grateful
😧😐
I doubt it but he is 35 now…
it could very well be man, he got pieced up for 24:59 and put out cold at the bell, not to mention what this does mentally
It was his "Tony" fight, even the way the fight happened in the first place. Justin took a fight he didn't have to, for a belt he already had and if he sat out he was guaranteed a title shot. These are the same circumstances with which Tony fought Justin
Gaethje got absolutely schooled bell to bell. Respect to him taking that fight. But Max is levels above.
It was the bodyshots and the mixing of targets from Max that froze Gaetchje in this fight. Teep to the leg, body jab, left hook. Even in that finishing sequence, Max brought Gaetchje’s hands down with two nasty bodyshots right before sleeping him.
It was 4 body shots then right Hook
@@curtfox91 Bodyshots pay off in the long run.
His hands were already down, he was stiff in the pocket and Max hit him with a huge momentum hook. No body shots opened him to that KO it was a chaotic exchange by Max
Yeah, because Gaethje has r'tard level fight IQ.
@@jetMan365 Go watch that exchange again guy! Max, like he did all night targeted the body first then Head shot, like a skilled boxer should do, in that exchange. 2 body shots ( I didn't see 4), then overhand right K.O. Why do you think Justin brought his hands down to cover?
Henry looks high as balls, like he just got put to sleep to get his wisdom teeth out and they wheelchaired him to a podcast room, smacked him awake, dumped him in his chair and said "and we're live!" And let him ramble nonsensically
Kamaru calling that last 10 second Justin’s move is hilarious… Max called him to the middle of the octagon and Max did it before…. That was Max’s move.
Yeah they both come off so weird in this; borderline delusional. Also Kamaru tryna say this has happened to Justin before against Dustin and Eddie when those were basically standing KOs not getting fucking flatlined.
@@evanlarsen9885yeah love him but he shouldn’t even have been in this segment because it became about Justin and his recovery somehow instead of celebrating an all time great MMA moment including seemingly almost purposefully bad career advice for Max 💀
@@evanlarsen9885 You're not understanding what hes saying, Hes obviously talking about being finished by strikes, i mean he literally put his chin in the air and started swinging, ANYONE gets put out like that.
Both of Max Kos have come from both guys saying fuck it lets just swing it out, which is not the way you should fight if your goal is to win lol.
Yeah haters@@evanlarsen9885
@@fmgmackso bias ruining this special. Moment
Respect to usman for giving max a hug afterwards and congratulating him. We all love Justin and watching him fight so I think it was hard on a lot of us. But max just idk what it is but he has these nights where it’s like no matter what he is not losing that night. It’s like max has these fuckin spiritual powers lol
Usman calling Max out for fouls is hilarious lmao
Usman got it twisted. Masvidal took that fight on 6 days notice
Usman simply accepted the fight on 6 days notice being in shape for 5rds
It’s for the BMF. It isn’t if you win. It’s how you win. The BMF belt isn’t for applying takedowns for wins. Every BMF match up should have the most potential to end in KO
Max was the better fighter that night. Plain and simple. And lets not act like Max doesn't have superior take down defense. Can always play the coulda, shoulda. woulda, game. Regardless, it was one of, if not the greatest fight of all time.
Kamaru your wrong, BMF’S don’t shoot takedowns! This belt is for fighting not cuddling
Nobody saying to lay and pray but you gotta mix it up and use the wrestling to set up the striking
@@letmegetuhhh3959that’s exactly why usman and Henry would never fight for BMF
Bro it’s MMA, not kickboxing, that includes grappling 😂, you can definitely be an entertaining grappler and Justin of all people probably would be
I think if its very active mix of TD and striking and not holding onto positions with fast scrambles it qualifies.
Agreed bro which is why I believe Justin didn't shoot, because it's BMF for a reason..
When the thought of this belt was being pondered, at the time Nate and Jorge were the perfect/idea fighters.
No grappling, wrestling, submissions, etc etc, just pure stand-up.
