[EU4] How to Crush the Protestant Reformation
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- In this video I detail how to destroy the Protestant Reformation, ensuring all of Europe remains loyal Catholics.
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"this is why i hate video games, it appeals to the male fantasy",
Video Games:
Well I don't know about you but this game certainly appeals to my fantasy of being a genocidal warlord :)
Well, all Catholic priests are male. Single males.
Ahh, yes, united Christianiy, so hot.
@@alexanderchristopher6237 a priest is supposed to dedicate his life to Christ alone and forsake all worldly pleasures.
500 years late
Patito Haha nice one
lol
Patito ã
Can still happen!
Cringe
*THE POPE* Liked this
Luther & Calvin didn't
sergeikrasnikov I know, and i'm delightful they are boling in rage.
Remove Talos The next one will be better.
yes
HRE is Alive! In games :)
"Your goal is to surgically strike to excise the tumor that is the center of reformation".
Damn... *DEUS VULT INTENSIFIES*
HRE: Protestant Chemotherapy edition
Symptoms of Heresy
I laughed harder than I should
Who would win?
1500 years of tradition
or
A single shitpost
*tips plenary indulgence
Shitposting is the most powerfull thing in the world. It elects presidents, kills people, destroys corporations and writes history.
A single shit post. The tradition was bad. So sad.
more like 95 shits 1 post
Doesnt matter how long it is. As long as it is one post only it counts as a single shitpost.
Im a die hard catholic in eu4, hell i even converted japan to catholic through events
I see
@Engelbert Dollfuß but it sounds like a fightingstyle
@Engelbert Dollfuß Jesus is Confirmed as the first JOJO so that make sense
AI did that. AI japan and AI Shun as well.
same
*That moment when you were going for a HRE unification playthough as Austria but the reformation fucked things up so you have just been eating up all the members for the past few hours and when you decide its time for a break and go to watch some youtube you see this*
could have just flipped Protestant
Instructions unclear, now the whole europe is Orthodox.
**laughs in Old Church Slavic**
@Azoth Ace Instructions unclear Europe is now entirely zoroastrian
Instructions unclear, now all the seven Christian faith in the Christian groups are harmonized by Confucianism.
**chuckles in irreligious Seres/Sinae**
Instructions are unclear, now the whole Europe is Sunni Muslim.
Instructions unclear, now the whole world is Roman Catholic
*prays in Ecclesiastical Latin*
Instruction unclear now the whole world is fetishist
*The Ottomans have joined the catholic league*
This happens SO often
Protestants get out!
[ _REEEEEEEEEEs in Austrian..._ ]
There is no Austrian language. In Austria they speak german.
The more to south you are the more softer german you will hear, but i agree it is a dialect.
NeinNeinNeinNeinNein
Austria is german
Firefox is red, Explorer is blue. Google+ sucks and Chrome does too. German*
Even Martin Luther regretted the reformation leading to Protestantism later in his life, he just wanted to reform the Catholic church.
do u have proof
7:06 “symptoms of heresy”
You sir are truly skilled at the art of comedy
And, how would one go about doing this IRL?
Wasn’t Codreanu Orthodox?
The505Guys and the catholic church was founded by our Lord Jesus Christ, instead of Henry VIII
Z0mbicore No, it was founded by the Patriarch of Rome in 1035 AD due to the Great Schism. The Orthodox Church has a much more legitimate claim to the Apostolic Succession than the Roman Catholic one. St. Peter was never the Pope.
just say the word, căpitanul
lutin grognon The thing is though that Catholicism as we know it is a complete fabrication. They committed the sin of adding to Christianity (that is VERY BAD, considering what it says in Revelations on that matter).
While I would agree that there is a lot of strange fundamentalism in Protestantism, and the terrible habit of just creating new "brands" of Christianity whenever a small dispute arises, I myself am in fact an Irish Presbyterian. We largely have stood up to the homosexuals and feminists, denouncing them as heathens who love only themselves, and refusing to bow to our dodgy government's "Equalities Commission".
But ultimately, I agree. I was just saying that the RC Church was not founded by either Christ or Saint Peter. I believe that all of our churches should work towards reunification of Christ's body, something only achievable through Christ and the Holy Spirit.
Interestingly enough, I have heard a convincing argument for Tradition (different from custom). It basically goes along the lines of "St. Paul writes in one of his epistles to [someone, can't remember which one] 'as Christ always said, "it is better to give than to receive"', but that isn't recorded in any of the Gospels. It must have been passed down orally, i.e. Tradition."
Honestly, the church needed a reformation since it had been so corrupted with wealth and power, however as I recall neither Luther not Calvin intended to create different denominations, but rather to restore the Catholic church to its proper state. Either way, we're here now and its our mess. We have to deal with it (with God's help).
