BM on Fandom Slang & Fan Culture | GET REAL S3 Ep. #33
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Let's welcome back BM of KARD to this week's Get Real episode! BM and the hosts discuss their interests in acting and fandom culture in the music industry.
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Peniel didn't forget to mention "of BTOB" even when Ashley introduce herself as Peniel..aaa my melody heart🥺
I would die to see fans on the show, like that actually sounds so fun.
Shout out to Melody, Hidden Kard and Lavely.. lets be the best, non toxic fandom to our fav 💙
I love being a Lavely I’ll make sure we’ll be there to support Melodys and Hiddens because we don’t really have that many mutual fandom friends (at least in the public spectrum)
YES!! A Melody here 🎉I love so many artists and groups and glad that we’re not toxic ❤
As a Hidden, yes ❤️🔥❤️🔥 never had many occasions to interact with Melody and Lavely, but we're all pretty chill fandoms and that's getting rare in the kpop-sphere sadly
@@tatianawilliams if you ever want to talk to us Lavely I’m always around to answer questions and stuff
Yes! I love being an hidden Kard
9:52 Ashley to Peniel : Give me your best Gangster line
Peniel : "SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND"🤣
THAT MADE ME START CRYING 😭
That little friend is def bangchann😭
27:34 What is POB in fandom slang ?
Peniel : Pre order because I'm busy on the release date
🤣🤣🤣
BM asking fans on twt about slang was a field day fr
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It was so funny💀
lmfao it really was😭
It was so fun 😂😂
i'm so happy they at least acknowledged not all of us are toxic! also just a reminder: you're a fan of your faves no matter what anyone else says. you don't need to own certain things to be considered a fan, the duration of how long you've been supporting doesn't matter, and you're allowed to worry about other things other than your faves! just have fun and appreciate the music
This 👏👏👏👏👏
Wow this comment is ✨🫶💜😘
I'm a kpop fan, but I also respect their privacy. "Being real can heal, being fake is a mistake" - Me
@@CarsonGiology4155 likewise! we don’t need to know every single detail about them nor have the right to invade their privacy, simply bc we’re fans. at the end of the day, i’m convinced they’d appreciate being treated like any other person, with respect 🤍 it makes me happy to know there are fans out there who respect idols and give them their space. unfortunately, there’s a handful who don’t understand boundaries :/
@@odrism.8507 i’m so happy many agree!
Intro - 1:20
BM taking Acting Classes - 1:44
Peniel's Natural Aegyo - 6:04
BM's Take on Good Acting - 15:30
Fan-Culture and Slangs - 21:27
Fandom language Quiz - 22:23
Funniest fandom slangs - 28:01
Do the hosts consider themselves in any fandoms? - 29:19
Early fandoms / "Reply 1997" - 31:24
Photocard Re-sales - 31:52
Kpop Concert experience - 33:27
Pokemon Obsession - 36:39
Fandom Names - 39:33
Kpop fan toxicity - 40:40
Competition/cult/fanwars (Being #1, Streaming culture, losing sleep) - 42:26
"Oppar!" Ashley - 43:46
Hate commenters/keyboard warriors - 45:32
Meeting/interacting with fans in person - 46:29
Communicating with fans thru social media/SNS - 50:26
Cancel Culture - 53:34
Last words to fans - 55:30
KARD and BtoB's Comeback - 59:52
BM's shoutout to that one guy in Los Angeles - 1:00:54
You're welcome! ;)
thank you!
Thanks 😊
Thanks youuuu !!
Legend 🫡
A hero ❤
Peniel shows his love for melodies through action he is not much of a word guy but he always try to include us in many things especially for international melodies he always interprete what he is saying in two d/t language and he always give us reassurance when something happens....... From what i've seen BM genuinely loves his fans....And ashley my love,words can't express how much melodies love you we ride at dawn for you ashley
The way none of them even bothers to change clothes anymore, even Ashley 😂 i havent finished this ep yet but thanks for the 1 hour episode!!!
