Full Film: Grappling Is Better Than Wrestling
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- In 2019 FloSports pitted the best wrestlers against the best grapplers to put an end to the age-old debate. Who's better, wrestlers or grapplers?
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"grappling" is an umbrella term that BJJ falls under. Wrestling also falls under this term.
They are not the same but they are both grappling
So when will American BJJ get it’s own Custom name? No meed for the B in JJ and we aren’t using JJ hence Japanese JiuJitsu. 🤔
Wrestling tends to imply a specific point based ruleset focused on takedowns. BJJ is a broader range of submission focused rulesets.
@@The-Dom ... your comment only applies to sport.
Wrestling is point grappling and bjj is submission grappling. It’s like how karate has point fighting and has full contact. That’s the same with wrestling and jiu jitsu. Going against a bjj grappler in a street fight you’ll get your bones twisted, broken, and cracked.
@@Gurkha-z8s and the wrestler gets his knees popped
Modern jiu jitsu has evolved to kind of just be "submission grappling" a little bit of everything. As it should be
Agreed.
It’s all jiu jitsu.
@@sharkfinnigan in essence yes. Everything just comes from Japanese juijitsu including BJJ, catch wrestling and Sambo.
What about wrastling
@@shawndesjardins4909 there's no subs and realistically a fight doesn't end just because someone shoulders touched the ground. So they're lacking even though they are one of the more effective martial arts. I love wrestling, it's just not as good as the modern jiu jitsu imo
I like the mentality of "the more the merrier" in jiu-jitsu. The wrestlers coming over to help the sport evolve even more and get more and more exciting is what I'd love to watch.
@Rev ٖ Eh, you sound like an amateur talking nonsense 😆
@Rev ٖ very legit and well put comment, if a weaker smaller opponent can compete with a stronger,faster and more athletic opponent with the use of good fundamentals and techniques that automatically makes that martial art or technique better because even as you age you will still carry decent effectiveness, one example of that even using the sport of boxing Roy Jones was awesome when his body was young once he started loose the athletic advantage he started loosing and then there is chubby lazy in training but superbly skilled James Toney who held his own at an older age and with heavier weigh class competition because he had very sound and a boxing technique that did not relied much on athletic prowess
Its 'losing' not 'loosing'
We will evolve out of “Brazilian Jiu Jitsu” into the umbrella sport GRAPPLING.
A hybrid combat discipline which encompasses the best of every grappling art.
The same way leg-locks have evolved, so will takedowns. In 10-15 years GRAPPLING will surpass pure wrestling.
So catch wrestling then.
Let's do it pal
Really depends on the rulesets available to compete at
@@thecoops2329 Catch wrestling despite the constant bragging and claims of superiority is many levels below both grappling in the submission area, and folk or freestyle as far as wrestling. That’s why a local 10th Planet black belt can destroy a world champion catch wrestler in a catch match without any catch training.
If catch were the evolution of grappling that you claim it’s exponents would be winning Abu Dhabi regularly, yet in the real world that doesn’t happen.
No gi
I wrestled in school and now a brown belt in BJJ. I can say for sure. Wrestling is the toughest thing I’ve ever done. Workouts are no joke.
Can you give an example of what you would do for a wrestling workout? Just curious.
I have NEVER looked forward to a wrestling workout. It sucked. You're not chilling with your friends, you are pummeling each other and you both have to be mean about it.
I have looked forward to BJJ practice. It's therapeutic, relaxing, and you get a LIGHT workout in. The environment is so chill compared to wrestling.
Wrestling pushes you to your mental limits and demands you push further. It has to be that way because of the fast explosive pace of wrestling that doesn't exist in BJJ.
Wrestling is grappling
Yeah I'm confused. Why are they making a distinction here? Grappling is supposed to include all grappling, right? Wrestling, jiu jitsu, judo, sambo grappling, etc.
That's what a lot of BJJ people do. They make outlandish claims about their discipline.
@@IowaRonin idk why but there's this egotistical thing in the BJJ community and it keeps pulling me out from the art
No, wrestling is wrestling. All Grappling Arts combined in terms of Grappling Specific Formats merit a “Grappler.”
Look at someone such as Kyle Dake or Jordan Burroughs vs Khabib Nurmagomedov and tell me which is the “Grappler” of the Bunch and which is the specific Wrestler.