7:06 "Symptoms of Heresy"
lmao amazing
As a side-note, this Halloween was the 500th anniversary of the beginning of the Reformation.
Only four days late!
"There's no such thing as a perfect Europ-"
In my last play through as England the reformation never really took off. Only one or two German states converted and they got squashed soon after by their Catholic neighbours
All this heretic killing, it makes me wanna play Warhammer 40K...
*FOR THE EMPERAH!*
Shame you didn't upload it on 31st of October, when the Reformation started historically. Good vid tho :D
No wonder it was such a nightmare
Michal Číhala and its Halloween
"Syptoms of heresy"
This word always made me laugh
Thank you for making more content recently. We really enjoy it, and it's very informative and has drastically improved my game play.
*SYMPTOMS OF HERESY*
Refusing to acknowledge the God-Emperor.
Worship of Chaos.
*✚THE EMPEROR PROTECTS✚*
I love your videos. They are so professionally done. You should do a video about limiting Ming's Mandate with a focus on doing it as Manchu to form Qing. For me it's been very difficult to destroy Ming's powerbase even as a great European power, and I would love to see your approach to this mechanic.
Max Breiling A good strat is to become a tributary and conquer all the other tribes that border him to the north. You then wait until he enacts one of the weird imperial reform things so that he has low mandate, and then you cancel your tributary status. He will get a modifier for an unprotected northern border that will cause his mandate change to be negative, so he will be stuck at zero. Then his troops and his entire country are terrible, so you attack.
Thanks I'll make sure to do that next time I play in the region
Max Breiling Yeah. I'm currently doing this in my Uzbek game, in which I have eaten Nogai, Kazan (although the province Kazan was lost to the Muscovites before I could take it), half of Timmy (Persia escaped, so I immediately got down to killing him. It's really annoying though because he has more than 30k pretender rebels, even in his weakened state), most of Chagatai and a small portion of Oirat. Ming just randomly asked me to become his tributary so I said "Sure, why not?" to myself. I am finally able to expand further eastward, as I was previously blocked by Ming tributarising Oirat while I was in the first Oirat war. I plan to push hard eastward to try to get feudalism (it is only 1520 or something like that, so I still don't have it, although it recently entered my country from Persia).
Hordes are really fun if you know how to use them. The 100% cav that comes with Tengri hordes and that can be accessible to Sunni hordes with the cavalry armies age bonus is so good. Gone are the days of worrying about insufficient support (or building more than one type of unit, for that matter) ;).
Regardless of the nation you're playing as, causing devastation (and removing prosperity) is the easiest way to reduce mandate growth. If just passed a reform and is at 30 mandate and climbing, Scorching Earth in as many states as possible will undo any prosperity and add huge amounts of devastation that will last years. Looting and occupying a province also adds deviation. Any state with deviation will lose prosperity too. Focus on high-development provinces, especially those outside of fort zone of control (though, if you occupy the fort, it's fine).
The next easiest way to reduce mandate growth is to occupy (or conquer) Beijing, Nanjing, and Canton. Forcing them to take loans is also a major blow, so when you peace out, taking tons of money will ruin them more. And finally, declaring on a tributary that they won't defend will give a one-time -10 mandate.
Good Lord. 0:00 That is one of the most successful Reformations I have seen.
SirGrips once I watched nearly all of Europe reform with only Castille, Portugal, and the Baltic’s as the remaining catholic nations
It started in cyprus for me once they had not even expanded
ludde1337 Lmfao
what is this, two videos only a week apart :O
dream come true
you put so much effort in your videos and they are so informative its amazing :D
Alt title: How to stop Prussia from forming
Still the best guide on how to crush the reformation. Simple, no Alt-F4 cheese like Red Hawk, no histrionics like Ludi, no self-aggrandizement like Budgetmonk. Just how to get 'er done.
**Symptons of Heresy** Hajahahahahahahhahahaa
Thanks for making these so much Reman! I think most players have ideas about clearing the reformation, but you provided a simple, straightforward step-by-step path to doing so. Your video quality has increased as well, but I would say every one of your videos has been quality!
If only this would have happened in real life
Then the christian civilization would not be in such terrible decadence.
@@requetedesantafe frig off with your desert monotheistic religions. Embrace the glorious mountain pantheons. Who needs Jesus when you have Zeus? Who needs Muhammad when you have Heracles? Who needs Moses when you have Ares?
@@requetedesantafe Its the opposite
@@requetedesantafe Cope and seethe battle of breitenfeld moment
If this would have happened in real life, most of Europe would be very close to Saudi Arabia or Iran.
"may the madonna forgive them"
and
"she is a special woman but still just a woman"
are both correct answers. Catholics do not worship Mary, which is clearly laid out by the text right above the window.
she PRAYS on behalf of us like any saint, only her prayer is the strongest, because she had/has the strongest love of Christ. It's not so difficult to understand, but I see so many games and other formats of entertainment mis-portraying this constantly
This strat still works in 2021! thank you man thanks to you the protestants never really paused a big threat and had to no cb only once!