Peniel was so cute saying "we are the Pokemon?" 😂
btob member hyunsik is the rare water Pokemon, so yes, you are pokemons 🤭
"Penelope, Big Matilda and Ashley" lol 😂.. I love it ❤
So real for talking about the toxic fans, i hate seeing fans go against each other. When I think of toxic, it makes me think of the fans that swarm the airports... like can we just let our artist breath?
Ngl they are one of the most outstanding trio out there love their chemistry ❤ welcome back BM! we missed you🖐
‘Constructive criticism culture’. Some people are so imaginative in their communication like Peniel.
BM is so kind.
I love seeing Ashley happy on her TH-cam channel.
Good on BM for being so strong, sending so much light and love to his family since his mom is battle breast cancer!
This is such an important episode. Three very experienced kpop musicians that are also multicultural dropping great insight.
Peniel teasing Ashley by bringing up the ninja thing 🤣
32:28 😭 BM I have sold one of your cards before (and other members) but only cause I had 2 copies. I ordered 4 albums to get each members Makestar POB from KARD's last comeback and also ended up winning a solo call with J.Seph so as a winner I got a second set of the same cards on top of the set that already came with 😅 but I also safely resold the extra albums with everything they came with so people who didn't have the album already could get it. Nothing got carelessly thrown away everything has a home 🥺 not all of us resellers are bad
I’m laughing at Ashley’s interpretation of OOMF🤣🤣
I thought its "oh..oh my freaking gosh "😂😂😂😂😂
I just loved the way they talked about fan culture. It's so true and the way Ashley and BM said MELODY's are so strong and healthy fandom 🥺 i felt so proud of my Fam 🫶💙❤️ and Peniel saying they take after their idols 😌 that's my best boy 💙❤️🫶
I agree with BM. Having fans on GET REAL would be so tight.
40:44 kinda ironic that BTOB and KARD are known for having some of the chillest fans. I’m a proud melody and hidden kard haha
this is definitely one of the REALEST EPISODES OF GET REAL. I've wanted to hear them talk about fan culture and the good/bad side on it. I love that Ashley was speaking up loudly about this!! Much love to you all Peniel, BM, and Ashley!
Shout out to those well mannered fans whatever fandom you belong. 🙌👏❤
Get Real's fandom's name should be "The Realest"
oooh i love it!
Or “The Truth” 😂
@@bubbles8270 that would be so funny
I am truth
Can we please make it a thing
When you mentioned the lightsticks, I remembered another kpop slang: black ocean. It's one of the saddest, I think. A black ocean happens when a fandom turns off their lightsticks collectively to "hurt" a group they don't like while the group is on stage performing. I think it has happened mostly at award ceremonies/concerts, because many fandoms gather there. Overall, black oceans are a sign of disrespect that we despise, because all artists deserve to see an audience with lights on for them.
And the reason some fandoms have done it comes from fanwars (another slang xd). Fans not necessarily hate the artists, probably don't even know their music, but if the fandoms become "rivals", they might do black oceans to the other just to prove that "my faves have more fans than yours" kinda thing.
Edit: faves is another word we use a lot, but it's not specifically kpop slang, I think.
Wtfffff
Bruh wat I didn't even know that was a thing
Oh yeah, it is! Something sad and disrespectful, most of the times :(
Yeah I saw videos of that
Yeah for real.. Its really a heartbreaking moment for the artist who have experienced that. I recently saw some videos of Black pink Jennie getting a black ocean while the group performed in Indonesia. Getting hate from their own fandom is quite depressing. As a blink, Indonesian fans shouldn't have treated her like that . I hope she get lots of support from her other fans and blinks
peniel and ashley working hard on that bm/katie loveline, i appreciate the hustle
I pray for the good health and blessing for BTOB, KARD and Ladies Code and each of our fandom as well as the Dive Studios fam. Thank you for this show ❤
as a hidden kard, i started watching the podcast to support bm and have been so blessed to meet many incredible people, and it's because of this show that i started listening to a lot of amazing artists (such as ph-1 and junny! who literally dominate my spotify fr) but above all getting to know ladies code and btob, especially once kingdom started. i started watching ashley and joan's youtube. it all became such a safe space for me. thank YOU for all your hard work, dedication, and above all the honesty.