Just stating my argument to the contrary though.
@@Ricatonniisasavage8854
This is semantics. Wrestling is grappling. Grappling is wrestling. Synonyms. To grapple is to wrestle!
This video should use the language "freestyle wrestling" vs. "submission wrestling".
Grappling is a general term that encompasses many styles. “It” can’t be better than wrestling. It is wrestling.
Flo been having some divisive short films lately lmao. “American jiu jitsu” come on mannnn
I think it’s more accurate to say wrestling is grappling rather than grappling is wrestling because grappling isn’t necessarily grappling but wrestling is always grappling
Technically you are right. They could of just said Grappling match: Jits vs Wres
Yall just arguing semantics
@@stupidandboot4507 forreal
Wrestling is pushing, bjj is pulling, you need both, but the tribalism makes it rare for one person to master both
@Sentagin Home Wrestling can help your bjj, not really vice versa.
@Sentagin Home Agreed. BJJ doesn't help with the sport of wrestling obviously, but in a real fight, both are amazing to have. Especially for MMA which is why I've done both for nearly 10 years now.
Marcus C which kinda hints on which is more valuable...
@@13bfc I see what you are saying brother but having bjj helped khabib turn takedowns into easy submissions
Push pull legs split
These guys are obsessed with this question, because they refuse to train both. You can only be relegated to one style and are confined to it's rules says them. Like wtf a wrestler who comes into BJJ is only still a wrestler? This is why MMA is best, least amount of limitations
They need to stop asking this question, this kind of thinking is from the 90s
If you want to combine both styles, guard pulling should be -2 and the match starts standing. This way top position prioritized since the top person usually wins if striking was involved. However, there you can get caught from the top with submission
Guard pulling needs to die.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 depends, have you seen danahers feet to floor?
If you pull guard to a very advantageous position, practically where you are close to hitting the submission, it has a place.
When you are practically pulling them into a submission, or a leg entanglement.
You do not care about -2, or -100 if you submit the other guy.
@@markusleyer3299 If you can guard pull into a submission, that’s quite literally the only good use for it.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 well, not really, if you can guard pull into an advantageous position, for example if you can get straight to a clamp position, you basically also get the trap triangle.
Then you have to fully lock a triangle.
I mean, guard punning is great if you get into a position that is better than 50/50.
I mean, or side control with butterfly hook in and shoulder crunch for example, gives you an instant sweep after.
In my opinion guard pulling is great for when you can pull into attacks practically, or into an advantage for you.
@@markusleyer3299 The thing with guard pulling though, most of the setups I’ve seen, and that have been taught at my gym, are like 75% the same setup as a sacrifice throw. Getting the takedown is a more reliable way to win than pulling guard imo.
I always thought grappling was all of the above? Wrestling/judo/jiujitsu/ catch/ Mongolian wrestling?
It really depends on context. But sometimes people will refer to no gi bjj as grappling, as nogi and with gi bjj comps usually include forms of wrestling/judo as well, which would make it confusing if wrestling and judo etc were also referred to as the same thing. But regarding umbrella terms then yeah all of the mentioned are forms of grappling, but each of them have their respective specialties, so people usually just refer to their singular name.
What's the main difference between wrestling and grappling??? I'm noob don't be rude.
Wrestling is a subset of grappling, just like boxing is a subset of MMA. Grappling is kind of like the mix of all the grappling sports combined, typically in a no gi format.
The wrestling vs grappling debate is stupid, just like the MMA vs boxing debate is.
Grappling mean is no blows
@@casseusfloyd4880 I don't think you know what you're talking about.
Nicky Rod: trained 10 years of wrestling, 6 months of jiu-jitsu. Yet these guys are talking about him as if he's a pure jiu-jitsu grappler. LoL.
U are 100% correct kalle Pikku...these guys sounded abit foolish because nicky rod bread n butter IS WRESTLING..
John Dahner nicky rods bjj coach said he only wrestled for a year. So i don't know.
@@gustavoarteaga4027 he never did,he wrestled all through high school and college but less than elite level.
Khabib seeing this thumbnail, " im gonna smash you"
Flo, providing the best grappling content IN THE WORLD, FOR FREE, ON TH-cam. Thanks
I feel this is why many mma gyms are now doing grappling courses, to give a blend of both, ofcourse it's better to be focused on either one. As someone who mainly practises striking, I'm pleasantly surprised by how comprehensive grappling is. Amazing content!