They aren't fighting for the actual titles in whatever divisions/weight chosen, they're fighting to prove who's the baddest.
Salute to both guys for delivering, and staying true to it.
Making the excuse that if Justin took him down and ground and pounded him... he has one takedown in the UFC. It was never ever going to happen.
May as well put that both ways and say what if Max took Gaethje down..
Right
Alex's third fight with Max is gonna age like wine, dude dominated Max like no one has ever done
True. Seeing Max win that way vs Justin, Alex must have a big confidence boost right now. After 2 KOs, he really needed it.
Max definitely learned a lot from that fight and has improved - way he was managing distance this fight was really good. I feel like Volk is exiting his prime too.
@@MimiPipoo No one beats age
@@sorelvio79 lol jon jones might fight til 50 being champ considering he fights once every 2 years 😂
Max was robbed i think in the second fight sadly:)
AMAZING breakdowns, one issue we need MORE! Great job LEGENDS!
The last 10 second defined the BMF belt.
Now this is what I like to see. 2 of best to ever do it giving insight and analysis. Not some nerds who’ve never fought giving profanity laced hot takes
really good podcast, henry directs the conversations very well and its awesome to have insight from usman as well.
😂 Kamaru didn't want to say that their wrestling brother Bo sucks or his fight sucked, but he found a way to relay that message, with his drink. Smooth.
Izzy looted Alex's bow and broke it after Alex's body was on the floor, Jamal did that thing while Alex was on his way to the octagon, bro misunderstood the whole emote, you can't take his bow when its equipped on his back coming to kill you
No, he pretended to catch the arrow the Alex shoots during his walk to the octagon.
Justin jinxed himself before the fight. I remember her taking pride in the fact that he's never been put out. He should've knocked on wood, damn
He forgot that Eddie knocked him out back in 2017 when he was tired as hell and Dustin also basically put the break loose on him
@@ssj4goku18825theepic it was more knock down
Realistically he wouldn’t have got knocked out if he was just fighting a “normal fight.” Was in a weird situation where he knew he’d lose the decision and max gave him a chance to win so he took it because he had nothing to lose. Easily could’ve made it through that without being KO’ed. Not like he was winning the fight and got sparked randomly cause his chin didn’t hold up. I get I’m splitting hairs but it would feel a lot different getting clipped if you got KO’ed in a fight you were winning. In this fight Justin obviously knew he was being reckless but there was nothing to lose. He wasn’t getting the decision.
He literally said he didnt plan to be alive on sunday. If anything he lived up to his words
@@Not_a_bot1234I mean he almost got knocked out earlier that round and in the beginning of the fourth if you remember so I don’t know about easily
Henry likes the term casual especially when talking about people who score the Justin vs max fight different than him….max was up 3-1 going into the 5th.
Made an awful lot of excuses at the start of the podcast for Justin when there was absolutely no need to, with a broken nose he was in the fight still and Max gave him the opportunity to stand and bang for the last 10 seconds and that could ended the other way. Amazing show of heart and making excuses sheds an awful light on the best fight this year easily
Yeah ruined it for me
But its true. Having a broken nose after 1 round against Max is a nightmare. You cant fall behind lile that against him.
The amount if damage Justin took was absolutly riduculus. Holloway is a scary dude. He is so good its unreal and badass at the same time
Ayy that was me and my video at 52:49 with Jiri lol much love for giving credit. Big fan of the pod 🫡
You Guys forget Max is also very dangerous on the ground. You cant play ifs, this was just de outcome of a very beautiful fight
Yeah I'd love to see that. Max would submit him. Very underrated ground
@@outlawpat8038 BMF means no grappling lol
Lmao even Triple C calling izzy out for being scared to fight alex again
Winner of Chandler vs Mcgregor = Max's first BMF title defense makes the most sense in my opinion
I don’t know why people want to see McGregor fight anymore. The magic has been long gone, and he is approaching 36 so it’s likely to get worse. He hasn’t looked like a killer since the Alvarez fight, and that was over 8 years ago
That would be fun.