Peniel " of BTOB" as always 🤍💙😉
BTOB members always bringing their group's name in their individual projects 💕
Which Korean actor was bm talking about?
Seon sok goo
i think definitely the industry pumps this idea to fans head if they dont stream their idols are gonna fall out of popularity and disband, so in the end the company profits bc of this and eventually their are those people that get overly obsessed with streaming and can become aggressive/toxic to other fans or fandoms for not streaming. its super sad what the greed of capitalism can do to people.
im so glad ashley mentioned abt the toxicity bcs it needs to be said! and peniel making sure to add btob at first was so cute
I'll never get tired of listening to this trio. It's so chill. They were my happy pill during pandemic lockdown. It's thanks to them that I was able to keep my sanity intact during those trying times. Thanks guys. ❤❤❤
Thanks for those Harry and BM's episodes! I'm feeling spoiled
Fan wars were a thing even 10 years ago. The only difference that before the vibe in general was nice because kpop wasn’t that huge back in the day and people tried to find some friends in that small community. Sometimes it wasn’t that easy because it wasn’t cool to be a kpop fan. Nowadays when kpop gets bigger there are so many toxic fans who disrespect previous generations and act like their idols are the only ones who make kpop globally famous. Shame on them.
fan wars were a thing 25 years ago. they used to be pretty intense too from what I hear.
@@rkhandle actual fighting occured
@@edwardac3440 lol. imagine them ajumas now reminiscing about their fights way back in the days. pretty sure they must be around 35-43 year old range.
Yeah..if you ain't know who TVXQ are give respect...you have no clue
The "vibe" in the past might have been nice for foreign fans, but it most certainly wasn't for Korean fans. The fanwars of 1st and 2nd gen groups are legendary. Straight up brawls, property damage, physical injury, even rape allegations were not out of the question. And that's just what fans did to each other, what some did to the idols they didn't like or even their favs was worse. The only good thing now is that it's mostly moved online as that largely removes the physicality of it, but that also in no way lessens it - in fact, it only makes it easier.
so excited for bm to be back for this ep! missed him
I'm a simple person. I hear "Stray Kids", I leave a comment
Still waiting for Bangchan and Felix to appear on get real 🙏
I love how ashley keeps on changing her clothes even when they film these on the same day 😭( I know she just added a jacket this time but she usually changes her clothes and well adding a jacket is still something ) I appreciate her efforts
peniel also did a change and took off his hat 😭❤
So proud to be a Melody 💙 most precious fanmily that hits closest to my heart and to BTOB as my home 🏠💙💙 Good to see you three together again! Stay healthy with all these schedules coming up! Always supporting you guyssss 😉
I appreciate Ashley so much at 44:41 for saying this because it needed to be said. I feel so acknowledged to hear them say this isn't it and that's not what they want. The fact that this came from artists themselves, not wishing this kind of pressure upon their fans. I hope some of the extreme fans out there know this is not the kind of culture artists want you to enforce on fellow fans or potential fans. Don't be so superficial! Artists make art, and art is art before any awards. Just enjoy it for what it is.
Lmao when Peniel was talking about the crying
speaking of the Aussie boys, skz is having a comeback soon too! pls invite them to get real! in the past 2 years, chan has been going on live every weekend and talks to stays about the realest and most random shit about life so i believe he’s the best guy to guest on the show. looking forward to this!! 🥺🙏
nothing makes my day as Get Real episodes, especially with my most loved trio❤ thank you Dive Studios, Ashley, Matthew and Peniel!!!💚💚💚💚
Always love "BFF vibe" they have. Having lots of special guest is great, but chilling with your bff will always be my fav.
Peniel line "say hello to my little friend" really cracks me up and the highlight if this episode is BM's wink+lip biting face 🤣
I may be an EXO-L, but my Melody heart will always stay around. BtoB brought me to kpop. I will forever be grateful for that. I will always support every member and the whole group. Thank you also for bringing amazing music to this world.