The title made me think you were talking IRL. Real spooks for halloween.
Damn reformations. Divided our beautiful religion
Pope worshiper
Thanks God I am loyal to the Pope.
Gabriel Honorato Yup. Good for us. I don't like the current Pope, but still am loyal to him
Nice profile pic.
Nationalist From Canada Thanks, your's picture is also nice
another tip, Braunschweig and Bamberg are good provinces to take for member adjacency. They give you 8 and 6 new adjacencies (1444 borders plus releaseables). Runners up are Wismar, Hessen, Hoya, and Osnabrück.
This is great
So how do I do this irl?
Reman's guides are timeless. Still watching before I play Austria in 2023 lol.
Laughs in confusianism
Why convert them when you can ignore them with syncretism-..... Muahahahaha
"Jokes on you. I am not even technically a religion"
Laughs in confusion
*confucianism.
Confucianism is a philosophy, not a religion
*raffs in confusianism
Orthodox is like a quite kid in back of the class
Coptic is the kid that lived far away so had to use Zoom but sometimes has bad internet
*Martin Luther disliked this video*
Oh, it's just in some video game? :-/
Orthodox: (intense sweating)
Thank you so much for this guide! it takes 3 tries and on 4th I can stop and stomp the protestantism and reformation, get all the reforms in HRE and conquer a half of the world till 1690`s. Great work, thanks for help (sorry for mistakes, I`m learning)(greetings from Russia)
I love how you explain everything, your voice is very relaxing xD
iam still coming back to this video every year after i took a hiatus from the game. best explanation of the whole reformation mechanic, and still not outdated.good job remax! too bad u stoped doin eu4 vids
Quality comments on this video
You're theme song makes me feel like 100s of years have passed and I've just sat and watched.
Great video on the actual 500 year anniversary of the actual Protestant Reformation! (1517)
This is incredibly helpful. Thanks. Also, you could mention the strategy of forcing a nation to move their capital to the COR and then converting them after - with full Diplo ideas, trucebreak is an option
Ben Bowles Sorry, for asking but what is COR?
COR stands for Center of Reformation
Truce breaking inside the holy roman empire? You want coalitions? Because that's how you get coalitions.
I love your videos! Keep on doing them!
Great video! Now that we're in HRE, it would be great if the next video is about how to do the HRE game and go through the reforms as fast as possible without exploits *nudgewink*. Anyway, keep up the great work!
Wuuuuuw hes still making vids :)
Thank you for beeing with us!
You are by far the best eu 4 youtuber
"The Reform Desire of 95 or higher" requirement refers to "The 95 Theses" by Martin Luther.
Dear lord, another high quality vid in one week !
Aren't you afraid they'll "protest" though ^.^ (please kill me)
I'm not entirely sure if a pun works when the part of the word you're using for the pun comes directly from the other word you're using for the pun. Protestant literally comes from the word 'protest' with a suffix on it. Maybe it does and you should just ignore me.
Seiban No, the suffix indicates a similar(-ish) thing as "-ing". It is the French equivalent of "-ing", so the denomination (not religion) is sort of called "protesting" (against the corruption of the Church).
Yeah, I was kinda hasty in writing this comment. I'll fix that comment then.
I got a problem: I jump on the first center I see but for whatever reason there is no way to enforce religion in the peace deal and if I take the province to converte it myself it still has the -100% missionary modifyer even though it's a center of reformation :/
The presentation was superb, your explanations were concise and made for an enjoyable listen. On my Brandenburg play through so the reformation is right around the corner for me. If your open for multiplayer sometime I'd like to try it out
What a time to have this in my recommendations
One of the best Eu4 channels on youtube.
Now all you have to do is investigate heresy as the Papal State with the infinite curia treasury
Guess what?! A center of Reformation in my PU junior partner Bohemia. That stability...
4:10 What do you mean by _'non-Italian parts of the HRE?'_ Places like The Netherlands and Brandenburg?
(From the beginning of the game)
Anywhere that isn't near the pope.
The Italian princes are coded to be less inclined to take a center of Reformation
I had the knights do it once
It was funny
sadasad I've seen a reformed Portugal and a protestant Spain before.
I bet they needed that 2.5% Discipline bonus from Church Power to retake Jerusalem
Did the center start converting the sunni lands in otto?