Great feature, but I’m surprised that there wasn’t a third and final segment that involved the transition of either sport into the current MMA scene. It just seems that the drive, mindset and athletic prowess of top level wrestlers combined with fundamental BJJ/submission defense is a better base these days than let’s say a BJJ Blackbelt learn takedowns. There are always exceptions, but this seems to be the current trend.
correct
As someone that has competed in both I love the hybrid model they have started. I say keep it going.
Wrestling is better because after you’ve wrestled for a few years you can pick up jujitsu in a few months and destroy people
Did no one ever seriously consider a catch wrestling rule set for jiujiteiros vs wrestlers? You can win by either pin or submission and I believe there's a takedown and reversal based scoring system?
Hell yeah, catch as catch can but maybe, like judo, with a 10 sec pin count or something like that
Only if its a long pin, lasting at least three seconds and after a guard pass
@@MrAlepedroza Why guard pass? It's Catch wrestling, not jiu-jitsu.
Remember, people can punch your face is from the guard as well. As Khabib.
Curran Jacobs (former D1 wrestler & cacc champ) vs Quentin Pablo Rosenzweig (a more no name guy from 10th planet) happened somewhere around a year ago and Curran couldn’t pass his guard and proceeded to get submitted I think 3 times. this was after Curran told Gordon Ryan and Garry Tonon that he’d run over both of them in grappling matches and called himself the “best grappler in the world”.
@@logannnm Two guys no-one has every heard of. LoL. You might as well throw in there two random guys from Street Beefs. Probably more famous.
15:12
If you're going to slam like that
1 - do it rampage style: all the way up to 12, then slam to 6
2 - slam them on their skull, not upper back!
why devide a nishe sport?! both are viable
Without ground strikes, you won’t be able to know. Striking on the ground changes everything.
hold it…. grappling and jiujitsu are not synonymous ….. wrestling is grappling as well
Wrestling IS Grappling
Special rules don’t show who’s better or what style is better. The rules should simply be, takedowns legal, submissions legal, maybe a time limit but definitely no stalling or passivity. Wrestling and Jiu Jitsu are arts that fall under the umbrella of grappling. The reason Jiu Jitsu is better as a combat art is because the end goal is submission which ends the fight. In a life and death combative situation you definitely want more than a hold or a pin in your arsenal. Choking a person unconscious or breaking a limb is pretty effective
In the modern world that's true. But let's not forget that in traditional wrestling arts (BOTH Greco-Roman styles as well as jiu-jitsu/judo, actually) immobilization was a win because it signified that in a real fight the immobilized person was going to get stabbed to death. That was actually the *main* way to kill a fully armored knight in medieval fights.
Throws and slams. Are more lethal than any hold tho
Nicky Rod came in and made a big jiu jitsu splash, quickly, because he had a high competence in wrestling and had the wrestling speed and conditioning. If you add that dimension to all jj'ers then the whole sport advances.
They are both GREAT combative arts.
Very grateful for this content and the push to make grappling all encompassing
Wrestling is a form of grappling. Jiu Jitsu is now sort of a jack of all trades grappling Martial Art, however, what makes arts such as Sambo, Catch As Catch Can and Judo stand out are the rulings. Personally I think Sambo is the best grappling art, followed by Jiu Jitsu and then Catch As Catch Can, otherwise everything else from Wrestling to Judo to Bokh is just something to add to ur repitoire in the arts of Sambo, Catch and Jits, that's what makes grappling so interesting, but yes these grappling arts' rulings are where the differences and the players lie.
Directly comparing sambo to jiujitsu is asinine. That's like comparing MMA and kickboxing and saying MMA is better. Sambo is a mix of all grappling martial arts it doesn't have anything of its own. Jiujitsu and judo and wrestling all have techniques that have originated FROM those styles. Sambo just takes what works and puts it together. That's literally what MMA is. Combat sambo variant even adds strikes if I'm not mistaken and that quite literally is just MMA.
You don't seem to understand the word grappling. Wrestling is grappling. To grapple means to grab. All forms of wrestling, Judo, BJJ, Sambo, etc are grappling.
