Kia Carnival vs Toyota Innova Crysta - Premium MPVs but oh so different | Comparison | Autocar India
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Kia Carnival and Toyota Innova Crysta might make up the premium MPV segment but these models are not like-for-like alternatives of one another. Large difference in price aside, the MPVs also differ in size, power and even how they're put together. Gavin d'Souza and Nikhil Bhatia contrast the two models to help you pick the right one for your needs.
0:00 - Introduction
0:25 - Prices and are they rivals?
1:29 - Innova: The driver's opinion
4:23 - Innova: The passenger's opinion
5:59 - Dimensions
6:25 - Carnival: The driver's opinion
7:33 - Features
7:58 - Carnival: More from the driver
10:15 - Carnival: The passenger's opinion
12:29 - Innova Crysta third row
13:36 - Carnival third row
14:53 - Luggage space
16:20 - Verdict
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There are innovas running in India with more than 5L kms and are running fine. Hope Carnival does the same.
I own a Carnival Limo. It’s the first time I went for a MPV after driving SUV’s and only Toyotas (Lexus / Landcruiser) for 15 years. Pleased to share that I am very happy with everything with the Carnival. It handles the rough roads very well the suspension works like a dream. Went over some realy nasty roads enroute to Manali and the car never scraped, touched any rocks underneath it was rather impressive as I was not expecting this level of performance on realy rough rocky roads. The amount of space inside is insane. Even the last row you are chilling comfortably. The engine is putting out the same torque as a Fortuner and puts out 440nm torque and 200BHP. Buy it guys you will be very happy.
I Am an Innova Owner 2012
And now recently bought the kia Carnival limousine variant
A few things i liked to say
Just because innova has a good reliability doesn't mean the Carnival Cannot we should give this car time and then comment in its reliability.
In terms of the feature there is just no match kia is the winner.
When you look at both of the cars from outside carnival looks good from front and side but its rear design isn't appealing that said
When you enter the car the outer views won't matter to you as the car looks beautifully built from the inside and for long journey's its just appropriate.
I know kia isn't established in India but then carnival is 22 years old car in the world and it's been quite successful.
P.s
For anyone confused between buying Fortuner or endeavour or carnival
My whole point of buying kia was that its has a business class image also
Fortuner and Endeavour are owned buy either politicians or contractors
So It was a very easy choice for me choosing the carnival.
Gloster is made in china.
If you drive at indian highways, you will always see innova guys overtake you. Innova wale hamesha hi jaldi me rehte hai 😅
I see a lot of innova fanbois trying to justify the price of overpriced innova in the name of "Reliability" in the comments section 🙄😆
Because that’s the only point they have to defend xd 😂
Although Innova Crysta is overpriced in my opinion, it will be my choice over carnival any day. Low maintenance, less electrical and better resale value. It's a win win
till date carnival was the most expensive car i been inside. 🙂. i was test driving the seltos and saw it parked inside the showroom. me and my cousin were opening and closing it door multiple times. 😂. car is just huge.
Still the price of Innova does not justify at all.
It is justified as long as Toyota continuously sells loads of them in India.
You can't just compare features and tell if innova is worth...there is something called reliability.... high reliability comes at a cost..
It is reliable
Neither does Levi's apparel, but people buy them
Innova can be self driven car but carnival is very difficult to drive with such large dimensions and wheelbase and with low clearance it makes tackling speedbreakers a task
Yes comfort of passengers is of utmost priority but Endurance too is most important.. For me a vehicle is not just for 3-5 years.. It's for a Decades use..
Kia is pretty ok in terms of reliability based on data from international markets. Not like Toyota, but for sure as good as hyundai
Very true
You speak as if Hyundai doesn't last long. You can still see a lot of Old Hyundai cars around, more than when compared to something like Ford or Chevy or Italian cars. They might not be as reliable as Japanese but from the last 12yrs or so you can see a significant difference.
Kia is not Toyota but it would last much longer than a Maruti.
Decade use? You know how much your service cost will be after 5 years of ownership?
Carnival is a Family MPV it is built for that.......
While Innova is made for daily use transport with Privacy Nd reliability in mind And Innova is the best in class.
Also most high profile ppl use Innova Crysta
What's with privacy?
Besides kia is also very very good with reliability
Great to see both of you in one frame after long time, but this time with something great- two MPVs...
At 33L I personally prefer to buy Ford endeavor
It's a different product altogether. The endeavour can fit only 6 people at max but the carnival can seat between 7-9 people with ease at a given point of time. Carnival has a way bigger boot size and honestly, it is hard to believe but the endeavour has a lighter engine than the carnival. People will choose the carnival instead of the endeavour I feel. Hope this solves your doubt.
Endeavour is ❤️
Endy would cost around 40 on road
Yes but that’s not an MPV lol.