Finally the video im looking for been struggling to stay Cat for the last two campaigns all failed
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition
Yessss! The video's back :D
Hey Reman, I have a tip for you in your next iteration of a video like this. The part where you take bases around problem areas is unnecessary if you are fast! The Transfer Subject splendor reward allows claims on claims. Which means in the first 5 years of the reformation you can claim the provinces that are flipping religions! So the bases you're talking about should actually be massive amounts of claims - I'd make a spiderweb of claim paths if possible so you're always within a few provinces... but yeah, in the time it takes to make 1 claim you can claim a province around 4 provinces away if you're using 4 diplomats for this. If this fails to control religions within 5 years, you still have 25 years on your latest claims and can use that to make bases that are closer avoiding no cb wars. Claims on Claims is OP and you should make a video about exploiting it.
This is back? Yay!
my game crashes every time when the center of reformation doesnt spawn near me, does this happen to anybody else?
I knew all of this and still watched it becouse i mean, your videos are awesome
Oh my goodness ***it's back!***
Hey reman can you do a video on how you do your troop compositions. That would be great thanks
Unbelieavable that I got a Reformed Center in Paris as France, and in the same game Castille didn't take the Iberian Wedding, nor did England raped the Scotts, nor did Portugal or Castille set a foot in the New World until around 1550.
One of the weirdest games ever, and, Sweden got to put the same dinasty in my throne, but I got to P.U them.
When you are not part of the hre but the protestants converted all your land.
*cries in forced protestant*
Now I would like to see a guide on how to annex Brandenburg without fighting the entire HRE
One thing to note: if you crush a center of reformation, it'll pop right back up in the next nation that converts to that faith, so it's extremely difficult to "indefinitely" crush the reformation before the age of absolutism. When that age hits, the centers are disabled automatically.
A great video! Merci beaucoup
I've got some weird ass bug in my current Austria WC game : reformation started but didn't spawn any center of reformation.
Well I'll be damned, it's back!
"Apart from killing all A.I catholic nations..."
Ottoman Empire: Hold my beer.
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVE
Imagine if the pope had watched this video at that time, Protestantism would have been no more.
So I think it is important to mention that the Pope has a major role in effecting when the Reformation occurs. There are 3 events all needing 50% reform desire with MTTH of 200 which can occur for the Pope that are very important for an anti-reformation run. These events have to do with Indulgences, Simony, and Veneration of Relics. These events all have two choices. The second option allows the pope to either gain a bonus for the entire game in return for devotion loss. The first option causes you to lose 1 Stability but gain 10 devotion andreduce reform desire by 10. This means several years to a decade longer for the reformation on its’ own...espiecally when one considers that the associated event to go with it(the simony events, indulgence events, and the veneration of relic events) are no longer able to spawn, slowing down the reformation even more. There is also the witch trial event which has an option for another -10. These 4 events allow for a massive delaying of the reformation. Now, it doesn’t stop it either...but by delaying it, you are also able to benefit from the larger catholic presence and make use of age of discovery boni. It also means that when the reformation does spawn, the reformation is stuck in the situation where it has far less time to get going before the HRE just gets to be offically catholic automatically.
So while most nations have little ability to try and stop reform desire, the pope is much more powerful in stopping it. Makes sense after all, being THE POPE.
Hey Reman! Today I noticed that if Protestant and Reformed spawn outside of Germany, the German states are less likely to pick it unless they got converted by a center and are not a theocracy.
Basically, in my Austria campaign - Protestantism spawned in Poland (Memmingen and Ferrara converted to it but I eradicated them) and almost no German states converted to it. Same with Reformed which spawned in Portugal.
Basically, if those spawn outside the Empire - you're way safer than if it spawns inside.
Beautiful
we need that HRE guide! Exelent work'
ITS BACK HELL YEAH CRUSH THE HEATHENS AT TH-cam
Kommissar Squirrley the Catholic Church is nothing more then a cult. Long live Protestantism.
poopoohead alert
@@M1das tell that to the church fathers...
@@M1das Protestantism is the cult of heresy BIBILIOATRY
With the Diplomatic Ideas You get only minus one Stability for non Casus belly wars
No heretics in *my* empire, reeeeeeeee!
How did you get Sweden as a vassal? I knew Norway was small enough to Transfer with the Age-bonus, but for me, Sweden was always too big. Love the vid, also love the Bohemia PU strategy, I use it all the time (it's possible with France/Poland as well, as long as Austria has rivalled Bohemia; haven't tried it for other nations though) :P
Pretty nice thing for the 500 years anniversary!
The video is back I see (damn TH-cam always taking down perfectly fine videos)
ayeee the vids back,noice job youtube
Filing this away for that Austria game I'm always putting off
Yaay you got i through the algorithm!
Idk if they changed it, but the centers of reformation that are spawning in non capital provinces also have the religious zeal penalty, so conquering and converting them is impossible
In the game I'm playing the Protestant center of reformation which just popped up does have -100 missionary strength for 30 years.
In my playthrough new protestant and reformed center keep spawing after destroying the previous ones i had like 9 or 12 total during the reformation and not just 6