I LOVED EVERY BIT OFF THESE GRAPPLING COMPETIONS I HAVE LEARNED QUIET A BIT HERE IN GENRAL IN 15 MINS SO THANK YOU RESPECTED THANK YOU SO MUCH!. GOD BLESS EVERY ONE TAKE CARE.
Um Nick Rodriguez with Wrestling Background Blue belt in BJJ slaughtered Roberto “Cyborg” Abreu(Black Belt BJJ)
Slaughtered is a big stretch but he did win that being said Nicky is a freak
Slaughtered? Lol. Calm down. A slaughter would be more like how Pedro Marinho leg locked Pat Downey recently in a few minutes.
the rule set should be submission only. What is the point of being able to take the fight to the ground if you can't finish it there?
because in a real fight they can strike you from top position
@@Alex-xi3bw good guard game should account for strikes. Gordon's guard game would do well for example. He is always looking to control the inside space. Also, wrestlers practicing submissions is nothing new. That is literally where catch wrestling comes from... its not outrages to say submission only is the purest and most decisive form of grappling rule sets.
@@paulyj then why do wrestlers do better in the ufc?
@@paulyj I don't disagree with that, I'm just answering the question: "what's the point of taking it to the ground if you can't submit". They can still strike you even if they can't submit, meaning it is still worth it to take somebody down even if you can't submit them.
@@joegillespie8657 because they actually start to train bjj as well at that point. I'm willing to bet there isn't a single fighter on the ufc roster that doesn't train bjj.
It is much easier for a world class wrestler to learn submissions than for a BJJ guy to learn Take downs. And both have to learn to strike.
I would imagine the wrestlers take down on concrete would end the fight
The Superior is Sakuraba. Saku an amateur wrestler trained under legendary Wigan Catch Wrestler Billy Robinson in the almost lost art of Catch as Catch can. Saku aka Gracie hunter even took out heavy weight Bjj black belt Marcus "Conan" Solveira @ UFC in 1997. The style of Catch Wrestling that Saku displayed, had never been seen, in NHB competition.
Pro wrestling
, Rickson Gracie v Dan Gable,
Gordon Ryan v Billy Robinson ????
I guess Flo’s going to pretend that catch wrestling doesn’t exist.
How many gyms are out there that teach catch wrestling?
I think the answer is both. Wrestling is the best at controlling their opponent's body but since there are no submissions, they can't finish. So you take wrestling to control the opponent and BJJ to finish them and you have the perfect art.
That is catch
so basically, the submission grappler won the submission grappling contest and the wrestler won the wrestling contest. Who would have guessed, right.
Videos are better than TH-cam videos!
Wrestlers are grapplers but not all grapplers are wrestlers, wrestling is a style of grappling, because grappling is one of the two aspect of unarmed combat, the other is striking
Grappling encompasses everything
"Grappling is better than wrestling". Ok, now do it on concrete
If more and more high level wrestlers come over to jiu jitsu, it’d help the sport immensely and it would evolve and truly be more of an “American” jiu jitsu than the traditional “Brazilian” jiu jitsu we all fell in love with and I suspect more Brazilians would be pissed… Evolution always wins, you either evolve or get left behind
Hey flo people, what you guys are doing is amazing. Like honestly its making the sports better. Keep it up!
You can take an elite wrestler and make him an elite jujitsu guy you can’t take an elite jujitsu guy and make him an elite wrestler won’t happened
Dumb title which is better grappling or wrestling.wrestling is a blanket term there are many styles of wrestling.Greco-Roman collegiate folkstyle catch-as-catch-can sumo . Many styles of wrestling also has submissions in it depending on the style it's just that is not widely studied or practice as much as a modern-day Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
I wish they had done 3 matches, free style, Folk Style and submission grappling. Then you might have learned something.
Allow leg locks and guard pulls, but if wrestler ecapes guard and stands up, match resets standing. Wrestler has a chance of winning by takedown points or by pinning, jiujitsu player has a good chance of winning by submission. Both athletes are able to use their entire offensive arsenal. I don't see how it's that complicated to come up with a good ruleset.
How do you get a jiu jitsu player off your front porch? Pay for the pizza. ... am I slow, what does this even mean lol
And here I thought wrestling was a form of grappling. Someone didn’t do their homework 😅
To me, wrestling is just a form of grappling, just like jiu-jitsu is a form of grappling. If you think about it, it's like saying which is better, Ford or Chevy. There are definitely some people who will defend to the death one being better than the other, but ultimately if you think about it, they are both cars and will both get you from point A to point B.