BM back again! Always so so happy to see him on Get Real again! I can't wait for the new KARD comeback 💙
So many great guests on Dive studios. This podcast is what keeps me motivated at work.
Let's go, Get Real Fam!
this came at a perfect time for me, I have always been all about the music first and have pulled back from a lot of fandoms because they make everyone miserable. I hope more people get to find their healthy balance. I agree 100% agree that "toxic fans" scare away people who could really get into the music and artists. Happy and healthy truly is all that matters in life!!
Yeah exactly. I accidently stumbled on twt and there I saw where fans were like if you want our artist at top or want this award then stream like a crazy fan and buy album in bulk and vote from diff accounts...
And I was like.... What ?????
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And also I saw some toxic fans comments and I Explored more ( you know curiosity 😂). I was shocked and couldn't believe that those comments were real and I immediately closed twt for my mental peace 😂😂😂
I was just happy when they discussed about this topic which is considered very sensitive topic for idols to discuss..
@@paridhikag5440 I agree! its almost surreal to hear them address it so directly and candidly but its such a welcome change and people REALLY need to hear it. Toxic "fans" are incredibly selfish and dont think about how their behavior impacts everyone else. Whether they are hurting real fans, scaring away potential fans, amplifying other toxic fans because they feel validated or hurting the artists who seem to only want to spread love and their music. I dont think a single artist would ever condone their behaviors 🥲 hopefully someday they will become even less common.
@@anyoneelsekitten Yeah. I agree with you. I too hope someday non kpop fans won't see kpop as a toxic place.
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I am a kpop fan for more than 7 years now. I am a fan of 2 kpop groups and for others I am a casual listener means I just listen music and that's it. For those 2 groups I just listen music or watch content if I like and leave a positive comment. And I never compare 2 diff artist and also members from same group. The thing is when you can be a good person and spread positivity then why to chose a negative path. That's it.
@paridhi_2517 100% agree again. I've been a fan since 2019 but have loved music my entire life and when ever possible in any music space I do my best to take care of it and always leave it better than how I found it. There is never a reason to spread hate, cut others down, be rude or inconsiderate. At the end of the day you never really regret being a positive person and that's just how I choose to live as well🥰
@@anyoneelsekitten Yeah. You are right we can never regret for being a positive person.. See there are sometimes when we didn't get connect or like some music or content or it can be anything. So then the best we can do is don't listen and watch that content or music. But nowadays some people chose to take some time and write hateful comments and compare with other artist and then they name it as " opinion ". Hateful comment can never be an opinion.
Personally when I didn't like something or it is not of my taste I just don't watch or listen to it. That's it. Why I will waste time to write harsh comments and then replying them..
When we write something good then others do reply with good words. So we like that kind of conversation.
Just like ours we liked each others choice of words and thoughts.
37:45
'are you saying we are the pokemon?'
'if we are, ima blastoise'
i think i just fell in love
Hidden Kard here!! 💖
Waiting for the comeback! 2023.04.10 👏
The first thing I come up with POB is the "Piece of BTOB" project in 2017 LOL
Just me being Melody😌💙
damn i haven’t been in the fandom culture in a long time and idek they created their own slang. that so crazy.
If there's a Welcome to Waikiki 3 or So Not Worth It 2...They should cast the whole Dive Studio Crew.
This is a holy trio and I’m really proud to be their fan!
Please have Bang Chan and Felix on the show 🙏 😭 😔 😊
that would be hard cuz skz schedule is hella insane but let''s just hope for one day 🙏
They were on the Daebak show.
@@jasminebranch3007 and?
we want them on both
They're on tour, so it won't happen no time soon...