And will go for toyota fortuner at laast😂
Kia should introduce its 2021 model of the Carnival that would be befitting of the market benchmark.
carnival's middle row is really makes the huge difference between them
Toyota innova for Touring .,
Kia Carnival for Cruising.,
innova for taxi carnival for others
In cars those two things are same unlike motorcycles
2:25 absolutely none of those things can justify the vast increase in ex-showroom of the Innova over the past decade.
The only reason Toyota has been able to get away with this nonsensical pricing is simply because of no competition.
Still the Toyota innova is leading. Plus it has always has competition from the Maruti Suzuki Ertiga and Honda Mobilio.
There are plenty of 20 year old KIA carnivals still going around in overseas.
So the car is rock solid.
Kia:I have more features
Innova Crysta:Hold my Reliability!!
whats the point the carnival is good enough in reliable. so why buy a worse car cause it will work for 2 more years
@@Abhiram-nb8yk Kia carnival is reliable and practical, though not as good as Toyota's car, but it is much more expensive(Can be even double the price)than the Toyota Innova, since it has many more features, space, and a better engine. It can last for decades, or may be at least for 10 or dozen of years.
My opinion is Toyota Innova because it's very practical and family like it more 😎
I say the Carnival look way too "CLASS" and should be chauffeur-driven for a good appeal
People always forget about reliability.....Kia’s service and delivery operations are very poor.....and the gearbox will heat up for sure.....in the long run the Innova gets the job done and also you can spend that extra 10 lakhs on equipments or a 2nd hand luxury car....Toyota got your back on the long run but if you don’t travel that much, well you can try the Kia.....but mind you Kia ain’t a daily....it’s a lot of struggle.....Innova stays better with the sales and service....and the resales are better. Choose wisely (it depends on your usage)
I need me more Mr. Bhatia please Autocar-In! Man is a class apart, my favourite host of this channel ♥️
I would like the kia carnival for sure, though its expensive.
Nice format of reviewing.👍👍
My thought was exactly the same what gavin said in the intro...👍
How do you guys always find such incredible backdrops!
Western Ghats
Toyota for reliability. Carnival for everything else!
yes the toyota is slightly more reliable. but i think that the carnival is good enough considering u wont use the car for 10 years
Hyundai owns kia which means kia is very much reliable
The Toyota Inova Crysta was from Karnataka.Yay!!!! I am from Karnataka.
Window dressing for price increase is common among car makers, but with subtle downgrades to power train. Toyota Innova is a Taxi operators car than a personal car.
Most awaited vid. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Omg difference is visible! Carnival's ride quality is leaps ahead of innova's. Just see how much that guy did move in middle seat on innova and carnival.
Without a sliding door, its not a MPV for me .... But India has to mature a LOT , here sliding door cars are called a Van! And is straight away compared to Omni and Versa 🙄
kia looks really good whereas innova has a classy look
I like the Carnival but the price drags me to Crysta.....
But still carnival is worth it's price
The carnival is not a city car, also if you have a large family, innova 3rd row is unusable.
You think Innova is vfm
But the problem is if you live in a city like mumbai, then you will have to hire a driver for parking
Only if you buy Kia Carnival, crysta you will manage 👍
@@sheikshakeerali5939 no
I would love to own a Kia Carnival; it will be a fantastic gift for my parents. But my budget is still few lacs short of both limousine variants which I really like.
Beautiful review guys. Keep it up
Please add the location where you shoot these videos. The locations are awesome and the camera work is top notch.
Hello, i am a regular viewer of your channel and i have one request . If it is possible to make a comparison video between tigor , amaze and dzire again in 2021 so it will be great for so many people.
Fantastic. Episode ! The 'Comfort' Aspect of two Cars is really well Explored 👍
But the Kia Carnival is not doing good numbers because at this price people prefer SUVs over MPV
Fact is you can buy 2 base version of innova for 1 top version of carnival
Innova is much better because of the built quality and price and comfort but both are best
Toyota anyday anytime !!!
Innova build quality,engine reliability,spare parts availability 👍
I strongly Condemn carnival as kia is selling old version in India which has been discontinued in international market for reference check kia carnival Sedona
When Launch Facelift Carnival in India & What is The Changes Interior Exterior Features
I really enjoyed watching this. Hats off to both Gavin and Nikhil
Both are great products in their respects.
innova 2.8 was a legend .
The innova would be soo cool if it had 4wd .like its based on the same platform as the hilux
Waiting for the comparison between BS6 Fortuner and endeavour. 😊
The carnival costs extra plus the huge depreciation that will eventually happen when the owner decides to sell the car will push most towards the Innova. If Kia can offer buybacks or similar schemes then people might be more inclined to buy.
Nicely put up comparison
Carnival in my parking lot, any day! I simply love the Carnival. By the way, this was a great commentary from the two presenters! Covered all the issues I was keen to get looked into.
Crysta🔥nothing else..feel it
Kia Carnival anyday for chauffeur driven.Justifies the extra Price Tag easily
The middle seat of innova is the best place ever :D
Ever sat in a gloster????
The right choice of words, it is definitely not a comparison but understanding does paying more give you more.