Tesla is best. Tesla is bjj
@@Benji-jj2bgin the real world of fighting UFC, wrestling is actually the Tesla
im a purple belt and I agree wrestlers are tougher not even a question
After 30 years of
Wrestling
1. Sambo
2. Folk
3. Greco
4. Free
5. Catch
Judo
BJJ
Sub Grappling
I have the ideal Rule Set
1. All slams are counted. All take
Downs are counted.
Feet to back 4
Ippon 4
Wazi Ari 2
All others no score
If you pull gaurd your opponent can slam, no spiking on top of head.
If you jump gaurd… you can be slammed out of it or…. Your opponent can walk you out of bounds. You can try to grapple
Out of it but if are walked out without your feet touching the ground -1
If you fail to turn a jump
Gaurd into a positive position and you drop
Off.. -2
Pins are Judo style. If you can pin your opponent for 15 seconds with no escape or advance-2. 30 seconds win…
Mount and back tales are 2 points. Escapes are 2 points.
Subs
All except small
Joint manipulation.
First to 15….
More Wrestlers from the Greco world and Judo players will come to compete.
In war you don’t drop to your ass.. in the street I’d you butt scoot your ass will hurt…
Great video gentlemen! 👊👊👊👊
Since I started in wrestling in highschool, then started Jiu Jitsu in my 40's, I can say the hardest thing about transitioning was to learn to be ok going on my back. In the beginning I would leave my neck open for strangle holds cause was trained to stay on my stomach. Where in JJ, being pinned on your back is ok and a form of most guys games, being in guard I mean
No need for a middle ground. Just grapple.
Put a wrestler and a jiu jitsu player in a cage, all holds allowed, no striking, no out of bounds, submission only. That's how this should be done.
Yup
Put wrestler and bjj player and you see how fast you get slammed on the beton, and get stomp and soccerciks all over your face
@@РинаткКуркаев Sure buddy, you're real tough.
lol just full on giving the guy your back and him refusing to take it is a giant W. Such a great wrestler to scared to take him down.
When striking gets involved wrestling becomes more important but Jiujitsu is still just as important
Exactly when weapons become involved fundamentals of Greco-Roman Wrestling also known as Orthopale become paramount. Shivworks basis it's curriculum on it.
Flo forgot its roots.
Wrestling just needs submissions and they’re good to go and become the ultimate grappling form.
Without the submissions the level of offense stagnates at controlling the opponent.
Soooo…catch wrestling?
@@Enforcer2811 no gi jiu jitsu is basically catch wrestling these days. And that’s not a bad thing.
Grappling is literally wrestling+submissions man
@@eveningstar7812 Jiu jitsu is not catch wrestling, luta livre is nearest to that
@@carlosandres1835 Luta Livre doesn’t have unified rules as a sport. No gi BJJ has had a surgence of wrestlers entering the sport, giving more emphasis on take downs. So I would still say No Gi BJJ is closer.
Wrestling is grappling just like Jiu Jitsu is grappling just like Judo is grappling just like Sambo is grappling.
This is so well done
A mix is the best use the best parts of both
There is no perfect rule set, for a show down. You will always see the wrestler being better at take downs, and BJJ being able to grab a submission. It is their strengths. Anything that reduces or limits those strengths, will water down the bout making it boring.
>says world's best wrestlers
>brings Americans
Mark Kwrr was a wrestler and destroyed grapplers in ADCC
He outpointed them 😂 He didn't destroy shit.
just grappling match between gordon ryan vs khabib would be an interesting match
Different weight class. And Khabib is an MMA fighter. Not a butt-scooter.
@@kallepikku4991 hahaahaha thats true.he will murder gordon ryan in mma match
Could you not have some kinda of ruleset where you're not allowed to pull guard, and where you can win by Submission, Pin or explosive takedown eg Ippon style in judo?
That might work as a balance between the disciplines?
if you can win by takedown immediately (not just points) the wrestler is basically always going to have the huge advantage. A better compromise would be winning by pin or sub, judo-style. That being said in truth what you will probably find is that the best at this contest will unsurprisingly be whoever trained the closest to this ruleset for the longest time. So it's kind of a pointless endeavor. Wrestlers wrestle better, sub guys sub better. Obviously.