I love this trio so much, makes me feel like i'm hanging out with friends 💕
I’m glad you guys are having an open and honest conversation about fan culture, highlighting the good and bad. We definitely need more of this, maybe even dedicated episodes to different aspects of fan culture if possible. And since this industry thrives on parasocial relationships, I would really love to hear your stances on this part of the k-pop industry and fans. Going in detail on the way idols interact with fans, the fan service, the things fans expect from idols (standards of being an idol) and the different ways fan view/interpret their relationship with idols. Also the stalker ‘fans’/sasaengs and how that affects the k-pop experience for both idols and other fans.
Great video as always❤
As an Aussie, I feel accurately represented 😂
i agree about the cancel culture thingy too bcs some people doing that on social media are really just doing that as some kind of performative activism i feel like? its like not even a constructive criticism and its always out of hate instead of care about the actual issue too so its just honestly frustrating to see. like there are actual serious and worse things going on in the world and like ashley said, they're all humans soo yup.
I love junny and ph1 but there’s something about you three (the original hosts) that hits differently. It’s so nice to see you all together again! I hope BM comes on more often 😊
I really liked the whole interview. I love kard too much, I have been hidden kard for 5 years and they are so important to me. It is true that they made me happy millions of times. I met them at a difficult time and they made me smile, that's why I love them with all my heart and am so grateful.
I'm glad to know that matt receives all that love from hidden kard, we appreciate their music and we want the best for them
I'm glad Ashley mentioned the people who pretend to be their fans to gain some clout over the accident bcus not gonna lie, the amount of people I fought for this exact reason. Ladies code is more than that, their music before and after is so good and deserves much more appreciation
Going from CC to CCC: Cancel Culture --> Constructive Criticism Culture with the Dive crew... always keeping it real.
This is the most important episode of GR. Cuz we all, as fans, know how these things happen in a daily basis, and it's not pretty! Having idols talking about these issues is so important, maybe some fans can really get real and stop some of those bul**t. Hopefully they will.
The OGs are back Penelope, Big Matilda and Ashley let's goooo !!!
I did not know I missed this trio so much
hope BM stay as co- host and not just a guest co-host .. original hosts still the best 💙
My discovery road:
-Became a Melody about 2 years ago, got curious about Peniel's character and Discovered that he was part of a podcast...the Get Real Podcast!
-Peniel then has been my Ult Bias (see what I did there? lol)
-Fell in love with BM's energy, love for life and positivity, then ultimately became a HK! And thanks to that I attended my first ever K-pop Concert when KARD came to the states!!
-Ashley is like the bff I would love to have in my life! She is so real, relatable and has this energy that has no time for BS (neither do I). I had no idea she is a former Idol or that her group has two forever group members ('til like a week ago).
-So it has been about two years and I am total DIVEr!
-Thanks to DIVE STUDIOS I am able to be further exposed to amazing human beings like Eric Nam, Epik High, Alexa, Junny, Harry + more!!
- This is a short summary of my journey as a DIVEr, HK and Melody (I am also a Shawol but that is for another day lol), but in another words I just want to express my gratitude, because y'll have unknowingly been there for me--and many others I am sure - So thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing all that you do.
And I do agree 100% with Peniel 56:33 that I too, do my best to reflect my "idols", as you are my inspiration to take care of myself Mentally andPhysically, and to always give it my all and my best in what ever I am doing.
- K Im done -
---- Sorry not Sorry but the long azz post, but I just somehow felt compelled to write this essay lol!! --
And who dares to said that Peniel is not funny. I keep laughing at all his jokes
The old teen magazines used to have photocards for "idols" in the 50-early 00s, but death of print media + importing Asian fan culture kind of killed it. Now its kind of back. FYI I feel old knowing about Tiffany and New Kids on the Block fan groups that only existed through mail. Kind of romantic now, like seeing post cards.
I’m so busy I can’t watch this until I get some free time but i wanna say I’ve been waiting for BM to back im sure this ep will be interesting can’t wait to watch it
i'm glad they have a place to address toxic fan culture. only the most brave veteran artists even mention it on any kind of broadcast, and those that do are either called heroes or get backlash.