@@kevinseay6053yep. It’s sad but that Mcgregor hasn’t existed since he fought Mayweather and cashed in. Never been the same guy since
Justin Gaethje had TWO opportunities to have that fight called a no contest and he chose not to. Justin is the MAN!
Marty can’t be like “nah Justin will never be the same” or else it means he ain’t the same
Justin went from being Justin high light to becoming maxs high light reel 😂
Now I know why Justin lost, Usman was peicing him up backstage in the warmup 😂😂
Everyone needs to stop finding excuses for their fighters sometimes it’s just not your night that’s the best part of this sport.
Justin's eyepoked nearly everyone he's ever fought
Wrong
Its a fight, 💩 happens. I don't believe Justin does it on purpose and neither did Max, I blame those crappy UFC gloves! They should be using Trevor's Onyx designs
Name the opponents he’s eyepoked
@@Romanus-barboza,dustin,fiziev,max
Max landing that kick and the end of the 1st round changed the whole fight. Justin got caught a few times just like that…ducking to low. He couldn’t fight how he likes to
Gaethje fought the same way he always does. Ducks while guarding, ducks blindly throwing wild loopy shots and random doing a rolling thunder lol. That's the reason he lost to Oliveria. Everytime he ducked Oliveria throw a knee to the face. This time Max just did spinning wheel kicks. Same effect. Gaethje has really bad defensive in the striking. Trevor needs to correct that. The jab can only take you so far.
@@zealpulses3826 idk how you can say with a straight face that a broken nose doesn’t affect the fight. No way you’re that dumb. I’m not taking anything away from Max just pointing out when the fight changed.
@@zealpulses3826 Trevor is such a good coach I'm sure they've gone over that 1million times..... but Gaethje gonna Gaethje when that octagon door closes 😂 It's why people love to watch him fight!
@@InspectorButters4 That's so frustrating lol. Even Sean Strickland doesn't listen to his coach at times. That's why he lost the Cannonier and Dricus fight.
1:39 Henry trying so hard to fish for some type of excuse. Both guys came ready to fight, Gaethje has said it was the best he’s felt. He ran into a better fighter and that’s it. The whole “if Justin used his wrestling” thing is a tired argument that we say every time Justin struggles.
I had no idea the two of you joined up for a show. Great duo! I'll be around for awhile.
rewatching the fight, after Hill tags Alex with the right it seems like Alex lost all respect for his power and started to put forward pressure on Hill, which is the opposite of Hill’s game plan was. what a masterclass from Poatan
As soon as Henry speaks about a fighter with a great wrestling base you know he is going to praise him no matter what...
Kamara is a real friend. True brother.
100% agree with Usman, a BMF asks when where and what time, and doesn’t say no
Sucks for Gaehje, but tbf, it was his choice to swang n' bang. He has a "death before dishonor" tat, he died doing what he loved lol
This pod is just Henry talking wild then Kamaru coming in with sense
Max was just better on that night, so no need for sny exuses for the loss, but there is no shame in loosing to one of the sports GOATS!
Usman thank you for this podcast! I couldn’t sleep for 2 days but turning this on and hearing your by the camp fire voice put me to sleep asap!
Stop making excuses Max is just better… we all love Justin but he’s predictable and a striker as smart and quick as Max is just to much for him
I love how The Nightmare refers to Justin as " Us/We " what a great friend, nothing but respect.
I remember Justin saying he declined the fight before because he didn’t want to hurt max
I am a huge Holloway fan that felt strongly there was a clear path to victory here but definitely did not see a cold KO as an option. Best of luck to Justin, showed heart and gave fans an all time great fight.
Im genuinely curious on Usman's opinion on Trevor's cornering. I feel like at times he is seriously downplaying when his fighter needs to make adjustments, particularly when they are losing. At times, I dont think he's aggressive enough to pump up the fighter and get them on the right pace. I have seen this a few times now, at least. I agree with Usman's talk about the wrestling. Justin shouldve wrestled.