Great work Autocar! It's time for 4K videos now.
carnival is pure luxury
kia carnival 😍😍👌👌👌👍👍
Can you do the comparison with v class vellfire and carnival
I feel it's the price difference of the two cars and Indian roads which will pull customers towards Innova more
Thnx for comparison
Just to say the carnival goes up against the Toyota Sienna which is a car a segment above the Innova and large as the Carnival
Both cars are best in their own segment !
Carnival is really luxury mpv!😘😘😘
Are Wah ! Now thats a Toyota !
Loved Nikhil in his less conscious n stress free Avatar!
Kia and Toyota Innova is the beautiful cars the board the cars are very nice Autocar what day show is this very nice car
Though they fall in a broader umbrella of being MPVs, there are a lot of aspects which keep them in different segments.. comparing them is not really justified
@AutocarIndia : 33L Carnival vs 83L Velfire coming up ??
Even Toyotas nowadays are expensive to maintain and faulty once breached 125k. I happen to own one, a fortuner which has a odo reading of 180k+ and has been heavy on pocket ever since it crossed the 125k mark.
Road clearance is more in Innova Crysta compared to KIA carnival, I feel KIA carnival should increase the road clearance.
Waiting for the new Carnival 2020 to launch in India...its in a league of its own...
These two plus renuka and rishad are the best anchors at autocar
Good comparison video
Kia carnival and Toyota Innova are both lower middle class cars in most countries and unfortunately they are mid premium cars in India with ridiculous pricing. In India in some suburbs or towns You can literally buy 1bhk Apartment with these car prices or actually buy a ticket for whole family to world tour.
Only Toyota Innova car bcz it's very comfortable and budget able as compared to kia carnival
Innova has the more premium appeal than kia carnival.
I would love to have kia carnival in my parking just because of all the dynamic features and in fact because of the size also i would totally love to have this #massive_beast🤩
Its a nice format of reviewing truly appreciate this change. There is space for everyone and inclusive attitude is the way forward than calling it " rivals" "competition" etc.... world is simple keep it easy and welcoming all. (lol China- not included)
When the kia carnivel 2nd gen launching?
Similarly Innova and Marrazo have a big price difference between them..
And for the price of the Carnival
You can buy 3 to 4 Marrazo
I think Toyota should make a new generation Innova
Kia carnival in india is old generation while new gen vehicle is sold all over the world!!!
Definetely the Toyota innova because of the
ownership cost and also the reliability. Though the cost is more. It is the best.
Carnival is love .
Don't need a sunroof since it is already too hot here in India..don't need bigger size because of small roads in India...
No need of high end features
Looking too vany
Low on ground is not a good thing for Indian roads...
Allmost all the extra features you get in kia can be modified in the Toyota by aftermarket..
Toyotas reliability and low maintenance cost is unbeatable..
Innova with no doubt
What about Kia carnival v/s Force traveller 3150 WB...?
68% resale value after 5 years enough for me to go for Toyota lol
Don't worry. There are thousands and thousands of terms and condition.
By the time you would spend more than that on the repairs
Live the moment buddy
Right...I agree with you..people normally see the price of the vehicle...but you should actually see the depreciated price.....
Carnival is more practical car with big boot space and very large third row of seats for tall passenger
Bring a video on new Hyundai i20 vs Tata Altroz top model manual please. It will help to make my decision on which one to buy
I would say i20
I20
Go for Hyundai Venue, Hatchbacks are outdated
Test drive both bro.
I would suggest altroz for vfm.
All the best
Their is no doubt . Go for altroz . Tata's hatchbacks are reliable
Compare the base version of Carnival with top end innova
Carnival seems beast on the highway.. Such a big car
FAVOURITE ANCHORS💘💘💘💘
Proud owner of innova crystal gx 8 😀😀
Hats off to you guys for a truly no-nonsense and crisp review/comparo of the Innova and Carnival. Autocar reviews are always good quality.
But the Achilles heel of the Carnival is its dismal ground clearance of only 17cm (170mm) and the Front wheel drive.
Well, Kia cannot make the Carnival a rear-wheel-drive thats for sure, but, come-on Kia Motors! is it that hard to realize that 170 mm ground clearance for such a long wheelbase vehicle with a full load of passengers and luggage on Indian roads is going to scrape every speed breaker and at the front and rear on inclines. Higher ground clearance is definitely required to get the confidence to take the Carnival on long tours and bad roads (not off-road). Also restyle the bumpers to reduce the front and rear-overhangs to avoid scraping.
Kia Motors, please give the Carnival atleast 220mm ground clearance and only then it will be a practical touring vehicle on Indian roads. Even better if you can offer an All-Wheel-Drive variant, after all, a FWD for such a long vehicle is going to be difficult or less confidence inspiring on hilly areas.
The Innova with its rear-wheel drive and higher ground clearance and ladder on frame build is simply the better and practical touring vehicle out of the two.
I feel japanese cars are low on features compared to Chinese or korean cars. At this price point they should be offering a lot more. And the designs too are very old school!