BM's voice when he speaks English is just so handsome 😭
They really give siblings energy ❤ peniel and bm took care of Ashley when she was talking about her fans, they were quick at expressing the concern and peniel already ask for tissue ❤
As a melody for along time i feel like I'm at home already. Btob and melody are like a home for myself. And sometimes i wanna stan an awesome group but the fans scared me to death 😌 the idols are good quality but bcz of the fans i think they (not fans) less respect to the idols. Cz u know fans represent the idols.
I loved this episode ❤ especially talking about how serious and toxic fandoms can get. I’ve definitely been a fan of many various artists and have been intimidated by some fandoms because of the standards that are built up. Just like how y’all mentioned some people purchasing so many album copies, streaming, and researching everything about their idols can seem a bit over the top. I definitely am trying to not get influenced by that and just enjoy the artists’ music and what they do rather than going overboard. A melody here ✨💘🤟🏼 (I’ll look forward to a BTOB comeback!! It’s been awhile!)
i love them together ❤
36:19 it's actually quite cool to be the only blue in a sea of pink lights
I’d low-key be down to be on the show 😂
GET REAL honestly.... this is my favorite episodes of get real. you touched on so many actual issues. thank you for all you guys do!
Wishing nothing but the worst internet connection to toxic fans
I love this podcast, I came here first bcs of Peniel, bcs I love his group, but ended up being a big fan of all the hosts and happy to get to know the guests here.
I wish I can meet you guys in real life someday, but I can't promise I won't be nervous.
im honestly really glad you guys discussed the extreme toxicity of these fandoms (while also acknowledging that its not everyone) but it really is crazy and kinda gets to dangerous points for the singers as well. also all these few loud toxic fans or antis are just horrible and clearly need help lol like who takes their time out to create multiple accounts and harassing ppl constantly daily?? thats just literally… seek help man😭
but yeah overall im happy y’all were full honest about ur thoughts on it especially that its coming from singers, we can hear your end of your feelings about these crazy situations and hopefully those ppl will learn that y’all see the garbage they throw and that its actually affecting ppl cause yeah you’re entertainers but that title shouldn’t mean that you’re stripped from being human cause y’all are still human at the end of the day.
This was a GREAT great episode. All episodes of Get Real are great but I loved the conversation about toxic kpop fandom behavior (40:42) and especially Ashley saying that doing things like mass streaming to the point where it interferes with your daily life isn't what they as idols/artists want from their fans- being a fan should be enjoyable for everyone. Artists/groups really don't address the issue enough, which is too bad but it's nice to hear those toxic fans being called out for what they are 👏 HEALTHY FAN CULTURE, everyone.
love seeing you three together !! and i hope to see BM in movies and series sooon 🎉
Ashley speaking up about those so called lavely only if it is about the "accident" is something that really need to be said!
59:58 Peniel start giving a side look checking the sheet "when is this getting released?" for the BtoB comeback announced😂😂😂
All the real Melodies, Lavlies, and Hidden Kards pull up!!! 💙 💜 ❤
Let’s go!! King BM is back again again! Oooh it’s about to Get Real
I'm always watching snippets from the pod on my instagram fyp (and already follow dive over there) but never had the chance to watch/listen the full content and wow... I'm sad it took me so long. You guys are so chill and funny. I'm really happy to give it a try!!! ❤
I have been so busy lately...this is my first ep of season 3 that i watched. I really love Get real and this is fave trio ❣ I'm always thankful to this podcast as it keeps me going 😭.I'll try to be more active.
Always proud to be a melody 💙
Hidden kard and lavely are fandoms that we can trust and be friends with.
Get real listeners let's make our hosts proud of us too like their group fandoms! 💪
I love this while conversation! I love that they keep it real with their fans and express their love and can openly talk about things like these❤😌🙏
Hahaha bm saw the bang chan naurrr vs no vlive video clip
Get Real Fandom = The Realists 😂
This trio is growing on me, and Im loving it! I love the Dive Studios family!
Very interesting show! Many interesting topics discussed in this episode! 👍 looking forward to the next ones!
So glad to have my fav hosts back together