If you are a judoka...you are a grappler. If you are a wrestler... you are a grappler. If you are a jiu jitsu practitioner... you are a GRAPPLER. Grappling can't be better than wrestling because wrestling IS grappling. Jesus christ... fix the damn title and language, shit will get people confused.
It should be grappling with slams allowed and submissions. That would settle the debate.
Wrestlers are tougher no questions needed
It's the one thing that drives me crazy coming from a wrestling background, where we used to grind and sweat for a couple hours. To BJJ where everyone shows up, smokes a joint, talks, rolls for a little bit, etc... it feels like no ones really trying.
@@NotKimiRaikkonen The work ethic in wrestling is different for sure. Went to my second wrestling class today and I haven't sucked wind this hard in ages. Jiu jitsu is definitely a lot more relaxed, training-wise. You gotta train, but it's usually not as intense. That's why wrestlers tend to be athletically better and stronger.
@Joao Vaz have you ever wrestled?
Nicky Ryan vs Tony Ramos
tony ramos the friboi guy? 😅
Doing BJJ made me realize how badass wrestler are. Much respect
Dont you need both stand up wrestling and ground grappling to be.. I dont know a good grappler? Submission wrestling all the way, youll get best of both worlds.
I guess to each his own, but for me, the ultimate ruleset was NHB. In terms of competition, for me, the whole point to whatever style you practice -- wrestling, jiu-jitsu, karate, boxing, muay thai, etc. -- is to be maximally effective in a one-on-one, empty-hand, who's-the-man fight to the finish (incapacitation of opponent) with referee interference, no rounds, and no time limits. So, whatever style, set of techniques, approach -- whatever you want to call it -- that is the best in true NHB, is the best, period.
Wrestling is the most dominant martial art and it gets proven time and time again
BJJ is just a different kind of wrestling. All grappling uses wrestling in some way. Submissions are not new, not even using the jacket is new. Wrestling has and always will be integral to human fighting.
Loses 12-0. "He held his own"
Hmm… what Martial art would win in a fight… one that ends in an arm breaking/being killed or getting taken down and put on your back…
combat wrestling has an interesting ruleset
Look all I know is if there’s an mma fight between a collegiate wrestler who got 1 year of BJJ and a BJJ black belt who got 1 year of wrestling, I’m betting on the wrestler 100% of the time.
the probelm with the slam is if you wanne do it right you do not slam on the back but the head
and you can do some serious dmg that way
One is an Olympic sport with a clear cut career path.
Better? How? For fitness? Competing in the Olympics?
Wrestling + BJJ = American style Jiujitsu. Judo is so underrated….
They all grappling forms.
One can complete another.
Wrestling is grappling and grappling is wrestling.
BJJ needs a step-out rule. Not points per step-out but after so many...points or neg. points.
Why not mention Nicky vs Tony? Nicky smoked Tony, I respect how hard wrestlers are but tbh jj is just better
Or Pat Downey getting leglocked recently.
Wrestling is grappling. And encompassing different styles, with wrestling as your base is probably the best. But just wrestling on it's own of course falls short. What discipline doesn't? BJJ on it's own is insufficient as well in the UFC.
perfect ruleset might be a hardwood floor
Wrestling, BJJ , Grappling.. we love all combative sports
To behonest I would say wrestling is better. If u take both out of their element and see who is more successful, it would be wrestling. The prime example is MMA/ UFC, where most successful people are the ones with wrestling background. But a mix of both is necessary, I'm convinced that bjj guys needs to learn wrestling. Because look at the match of gordan ryan exposing his back just to get taken down, so that they could groundfight because his stand up game is basically bad. That's why I'm going to practice wrestling to improve my bjj game.
If you guys really want to compare wrestling and grappling, you should have matches that are contested under the old catch wrestling rules which are the same rules that are still seen in pro wrestling today. Namely, a 3-count pin (which works in the wrestlers favor) or submission (which works in the grapplers favor) to win.
I've always thought wrestling was grappling, same as bjj, judo, sambo, sumo...
@Ian Patton or you could call it correctly, submission wrestling/bjj instead of grappling 🤷
Great video
I wonder if we could have a Judo-like rule set, we're there are ippon victories
Smartest: US wrestling < Bjj < Russian Wrestling