Funny that toy say that cause ive been saying this exact same thing too. Trevor never seems to have a plan B, when plan A goes right, everything is perfect but as soon as plan A doesnt work, none of his fighters seem to be able to get the fight back in their hands
Cope harder
You might be right, but to play devils advocate with Justin in mind, he spent a while getting Justin to calm down and slow down and we’ve seen that can get the best Justin in the fight. Not saying the advice was right per se but I think if he gave Justin a big pump up speech Justin may get a bit reckless as we’ve seen in the past
i've noticed this too thanks for pointing this out
Holloway TD would have caused Justin to get exhausted and finished earlier if he did that. There's no way in hell Justin would ever be able to hold him down for long if at all not to mention he will never want to do that. Max has always been notorious for good TD and recovery - dude always has popped straight back up.
Love these guys having a channel together.
when Max fights Ilia it won't be for the BMF he doesn't deserve that even with the Volk KO. it'll be for the 145 belt DASSIT
I would never have expected these fighters to be working together, but damn this is good stuff!
Max isn’t the wrestler Justin is but I really don’t see any reason to believe with conviction that if Justin would have taken Max down Max would have been toast. Between the two Max seems to have the slicker ground game or at least would have just stood up. With that said maybe it could have opened up Max to a big shot.
Exactly man max doesn’t have the career he’s had without a great take down defense. Watch the first 2 volk fights and see how hard it was. To say that Justin 100% could take him down isn’t a for sure thing. Max imposed his best style and obviously had a great game plan for Justin. He didn’t just wing it and bang. Max was prepared it and carried out the game plan to the tee
You guys are takinnnng ovaaaa!! The Best pod cast.
apparently Usman left his sit after Justin got knocked out, he looked really upset, bro can't catch a break everybody he loves keeps getting knocked out
That's The Game🤷♀️ They Also Knocked Out Other Peoples Family Members out Too!😁 That's how it feels.
@@helenamuniz5269Irrelevant comment, stop yapping
@@MysticMarble no, she's bein reasonable, you stop yapping. Or you think only you here have the right to have an opinion? get lost, will ya
@@MysticMarble not gonna get laid anytime soon with that attitude
@@MysticMarbleget lost you are the one capping
Damn man Henry asking all the tough questions. And Kamaru don’t wanna accept the facts. You just gotta give it to max he showed up the better man. And I really wonder if gaethje underestimated him 🤔
Why Kamaru talking like the middle in the ring was his doing max called it he just obliged lol
That was definitely career changing. He almost retired before for one more run at the title. That is now 100% over
And usman keeps saying hes not taking anything away from max. No shit. You literally cant. No one can. That was legend shit
Wtf is all this crying for justin gaethje the dude was the favorite to win this fight and max whipped him and I don’t hear no credit given to max Holloway sad. Salute to Holloway BMF!
Usman face when he was talm bout izzy he was like change da subject😂
Happy to say I’ve completely gone off usman. Good riddance 👍👍
1:20:40 Mad Respect Kamaru for appreciating the fact that Poirier is still that dawg
Almost an hour and a half length but no time stamps or chapters?
yeah kinda weird
I thought I seen them in the comment section
Time stamps are in the description
Marty is so delusional about Justin lol
I think that’s absolutely career changing for Justin.
This podcast is getting big man
This is a good podcast, these guys are on the latter parts of their careers and they can spit wisdom. Unlike guys with 2-5 fights in the UFC doing podcasts😂
Wow. Crazy to see fighters evolution. Kamaru seems like hes almost ready to start commentating and a fan favorite just like that when he couldn't get a fight at a point
Time stamp?
Kamaru lost me when he said “okay” after Henry did the signature move
“If Justin would have done some ground and pound” 😂😂😂 dude never even attempted a takedown these guys are delusional
Great podcast guys! I love how y’all are able to keep it real and respectful. For example when talking about Aljo and his performance yall both stated that the fight wasn’t the most entertaining but y’all gave Aljo credit. Same thing happened throughout with the other fights.